Question for Mr. Atkinson

[Michael McKelvy]

Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?

Here's a link you might find interesting:

http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html

[Schizoid Man]

"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message

> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>
> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>
> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html


Sorry. My eyes must be failing me. Gee, was that a Mission Accomplished
banner? Uh oh...

[Michael McKelvy]

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
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> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
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> > Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
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> > Here's a link you might find interesting:
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> > http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
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> Sorry. My eyes must be failing me. Gee, was that a Mission Accomplished
> banner? Uh oh...
>
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Nah, just another example of a weasel hypocrite and liar.

I hear the reviews on his overdue book are that it reads like fiction.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
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> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
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> > Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
> >
> > Here's a link you might find interesting:
> >
> > http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
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> Sorry. My eyes must be failing me. Gee, was that a Mission Accomplished
> banner? Uh oh...
>
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Failure to notice the hypocrisy noted.

[Arny Krueger]

Michael McKelvy wrote:

> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?

The trick is to find one of the originals after all the democratic children
scrawled their grafitti on it.

> Here's a link you might find interesting:

> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html

Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
constitutional issue if he's a Republican.

All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.

[Arny Krueger]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> Michael McKelvy wrote:
>
>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>
> The trick is to find one of the originals after all the democratic
> children scrawled their graffiti on it.
>
>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>
>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>
> Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
> constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>
> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
> essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.

Correction: John Glenn, not Armstrong was the 1984 democratic candidate for
nomination to the office of president, and Senator from Ohio 1975-1999. Of
course he was frequently pictured wearing a flight suit while in office.

[John Atkinson]

"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
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> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?

I did so at the time this subject was being discussed, Mr, McKelvy.

> Here's a link you might find interesting:
> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html

It appears to show President Clinton visiting a Navy base wearing a
windbreaker with regular brown trousers. What's your point? That if I
half-close one eye and look at the photo from across the room it might
appear as if Clinton was wearing a "uniform"?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Arny Krueger]

John Atkinson wrote:
> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
> . net>...
>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>
> I did so at the time this subject was being discussed, Mr, McKelvy.
>
>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html

> It appears to show President Clinton visiting a Navy base wearing a
> windbreaker with regular brown trousers.

On closer inspection, the "windbreaker" appears to be of the indentical cut
and fabric as the "windbreaker" worn by the uniformed officer to his left.
The brown trousers appear to be very similar cut and fabric, but a slightly
browner color. Both men appear to have some kind of insignia indicating
their rank on the left side of their "windbreaker" jackets.

>What's your point?

Looks to me to two guys wearing their respective uniforms, walking next to
each other.

> That if I half-close one eye and look at the photo from across the room
it might
> appear as if Clinton was wearing a "uniform"?

Atkinson, try looking at it with some photo editing software, if the use of
such *advanced* technology isn't beyond you.

[dave weil]

On 28 Apr 2004 04:37:08 -0700, (John
Atkinson) wrote:

>"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
. net>...
>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>
>I did so at the time this subject was being discussed, Mr, McKelvy.
>
>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>
>It appears to show President Clinton visiting a Navy base wearing a
>windbreaker with regular brown trousers. What's your point? That if I
>half-close one eye and look at the photo from across the room it might
>appear as if Clinton was wearing a "uniform"?
>
>John Atkinson
>Editor, Stereophile

It's not a "windbreaker", it's a flight or "bomber" jacket, and it's
certainly military issue - along with the requisite velcro rank badge
on the left breast. It's definitely a piece of military apparel that
most presidents wear from time to time. They wear it as their status
as Commander in Chief. However, they don't wear it as part of a
"uniform". They don't wear the rest of the uniform, but they *do* wear
it as a symbol of their status as Commander in Chief.

[S888Wheel]

>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 4/28/2004 3:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Michael McKelvy wrote:
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>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>
>The trick is to find one of the originals after all the democratic children
>scrawled their grafitti on it.
>
>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>
>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>
>Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
>constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>
>All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
>essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
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I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant John Glenn he
was an astronaut too.

[Arny Krueger]

S888Wheel wrote:
>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>> Date: 4/28/2004 3:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
>> Message-id: >
>>
>> Michael McKelvy wrote:
>>
>>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>>
>> The trick is to find one of the originals after all the democratic
>> children scrawled their grafitti on it.
>>
>>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>>
>>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>>
>> Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
>> constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>>
>> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
>> essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.

> I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant John
> Glenn he was an astronaut too.

Yup, that's what the correction I posted 11 minutes after the OP said. That
was over 4 hours ago. Where have you been?

[S888Wheel]

>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 4/28/2004 8:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>>> Date: 4/28/2004 3:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>> Message-id: >
>>>
>>> Michael McKelvy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>>>
>>> The trick is to find one of the originals after all the democratic
>>> children scrawled their grafitti on it.
>>>
>>>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>>>
>>>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>>>
>>> Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
>>> constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>>>
>>> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
>>> essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>
>> I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant John
>> Glenn he was an astronaut too.
>
>Yup, that's what the correction I posted 11 minutes after the OP said. That
>was over 4 hours ago. Where have you been?
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Yes, I see that. I read the posts in order so I posted before I saw your
correction. All apologies.

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/28/2004 8:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - mercredi 28
>Avril 2004 17:15 wrote:
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>>>From: "Arny Krueger"
>>>Date: 4/28/2004 8:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>>Message-id: >
>>>
>>>S888Wheel wrote:
>>>>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>>>>> Date: 4/28/2004 3:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>>>> Message-id: >
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael McKelvy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>>>>>
>>>>> The trick is to find one of the originals after all the democratic
>>>>> children scrawled their grafitti on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
>>>>> constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>>>>>
>>>>> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
>>>>> essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>>>
>>>> I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant John
>>>> Glenn he was an astronaut too.
>>>
>>>Yup, that's what the correction I posted 11 minutes after the OP said.
>>>That was over 4 hours ago. Where have you been?
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>> Yes, I see that. I read the posts in order so I posted before I saw your
>> correction.
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>Precocious ejaculation ? ;o)
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If you are using Usenet as a replacement for actual sex perhaps. Hmm you do
tend to be quite active on Usenet around the midnight hour. Are yo getting off
now?

[Arny Krueger]

Lionel wrote:
> S888Wheel - > - mercredi
> 28 Avril 2004 17:15 wrote:
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>>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>>> Date: 4/28/2004 8:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>> Message-id: >
>>>
>>> S888Wheel wrote:
>>>>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>>>>> Date: 4/28/2004 3:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>>>> Message-id: >
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael McKelvy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>>>>>
>>>>> The trick is to find one of the originals after all the democratic
>>>>> children scrawled their grafitti on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a link you might find interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
>>>>> constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>>>>>
>>>>> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count
>>>>> for essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>>>
>>>> I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant
>>>> John Glenn he was an astronaut too.
>>>
>>> Yup, that's what the correction I posted 11 minutes after the OP
>>> said. That was over 4 hours ago. Where have you been?

>> Yes, I see that. I read the posts in order so I posted before I saw
>> your correction.

> Precocious ejaculation ? ;o)

Be nice Lionel, he's trying....

[Arny Krueger]

George M. Middius wrote:
> S888Wheel said:
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>>> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count
>>> for essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>
>> I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant
>> John Glenn he was an astronaut too.
>
>
> I see you've caught Krooger in yet another lie. What else is new.

Jokes's on you, Middiot. I posted a correction more than 5 hours ago, and
s888wheel posted his correction over 2 hours ago. Think of this situation as
nature's way of telling you that you are out of it.

[S888Wheel]

>From: George M. Middius
>Date: 4/28/2004 10:07 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
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>S888Wheel said:
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>> >All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
>> >essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>
>> I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant John Glenn
>he
>> was an astronaut too.
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>I see you've caught Krooger in yet another lie. What else is new.
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I'd say I caught him in a mistake. A mistake that he quickly corrected. I
wasn't trying to catch him at anything though. People make mistakes.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Scott Wheeler wrote:


>>From: George M. Middius
>>Date: 4/28/2004 10:07 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>
>>
>>S888Wheel said:
>>
>>> >All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
>>> >essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>>
>>> I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant John
>Glenn
>>he
>>> was an astronaut too.
>>
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>>I see you've caught Krooger in yet another lie. What else is new.
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>I'd say I caught him in a mistake. A mistake that he quickly corrected. I
>wasn't trying to catch him at anything though. People make mistakes.
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In this particular case, I would tend to agree with you.



Bruce J. Richman

[S888Wheel]

>From: George M. Middius
>Date: 4/28/2004 10:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
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>S888Wheel said:
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>> >I see you've caught Krooger in yet another lie. What else is new.
>
>> I'd say I caught him in a mistake.
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>Bwahaha etc. After all this time, and you still don't recognize
>mock-Krooglish? For shame.
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I think I do recognize a lie for a lie and a mistake for a mistake. It looked
like a mistake to me. I don;t think Arny was trying to smear Neil Armstrong.

[Michael McKelvy]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in message
om...
> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
> . net>...
> > Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>
> I did so at the time this subject was being discussed, Mr, McKelvy.
>

Can you do it again, please.

> > Here's a link you might find interesting:
> > http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>
> It appears to show President Clinton visiting a Navy base wearing a
> windbreaker with regular brown trousers. What's your point? That if I
> half-close one eye and look at the photo from across the room it might
> appear as if Clinton was wearing a "uniform"?
>
Which is pretty much what I believe you'll find Bush wearing in the other
picture.

[Schizoid Man]

"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message

> "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message

> > Sorry. My eyes must be failing me. Gee, was that a Mission Accomplished
> > banner? Uh oh...
> >
> >
> Failure to notice the hypocrisy noted.

My failure? Yes, I do notice the hypocrisy.

Your failure? Is that an admission of imperfection? My eyes really must be
failing me.

[Schizoid Man]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message

> Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
> constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>
> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
> essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.

Ummm, that might have something to do with the fact that he wore the flight
suit BEFORE he was a senator.

[Schizoid Man]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message

> Correction: John Glenn, not Armstrong was the 1984 democratic candidate
for
> nomination to the office of president, and Senator from Ohio 1975-1999. Of
> course he was frequently pictured wearing a flight suit while in office.


Correction: It was becuase Glenn was an astronaut (hence the flight suit), a
decade before he was Senator.

No one ever criticized Bush 41 for wearing a flight suit. Obviously not,
because the chap's a war hero with an astonishing combat flight mission
record.

[Arny Krueger]

Schizoid Man wrote:
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>
>> Of course you know that a US president in a flight suit is only a
>> constitutional issue if he's a Republican.
>>
>> All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
>> essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>
> Ummm, that might have something to do with the fact that he wore the
> flight suit BEFORE he was a senator.

Are you saying that our current president never wore a filght suit before he
became president?

[Schizoid Man]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message

> Schizoid Man wrote:

> > Ummm, that might have something to do with the fact that he wore the
> > flight suit BEFORE he was a senator.
>
> Are you saying that our current president never wore a filght suit before
he
> became president?

Not at all. I'm sure he did (though not too many people can remember him in
one). :)

[Michael McKelvy]

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
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> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
>
> > "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
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> > > Sorry. My eyes must be failing me. Gee, was that a Mission
Accomplished
> > > banner? Uh oh...
> > >
> > >
> > Failure to notice the hypocrisy noted.
>
> My failure? Yes, I do notice the hypocrisy.
>
> Your failure? Is that an admission of imperfection? My eyes really must be
> failing me.
>
>
The hypocrisy is in that no one complained about Clinton wearing what he
wore in that picture. Nobody complained when he sent troops all over the
world on various failures.

[Michael McKelvy]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
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> S888Wheel said:
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> > >All those pictures of Neil Armstrong in a flight suit don't count for
> > >essentially the same reason, even though he was a senator.
>
> > I don't think Neil Armstrong was ever a senator. Maybe you meant John
Glenn he
> > was an astronaut too.
>
>
> I see you've caught Krooger in yet another lie. What else is new.
>
>
I see you are telling a lie, so nothing is new.

[Michael McKelvy]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
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> S888Wheel said:
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> > >I see you've caught Krooger in yet another lie. What else is new.
>
> > I'd say I caught him in a mistake.
>
> Bwahaha etc. After all this time, and you still don't recognize
> mock-Krooglish? For shame.
>
>
After all this time, you still think you're witty? For shame.

[S888Wheel]

>From: George M. Middius
>Date: 4/28/2004 5:44 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
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>
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>S888Wheel said:
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>> >> >I see you've caught Krooger in yet another lie. What else is new.
>> >
>> >> I'd say I caught him in a mistake.
>> >
>> >Bwahaha etc. After all this time, and you still don't recognize
>> >mock-Krooglish? For shame.
>
>> I think I do recognize a lie for a lie and a mistake for a mistake. It
>looked
>> like a mistake to me. I don;t think Arny was trying to smear Neil
>Armstrong.
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>Krooglish! Krooglish! We're talking about Krooglish!
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OK, got it. My duh.

[Michael McKelvy]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in message
om...
> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
> . net>...
> > Can you find a link to a picture of Bush wearing that flightsuit?
>
> I did so at the time this subject was being discussed, Mr, McKelvy.
>
> > Here's a link you might find interesting:
> > http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002414.html
>
> It appears to show President Clinton visiting a Navy base wearing a
> windbreaker with regular brown trousers. What's your point? That if I
> half-close one eye and look at the photo from across the room it might
> appear as if Clinton was wearing a "uniform"?
>
> John Atkinson
> Editor, Stereophile

What a shock, no link from Mr. Atkinson and no comment on the fact that the
whole thing was nothing more than another feeble attempt from the left to
make Bush look bad.