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Hi RATs!
I say if I enjoy listening, it is just nice.
I say if I enjoy testing, I am having a bad spell with my Mixed
Blessing Diseaase.
I say if we enjoy writing drivel about either, it is good to have a
hobby.
Insults and insanity aside, this is a great NG.
Well, except for all the idiots that post here ...
Happy Ears!
Al
Hi RATs!
The Sony units are not factory virgins. I strengthened the baffles with
muliple pieces of 1"x3" birch and upgraded the caps. Also, the cabs
were stuffed with wool yarn.
Otherwise normal, except for the ehorn woofer on one channel :)
I have no idea what they sounded like before I tweaked them. OK?
It may have been better ... You decide :)
Happy ears!
Al
Bob H.
August 22nd 06, 05:45 PM
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Bob H.
wrote:
> Hi RATs!
>
> The Sony units are not factory virgins. I strengthened the baffles with
> muliple pieces of 1"x3" birch and upgraded the caps. Also, the cabs
> were stuffed with wool yarn.
>
> Otherwise normal, except for the ehorn woofer on one channel :)
>
> I have no idea what they sounded like before I tweaked them. OK?
>
> It may have been better ... You decide :)
>
> Happy ears!
> Al
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> wrote:
> > Hi RATs!
> >
> > The Sony units are not factory virgins. I strengthened the baffles with
> > muliple pieces of 1"x3" birch and upgraded the caps. Also, the cabs
> > were stuffed with wool yarn.
> >
> > Otherwise normal, except for the ehorn woofer on one channel :)
> >
> > I have no idea what they sounded like before I tweaked them. OK?
> >
> > It may have been better ... You decide :)
> >
>
> Your methodology is flawless. You can have no idea if it was better or
> worse. in fact you really have no idea or care what is better and what
> is worse. But soon, you will die and it won't matter. Instead of doing
> something useful to be remembered, you choose to **** around aimlessly.
>
>
> Happy decomposing.
Hi Bart,
Thank you for another wonderful post. You are an inspiration to lesser
beings!
Happy Ears!
Al
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> Your methodology is flawless. You can have no idea if it was better or
> worse. in fact you really have no idea or care what is better and what
> is worse. But soon, you will die and it won't matter. Instead of doing
> something useful to be remembered, you choose to **** around aimlessly.
The nice thing about a hobby is that one may choose to be aimless
without consequence. Last I looked, Al has not yet reached the point
where he is stating that his is the only way, the necessary way and the
best way... just that it is his way.
You, on the other hand may wish not to 'post stupidities', but what you
do post rivals those of Mr. McCoy for their pomposity, lack of
relevance, arrogance and general dismissal of all and sundry as might
disagree. God spare us, you do not lecture beyond your strengths as is
the wont of Mr. McCoy... but you are very nearly as tiresome as you
lack its imagination and capacity for invention. McCoy is a poseur,
charlatan and liar. You are nothing at all.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Sander deWaal
August 22nd 06, 08:46 PM
"Bret Ludwig" > said:
> Your methodology is flawless. You can have no idea if it was better or
>worse. in fact you really have no idea or care what is better and what
>is worse. But soon, you will die and it won't matter. Instead of doing
>something useful to be remembered, you choose to **** around aimlessly.
> Happy decomposing.
I quoted this post in full, to show to the readers what a piece of
worthless crap you are, Bret.
Al Marcy is a sick man, who tries to still do what is within his
limitations, which is tinkering with stuff and enjoying his music.
As far as I know, he may well be on the verge of dying soon (I don't
know the progess of his illness), so comments like yours above are
*very* out of bounds, tasteless and outright sickening.
--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."
Ian Iveson
August 22nd 06, 09:11 PM
Peter wrote:
> ...its imagination and capacity for invention...
Where, exactly, have you found evidence of that? I see you fawning and have
wondered why.
cheers, Ian
Ian Iveson
August 22nd 06, 09:11 PM
Bret wrote
> ...But soon, you will die and it won't matter. Instead of doing
> something useful to be remembered, you choose to **** around aimlessly.
But Bret, Al is *really famous* for ****ing around aimlessly, and you aren't
famous for anything.
He is also famous for telling everyone he's dying for years and years without
actually showing any signs of being dead. If you fall for that story you'll feel
really daft if you die first.
cheers, Ian
Andre Jute
August 22nd 06, 10:37 PM
Sander DeWaal wrote:
> "Bret Ludwig" > said:
>
>
> > Your methodology is flawless. You can have no idea if it was better or
> >worse. in fact you really have no idea or care what is better and what
> >is worse. But soon, you will die and it won't matter. Instead of doing
> >something useful to be remembered, you choose to **** around aimlessly.
>
> > Happy decomposing.
>
>
> I quoted this post in full, to show to the readers what a piece of
> worthless crap you are, Bret.
>
> Al Marcy is a sick man, who tries to still do what is within his
> limitations, which is tinkering with stuff and enjoying his music.
> As far as I know, he may well be on the verge of dying soon (I don't
> know the progess of his illness), so comments like yours above are
> *very* out of bounds, tasteless and outright sickening.
>
Hear, hear! That really needed saying. Thank you, Sander.
Andre Jute
Eeyore
August 22nd 06, 10:53 PM
" wrote:
> Hi RATs!
>
> I say if I enjoy listening, it is just nice.
>
> I say if I enjoy testing, I am having a bad spell with my Mixed
> Blessing Diseaase.
>
> I say if we enjoy writing drivel about either, it is good to have a
> hobby.
>
> Insults and insanity aside, this is a great NG.
>
> Well, except for all the idiots that post here ...
What's wrong with testing *and* listening ?
Why do you see them as being opposite ?
Graham
Ian Iveson wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>
> > ...its imagination and capacity for invention...
>
> Where, exactly, have you found evidence of that? I see you fawning and have
> wondered why.
>
> cheers, Ian
Ian:
You are suggesting that you did NOT follow the saga of the 300B
abortion? Or its whining and subsequent backtracking on British
Buggery? Or its foray into the design of consumer-bicycles for a chain
department store? Or its claims to "special forces" status? Even its
claims of cookery?
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Ian Iveson
August 23rd 06, 01:01 AM
Peter wrote:
>> > ...its imagination and capacity for invention...
>>
>> Where, exactly, have you found evidence of that? I see you fawning and have
>> wondered why.
> You are suggesting that you did NOT follow the saga of the 300B
> abortion? Or its whining and subsequent backtracking on British
> Buggery? Or its foray into the design of consumer-bicycles for a chain
> department store? Or its claims to "special forces" status? Even its
> claims of cookery?
No. I gave up a long time ago. Not the kind of writing I read, and if it was I
would find the original author. Tedious formula, no style, no content. I
sympathise with the frustration, but don't wish to celebrate it.
Depends what you call imagination. If I read a book or watch a film and put
myself in the position of one of the characters just as portrayed, does that
require imagination? I don't think so. Does lying require imagination? Not in
itself.
cheers, Ian
Eeyore wrote:
>
> What's wrong with testing *and* listening ?
>
> Why do you see them as being opposite ?
>
> Graham
Hi Graham,
Opposite is a bit harsh. I simply see them as being different
activities.
Currently I am listening to a system which is just fun :)
Never heard anything like this thru these speakers on earlier amps.
Well, I don't remember hearing anything like this ... see, Burt, I am
human ;)
_____
I am old and sick. I am legally brain dead much of the day. Sigh. I
enjoy playing with my audio boxes. Before I got CFS, I did software.
Can't imagine software, now. Hardware is easier fun for mentally
compromised guys, like me.
Music is for everyone that can dream :)
Even if they never remember their dreams when awake ...
I have trouble remembering what happens while I am awake ...
fortunately, I am not awake for long periods, so it is easy to fudge
some stuff.
I never claimed to be dying, just not up to snuff. In a couple months
it will be a decade since I earned an honest dollar. I am living on
private insurance. I bet against myself, and won. Sigh.
_____
Before I got sick, I bought lots of techy toys, old HP distortion
analyzer, scopes, signal generators. Haven't used any of them for
years.
_____
In the army, me and many buddies were able to align receivers and
transmitters to perform two to ten times the recommended minimum
performance specification.
Home music is fun. It has little to do with retail engineering and lots
to do with fun.
_____
Audio Precision makes nice tools. They are good for evaluating circuit
performance. They are not intended to be used to attack crazy old guy's
hobbies. Sorry if I failed to make my situation clear. I love to change
bits and pieces. Sometimes it seems better, sometimes it simply doesn't
work at all.
After a decade, I have collected enough audio junk that whatever
technical sins I commit, I am fairly close to getting the system back
into play. The first few years, it was very quiet for long periods in
my Audio Dungeon while my bloodless brain tried to figure out where I
got lost ... Silence may be Golden, but, only if it background noise
silence. Listening to wind and birds and air condioning is OK for brief
periods, but is pretty dull after a few hours :)
Audio is fun. Insults are fun, if they are clever.
I fear some of our fellow posters have never had any fun. Sigh. There
truly are things much worse than poor health ...
Happy Ears!
Al
Ian Iveson wrote:
> Depends what you call imagination. If I read a book or watch a film and put
> myself in the position of one of the characters just as portrayed, does that
> require imagination? I don't think so. Does lying require imagination? Not in
> itself.
You are so right. I was stretching too hard to compare Mr. Ludwig's
wings-off-flies mean-spiritedness with Mr. McCoy's meanness of
substance. Neither of them has any damned thing to offer.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Chris Hornbeck
August 23rd 06, 06:21 AM
On 22 Aug 2006 21:59:40 -0700, "Bret Ludwig" >
wrote:
> You are a lazy malingerer is what you are. As I suspected. If you can
>compose these sentences you can write simple code.
>
> CFS is best cured by boot camp type programs. Amazingly effective.
And around here, you'd probably get yer ass kicked
pretty much as a public service. Or, this not being
your first offense, shot.
Must be a lot different wherever the hell you hail
from. Glad I'm not there, fersure.
Hope your ass rots off,
Chris Hornbeck
"History consists of truths which in the end turn into lies,
while myth consists of lies which finally turn into truths."
- Jean Cocteau
Eeyore
August 23rd 06, 10:06 AM
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> wrote:
>
> > I am old and sick. I am legally brain dead much of the day. Sigh. I
> > enjoy playing with my audio boxes. Before I got CFS, I did software.
> > Can't imagine software, now. Hardware is easier fun for mentally
> > compromised guys, like me.
>
> You are a lazy malingerer is what you are. As I suspected. If you can
> compose these sentences you can write simple code.
>
> CFS is best cured by boot camp type programs. Amazingly effective.
What's CFS ?
Graham
Eeyore wrote:
> What's CFS ?
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, AKA myalgic encephalomyelitis.
Sometimes called "Yuppie Flue".
Often a side-effect of untreated Lyme Disease, also sometimes (rarely)
the first symptom of ALS or Huntingtons.
And since there are no obvious visible manifestations, perceived as
malingering by the ignorant public.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Eeyore
August 23rd 06, 11:55 AM
" wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > What's CFS ?
>
> Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, AKA myalgic encephalomyelitis.
>
> Sometimes called "Yuppie Flue".
>
> Often a side-effect of untreated Lyme Disease, also sometimes (rarely)
> the first symptom of ALS or Huntingtons.
>
> And since there are no obvious visible manifestations, perceived as
> malingering by the ignorant public.
Ah yes, I've suffered from that sort of thing. My doctor called it post-viral
fatigue. 8 or so years of it too. Tiresome.
Graham
Eeyore wrote:
> Ah yes, I've suffered from that sort of thing. My doctor called it post-viral
> fatigue. 8 or so years of it too. Tiresome.
In my case, it was Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, a silent case (other
than fatigue) found finally by process of elimination leading to the
specific test, and once treated properly was gone in a week. No fever,
no rash... for which I was and remain profoundly grateful.
But it was sure annoying to be exhausted after even a few minutes of
activity.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>
> You are a lazy malingerer is what you are. As I suspected. If you can
> compose these sentences you can write simple code.
>
> CFS is best cured by boot camp type programs. Amazingly effective.
>
Hi Butt Twig,
Do you really think you are clever dumping garbage into the river?
Simple code? **** you, moron. Every time you use a credit card, your
money passes thru a couple of little clouds of code I wrote. Don't
thank me, I did it for the money ;)
I have actually been thru real boot camp, not the virtual hogwash your
stupid prose poses near. It was great fun :) Went to RVN and everything
;) You just type trash as if you had a clue. You don't.
Please continue to share your stupidity. It makes my disease seem less
offensive.
Happy Ears!
Al
Eeyore wrote:
> What's CFS ?
>
> Graham
Hi Graham,
CFS is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Syndrome because they have no clue
what the process is. A SPECT scan of my brain shows radically reduced
blood flow in my left frontal lobe, both temporal lobes and the visual
cortex. No apparent mechanism is detected for the malfunctions. They
give me anti-depressants, anti-anxieties, and pain killers. As the
years go by, they have added thyroid meds, anti-cholesterol, and BP
meds.
I am often quite comfortable in bed. Not bloody coherent, but, able to
enjoy Music :)
I recently took a dose of Protonix, for bleeding ulcers. Just because I
am chronically ill does not mean my body does not break down in new and
terrifying ways.
Some millions of people have this silly condition. We wait for medical
science to save us before whatever it is gets bored and gives up, or
not.
The CDC had a budget for CFS research, but, the management used it to
by copiers and stuff for more painful diseases ... sigh. Can't get no
respect.
At least I still enjoy typing insults into this NG :)
Happy Ears!
Al
Eeyore
August 23rd 06, 08:24 PM
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> wrote:
> > Eeyore wrote:
> > > What's CFS ?
> >
> > Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, AKA myalgic encephalomyelitis.
> >
> > Sometimes called "Yuppie Flue".
> >
> > Often a side-effect of untreated Lyme Disease, also sometimes (rarely)
> > the first symptom of ALS or Huntingtons.
> >
> > And since there are no obvious visible manifestations, perceived as
> > malingering by the ignorant public.
>
> Legitimate cases are perceived as malingering, but more and more
> malingering is diagnosed as CFS. It is a difficult diagnosis from a
> pure medical standpoint, but the boot camp programs separate them out
> effectively. It is admittedly a little rough on genuine cases.
I wouldn't wish it on you and boot camp won't do anything other than increase
the degree of illness in real cases.
Graham
Eeyore
August 23rd 06, 08:30 PM
" wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
>
> > Ah yes, I've suffered from that sort of thing. My doctor called it post-viral
> > fatigue. 8 or so years of it too. Tiresome.
>
> In my case, it was Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, a silent case (other
> than fatigue) found finally by process of elimination leading to the
> specific test, and once treated properly was gone in a week. No fever,
> no rash... for which I was and remain profoundly grateful.
I did actually get occasional rashes as a side effect like hives.
> But it was sure annoying to be exhausted after even a few minutes of
> activity.
It's horrible isn't it ? Knocks you right back when you thought you were feeling
well again. You have to press on though and just avoid over-exertion. It put me
back on renovating my house for example.
Graham
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The good news is Lyme is treatable, and ALS and Huntington's chorea
> are self limiting in that eventually, you die (though Hawking is taking
> his time, isn't he?).
Hi Sweety,
To reward you for your astute and helpful insights, I have decided to
let you live forevermore.
You are too swell to go to Hell and too vain for Heaven ...
Happy Ears!
Al
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