Re: Googlin'

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>
> On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a charge
of
> statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
> December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
9,
> 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
> sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.

Lionel,
You are aware of the definition of statutory rape? It means that Wheeler
and the girl could have been very enthusiastic, or even in love. But because
the girl was one year before the "age of consent", it constitutes this
particular form of rape, which is a legal definition not accompanied by the
brutal assault and mental damage of real rape.
It sounds like two young people who could not wait to live their lives.

What is the corresponding law in France?

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>
> On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a charge
of
> statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
> December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
9,
> 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
> sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.

You mother ****ing pile of **** sleaze bag.
Who the hell is Wheeler????

The adjudication mentioned in that article occurred in Massachusettes,
to my reckoning. And the dude, whoever he was, was a police officer iin
1981.

I suppose somewhere in this great wide world there was a Chapuis
who was a child molester or some other sort of pervert.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
> >
> > On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a
charge
> of
> > statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
> > December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
> 9,
> > 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
> > sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.
>
> Lionel,
> You are aware of the definition of statutory rape? It means that
Wheeler
> and the girl could have been very enthusiastic, or even in love. But
because
> the girl was one year before the "age of consent", it constitutes this
> particular form of rape, which is a legal definition not accompanied by
the
> brutal assault and mental damage of real rape.
> It sounds like two young people who could not wait to live their
lives.
>
> What is the corresponding law in France?

Bob, who the **** is this "Wheeler" ??

[Bruce J. Richman]

Art Sackman wrote:


>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>> http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>>
>> On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a charge
>of
>> statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
>> December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
>9,
>> 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
>> sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.
>
>You mother ****ing pile of **** sleaze bag.
>Who the hell is Wheeler????
>
>The adjudication mentioned in that article occurred in Massachusettes,
>to my reckoning. And the dude, whoever he was, was a police officer iin
>1981.
>
>I suppose somewhere in this great wide world there was a Chapuis
>who was a child molester or some other sort of pervert.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

The title of the thread started by Lionel really ought to be called
"Selectively Edited Googlin' - More Heavily Biased then a set of Output Tubes
:)",

It appears that Krueger may have more to worry about than he thinks:

http://www.lawyers.com/wheeler/

(this one is in California)

It seems that Lionel overlooked this. I wonder why.

But then again, he may have been too busy playing the accordian, working for an
escort service, or both (an accordian-playing escort for hire? - hmmm! - :))

http://membres.lycos.fr/coralielucia/Lionel.html

http://www.aerodrome-gruyere.ch/gvv/iace/program.htm

So, As Paul Harvey would say, now you know "the rest of the story".

:)



Bruce J. Richman

[S888Wheel]

>Subject: Googlin'
>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/8/2004 3:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>
>On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a charge of
>statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
>December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March 9,
>1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
>sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.
>

Trying to out do Arny as the resident sociopathic ****? Obviously I'm not that
Wheeler. You ought to consider gainful employment instead of wasting your time
on sociopathic edevours on Usenet.

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/8/2004 11:48 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - vendredi 9
>Avril 2004 06:59 wrote:
>
>>>Subject: Googlin'
>>>From: Lionel
>>>Date: 4/8/2004 3:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>>Message-id: >
>>>
>>>http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>>>
>>>On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a charge
>>>of statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
>>>December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
>>>9, 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year
>>>suspended sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.
>>>
>>
>> Trying to out do Arny as the resident sociopathic ****? Obviously I'm not
>> that Wheeler.
>
>Perhaps yes, perhaps no...

No perhaps ****head. That is not me.

Who knows ?

Everyone who knows anything about me.

This is the problem with the guy who
>are hiding their ugly face behind alias.


Maybe it was you then.


>Who is S888Wheel ?


Who I am is pretty well known around here.


>
>> You ought to consider gainful employment instead of wasting
>> your time on sociopathic edevours on Usenet.
>
>LOL, I haven't any lesson from a guy who spends 98% of his Usenet time to
>stalk Arnold Krueger.

You have it backwards. But then you have most things backwards.


>
>BTW I have noted several time that the more nervous and aggressive you are
>the more you have difficulties to manage your dyslexia.


Your powers of observation are as poor as your powers of reason.


>You should stop to waste your time on sociopathic endeavour on Usenet. ;o)
>
>
>
>
>
>
You certianly have been inspired by Arny's lack of originality. Do you really
want to share in his complete humiliation?

[Arny Krueger]

S888Wheel wrote:


> Trying to out do Arny as the resident sociopathic ****?

Inability to communicate in a civil manner noted. Obviously the writer is
full of self-hatred.

>Obviously I'm not that Wheeler.

There is no reliable evidence that you are any Wheeler, let alone a
particular Wheeler.

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/9/2004 1:22 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Robert Morein - > - vendredi 9 Avril
>2004 03:17 wrote:
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>>>
>>> On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a charge
>> of
>>> statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
>>> December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
>> 9,
>>> 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
>>> sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.
>>
>> Lionel,
>> You are aware of the definition of statutory rape? It means that
>> Wheeler
>> and the girl could have been very enthusiastic, or even in love. But
>> because the girl was one year before the "age of consent", it constitutes
>> this particular form of rape, which is a legal definition not accompanied
>> by the brutal assault and mental damage of real rape.
>> It sounds like two young people who could not wait to live their
>> lives.
>>
>> What is the corresponding law in France?
>
>Damned what crazy law.
>I hope in France we haven't such abomination, I never heard about that.

France clearly has one serious abomination.

>
>So in S888Wheel special case we could imagine that this evil-puritan law and
>its traumatic consequences on the pubescent S888Wheel could have caused a
>psychologic stasis in his sexual evolution. This could explains his today
>sexual attraction for adolescent girls.
>This is a question for an impartial psychologist... ;-)

This comming from the guy who wants to have sex with Builldogs. Lionel don't
project things on to me. It wasn't my fault your father did unspeakable things
to you ;-) Enjoy your sanctuary in the sewers.
>
>
>
>
>
>

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/9/2004 4:15 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - vendredi 9
>Avril 2004 09:10 wrote:
>
>> You certianly have been inspired by Arny's lack of originality. Do you
>> really want to share in his complete humiliation?
>
>Humiliation ?

Yes.

>Are you really believing that you can humiliate somebody ?

I could. But in your case it would be redundant. You manage quite well on your
own.

>"****" is nearly the last word that you can spell correctly and you are
>speaking about my lack of originality.

I suppose a sewer dwellar would confuse good spelling with original thinking.

>You are an imbecile Scott Wheeler, a paranoid one.
>


At least your spelling is OK.

[S888Wheel]

>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>
>
>> Trying to out do Arny as the resident sociopathic ****?
>
>Inability to communicate in a civil manner noted. Obviously the writer is
>full of self-hatred.

Your inability to think rationally is noted.
>
>>Obviously I'm not that Wheeler.
>
>There is no reliable evidence that you are any Wheeler, let alone a
>particular Wheeler.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks for proving you are incapable of recognizing reliable evidence. Thanks
for not getting most of the jokes. It makes them funnier.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - vendredi
>9 Avril 2004 06:27 wrote:
>
>> Art Sackman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>> http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>>>>
>>>> On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a
>>>> charge
>>>of
>>>> statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
>>>> December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
>>>9,
>>>> 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
>>>> sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.
>>>
>>>You mother ****ing pile of **** sleaze bag.
>>>Who the hell is Wheeler????
>>>
>>>The adjudication mentioned in that article occurred in Massachusettes,
>>>to my reckoning. And the dude, whoever he was, was a police officer iin
>>>1981.
>>>
>>>I suppose somewhere in this great wide world there was a Chapuis
>>>who was a child molester or some other sort of pervert.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The title of the thread started by Lionel really ought to be called
>> "Selectively Edited Googlin' - More Heavily Biased then a set of Output
>> Tubes
>> :)",
>>
>> It appears that Krueger may have more to worry about than he thinks:
>>
>> http://www.lawyers.com/wheeler/
>>
>> (this one is in California)
>>
>> It seems that Lionel overlooked this. I wonder why.
>>
>> But then again, he may have been too busy playing the accordian, working
>> for an escort service, or both (an accordian-playing escort for hire? -
>> hmmm! - :))
>>
>> http://membres.lycos.fr/coralielucia/Lionel.html
>>
>> http://www.aerodrome-gruyere.ch/gvv/iace/program.htm
>>
>> So, As Paul Harvey would say, now you know "the rest of the story".
>
>Bruce, the more I read you the more I think that you are suffering of the
>"McKelvy" syndrome.

Then you are woefully ignorant of the facts, and have decided, like McKelvy,
apparently, to attack me with personal insults. If you want to imitate him by
making stupid comments and engage in personal insults, you have my sympathy.



>In a previous discussion you was the apologist of the death penalty without
>judgment and you was claiming for an international support for it.

Like McKelvy, you have now made a false statement about my RAO posts, and have
provided no evidence to support that statement. I presume you're referring to
my approval of Yassin's targeted assassination. This assassination, was,
obviously, NOT a death sentence imposed by any court of law, but rather an act
of self-defense carried out by a country repeatedly targeted by suiicide
bombers, many of whom, got their training, encouragement, and/or direct orders,
according to most credible news reports, from Yassin.

Also, whether international support for his assassination is forthcoming ia
matter for individual countries to decide based on their internal politics.
There is no RAO evidence to indicate that I've been "claiming" (I think you
meant to say "clamoring") for international support.

Unfortunately, it appears that you seem to be suffering from the "McKelvy
syndrome" by making false, unsubstantiated statements about another RAO poster.



>Now you are supporting a guy who is elevating the delation at a normal moral
>behaviour on a Usenet NG :
>

This probable false claim requireds correction. The word "delation" refers to
either the conveyance of sounds or accusation by an informer. Neither
definition makes sense in your statement.




>"Funny that Arny begged me to send a copy to his church but refused to
>offer this address. Thanks. I will send a copy after I get the judgement.
>I figure it will make a better package that way. I will include a few
>choice excerpts from Arny's various posts as well. Hey, Arny isn't ashamed
>of his behavior and he told me to go ahead and send these things to his
>church so he has nothing to worry about."
>

If I'm supporting Mr. Wheeler, and I think he has every right to pursue a libel
suit against Krueger, and hope he is successful, since it will probably set a
precedent for many other people that Krueger and McKelvy have libeled on RAO,
then you, obviously are supporting Krueger & McKelvy's right to libel others on
RAO. I see no evidence that you have condemned or criticized the libelous
claims made by either one of these folks.



>Is it the kind of cathartic cure that you recommend to your patient ?
>

Is that the kind of inflammatory comment you make whenever you attempt to
support Krueger & McKelvy?




Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - vendredi
>9 Avril 2004 17:25 wrote:
>
>
>>>Bruce, the more I read you the more I think that you are suffering of the
>>>"McKelvy" syndrome.
>>
>> Then you are woefully ignorant of the facts, and have decided, like
>> McKelvy,
>> apparently, to attack me with personal insults. If you want to imitate
>> him by making stupid comments and engage in personal insults, you have my
>> sympathy.
>
>Don't be so megalomaniac Bruce, I don't want to attack you.
>

That's nice to hear. Not using terms like "megalomaniac" to describe somebody
would make your claim of "not wanting to attack" more credible, however.

>>>In a previous discussion you was the apologist of the death penalty
>>>without judgment and you was claiming for an international support for it.
>>
>> Like McKelvy, you have now made a false statement about my RAO posts, and
>> have
>> provided no evidence to support that statement. I presume you're
>> referring to
>> my approval of Yassin's targeted assassination. This assassination, was,
>> obviously, NOT a death sentence imposed by any court of law, but rather an
>> act of self-defense carried out by a country repeatedly targeted by
>> suiicide bombers, many of whom, got their training, encouragement, and/or
>> direct orders, according to most credible news reports, from Yassin.
>
>It depends from which side of the gun you are watching the scene.

Not really, IMHO. Unless, of course, you think that the Hamas position - the
destruction of Israel, is the correct one.



>After the WMD experience I prefer not comment on US' most credible news
>reports.

Not a creation of US news media, but rather a function of their reporting
information given to them by various government agencies and other sources.


>One pretends that israel is the 51 star on the US flag, my position
>concerning this tragic war is in the middle.
>

Your characterization of Yassin's assassination as support of a death sentence
suggests otherwise. Your characterization of Yassin as just a "politician",
rather than as the leader of a terrorist group devoted to the destruction of
another country, suggests ofherwise.



>> Also, whether international support for his assassination is forthcoming
>> ia matter for individual countries to decide based on their internal
>> politics. There is no RAO evidence to indicate that I've been "claiming"
>> (I think you meant to say "clamoring") for international support.
>
>Oh you are losing your humour here...
>

I doubt it.


>>>Now you are supporting a guy who is elevating the delation at a normal
>>>moral behaviour on a Usenet NG :
>>>
>>
>> This probable false claim requireds correction. The word "delation"
>> refers to
>> either the conveyance of sounds or accusation by an informer. Neither
>> definition makes sense in your statement.
>
>I consider that when a guy want to give to a person or a group of person an
>information that hasen't been requested it is *delation*, because the
>delator acts to cause a prejudice to his victim.
>In the following text I consider that all conditions of the delation are
>realized.
>Like for the gun I guess that this also depends on which side of the
>delation you are. :o)
>
>>>"Funny that Arny begged me to send a copy to his church but refused to
>>>offer this address. Thanks. I will send a copy after I get the judgement.
>>>I figure it will make a better package that way. I will include a few
>>>choice excerpts from Arny's various posts as well. Hey, Arny isn't ashamed
>>>of his behavior and he told me to go ahead and send these things to his
>>>church so he has nothing to worry about."
>>>
>>
>> If I'm supporting Mr. Wheeler, and I think he has every right to pursue a
>> libel suit against Krueger, and hope he is successful, since it will
>> probably set a precedent for many other people that Krueger and McKelvy
>> have libeled on RAO, then you, obviously are supporting Krueger &
>> McKelvy's right to libel others on RAO. I see no evidence that you have
>> condemned or criticized the libelous claims made by either one of these
>> folks.
>
>False I have already *clearly* condmned Krueger's libelous writings and I'm
>sincerely surprised and desappointed that this has escaped from your
>scrupulous and objective readings.
>If you're really interested, Google is your friend.

If you've publicly condemned Krueger's documented libelous writings, then I
apologize. I make no claim to have read every word posted by various posters
on RAO.



>Sorry but I must confess that I don't think that you are interested in
>*this* verity.
>

Then you are wrong, and jumping to conclusions.



>Concerning our today violent exchanges with Scott Wheeler let me tell you
>the story from my side of the gun.
>I have been one of the RAO contributor to be critical concerning the Scott
>Wheeler's lawsuit. Like the others I have been insulted : idiot, stupid,
>ridiculous, bull****... I was just telling him that IMO he was wrong but...
>No problem.
>One day he thought interesting to pushed the game more far and insidiously
>and implicitly insulted my father (a "yo mama joke" he said...). He was
>very happy with what he described as a victory saying that he had played
>with me like a piano...
>If you are also dubitative Google is still your...
>
>Scott Wheeler is a coward and like all the cowards when he find some support
>he hasn't anymore limits.
>RAO is the perfect decor for such frustrated coward :
>- universally hated victim : Arnold Krueger
>- strong and conviced supporters : Middius, Sockpuppet MachinCHose, you...
>- spectators : millions of Usenet mute readers.
>
>But I don't need to explain all that to you I'm sure that you have already
>understood.


But as your resentment for Krueger is stronger than your
>honesty on *this forum* I am not waiting any confidence from you. :-)

Once again, you have made a false statement and engaged in personal attacks
based on a ridiculous assumption. There is no evidence to support your
ridiculous false claim.



>And you are right, RAO is a kind of sewage pipe...
>
>
>

I didn't say that, AFAIK. If you claim that I did, you will, of course,
demonstrate your "honesty" by providing the appropriate quotation from Google.




Bruce J. Richman

[S888Wheel]

>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - vendredi 9
>Avril 2004 16:57 wrote:
>
>> This comming from the guy who wants to have sex with Builldogs. Lionel
>> don't project things on to me. It wasn't my fault your father did
>> unspeakable things to you ;-) Enjoy your sanctuary in the sewers.
>
>I like your "yo mama" jokes Scott Wheeler.
>
>But I don't know how to have sex with Builldogs. :o)

Thank goodness for the sake of Bulldogs around the world that you are as stupid
as you are perverted.


>
>Do you also use to joke with your daughters while you're gently caressing
>their young vaginas ?

Did your father carress you in a sexual sort of way? Is this why you project
such perversions on me? Would your wife be proud of you posting such garbage on
the internet with your name on it?


>And what about Mrs Wheeler during this time. Is she giving Porky George's
>daily blow job ?

No she is hiding him from you. Sick ****s like you and Arny give her the
creeps. Does your wife know how sick you are? What did your father do to you to
make you this messed up?


>
>The sewers are full of people's dejections Scotty.


You need to stop soaking them up and spewing them out on RAO.

In fact all these stinky
>matters are pouring out of your dirty body, out of your dirty mind.

Ah, the hypocrite rears his ugly head again. You are the one talking about
stroking a daughters vagina. You are the one with a dirty mind. You indeed live
in a sewer.

My
>little Scott "Redeemer" Wheeler, you are such a coward and an hypocrite


Brave words spoken from a safe haven. A French sewer.


>that you are working all your life long to forget this simple fact instead
>to learn how to live with it...
>"Chasser le naturel il revient au galop."

Nah, loosers like you dream of lives like mine. Back to the sewer with you. Oh,
wait, you never left it.
>
>
>
>
>
>

[S888Wheel]

>Message-id: >
>
>Bruce J. Richman - > - vendredi
>9 Avril 2004 17:25 wrote:
>
>
>>>Bruce, the more I read you the more I think that you are suffering of the
>>>"McKelvy" syndrome.
>>
>> Then you are woefully ignorant of the facts, and have decided, like
>> McKelvy,
>> apparently, to attack me with personal insults. If you want to imitate
>> him by making stupid comments and engage in personal insults, you have my
>> sympathy.
>
>Don't be so megalomaniac Bruce, I don't want to attack you.
>
>>>In a previous discussion you was the apologist of the death penalty
>>>without judgment and you was claiming for an international support for it.
>>
>> Like McKelvy, you have now made a false statement about my RAO posts, and
>> have
>> provided no evidence to support that statement. I presume you're
>> referring to
>> my approval of Yassin's targeted assassination. This assassination, was,
>> obviously, NOT a death sentence imposed by any court of law, but rather an
>> act of self-defense carried out by a country repeatedly targeted by
>> suiicide bombers, many of whom, got their training, encouragement, and/or
>> direct orders, according to most credible news reports, from Yassin.
>
>It depends from which side of the gun you are watching the scene.
>After the WMD experience I prefer not comment on US' most credible news
>reports.
>One pretends that israel is the 51 star on the US flag, my position
>concerning this tragic war is in the middle.
>
>> Also, whether international support for his assassination is forthcoming
>> ia matter for individual countries to decide based on their internal
>> politics. There is no RAO evidence to indicate that I've been "claiming"
>> (I think you meant to say "clamoring") for international support.
>
>Oh you are losing your humour here...
>
>>>Now you are supporting a guy who is elevating the delation at a normal
>>>moral behaviour on a Usenet NG :
>>>
>>
>> This probable false claim requireds correction. The word "delation"
>> refers to
>> either the conveyance of sounds or accusation by an informer. Neither
>> definition makes sense in your statement.
>
>I consider that when a guy want to give to a person or a group of person an
>information that hasen't been requested it is *delation*, because the
>delator acts to cause a prejudice to his victim.
>In the following text I consider that all conditions of the delation are
>realized.
>Like for the gun I guess that this also depends on which side of the
>delation you are. :o)
>
>>>"Funny that Arny begged me to send a copy to his church but refused to
>>>offer this address. Thanks. I will send a copy after I get the judgement.
>>>I figure it will make a better package that way. I will include a few
>>>choice excerpts from Arny's various posts as well. Hey, Arny isn't ashamed
>>>of his behavior and he told me to go ahead and send these things to his
>>>church so he has nothing to worry about."
>>>
>>
>> If I'm supporting Mr. Wheeler, and I think he has every right to pursue a
>> libel suit against Krueger, and hope he is successful, since it will
>> probably set a precedent for many other people that Krueger and McKelvy
>> have libeled on RAO, then you, obviously are supporting Krueger &
>> McKelvy's right to libel others on RAO. I see no evidence that you have
>> condemned or criticized the libelous claims made by either one of these
>> folks.
>
>False I have already *clearly* condmned Krueger's libelous writings and I'm
>sincerely surprised and desappointed that this has escaped from your
>scrupulous and objective readings.

Bull****. You did no such thing.


>If you're really interested, Google is your friend.

Post a link.


>Sorry but I must confess that I don't think that you are interested in
>*this* verity.

No one is interested in going on Easter egg hunts for something that does not
exist


>
>Concerning our today violent exchanges with Scott Wheeler let me tell you
>the story from my side of the gun.
>I have been one of the RAO contributor to be critical concerning the Scott
>Wheeler's lawsuit. Like the others I have been insulted : idiot, stupid,
>ridiculous, bull****... I was just telling him that IMO he was wrong but...

No you were insulting me with every post. If you don't like to be insulted then
don't insult others.


>No problem.
>One day he thought interesting to pushed the game more far and insidiously
>and implicitly insulted my father (a "yo mama joke" he said...).


No you brought up something your father used to say and I said I wasn't
interested in what he had to say since the only thing I knew about him was that
he raised one looser. It was an insult to you. You just lost your head over the
whole thing. There was no master plan to insult your family it was just a
roundabout way of taking a well deserved shot at you. You lost your cool and
accused me of being a pedophile and raping my own children. Your attacks were
on an order of several magnitudes worse than any comment I had ever made about
you. At that point I saw no point in fighting fair. You croosed the line so I
fought on the other side of the line. The irony is that you were the one
whining about me not being able to take it. Turns out you were the one
suffering from hypersensitivity. Of course when you thought you were insulted
you should your true colors ar=nd your true lack of moral character.

He was
>very happy with what he described as a victory saying that he had played
>with me like a piano...

Only after you crossed the line and accused me of raping my own children. After
that you deserved everything you got.


>If you are also dubitative Google is still your...

Yes do a search. You will see everything I have said is the absolute truth.


>
>Scott Wheeler is a coward and like all the cowards when he find some support
>he hasn't anymore limits.

Lionel is so brave from his safe haven in the sewers of France. You showed your
true colors Lionel. No one is buying your bull****.


>RAO is the perfect decor for such frustrated coward :
>- universally hated victim : Arnold Krueger
>- strong and conviced supporters : Middius, Sockpuppet MachinCHose, you...
>- spectators : millions of Usenet mute readers.

Funny you relate so well to Arny. You two are the ones calling others
pedophiles because you loose your collective cools.


>
>But I don't need to explain all that to you I'm sure that you have already
>understood.


I'm sure he does understand. That is why he sees through your bull****.


But as your resentment for Krueger is stronger than your
>honesty on *this forum* I am not waiting any confidence from you. :-)
>And you are right, RAO is a kind of sewage pipe...

So you feel at home?
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Arny Krueger]

S888Wheel wrote:

> It was an insult to you. You
> just lost your head over the whole thing. There was no master plan to
> insult your family it was just a roundabout way of taking a well
> deserved shot at you. You lost your cool . Your attacks were on an order
> of several magnitudes worse than any comment I had ever made about
> you. At that point I saw no point in fighting fair. You croosed the
> line so I fought on the other side of the line. The irony is that you
> were the one whining about me not being able to take it. Turns out
> you were the one suffering from hypersensitivity.

Nice description of yourself, sockpuppet.

BTW, what is your occupation?

LOL!

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
>
> On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a charge
of
> statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
> December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on March
9,
> 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year suspended
> sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.

It just occurred to me, Lionel, that you are picking up the worst of our
habits.

You should now be eligible for a Green Card :).

[S888Wheel]

>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 4/9/2004 11:51 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>
>> It was an insult to you. You
>> just lost your head over the whole thing. There was no master plan to
>> insult your family it was just a roundabout way of taking a well
>> deserved shot at you. You lost your cool . Your attacks were on an order
>> of several magnitudes worse than any comment I had ever made about
>> you. At that point I saw no point in fighting fair. You croosed the
>> line so I fought on the other side of the line. The irony is that you
>> were the one whining about me not being able to take it. Turns out
>> you were the one suffering from hypersensitivity.
>
>Nice description of yourself, sockpuppet.

Thanks for admitting you have poor reading comprehension. LOts.


>
>BTW, what is your occupation?

Thanks for admitting you have poor powers of deduction and are incapable of a
simple google search. LOts.

Why are you obsessing over me? Isn't there more to your life on Usenet than
making an ass of yourself over the issue of my occupation and your inability to
figure out what it is?

>
>LOL!

[Marc Phillips]

S888Wheel said:

>>From: Lionel
>>Date: 4/9/2004 4:15 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>S888Wheel - > - vendredi 9
>>Avril 2004 09:10 wrote:
>>
>>> You certianly have been inspired by Arny's lack of originality. Do you
>>> really want to share in his complete humiliation?
>>
>>Humiliation ?
>
>Yes.
>
>>Are you really believing that you can humiliate somebody ?
>
>I could. But in your case it would be redundant. You manage quite well on
>your
>own.
>
>>"****" is nearly the last word that you can spell correctly and you are
>>speaking about my lack of originality.
>
>I suppose a sewer dwellar would confuse good spelling with original
>thinking.
>
>>You are an imbecile Scott Wheeler, a paranoid one.
>>
>
>
>At least your spelling is OK.

And his English has gotten much better, too.

Actually, it varies from day to day. In other words, I think one of RAO's
finest got stationed in Europe.

Boon

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/9/2004 2:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - vendredi 9
>Avril 2004 20:09 wrote:
>
>> Nah, loosers like you dream of lives like mine.
>
>I will just quote this one to show the RAO world what an idiot you are...
>

Funny thing is you just end up showing what an idiot you are.

>
>Scott Wheeler is the innocent incarnation of the "American Dream".

Xenophobia is a sad state for anyone. Maybe you should travel more. Get out of
the sewers some time.

>This guy is 10,000 times more dangerous than any George W. Bush or any
>Pyjamarama (AKA Pajama-Boy) or any extrem-right-catholic-integrist !

I guess you hadn't humiliated yourself quite enough. You must think I am quite
a powerful person if you think I am 10,000 times more dangerous arguably the
most powerful person on earth. If you weren't so stupid I might be flattered by
your awe. Of course you go all the way with your stupidity and put Pj on equal
ground with Bush in terms of power. You are such an embarrassment to
liberalism.

>Don't you know why ?
>Because he is *sure* to be a liberal democrat.
>

And once again you are wrong.

>
>Scott Wheeler (AKA S888wheel LOL !) is a democrat liberal INTEGRIST,

WTF? I am not familiar with the word INTEGRIST.

> the Bin
>Laden of the American success...

What are you trying to say? You are throwing out a lot of emotionally evocative
terms but you are babbling? A meltdown again?

>And a well-known pedophile !

Yep. You have once again been reduced to the French version of Arny Krueger. I
guess you are attracted to life in a sewer like any common house fly. Why don't
you just act like any decent French fool and wave the white flag, have a
pastery and crawl under a rock. You will soon be forgotten and you can go on
with your life without your friends and family knowing what a sick looser you
really are deep down inside.

>
>Marvellous beginnings for a skiing week-end... It's snowing for 3 hours
>now. :-)
>

Hows the skiing in the sewers of France. I would suspect it stinks.

[S888Wheel]

>Date: 4/9/2004 4:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - samedi 10 Avril
>2004 00:00 wrote:
>
>> Hows the skiing in the sewers of France. I would suspect it stinks.
>
>I think it could be funny to make rollers, skate or bike in large sewage
>pipes.
>BTW in here the snow is white with an indefinable fine odor. When like me
>you have the chance to live at the mountain foot it brings the *silence* :
>less cars, less movement, less hurry, less stress in the end.
>I think that skiing is a fantastic pastime and I don't understand why you
>have written : "loosers like you dream of lives like mine."
>Because I'm sure that this week-end at least this will not be true.
>
>

Of course you don't understand. You manage to forget the 363 days that follow
this weekend. Enjoy your skiing. Sorry about the rest.

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/9/2004 5:47 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - samedi 10 Avril
>2004 00:00 wrote:
>
>>>Scott Wheeler is the innocent incarnation of the "American Dream".
>>
>> Xenophobia is a sad state for anyone. Maybe you should travel more. Get
>> out of the sewers some time.
>
>Ooops too much, I missed this one...
>Before travelling you shoud get out of your mobile home sometime :
>http://800-buy-movies.com/GeneralDVD/gr206305D1.htm
>Purchase it and watch it on *your* TV ! LOL !
>

Yawn. I own a half million dollar house. My wife is in Florida looking to buy
our second house. Keep up the good spelling. Maybe an original thought will
creep in eventually.

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/9/2004 3:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - vendredi 9
>Avril 2004 20:46 wrote:
>
>> No you brought up something your father used to say and I said I wasn't
>> interested in what he had to say since the only thing I knew about him was
>> that he raised one looser.
>
>This is *the* worst insult to my father that I've never read or
>heard...

Is this a cultural thing or are you just that messed up? I wouldn't think twice
about it if someone said that to me. I doubt anyone else here would either.
Rest assured it wasn't the worst insult you heard though. I did hit below the
belt after you accused me of raping my own children. Is that an exceptable
thing to say in France? Is it OK to say someone raped their own children
because they said they were not interested in your father's words? I kind of
doubt it. I suspect it is your selfrighteous arogant skewed sense of
superiority. You don't think we all smell it on you? Your arogance? It stinks
worse than the sewege. You come in here trolling everyone thinking you are just
a bit more clever than everyone else and then by chance one of your buttons get
pushed and you show the true nature of your moral character. You are so ****ing
selfrighteous that you think a minor jab at you via your comment on your
fathers words is far more vile than your claims that I raped my children. You
are truly ****ed up.

>All the suit is the grotesque exaggeration of the above insult...
>...In the same way your lawsuit is just the grotesque exaggeration of a "yo
>mama joke" about your sexual mores.
>

Yep. You are truly ****ed up.

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/9/2004 6:39 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - samedi 10 Avril
>2004 03:24 wrote:
>
>> Yawn. I own a half million dollar house. My wife is in Florida looking to
>> buy our second house. Keep up the good spelling. Maybe an original thought
>> will creep in eventually.
>
>Gooooooooood, very interesting. My house has cost me $20,000...
>Sincerely I hope for you that your wife will not prefer an alligator to
>Porky-George.
>

The renters will have to cope with the alligators. We are just investing and
letting renters foot the bill. When you live in a capitalist country you either
use it or get run over by it. Lakeside property has it's down sides.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"S888Wheel" > wrote in message
...

> You certianly have been inspired by Arny's lack of originality. Do you
really
> want to share in his complete humiliation?
>

Maybe he wants to share in forking over a legal judgement to you.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> S888Wheel wrote:
>
>
> > Trying to out do Arny as the resident sociopathic ****?
>
> Inability to communicate in a civil manner noted. Obviously the writer is
> full of self-hatred.
>
> >Obviously I'm not that Wheeler.
>
> There is no reliable evidence that you are any Wheeler, let alone a
> particular Wheeler.
>

Quite a dilemma; you'll need the correct name on the check to pay the
judgment.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>
> BTW, what is your occupation?
>

Rearranging your face.
Waddyagonnadoaboudit, numnuts??

[S888Wheel]

>From: Lionel
>Date: 4/9/2004 7:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - samedi 10 Avril
>2004 03:35 wrote:
>
>> Is this a cultural thing or are you just that messed up? I wouldn't think
>> twice about it if someone said that to me.
>
>I have already explained that to you, Scott "coward" Wheeler.

More brave words from your safe haven. Tough talk is pretty pathetic. I would
think even a psuedosophiticated guy like you would know that.


>You should try to reproduce this scenario in 3D,

So your math is a mess along with everything else. Our exchanges on RAO are
pretty linear.


I know a lot of places
>where you wouldn't be able to engage a lawsuit after that.

Sounds like a veiled threat. I might take it seriously if you were not saying
from the safe haven of a land of quick surrender.


>But you are living in an half-million dollars mobile home,


Nope. It is actually quite nice and has no trailor hitch. Nice try though. I
guess you are becoming Arny's twin more and more with each step of your
meltdown. Scum is fundimentally the same all over the world when it is reduced
to it's basic elements.

protected by some
>of the best policemen of the county.

Ooh this does sound like a veiled threat now. Do you have your white flag ready
should things ever go beyond RAO?

Your wife is looking to add an other
>half-million dollars mobile home to your familial patrimony while you are
>trolling on RAO with a poor, mentally retarded, and arrogant french guy...

No we are looking at properly built fixed structures at around half that price.
Is your home for sale? We could use the leftover pocket change to buy it
afterwards and you could rent from us. Or do the French forbid foreign
ownership of French land? Are arrogant French retards relaible renters?
Wouldn't want to have to evict you.


>Arrogant ? Who have said arrogant ? ;-)
>Usually there's a moral at the end of the American stories


You have been posting around the clock. You must be exhausted. Wouldn't want
you to have an accident while skiing this weekend. Better get some sleep before
you hit the slopes.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - vendredi
>9 Avril 2004 19:18 wrote:
>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bruce J. Richman - > -
>>>vendredi 9 Avril 2004 17:25 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Bruce, the more I read you the more I think that you are suffering of
>>>>>the "McKelvy" syndrome.
>>>>
>>>> Then you are woefully ignorant of the facts, and have decided, like
>>>> McKelvy,
>>>> apparently, to attack me with personal insults. If you want to imitate
>>>> him by making stupid comments and engage in personal insults, you have
>>>> my sympathy.
>>>
>>>Don't be so megalomaniac Bruce, I don't want to attack you.
>>>
>>
>> That's nice to hear. Not using terms like "megalomaniac" to describe
>> somebody would make your claim of "not wanting to attack" more credible,
>> however.
>
>Good I like your humour Bruce, yes sincerely.
>
>>>>>In a previous discussion you was the apologist of the death penalty
>>>>>without judgment and you was claiming for an international support for
>>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>> Like McKelvy, you have now made a false statement about my RAO posts,
>>>> and have
>>>> provided no evidence to support that statement. I presume you're
>>>> referring to
>>>> my approval of Yassin's targeted assassination. This assassination,
>>>> was, obviously, NOT a death sentence imposed by any court of law, but
>>>> rather an act of self-defense carried out by a country repeatedly
>>>> targeted by suiicide bombers, many of whom, got their training,
>>>> encouragement, and/or direct orders, according to most credible news
>>>> reports, from Yassin.
>>>
>>>It depends from which side of the gun you are watching the scene.
>>
>> Not really, IMHO. Unless, of course, you think that the Hamas position -
>> the destruction of Israel, is the correct one.
>
>This is your opinion of the conflict it looks like than more of 4/5 of the
>world have had a different opinion.
>

Prove it. Cite evidence indicating that 4/5 of the world approve of the goal
of the destruction of Israel. Of course, with France's high Moslem population
(for a European country), repetition of Moslem propaganda and increasing French
anti-Semitism are a way of life, I suppose.



>>>After the WMD experience I prefer not comment on US' most credible news
>>>reports.
>>
>> Not a creation of US news media, but rather a function of their reporting
>> information given to them by various government agencies and other
>> sources.
>
>Jewish propaganda, American blah, blah blah.... Sorry but in France and more
>generally in Europe most of media discribe a different situation.
>

Typical French/Moslem antiSemitism and bull****. American media are certainly
not controlled or influenced very much by Jewish views, and the Jewish
population in the US is extremely small, percentage wise - certainly not
comparable to the approx. 20-30% Moslem population in France.


>>>One pretends that israel is the 51 star on the US flag, my position
>>>concerning this tragic war is in the middle.
>>>
>>
>> Your characterization of Yassin's assassination as support of a death
>> sentence
>> suggests otherwise. Your characterization of Yassin as just a
>> "politician", rather than as the leader of a terrorist group devoted to
>> the destruction of another country, suggests ofherwise.
>
>Sorry to remember you that 4/5 of the UN security council have a different
>opinion than you. Cf security council condemnation.
>I have already hear about the "French Exception" but I don't remember that
>it has already rallied so much favorable opinion all around the world.
>LOL ! Wake up Bruce ! You are more and more looking like the Arnold Krueger
>of the international policy... :o)
>

It's time for you to admit your not so subtle antiSemitism, favoritism of Arab
extremism and endorsement of Moslem propaganda. The UN Security Council, and
the UN in general, has long been known as little more than a 3rd world haven
for Arab extremism, anti Semitism and anti-American opinions. And re. the
Security Council, in addition to the American veto of an obviously prejudiced
UN resolution condemning Israel but not suicide bombers (a group you support,
apparently), there were several abstentions in addition to the United Nations
veto.

Since you condone suicide bombings of civilians and the countries that endorse
them such as France, Algeria and your Arab friends in the UN, there is little
point in discussing this with an apparent antiSemite supporter of Hamas.
Arafat will no doubt be happy to send you an autographed picture, saying
"Thanks for your support".






>>>> Also, whether international support for his assassination is forthcoming
>>>> ia matter for individual countries to decide based on their internal
>>>> politics. There is no RAO evidence to indicate that I've been "claiming"
>>>> (I think you meant to say "clamoring") for international support.
>>>
>>>Oh you are losing your humour here...
>>>
>>
>> I doubt it.
>>
>>
>>>>>Now you are supporting a guy who is elevating the delation at a normal
>>>>>moral behaviour on a Usenet NG :
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This probable false claim requireds correction. The word "delation"
>>>> refers to
>>>> either the conveyance of sounds or accusation by an informer. Neither
>>>> definition makes sense in your statement.
>>>
>>>I consider that when a guy want to give to a person or a group of person
>>>an information that hasen't been requested it is *delation*, because the
>>>delator acts to cause a prejudice to his victim.
>>>In the following text I consider that all conditions of the delation are
>>>realized.
>>>Like for the gun I guess that this also depends on which side of the
>>>delation you are. :o)
>>>
>>>>>"Funny that Arny begged me to send a copy to his church but refused to
>>>>>offer this address. Thanks. I will send a copy after I get the
>>>>>judgement. I figure it will make a better package that way. I will
>>>>>include a few choice excerpts from Arny's various posts as well. Hey,
>>>>>Arny isn't ashamed of his behavior and he told me to go ahead and send
>>>>>these things to his church so he has nothing to worry about."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I'm supporting Mr. Wheeler, and I think he has every right to pursue
>>>> a libel suit against Krueger, and hope he is successful, since it will
>>>> probably set a precedent for many other people that Krueger and McKelvy
>>>> have libeled on RAO, then you, obviously are supporting Krueger &
>>>> McKelvy's right to libel others on RAO. I see no evidence that you have
>>>> condemned or criticized the libelous claims made by either one of these
>>>> folks.
>>>
>>>False I have already *clearly* condmned Krueger's libelous writings and
>>>I'm sincerely surprised and desappointed that this has escaped from your
>>>scrupulous and objective readings.
>>>If you're really interested, Google is your friend.
>>
>> If you've publicly condemned Krueger's documented libelous writings, then
>> I
>> apologize. I make no claim to have read every word posted by various
>> posters on RAO.
>
>I accept your excuses.
>

I've made no excuses. It appears that in addition to my failure to ever see a
post from you condemning Krueger's use of libel against me and numerous others
on RAO, Scott Wheeler has never seen a post from you condemning use of libel
either. How is it, Lionel, that so many people (I could obviously name many
others) have condemned Krueger for libel but you apparently have not? Of
course, if you have done so, as you say, you can no doubt produce some
quotations and Google references? I'll withold judgment pending your
production of this evidence.


>>>Sorry but I must confess that I don't think that you are interested in
>>>*this* verity.
>>>
>>
>> Then you are wrong, and jumping to conclusions.
>
>I accept that.
>
>>>Concerning our today violent exchanges with Scott Wheeler let me tell you
>>>the story from my side of the gun.
>>>I have been one of the RAO contributor to be critical concerning the Scott
>>>Wheeler's lawsuit. Like the others I have been insulted : idiot, stupid,
>>>ridiculous, bull****... I was just telling him that IMO he was wrong
>>>but... No problem.
>>>One day he thought interesting to pushed the game more far and insidiously
>>>and implicitly insulted my father (a "yo mama joke" he said...). He was
>>>very happy with what he described as a victory saying that he had played
>>>with me like a piano...
>>>If you are also dubitative Google is still your...
>>>
>>>Scott Wheeler is a coward and like all the cowards when he find some
>>>support he hasn't anymore limits.
>>>RAO is the perfect decor for such frustrated coward :
>>>- universally hated victim : Arnold Krueger

Well, *not* universally. He's always got you and duh-Mikey. :) And I'd
hardly call him a "victim". :)


>>>- strong and conviced supporters : Middius, Sockpuppet MachinCHose, you...
>>>- spectators : millions of Usenet mute readers.

Really? :) I serously doubt that there are millions of Usenet readers lurking
on RAO. We don't have that kind of sex appeal. :)


>>>But I don't need to explain all that to you I'm sure that you have already
>>>understood.
>>
>>
>> But as your resentment for Krueger is stronger than your
>>>honesty on *this forum* I am not waiting any confidence from you. :-)
>>
>> Once again, you have made a false statement and engaged in personal
>> attacks based on a ridiculous assumption. There is no evidence to support
>> your ridiculous false claim.
>
>Ok you are right there's no evidence so it's not anymore a claim but just my
>own strong presumption. ;-)
>

An unwarranted and unfair presumption you get to have :).


>
>>>And you are right, RAO is a kind of sewage pipe...
>
>> I didn't say that, AFAIK. If you claim that I did, you will, of course,
>> demonstrate your "honesty" by providing the appropriate quotation from
>> Google.
>
>Ooops this one come from my poor use of the ponctuation. I explain it
>again :
>*I* think that you are right to not make any confidence to me...
>BECAUSE
>*I* think that RAO is a kind of sewage pipe...
>

Okay. I can "buy off on that". LOT's!!!




>...And Scott Wheeler one of the most stinky turd.
>
>
>



Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - samedi
>10 Avril 2004 04:26 wrote:
>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bruce J. Richman - > -
>>>vendredi 9 Avril 2004 19:18 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lionel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bruce J. Richman - > -
>>>>>vendredi 9 Avril 2004 17:25 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bruce, the more I read you the more I think that you are suffering of
>>>>>>>the "McKelvy" syndrome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you are woefully ignorant of the facts, and have decided, like
>>>>>> McKelvy,
>>>>>> apparently, to attack me with personal insults. If you want to
>>>>>> imitate him by making stupid comments and engage in personal insults,
>>>>>> you have my sympathy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't be so megalomaniac Bruce, I don't want to attack you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's nice to hear. Not using terms like "megalomaniac" to describe
>>>> somebody would make your claim of "not wanting to attack" more credible,
>>>> however.
>>>
>>>Good I like your humour Bruce, yes sincerely.
>>>
>>>>>>>In a previous discussion you was the apologist of the death penalty
>>>>>>>without judgment and you was claiming for an international support for
>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like McKelvy, you have now made a false statement about my RAO posts,
>>>>>> and have
>>>>>> provided no evidence to support that statement. I presume you're
>>>>>> referring to
>>>>>> my approval of Yassin's targeted assassination. This assassination,
>>>>>> was, obviously, NOT a death sentence imposed by any court of law, but
>>>>>> rather an act of self-defense carried out by a country repeatedly
>>>>>> targeted by suiicide bombers, many of whom, got their training,
>>>>>> encouragement, and/or direct orders, according to most credible news
>>>>>> reports, from Yassin.
>>>>>
>>>>>It depends from which side of the gun you are watching the scene.
>>>>
>>>> Not really, IMHO. Unless, of course, you think that the Hamas position
>>>> - the destruction of Israel, is the correct one.
>>>
>>>This is your opinion of the conflict it looks like than more of 4/5 of the
>>>world have had a different opinion.
>>>
>>
>> Prove it. Cite evidence indicating that 4/5 of the world approve of the
>> goal
>> of the destruction of Israel. Of course, with France's high Moslem
>> population (for a European country), repetition of Moslem propaganda and
>> increasing French anti-Semitism are a way of life, I suppose.
>
>Your supposition is dangerous
>
>>

Not really. However, your ridiculous pro-Palestinian propaganda coupled with
tired old antisemitic stereotypes about "control of the US media" might be
dangerous.



>>
>>
>>>>>After the WMD experience I prefer not comment on US' most credible news
>>>>>reports.
>>>>
>>>> Not a creation of US news media, but rather a function of their
>>>> reporting information given to them by various government agencies and
>>>> other sources.
>>>
>>>Jewish propaganda, American blah, blah blah.... Sorry but in France and
>>>more generally in Europe most of media discribe a different situation.
>>>
>>
>> Typical French/Moslem antiSemitism and bull****. American media are
>> certainly not controlled or influenced very much by Jewish views, and the
>> Jewish population in the US is extremely small, percentage wise -
>> certainly not comparable to the approx. 20-30% Moslem population in
>> France.
>
>6 millions on 62 millions give less than 10 %.
>Where have you studied Stalinian statistics, Bruce ?
>
>

I don't know what you're talking about. Do you?

Try reading this little article:


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11445


>
>>>>>One pretends that israel is the 51 star on the US flag, my position
>>>>>concerning this tragic war is in the middle.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your characterization of Yassin's assassination as support of a death
>>>> sentence
>>>> suggests otherwise. Your characterization of Yassin as just a
>>>> "politician", rather than as the leader of a terrorist group devoted to
>>>> the destruction of another country, suggests ofherwise.
>>>
>>>Sorry to remember you that 4/5 of the UN security council have a different
>>>opinion than you. Cf security council condemnation.
>>>I have already hear about the "French Exception" but I don't remember that
>>>it has already rallied so much favorable opinion all around the world.
>>>LOL ! Wake up Bruce ! You are more and more looking like the Arnold
>>>Krueger of the international policy... :o)
>>>
>>
>> It's time for you to admit your not so subtle antiSemitism, favoritism of
>> Arab
>> extremism and endorsement of Moslem propaganda. The UN Security Council,
>> and the UN in general, has long been known as little more than a 3rd world
>> haven
>> for Arab extremism, anti Semitism and anti-American opinions. And re. the
>> Security Council, in addition to the American veto of an obviously
>> prejudiced UN resolution condemning Israel but not suicide bombers (a
>> group you support, apparently), there were several abstentions in addition
>> to the United Nations veto.
>>
>> Since you condone suicide bombings of civilians and the countries that
>> endorse them such as France, Algeria and your Arab friends in the UN,
>> there is little point in discussing this with an apparent antiSemite
>> supporter of Hamas. Arafat will no doubt be happy to send you an
>> autographed picture, saying "Thanks for your support".
>>
>
>Don't you have anything else than this old Jewish paranoia about an
>international complot ?
>You're looking like your own caricature of the Krooborg. Which is not a good
>thing IMHO.
>

Thanks for showing all of RAO your true colors and character, Lionel. It
appears that I struck a nerve by accurately identifying your obvious
pro-Palestinian prejudices. Actually, any conspiracies you might reference
occur only in your mind - such as it is. And, Wheeler, myself, and numerous
other victims of Krueger's libel are still waiting for the evidence. You
recall, don't you. You claim you've condemned Krueger's libelous claims. So
where's the evidence?
Where are the posts with your name on them? Why do so many consider you one of
Krueger's bosom buddies and apologists?

Apparently, you've also decided to adopt the Kruegerian tactic of mind-reading
and quasidiagnosis of those with whom you disagree. So any references to
Krueger simply reveal your strong similarities to him in terms of your personal
attack style, it would appear.
>>
>>>>>> Also, whether international support for his assassination is
>>>>>> forthcoming ia matter for individual countries to decide based on
>>>>>> their internal politics. There is no RAO evidence to indicate that
>>>>>> I've been "claiming" (I think you meant to say "clamoring") for
>>>>>> international support.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh you are losing your humour here...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I doubt it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Now you are supporting a guy who is elevating the delation at a normal
>>>>>>>moral behaviour on a Usenet NG :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This probable false claim requireds correction. The word "delation"
>>>>>> refers to
>>>>>> either the conveyance of sounds or accusation by an informer. Neither
>>>>>> definition makes sense in your statement.
>>>>>
>>>>>I consider that when a guy want to give to a person or a group of person
>>>>>an information that hasen't been requested it is *delation*, because the
>>>>>delator acts to cause a prejudice to his victim.
>>>>>In the following text I consider that all conditions of the delation are
>>>>>realized.
>>>>>Like for the gun I guess that this also depends on which side of the
>>>>>delation you are. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Funny that Arny begged me to send a copy to his church but refused to
>>>>>>>offer this address. Thanks. I will send a copy after I get the
>>>>>>>judgement. I figure it will make a better package that way. I will
>>>>>>>include a few choice excerpts from Arny's various posts as well. Hey,
>>>>>>>Arny isn't ashamed of his behavior and he told me to go ahead and send
>>>>>>>these things to his church so he has nothing to worry about."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm supporting Mr. Wheeler, and I think he has every right to
>>>>>> pursue a libel suit against Krueger, and hope he is successful, since
>>>>>> it will probably set a precedent for many other people that Krueger
>>>>>> and McKelvy have libeled on RAO, then you, obviously are supporting
>>>>>> Krueger & McKelvy's right to libel others on RAO. I see no evidence
>>>>>> that you have condemned or criticized the libelous claims made by
>>>>>> either one of these folks.
>>>>>
>>>>>False I have already *clearly* condmned Krueger's libelous writings and
>>>>>I'm sincerely surprised and desappointed that this has escaped from your
>>>>>scrupulous and objective readings.
>>>>>If you're really interested, Google is your friend.
>>>>
>>>> If you've publicly condemned Krueger's documented libelous writings,
>>>> then I
>>>> apologize. I make no claim to have read every word posted by various
>>>> posters on RAO.
>>>
>>>I accept your excuses.
>>>
>>
>> I've made no excuses. It appears that in addition to my failure to ever
>> see a post from you condemning Krueger's use of libel against me and
>> numerous others on RAO, Scott Wheeler has never seen a post from you
>> condemning use of libel
>> either. How is it, Lionel, that so many people (I could obviously name
>> many
>> others) have condemned Krueger for libel but you apparently have not? Of
>> course, if you have done so, as you say, you can no doubt produce some
>> quotations and Google references? I'll withold judgment pending your
>> production of this evidence.
>
>Ask Dave Weil perhaps he remembers.
>

There is no need to do so. You can either produce the evidence that you've
vigorously condemned Krueger's use of libel on RAO - or you can not do so. No
need for other parties to get involved. Just produce the posts - if they
exist.

LOL !!!!


>>>>>Sorry but I must confess that I don't think that you are interested in
>>>>>*this* verity.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then you are wrong, and jumping to conclusions.
>>>
>>>I accept that.
>>>
>>>>>Concerning our today violent exchanges with Scott Wheeler let me tell
>>>>>you the story from my side of the gun.
>>>>>I have been one of the RAO contributor to be critical concerning the
>>>>>Scott Wheeler's lawsuit. Like the others I have been insulted : idiot,
>>>>>stupid, ridiculous, bull****... I was just telling him that IMO he was
>>>>>wrong but... No problem.
>>>>>One day he thought interesting to pushed the game more far and
>>>>>insidiously and implicitly insulted my father (a "yo mama joke" he
>>>>>said...). He was very happy with what he described as a victory saying
>>>>>that he had played with me like a piano...
>>>>>If you are also dubitative Google is still your...
>>>>>
>>>>>Scott Wheeler is a coward and like all the cowards when he find some
>>>>>support he hasn't anymore limits.
>>>>>RAO is the perfect decor for such frustrated coward :
>>>>>- universally hated victim : Arnold Krueger
>>
>> Well, *not* universally. He's always got you and duh-Mikey. :) And I'd
>> hardly call him a "victim". :)
>
>He never got me and I guess/hope that he doesn't care about my support.
>BTW are you trying here to insidiously diffame me ?
>If yes I confirm you that if I was obliged to make a binary choice I would
>prefer to be in front of Krueger than in front of a politically-correct
>hypocrite because I prefer to know where the bullet come from this would
>increase my chances of survival.
>I'm afraid because I suspect that your world has a binary fonctioning, what
>I have called a manicheist (manichean) world :
>if you aren't with me, you are obviously against me
>the good, the bad
>Israelian, Palestinian
>USA, UN
>God, devil
>Sane, Insane ?
>Gooooood, the world is so simple with you Bruce...
>

Actually, your analysis is far more simple and black-and-white thinking
oriented than any attributes you falsely claim are part of my thinking. Of
course, since you have no respect for those that are libeled, you probably
don't believe in right and wrong, either. So if the courts find in favor of
Mr. Wheeler, you can always say they were too simple. Actually, simplistic
reasoning only applies to those that never take sides publically, like you're
now trying to do with the midEast conflict and Krueger, but actually, reveal
definite prejudices with every post - pro-Palestinian, pro-Krueger,
anti-Richman, Middius, Wheeler, YustableSlim, etc. You may not realize it,
Lionel, but you're among the most polarized, one-sided individuals posting on
RAO. Therefore any blather you tend to post about simple thinking is most
likely a projection of your own philosophy rather than mine or that of most of
the RAO readership.



>>>>>- strong and conviced supporters : Middius, Sockpuppet MachinCHose,
>>>>>you... - spectators : millions of Usenet mute readers.
>>
>> Really? :) I serously doubt that there are millions of Usenet readers
>> lurking
>> on RAO. We don't have that kind of sex appeal. :)
>
>I admit I exagerated but it was for S888Wheel pleasure.
>
>>>>>But I don't need to explain all that to you I'm sure that you have
>>>>>already understood.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But as your resentment for Krueger is stronger than your
>>>>>honesty on *this forum* I am not waiting any confidence from you. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Once again, you have made a false statement and engaged in personal
>>>> attacks based on a ridiculous assumption. There is no evidence to
>>>> support your ridiculous false claim.
>>>
>>>Ok you are right there's no evidence so it's not anymore a claim but just
>>>my own strong presumption. ;-)
>>>
>>
>> An unwarranted and unfair presumption you get to have :).
>
>It's the nature of most presumptions...
>

Perhaps it's true of most of yours. It is not necessarily true of most other
presumptions. And of course, some are supported by at least some evidence,
whereas others, such as the one you just made, is not supported by any (other
than the posts of Krueger & McKelvy, of course, which are simply meaningless
propaganda).


>>>>>And you are right, RAO is a kind of sewage pipe...
>>>
>>>> I didn't say that, AFAIK. If you claim that I did, you will, of course,
>>>> demonstrate your "honesty" by providing the appropriate quotation from
>>>> Google.
>>>
>>>Ooops this one come from my poor use of the ponctuation. I explain it
>>>again :
>>>*I* think that you are right to not make any confidence to me...
>>>BECAUSE
>>>*I* think that RAO is a kind of sewage pipe...
>>>
>>
>> Okay. I can "buy off on that". LOT's!!!
>
>Sorry but I've nothing to sell...
>
>
>

On this point, we agree 100%. Does this mean you will be more honest and
objective in the future? Or does it simply mean that you've given up trying
to justify and rationalize propaganda reflecting your prejudices? Or perhaps
both?



Bruce J. Richman

[S888Wheel]

>Date: 4/9/2004 7:44 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - samedi 10 Avril
>2004 04:17 wrote:
>
>>>From: Lionel
>>>Date: 4/9/2004 7:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>>Message-id: >
>>>
>>>S888Wheel - > - samedi 10
>>>Avril 2004 03:35 wrote:
>>>
> I
>> would think even a psuedosophiticated guy like you would know that.
>
>I don't think I can be something like that !


Typical belief of most psuedosophistated folks.


>
>
>
>
>> I know a lot of places
>>>where you wouldn't be able to engage a lawsuit after that.
>>
>> Sounds like a veiled threat. I might take it seriously if you were not
>> saying from the safe haven of a land of quick surrender.
>
>This is because you are paranoid.


Maybe you are just a poor communicator amoung other things. You could have been
trying to brag about your knowledge of geography. It's hard to tell with you.


>
>>>But you are living in an half-million dollars mobile home,
>>
>>
>> Nope. It is actually quite nice and has no trailor hitch. Nice try though.
>> I guess you are becoming Arny's twin more and more with each step of your
>> meltdown. Scum is fundimentally the same all over the world when it is
>> reduced to it's basic elements.
>>
>> protected by some
>>>of the best policemen of the county.
>>
>> Ooh this does sound like a veiled threat now.
>
>You say that because you are paranoid.

No. Basic logic.


>
>> Do you have your white flag
>> ready should things ever go beyond RAO?
>
>I prefer to have a white flag than a brown stinky culotte...

Cullote? Don't know what that is. One has to figure with your sewer time
everything you have is brown and stinky.
Be sure to wipe the **** off your white flag before you wave it. I don't want
you to get in over your head unarmed without the national waepon of France in
full working order.


>You confirm us that you are a wealthy guy with wealthy guy's caprice Scott
>Wheeler. I suspected that you have the possibility to "force" the
>californian justice. What was your father's job ?

Now who is paranoid?


>
>> Your wife is looking to add an other
>>>half-million dollars mobile home to your familial patrimony while you are
>>>trolling on RAO with a poor, mentally retarded, and arrogant french guy...
>>
>> No we are looking at properly built fixed structures at around half that
>> price. Is your home for sale? We could use the leftover pocket change to
>> buy it afterwards and you could rent from us. Or do the French forbid
>> foreign
>> ownership of French land? Are arrogant French retards relaible renters?
>> Wouldn't want to have to evict you.
>
>I think that I should be careful. I don't forget that you are a descendant
>of the Indian nation exterminators. One of the first modern genocide...

Oh, that was my fault personally. I apologize.


>
>>>Arrogant ? Who have said arrogant ? ;-)
>>>Usually there's a moral at the end of the American stories
>>
>>
>> You have been posting around the clock. You must be exhausted. Wouldn't
>> want
>> you to have an accident while skiing this weekend. Better get some sleep
>> before you hit the slopes.
>
>This advice is good for an old tired wealthy fat guy like you Scotty.
>
>
>
>
>
>
I'm getting plenty of sleep each night thank you. Shouldn't you be skiing by
now? I'm begining to think that was just made up.

[Sander deWaal]

Lionel > said:

>- spectators : millions of Usenet mute readers.

This I doubt. Tens, a hundred at most.


--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius > said:

>> Actually, it varies from day to day. In other words, I think one of RAO's
>> finest got stationed in Europe.

>After getting busted out of the Army? Not to mention telling his wife he
>was dead.....

Nah..........don't think so.
Doug surely isn't aware of certain French matters in detail.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

[Bruce J. Richman]

Sander wrote:


>George M. Middius > said:
>
>>> Actually, it varies from day to day. In other words, I think one of RAO's
>>> finest got stationed in Europe.
>
>>After getting busted out of the Army? Not to mention telling his wife he
>>was dead.....
>
>Nah..........don't think so.
>Doug surely isn't aware of certain French matters in detail.
>
>--
>Sander deWaal
>Vacuum Audio Consultancy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Agreed.

Lionel may or may not be a sockpuppet, but I doubt if he's American.

Besides, his prejudices, if sincere, reflect an unfortunate trend in French
views of world events.




Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - samedi
>10 Avril 2004 20:51 wrote:
>
>> Sander wrote:
>>
>>
>>>George M. Middius > said:
>>>
>>>>> Actually, it varies from day to day. In other words, I think one of
>>>>> RAO's finest got stationed in Europe.
>>>
>>>>After getting busted out of the Army? Not to mention telling his wife he
>>>>was dead.....
>>>
>>>Nah..........don't think so.
>>>Doug surely isn't aware of certain French matters in detail.
>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> Lionel may or may not be a sockpuppet, but I doubt if he's American.
>>
>> Besides, his prejudices, if sincere, reflect an unfortunate trend in
>> French views of world events.
>
>Easter cease-fire, I will answer you by tuesday.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I wasn't aware there was a war. No need for a response. Enjoy your Easter
celebrations.



Bruce J. Richman

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Robert Morein - > - vendredi 9 Avril
> 2004 22:28 wrote:
>
> >
> > "Lionel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> http://www.socialaw.com/appslip/99p1440.html
> >>
> >> On January 19, 1973, Wheeler, then age fifteen, was arraigned on a
charge
> > of
> >> statutory rape of a fifteen-year-old girl alleged to have occurred on
> >> December 31, 1972. After only one intervening court appearance, on
March
> > 9,
> >> 1973, he was adjudicated delinquent.(7) He received a one-year
suspended
> >> sentence of commitment to the Department of Youth Services.
> >
> > It just occurred to me, Lionel, that you are picking up the worst of our
> > habits.
> >
> > You should now be eligible for a Green Card :).
>
> Thank for your honesty Bob, just when I was dreading that you could make
me
> this remark one day...
> Sorry for the deception but the responsability should be equally shared,
> fifty-fifty ! Yes I know my card is greener and greener. ;-)
>
> BTW concerning this "Green Card" (LOL) I would exchange it with pleasure
> with one of your worthy Mexican immigrant against the *real* recipe of the
> "chili con carne".
>
You're not serious.
A poll of Frenchmen some years ago indicated that their favorite country,
after France, was the U.S.

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> >>
> > You're not serious.
> > A poll of Frenchmen some years ago indicated that their favorite
country,
> > after France, was the U.S.
>
> It was surely a long time ago.

Yes, it was a long time ago. 20 years ago, there was an interesting poll of
Germans which indicated that the majority would move here because the money
was better :).

> Do you remember that few months ago you have told me a story about one of
> your friend, a french psychologist emigrated to USA ?
> When you told me that this person cannot exercise his profession due to
> mentality incompatibity. I said myself "Bob is a little bit tired... :o)"
> Now I *perfectly* understand what you was speaking about since I have had
> some exchanges with one American psychologist... But at the discharge of
> the psychologist corporation, the one I am speaking about is perhaps a
> fonctionnary.
>
> All this to tell you that I'm really serious.
> I'm not interested to live in your country. I have worked for US company
> from Texas, New York, California, Minnesota I have met more interesting
> people than idiot... but sincerely I cannot stand US way of life. Surely
> because I can't understand it.

I don't know how foreigners view the American way of life.
How do you characterize it's essence?

> For me to be a friendly and honest American is an heroic behaviour which
> could deserve canonization.

Now that is interesting, considering you like to hang out with a bunch of
Yanks.
> BTW the above statements prove that I have a blind faith in human being.
;-)
>
> If the genius of the bottle grant me 3 lifes in 3 different countries they
> would be :
> - Portugal
> - Quebec
> - Chile

I am interested in knowing more about the reasoning behind these choices.

My personal attitude is, I Love New York.
I love the incredible diversity of people who live there.
Yet I met a visiting Pole who didn't like NY because "people are too
different." He felt everyone should dress mostly the same.

What I like about the U.S. is we are a mainstream multicultural society.
IMHO, Quebec is xenophobic -- note expulsion of English as an acceptable
language.
Chile I know nothing about, except that it has very advanced wireless.
Portugal I know nothing about. All my images are from the Salazar era.

OTOH, I have a very positive impression of the EU as a whole, except that
life is absurdly regulated. In the EU, you cannot use "banana plugs" for
audio equipment, because some fool in Sweden electrocuted himself. In the
U.S., you can still buy an amplifier that gets too hot to touch.

Also, we still have inventors who make things in their basements. America is
a land of inventors.

"Live free or die."

[Bruce J. Richman]

Robert Morein wrote:
'

>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>[snip]
>> >>
>> > You're not serious.
>> > A poll of Frenchmen some years ago indicated that their favorite
>country,
>> > after France, was the U.S.
>>
>> It was surely a long time ago.
>
>Yes, it was a long time ago. 20 years ago, there was an interesting poll of
>Germans which indicated that the majority would move here because the money
>was better :).
>
>> Do you remember that few months ago you have told me a story about one of
>> your friend, a french psychologist emigrated to USA ?
>> When you told me that this person cannot exercise his profession due to
>> mentality incompatibity. I said myself "Bob is a little bit tired... :o)"
>> Now I *perfectly* understand what you was speaking about since I have had
>> some exchanges with one American psychologist..

What a bunch of baloney. Needless to say, Lionel understands *nothing* about
psychologists other than what he's read in the libelouis prose of his friends,
Krueger & McKelvy, apparently. Note his use of ridiculous innuendos about the
behavior of other people. (Previously, he had got into calling me a
schizophrenic until I had to correct his ignorance). Like the people he
identifies with, apparrently, he likes to pretend he can engage in personality
evaluation, but in reality, all he's done is demonstrate his need to take cheap
shots at others. Oh, well, what can one expect other than this.


.. But at the discharge of
>> the psychologist corporation, the one I am speaking about is perhaps a
>> fonctionnary.
>>

More irrelevant chatter obviously off topic and designed only to try and be
cute with personal insults. Very transparent, and quite indicative of his
agenda IMHO.




>> All this to tell you that I'm really serious.
>> I'm not interested to live in your country. I have worked for US company
>> from Texas, New York, California, Minnesota I have met more interesting
>> people than idiot... but sincerely I cannot stand US way of life.

That's pretty obvious. His anti-American, pro-Arab-bloc prejudices in which he
wants only one side in the midEast conflict condemned while characterizing
assassins on the other as "just politicians" sort of gives it away. It appears
as if, like his friends in Hamas, he subscribes to the old Arab saying, "the
enemy of my enemy is my friend". Could it be that he's following the same
philosophy here in choosing to parrot some of the Krueger/McKelvy nonsense
about psychologists? Just my hypothesis, of course.



Surely
>> because I can't understand it.
>
>I don't know how foreigners view the American way of life.
>How do you characterize it's essence?
>
>> For me to be a friendly and honest American is an heroic behaviour which
>> could deserve canonization.
>
>Now that is interesting, considering you like to hang out with a bunch of
>Yanks.
>> BTW the above statements prove that I have a blind faith in human being.
>;-)
>>
>> If the genius of the bottle grant me 3 lifes in 3 different countries they
>> would be :
>> - Portugal
>> - Quebec
>> - Chile
>
>I am interested in knowing more about the reasoning behind these choices.
>
>My personal attitude is, I Love New York.
>I love the incredible diversity of people who live there.
>Yet I met a visiting Pole who didn't like NY because "people are too
>different." He felt everyone should dress mostly the same.
>
>What I like about the U.S. is we are a mainstream multicultural society.
>IMHO, Quebec is xenophobic -- note expulsion of English as an acceptable
>language.

Perhaps that's why it is high on Lionel's wish list. Can't have too much
diversity for this fellow. :)


>Chile I know nothing about, except that it has very advanced wireless.
>Portugal I know nothing about. All my images are from the Salazar era.
>
>OTOH, I have a very positive impression of the EU as a whole, except that
>life is absurdly regulated. In the EU, you cannot use "banana plugs" for
>audio equipment, because some fool in Sweden electrocuted himself. In the
>U.S., you can still buy an amplifier that gets too hot to touch.
>
>Also, we still have inventors who make things in their basements. America is
>a land of inventors.
>
>"Live free or die."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Bruce J. Richman

[Robert Morein]

"The Artist" > wrote in message
...
> "Robert Morein" emitted :
>
> >I am interested in knowing more about the reasoning behind these choices.
>
> Me too. Chile I can understand, but what's so enthralling about
> Portugal? And if French as a first language and natural beauty are
> priorities, how about Martinique..?
>
> My choices would be Southern Ireland, Canada or Iceland.
>
> >My personal attitude is, I Love New York.
> >I love the incredible diversity of people who live there.
>
> I've never been, but whenever I see New York streets depicted I wonder
> why so many supposedly diverse people are drawn to such a dirthole.
> Oh.. but it's so bohemian.. ;-)

Why haven't you visited? It's not a dirthole any more. Giuliani cleaned it
up.
OTOH, it was even more fascinating before the cleanup drove up realestate
values and much of the truely artistic population left.

>
> >OTOH, I have a very positive impression of the EU as a whole, except that
> >life is absurdly regulated.
>
> Examples of major discrepancies?
In the EU, you cannot sell an audio amplifier that has an exterior surface
more than about 110 Fahrenheit. This is well below the temperature of a
possible burn. Amplifiers with external heatsinks do not exist there,
because of the prohibition.
IMHO, it should be the buyer's choice.
You can't sell a speaker that has 1/2" spaced banana jacks.
In Sweden you can only paint your house in approved colors.

This kind of regulation occurs in some municipalities here, but it's not the
rule.
In general, eminent domain is more widely used in the EU than here.
In favor of this approach, the landscape, both urban and rural, of the EU
are far tidier than the U.S.
>
> >Also, we still have inventors who make things in their basements. America
is
> >a land of inventors.
>
> That sounds like patriotic nonsense. America has inventors, and like
> other countries with inventors it has fast food joints, factories and
> office blocks too.
>
No, it really is true. There is certainly a lot of invention going on in the
EU, but in corporate environments. The lone-wolf inventor is still a
primarily American phenomenon.
Part of the reason is the incredible availability of laboratory equipment
castoffs from the Department of Defense and the telecom firms. My basement
lab is instrumented in a way that a European inventor would find very
difficult to do. In fact, I've sold a few (non prohibited, export allowed)
items to EU technos who are deprived.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message
...
>
> I don't like the cost, but I'm glad Saddam is out.
> A man like that comes along a few times in a century. The most recent ones
> were Stalin and Hitler.
> He was especially dangerous because he had large geopolitical goals, is
> highly intelligent, and utterly ruthless.
>

Good to know Arny is no problem, as he flunks on two out of three counts.
1) His 'geopolitical' goals are limited to being the self anointed king of
RAO
2) He is an idiot.
However, (3), he is ruthless.

[Robert Morein]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I don't like the cost, but I'm glad Saddam is out.
> > A man like that comes along a few times in a century. The most recent
ones
> > were Stalin and Hitler.
> > He was especially dangerous because he had large geopolitical goals, is
> > highly intelligent, and utterly ruthless.
> >
>
> Good to know Arny is no problem, as he flunks on two out of three counts.
> 1) His 'geopolitical' goals are limited to being the self anointed king of
> RAO
> 2) He is an idiot.
> However, (3), he is ruthless.
>
Arny is a tempest in a teapot.
He is not an effective person.
The most dangerous persons are those who can exercise charm and persusasion
to ruthlessly achieve their unethical goals. Arny has no ability to charm or
persuade.
Personally, I have no indication that Arny's abberant behavior extends
outside of usenet. Like most of us, he lives a life in which his voice is
not widely heard. Hence, the allure of usenet. Arny's voice is a rooster's
barnyard crow, seeking dominion over a tiny chunk of cyberspace.

[S888Wheel]

>Message-id: >
>
>Robert Morein - > - lundi 12 Avril 2004
>08:05 wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > I don't like the cost, but I'm glad Saddam is out.
>>> > A man like that comes along a few times in a century. The most recent
>> ones
>>> > were Stalin and Hitler.
>>> > He was especially dangerous because he had large geopolitical goals, is
>>> > highly intelligent, and utterly ruthless.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Good to know Arny is no problem, as he flunks on two out of three counts.
>>> 1) His 'geopolitical' goals are limited to being the self anointed king
>>> of RAO
>>> 2) He is an idiot.
>>> However, (3), he is ruthless.
>>>
>> Arny is a tempest in a teapot.
>> He is not an effective person.
>> The most dangerous persons are those who can exercise charm and
>> persusasion to ruthlessly achieve their unethical goals. Arny has no
>> ability to charm or persuade.
>> Personally, I have no indication that Arny's abberant behavior extends
>> outside of usenet. Like most of us, he lives a life in which his voice is
>> not widely heard. Hence, the allure of usenet. Arny's voice is a rooster's
>> barnyard crow, seeking dominion over a tiny chunk of cyberspace.
>
>Good answer from my point of view.
>But for Mr Sockpuppet MachinChose and other RAO regulars this is an
>unnatural and incomprehensible statement because they are living *in* the
>teapot. ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Wrong. Obviously wrong.

[S888Wheel]

>Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel - > - lundi 12 Avril
>2004 19:14 wrote:
>
>>>Message-id: >
>>>
>>>Robert Morein - > - lundi 12 Avril
>>>2004 08:05 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I don't like the cost, but I'm glad Saddam is out.
>>>>> > A man like that comes along a few times in a century. The most recent
>>>> ones
>>>>> > were Stalin and Hitler.
>>>>> > He was especially dangerous because he had large geopolitical goals,
>>>>> > is highly intelligent, and utterly ruthless.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to know Arny is no problem, as he flunks on two out of three
>>>>> counts. 1) His 'geopolitical' goals are limited to being the self
>>>>> anointed king of RAO
>>>>> 2) He is an idiot.
>>>>> However, (3), he is ruthless.
>>>>>
>>>> Arny is a tempest in a teapot.
>>>> He is not an effective person.
>>>> The most dangerous persons are those who can exercise charm and
>>>> persusasion to ruthlessly achieve their unethical goals. Arny has no
>>>> ability to charm or persuade.
>>>> Personally, I have no indication that Arny's abberant behavior extends
>>>> outside of usenet. Like most of us, he lives a life in which his voice
>>>> is not widely heard. Hence, the allure of usenet. Arny's voice is a
>>>> rooster's barnyard crow, seeking dominion over a tiny chunk of
>>>> cyberspace.
>>>
>>>Good answer from my point of view.
>>>But for Mr Sockpuppet MachinChose and other RAO regulars this is an
>>>unnatural and incomprehensible statement because they are living *in* the
>>>teapot. ;-)
>>>
>
>> Wrong. Obviously wrong.
>
>?????????????
>Thank you for your fruitful contribution Mr S888Wheel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

No problem.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - samedi
>10 Avril 2004 05:50 wrote:
>
>> Try reading this little article:
>>
>>
>> http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11445
>
>
>00:09 End of Easter cease-fire.
>
>Bruce I don't understand why you post me the above link.

Simply to illustrate that the the rising level of antiSemitism in France has
been documented by others. Note that the eiology (cause) seems to be primarily
attributable to various Muslim clerics and their influence upon their
congregations.



>After 9/11 we have seen on all TV in the world an Immam in London who was
>calling for the holy war. This guy was openly call for more murders in
>occident. This guy was speaking from England the one cited in your link is
>speaking from Switzerland.
>In france we have a law against the "Incitation à la haine raciale", if you
>are interested you will find a translation for it.

As I'm sure you are well aware, inciting racial hatred, while perhaps illegal
in France, would be most unlikely unenforcable. I assume that, as in most
democratic countries, freedom of speech is respected in France. And besides,
what may be contained in a sermon from a pulpit by a cleric might be considered
religious rather than purely secular.


>What you have seen in England and in Switzerland is not possible in France
>this is why those bloody *******s stay out of our frontieres.
>
>What are you complaining for ?
>

The article cited, as well as others, certainly indicates that what you are
minimizing, is not the case.


>00:25 End of war, I capitulate without any conditions. Bravo, you are the
>winner... It was a nice fight, you have have been a skillful strategist.
>Your tactic was perfect you have done a killing soup mixing Krueger, me,
>Arabs, McKelvy, Jewishs, Satan and Americans.

The fact that you choose to respond with sarcasm and an inaccurate
representation of my position is, of course, a sign of surrender, but not for
the reasons you imagine.


I am deathly wounded now,
>agonizing totaly out of arguments.
>Congratulation, you are a real chess master.
>

More sarcasm noted. However, your failed attempt to rationalize your support
for the Palestinian and Arab position is acknowledged. Unfortunately, in your
zealotry, you can't resort to logic and/or reason re. the midEast conflict.




>What is your trophy ? Everything you want among the ruins : I don't care
>anymore about what happened, happen and will happen in the Middle East.

Probably the only true thing you've said re. the midEast conflict. You
apparently favor the status quo, complete with suicide bombings and lack of
peace in the region, I guess.

Here's a simple current reality for you ponder, Lionel. As I'm writing this,
Israel is planning to evacuate the Gaza strip without any reciprocal move on
the part of the Palestinians. IOW, as Israel withdraws, as things stand now,
there is NO indication that the Palestinians, including Hamas (sworn to the
destruction of Israel) will do anything other than continue to try and murder
as many Israelis as possible. Is that your idea of equivalence? If it is,
then yes, you've lost the battle - for logic and fair play.



>Jewishs can kill as many Palestinian they want I promise I will not care
>anymore. Palestinians can do as many suicide bombings they want I promise I
>will not care anymore.
>

This is nonsense. You've already made your prejudices quite clear. You
explicitly condemn the assassination of Yassin but make no similar condemnation
of suicide bombings. You think the US was wrong to veto a one-sided motion by
Algeria in which only one side would have been condemned.

If you choose not to promote your biases, that's fine. But there is no need to
deny which side you favor. You've already indicated that.



>My only problem now is purely arithmetic how long they will take to murder
>themselves in order that we can speak quietly about audio without all this
>background noise ?

As you may already have noted, I'm certainly not one of the RAO posters that
is trying to turn this NG into a political forum. The number of posts I've
made dealing with politics is very small. Also, there has never been anything
to prevent you from posting about audio. If you really want to do so, then you
don't need to waste your time with personal attacks against others. Just post
on audio-related topics.



>You and me aren't responsable of their mutual hatred after all. We are here
>for pleasure only isn't it ? ;-)
>
>
>
>

On this point, we can agree. :)

That said, I don't think the conflict will ever be solved unless both parties
are willing to negotiate. So far, one is willing to negotiate while the other
is committed to no negotiation.


Bruce J. Richman

[Lionel]

Bruce J. Richman wrote:

Bruce all the bull**** I have written above is as constructive as the
link that you provided me.
This was just an other way to tell you that I don't care about such
biased documents than.... McKelvy opinion for example. LOL.
BTW my simulation of capitulation is the real representation of what you
can meet more and more in Europe because people are tired of zealots
like you from both sides :
- Israelian and Palestinian.
- Palestinian and Israelian
In the end like Ponce Pilat they finish to think that this war is far
from us so that it's better to forget.

In the end I will conclude this discussion confirming the point of view
that I shared with Joe and sincerely I'm happy to share it especially
with him. For you I will repeat it 2 times :
- Sharon and Arafat are 2 *******s full of hatred.
- Arafat and Sharon are 2 *******s full of hatred.

PS : you forget to explain me why Krueger, McKelvy and other
abominations was my complices in this discussion.
I guess that this is a little bit other me...

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman wrote:
>
>Bruce all the bull**** I have written above is as constructive as the
>link that you provided me.

That is how you choose to interpret it. However, the facts cited in that
article are subject to verification.


>This was just an other way to tell you that I don't care about such
>biased documents than.... McKelvy opinion for example.




LOL.
>BTW my simulation of capitulation is the real representation of what you
>can meet more and more in Europe because people are tired of zealots
>like you from both sides :

Except, of course, that I am not a zealot, and your claim that I am is
dishonest. But I suppose to an Arab sympathizer such as yourself, who favors
the UN's unequal policy of condemning Yassin's assassination, but not suicide
bombing, anybody opposed to your point of view is a zealot. And as far as the
people of Europe are considered, you've presented no evidence to support your
view that you're a typical European :).



>- Israelian and Palestinian.
>- Palestinian and Israelian
>In the end like Ponce Pilat they finish to think that this war is far
>from us so that it's better to forget.
>

As I've said before, you apparently favor the status quo. (As do the
Palestinians who seem unwilling to negotiate a settlement or make any
concessions).


>In the end I will conclude this discussion confirming the point of view
>that I shared with Joe and sincerely I'm happy to share it especially
>with him. For you I will repeat it 2 times :
>- Sharon and Arafat are 2 *******s full of hatred.
>- Arafat and Sharon are 2 *******s full of hatred.
>

I'll agree with you that both are old men driven by years of hatred. However,
one appears at least willing to negotiate, while the other is not. Remember,
Lionel, that when Sharon's predecessor, tried to negotiate with Arafat and
offered approximately 90% (or more) of the land back, Arafat walked away from
the negotiating table. Shortly after that, the new wave of terrorism started.



>PS : you forget to explain me why Krueger, McKelvy and other
>abominations was my complices in this discussion.
>I guess that this is a little bit other me...
>
>
>
>
I didn't say they were your accomplices in this discussion. Let me clarify
why I brought up their names. You tried to sneak in a few personal insults,
such as calling me "dishonest", and also snidely mentioning "mental
incompatibility" of a psychologist (while referring to "an American
psychologist"). Obviously, like McKelvy & Krueger, itherefore, you decided to
engage in personal insults (dishonesty, mental incompatibility) when you met up
with disagreement. This is what they typically do when people disagree with
them - insult the poster.

Since you claim to be interested in discussing audio, you might be interested
in one of the guidelines for RAHE, a moderated audio NG. You can attack or
disagree with a particular point of view, but you can't attack the person
posting that point of view. IOW, you can attack an argument if you want, but
not engage in personal attacks against the person makking them. Or as is said
in America sometimes, you "can attack the message, but not kill the messenger".
Unfortunately IMHO you crossed that line when you decided to make unprovoked
personal attacks.




Bruce J. Richman

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > I don't like the cost, but I'm glad Saddam is out.
> > > A man like that comes along a few times in a century. The most recent
> ones
> > > were Stalin and Hitler.
> > > He was especially dangerous because he had large geopolitical goals,
is
> > > highly intelligent, and utterly ruthless.
> > >
> >
> > Good to know Arny is no problem, as he flunks on two out of three
counts.
> > 1) His 'geopolitical' goals are limited to being the self anointed king
of
> > RAO
> > 2) He is an idiot.
> > However, (3), he is ruthless.
> >
> Arny is a tempest in a teapot.
> He is not an effective person.
> The most dangerous persons are those who can exercise charm and
persusasion
> to ruthlessly achieve their unethical goals. Arny has no ability to charm
or
> persuade.
> Personally, I have no indication that Arny's abberant behavior extends
> outside of usenet. Like most of us, he lives a life in which his voice is
> not widely heard. Hence, the allure of usenet. Arny's voice is a rooster's
> barnyard crow, seeking dominion over a tiny chunk of cyberspace.
>
>

Many of us have heard a recording of his voice. He has a high pitched whine,
like a wounded chipmunk.

[Robert Morein]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > I don't like the cost, but I'm glad Saddam is out.
> > > > A man like that comes along a few times in a century. The most
recent
> > ones
> > > > were Stalin and Hitler.
> > > > He was especially dangerous because he had large geopolitical goals,
> is
> > > > highly intelligent, and utterly ruthless.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Good to know Arny is no problem, as he flunks on two out of three
> counts.
> > > 1) His 'geopolitical' goals are limited to being the self anointed
king
> of
> > > RAO
> > > 2) He is an idiot.
> > > However, (3), he is ruthless.
> > >
> > Arny is a tempest in a teapot.
> > He is not an effective person.
> > The most dangerous persons are those who can exercise charm and
> persusasion
> > to ruthlessly achieve their unethical goals. Arny has no ability to
charm
> or
> > persuade.
> > Personally, I have no indication that Arny's abberant behavior extends
> > outside of usenet. Like most of us, he lives a life in which his voice
is
> > not widely heard. Hence, the allure of usenet. Arny's voice is a
rooster's
> > barnyard crow, seeking dominion over a tiny chunk of cyberspace.
> >
> >
>
> Many of us have heard a recording of his voice. He has a high pitched
whine,
> like a wounded chipmunk.
>
Interesting. So does Brian L. McCarty.

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius > said:

>Who then? Nousiane?

I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
European", if ever something like that existed.
The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!

LOt;'s!

;-)

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

[Marc Phillips]

Mr. Middius said:

>Sander deWaal said:
>
>> >> Actually, it varies from day to day. In other words, I think one of
>RAO's
>> >> finest got stationed in Europe.
>>
>> >After getting busted out of the Army? Not to mention telling his wife he
>> >was dead.....
>>
>> Nah..........don't think so.
>> Doug surely isn't aware of certain French matters in detail.
>
>Who then? Nousiane?

If it was Druggie, he'd at least make it so you could understand the broken
English in order to get his insults through. Every post of Lionel's is a train
wreck, made even more pathetic by the fact he still remains here, oblivious to
the fact that it's just too much work trying to figure out what he says.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Sander said:

>George M. Middius > said:
>
>>Who then? Nousiane?
>
>I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
>European", if ever something like that existed.
>The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
>I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!
>
> LOt;'s!
>
>;-)

The way Lionel came in here and picked sides so quickly suggests that this is
not his first incarnation on RAO, though.

Boon

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - mardi 13
>Avril 2004 03:56 wrote:
>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bruce J. Richman wrote:
>>>
>>>Bruce all the bull**** I have written above is as constructive as the
>>>link that you provided me.
>>
>> That is how you choose to interpret it. However, the facts cited in that
>> article are subject to verification.
>>
>>
>>>This was just an other way to tell you that I don't care about such
>>>biased documents than.... McKelvy opinion for example.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL.
>>>BTW my simulation of capitulation is the real representation of what you
>>>can meet more and more in Europe because people are tired of zealots
>>>like you from both sides :
>>
>> Except, of course, that I am not a zealot, and your claim that I am is
>> dishonest. But I suppose to an Arab sympathizer such as yourself, who
>> favors the UN's unequal policy of condemning Yassin's assassination, but
>> not suicide
>> bombing, anybody opposed to your point of view is a zealot.
>
>At your request I have clearly and explicitly condamned Yassin and suicide
>bombings.
>But I am still agree that his assassination by Israel diserve the war and
>the hatred. This is why I'm still confirm that UN condemnation was a good
>decision.
>

The UN resolution calling for condemnation was one-sided. It condemned the
Israelis but not the Palestinians. Do you think that is fair and objective?


>> And as far as
>> the people of Europe are considered, you've presented no evidence to
>> support your view that you're a typical European :).
>
>I am a issued from an Auvergnate French European family. I don't know if I
>am typical of anything.

OK. Fair enough.


Some of the regular think that I am a typical
>idiot, :o) I let you judge.
>By your profession you know that the world is an incredible source of
>diversity.

Absolutely.


Don't try to simplify too much and I will do my best to honestly
>imitate you.
>

I'm well aware of the complexities involved. You'd be better advised not to
imitate anybody else, IMHO.


>>
>>>- Israelian and Palestinian.
>>>- Palestinian and Israelian
>>>In the end like Ponce Pilat they finish to think that this war is far
>>>from us so that it's better to forget.
>>>
>>
>> As I've said before, you apparently favor the status quo. (As do the
>> Palestinians who seem unwilling to negotiate a settlement or make any
>> concessions).
>
>I don't decide about anything in this matter and you are right to temperate
>your text writing "apparently".
>I cannot be in favor of the status quo since the status quo is the cause of
>daily death of innocents.
>

I was just inferring that on the basis of you're saying that you didn't care
one way or the other.


>>
>>
>>>In the end I will conclude this discussion confirming the point of view
>>>that I shared with Joe and sincerely I'm happy to share it especially
>>>with him. For you I will repeat it 2 times :
>>>- Sharon and Arafat are 2 *******s full of hatred.
>>>- Arafat and Sharon are 2 *******s full of hatred.
>>>
>>
>> I'll agree with you that both are old men driven by years of hatred.
>> However,
>> one appears at least willing to negotiate, while the other is not.
>> Remember, Lionel, that when Sharon's predecessor, tried to negotiate with
>> Arafat and offered approximately 90% (or more) of the land back, Arafat
>> walked away from
>> the negotiating table. Shortly after that, the new wave of terrorism
>> started.
>
>I cannot forget that Anouar El Sadate has been murdered by Arabs and Yitzhak
>Rabin by Israelians. Can you tell me the true of this ?
>
>

So? All that indicates is that there are zealots on both sides opposed to
peace.
The fact remains that one side is willing to negotiate and the other has
rejected negotiations. Read the pronouncements of Hamas - which is probably
more powerful amongst Palestinians than the PLO at this point, and you can
reach no other conclusion..



Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Sader deWaal wrote:


>George M. Middius > said:
>
>>Who then? Nousiane?
>
>I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
>European", if ever something like that existed.
>The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
>I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!
>
> LOt;'s!
>
>;-)
>
>--
>Sander deWaal
>Vacuum Audio Consultancy
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks for admitting that you worship Mullards!

(I use CV4004's in both my preamplifier and DAC, personally)



Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Mr. Phillips wrote:


>Sander said:
>
>>George M. Middius > said:
>>
>>>Who then? Nousiane?
>>
>>I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
>>European", if ever something like that existed.
>>The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
>>I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!
>>
>> LOt;'s!
>>
>>;-)
>
>The way Lionel came in here and picked sides so quickly suggests that this is
>not his first incarnation on RAO, though.
>
>Boon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

That could well be the case - especially considering the side he chose.



Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - mardi 13
>Avril 2004 22:54 wrote:
>
>> Mr. Phillips wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sander said:
>>>
>>>>George M. Middius > said:
>>>>
>>>>>Who then? Nousiane?
>>>>
>>>>I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
>>>>European", if ever something like that existed.
>>>>The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
>>>>I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!
>>>>
>>>> LOt;'s!
>>>>
>>>>;-)
>>>
>>>The way Lionel came in here and picked sides so quickly suggests that this
>>>is not his first incarnation on RAO, though.
>>>
>>>Boon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That could well be the case - especially considering the side he chose.
>
>What is the side I chose Bruce ? The Palestinian one ? ;-)
>

No, your decision to attack many of Krueger & McKelvy's targets, including
myself. As you do in this post. Very predictable of a Krueger/Mckelvy
apologist.



>BTW and for your information only I haven't *posted* or *read* anything on
>RAO before July 2003.
>I think that this ****ty hole has had some attraction for me.
>One quit, one stay, I am one who stay.
>
>Bruce don't consider this as a personal attack ;-) but I start to think that
>you are an ass licker. Sorry but honesty always pays.


Unfortunately, you don't know anything about honesty. Since you've decided to
follow the unporovoked personal attack methods of Krueger & McKelvy, I guess
you won't take it as a personal attack if I conclude that you appear to be a
pathological liar. You have claimed you have condemned Krueger's libelous
claims on RAO, but when asked to provide evidence of this produce none. And
like McKelvy, you call other people dishonest simply because you disagree with
them. Of course, you have no evidence that I'm dishonest nor that any of the
other people you smear are dishonest.

As Marc Phillips observed, you chose your side - the one that specializes in
unprovoked personal attacks, lack of evidence for lies made, and bull****.

Enjoy yourself there :) You meet all the requirements.





>I'm waiting for you on the other thread.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - mardi 13
>Avril 2004 23:31 wrote:
>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bruce J. Richman - > - mardi
>>>13 Avril 2004 22:54 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mr. Phillips wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sander said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>George M. Middius > said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Who then? Nousiane?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
>>>>>>European", if ever something like that existed.
>>>>>>The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
>>>>>>I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOt;'s!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>The way Lionel came in here and picked sides so quickly suggests that
>>>>>this is not his first incarnation on RAO, though.
>>>>>
>>>>>Boon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That could well be the case - especially considering the side he chose.
>>>
>>>What is the side I chose Bruce ? The Palestinian one ? ;-)
>>>
>>
>> No, your decision to attack many of Krueger & McKelvy's targets,
>> including
>> myself. As you do in this post. Very predictable of a Krueger/Mckelvy
>> apologist.
>
>Your world is too simple Bruce, I've told you that several time before.
>I've never attacked you, I have just overestimated of your sens of humour.
>

That, of course, is not true. You've claimed, in the past, that I'm dishonest.
You've made references to psychologists and "mental incompatibility'{,
whatever the hell that means. And of course, you now claiim that calling
somebody an "ass licker" is not a personal attack. Of course, we all know
otherwise, And no, this has nothing to do with how I view the world or my
sense of humor. Unless you claim to be able to read minds, you know nothing
about either one of these.


>I am not their apologist but I cannot prevent the inverse to be false. ;-)
>
>>>BTW and for your information only I haven't *posted* or *read* anything on
>>>RAO before July 2003.
>>>I think that this ****ty hole has had some attraction for me.
>>>One quit, one stay, I am one who stay.
>>>
>>>Bruce don't consider this as a personal attack ;-) but I start to think
>>>that you are an ass licker. Sorry but honesty always pays.
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, you don't know anything about honesty. Since you've
>> decided to follow the unporovoked personal attack methods of Krueger &
>> McKelvy, I guess you won't take it as a personal attack if I conclude that
>> you appear to be a
>> pathological liar. You have claimed you have condemned Krueger's libelous
>> claims on RAO, but when asked to provide evidence of this produce none.
>
>If I provide you the requested proofs *now* don't you be afraid to be
>accused to be a pathological liar ? ;o)
>BTW let me remember you know that we have convinced together (you and me)
>some months ago that McKelvy is an idiot.
>Was it before or after your last senility crizis ?

More idiotic bull****. Still trying to convince us that you're actively
campaigning for the role of village idiot in your little town?



>
>> And like McKelvy, you call other people dishonest simply because you
>> disagree with
>> them.
>
>I never say that you are dishonest


That is not true. A recent post claimed I was "less honest" than others.
There is no matter of degree here; you claimed it and now you pretend to be an
expert on the intelligence of others.


Bruce, I think that your obvious
>neurones' fatigue doesn't help you to be brilliant on RAO but I like you
>anyway.
>

Since you're grossly incompetent when it comes to evaluatin the mental status
of other people, your opinion is worthless in this area. Stick to evaluating
sewage; let those qualified to evaluate mental competency and/or neurological
problems do so (such as myself). You're just making a fool of yourself when
you pretend to be able to evaluate others.

Of course, if you want to write a learned thesis or conduct a comparative study
of great sewage systems in France and America, I'll defer to your expertise.





>> Of course, you have no evidence that I'm dishonest nor that any of
>> the other people you smear are dishonest.
>>
>> As Marc Phillips observed, you chose your side - the one that specializes
>> in unprovoked personal attacks, lack of evidence for lies made, and
>> bull****.
>
>Marc is a specialist of pedophilia so this discussion is out of his domain
>of competences.
>


A false claim you get to make, I suppose.
There is no evidence to support it, however.



>
>
>
>
>


Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - mercredi
>14 Avril 2004 01:26 wrote:
>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bruce J. Richman - > - mardi
>>>13 Avril 2004 23:31 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lionel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bruce J. Richman - > -
>>>>>mardi 13 Avril 2004 22:54 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr. Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sander said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>George M. Middius > said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Who then? Nousiane?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
>>>>>>>>European", if ever something like that existed.
>>>>>>>>The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
>>>>>>>>I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOt;'s!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The way Lionel came in here and picked sides so quickly suggests that
>>>>>>>this is not his first incarnation on RAO, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Boon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That could well be the case - especially considering the side he
>>>>>> chose.
>>>>>
>>>>>What is the side I chose Bruce ? The Palestinian one ? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, your decision to attack many of Krueger & McKelvy's targets,
>>>> including
>>>> myself. As you do in this post. Very predictable of a Krueger/Mckelvy
>>>> apologist.
>>>
>>>Your world is too simple Bruce, I've told you that several time before.
>>>I've never attacked you, I have just overestimated of your sens of humour.
>>>
>>
>> That, of course, is not true. You've claimed, in the past, that I'm
>> dishonest.
>> You've made references to psychologists and "mental incompatibility'{,
>> whatever the hell that means.
>
>Bruce here you are a *liar*. The subject was proposed to me for discussion
>purpose by Bob Morein a long time ago.

This is a lie. Your post, in which you went on to compare him to me was
written not that long ago. Your not so subtle attempt to compare me to a
French psychologist described by Robert Morein was written this month, April,
2004. Are you now contending that your ridiculous comparison of that
psychologist (alleged - see below) and myself was written a "long time ago".
The quote follows:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20040410230352.13360.00000101%40mb-m1
8.aol.com&output=gplain

" Do you remember that few months ago you have told me a story about one of
>> your friend, a french psychologist emigrated to USA ?
>> When you told me that this person cannot exercise his profession due to
>> mentality incompatibity. I said myself "Bob is a little bit tired... :o)"
>> Now I *perfectly* understand what you was speaking about since I have had
>> some exchanges with one American psychologist.."

After reading and responding to your obvious lies about similarities between a
French "psychologist" and myself with refereence4 to "mental incompatibility",
I was curious, so I checked on the qualifications for "French psychologists".
Unless this person described by Bob Morein had a Ph.D. from an approriate
French university, his training *in no way* resembles that of a licensed
American psychologist. According to the web site referenced below, most French
"psychologists" simply must graduate from a 5 year program - or in other words,
get about the equivalent of an undergraduate (or Bachelor's degree) in the
United States. There is also no mention of licensing requirements - at least
on the web site. So, unless Bob Morein wants to clarify, it is quite likely
that the "French psychologist" was in no way, shape, or form, comparable either
in terms of trainin or skill set to that of an American psychologist. The web
site is as follows:

http://www.europsych.org/EuroPsyT/national/qualfrance.shtml

Perhaps, Lionel, you'd like to clarify your latest smear/lie as quoted above,
by defining what you mean by "mental incompatibility". Or were you, perhaps,
trying to read Bob Morein's mind and assumng that he meant something you
believe despite lack of factual evidence?

I'd be more than glad to have Bob Morein, since you mentioned his name to
justify your unprovoked personal attack on *this* psychologist, clarify what he
meant by "mental incompatibility"/.

That's assuming of course, that you're ionterested in facts rather than
character assassination.


So once again, Lionel, you've been shown to be a liar.


BTW Bob is a smart guy because he
>refused to enter in this polemist debate because you was part of it. You
>forget to thank him.
>

You're lying again. Making claims about Bob Morein's motivations not in
evidence, Lionel, is part of your willingness, I suppose, to invent more absurd
claims about others who disagree with you.



>> And of course, you now claiim that calling
>> somebody an "ass licker" is not a personal attack. Of course, we all know
>> otherwise, And no, this has nothing to do with how I view the world or my
>> sense of humor. Unless you claim to be able to read minds, you know
>> nothing about either one of these.
>>
>>
>>>I am not their apologist but I cannot prevent the inverse to be false. ;-)
>>>
>>>>>BTW and for your information only I haven't *posted* or *read* anything
>>>>>on RAO before July 2003.
>>>>>I think that this ****ty hole has had some attraction for me.
>>>>>One quit, one stay, I am one who stay.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bruce don't consider this as a personal attack ;-) but I start to think
>>>>>that you are an ass licker. Sorry but honesty always pays.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, you don't know anything about honesty. Since you've
>>>> decided to follow the unporovoked personal attack methods of Krueger &
>>>> McKelvy, I guess you won't take it as a personal attack if I conclude
>>>> that you appear to be a
>>>> pathological liar. You have claimed you have condemned Krueger's
>>>> libelous claims on RAO, but when asked to provide evidence of this
>>>> produce none.
>>>
>>>If I provide you the requested proofs *now* don't you be afraid to be
>>>accused to be a pathological liar ? ;o)

You've already been challenged by both Scott Wheeler and myself to provide
Google proof that you have condemned Krueger's libelous comments. You've
failed to do so.



>>>BTW let me remember you know that we have convinced together (you and me)
>>>some months ago that McKelvy is an idiot.
>>>Was it before or after your last senility crizis ?
>>
>> More idiotic bull****. Still trying to convince us that you're actively
>> campaigning for the role of village idiot in your little town?
>
>In my village yes, but on RAO you are challenging me. ;-)
>
>>>> And like McKelvy, you call other people dishonest simply because you
>>>> disagree with
>>>> them.
>>>
>>>I never say that you are dishonest
>>
>>
>> That is not true. A recent post claimed I was "less honest" than others.
>> There is no matter of degree here; you claimed it and now you pretend to
>> be an expert on the intelligence of others.
>
>You don't understand me, Bruce. I confirm that when you are speaking about
>Israelo-Palestinian conflict, *I* think that your are less honest than some
>other guys.
>BTW don't be afraid of that, one pretends that I'm never honest. :O)
>
>
>>> Bruce, I think that your obvious
>>>neurones' fatigue doesn't help you to be brilliant on RAO but I like you
>>>anyway.
>>>
>>
>> Since you're grossly incompetent when it comes to evaluatin the mental
>> status
>> of other people, your opinion is worthless in this area. Stick to
>> evaluating sewage; let those qualified to evaluate mental competency
>> and/or neurological
>> problems do so (such as myself). You're just making a fool of yourself
>> when you pretend to be able to evaluate others.
>
>No ! no ! You are unjust here.
>I was just trying to explain and remedy to your more and more frequent
>abscences.
>

I can't prevent you from trying to rationalize your idiotic comments by lying
again, I suppose. As usual, you present no evidence to support your
noonsensical comments. Note that I've provided Google documentation - you have
not.


>> Of course, if you want to write a learned thesis or conduct a comparative
>> study of great sewage systems in France and America, I'll defer to your
>> expertise.
>
>And this would be a good choice Bruce.
>The most important is not the job you do, Bruce, the most important is to do
>it well... Do you see what I mean ? ;-)
>

And despite your choice to delude yourself and believe the libelous claims re.
this psychologist by McKelvy & Krueger, I do my job very well.



>>>> Of course, you have no evidence that I'm dishonest nor that any of
>>>> the other people you smear are dishonest.
>>>>
>>>> As Marc Phillips observed, you chose your side - the one that
>>>> specializes in unprovoked personal attacks, lack of evidence for lies
>>>> made, and bull****.
>>>
>>>Marc is a specialist of pedophilia so this discussion is out of his domain
>>>of competences.
>
>
>> A false claim you get to make, I suppose.
>> There is no evidence to support it, however.
>
>Bruce you are dishonest once again.
No I'm not. Provide the evidence. You made a ridiculous claim, so back it up,
or admit you were lying.



Marc is claiming since so many years
>that he knows everything about Krueger's pedophilia that I suppose he is a
>specialist. There are hundreds posts to support my point. :o)
>
>

Then you should have no trouble providing a post in which Marc claims that he
"knows everything about Krueger's pedophilia". We have an expression in the
US, Lionel, which I'm going to modify slightly so you'll understand it:

"Evidence talks, and bull**** walks". It looks like you'll be hiking for a
long time.



Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - mercredi
>14 Avril 2004 02:26 wrote:
>
>>>>>Your world is too simple Bruce, I've told you that several time before.
>>>>>I've never attacked you, I have just overestimated of your sens of
>>>>>humour.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That, of course, is not true. You've claimed, in the past, that I'm
>>>> dishonest.
>>>> You've made references to psychologists and "mental incompatibility'{,
>>>> whatever the hell that means.
>>>
>>>Bruce here you are a *liar*. The subject was proposed to me for discussion
>>>purpose by Bob Morein a long time ago.
>>
>> This is a lie. Your post, in which you went on to compare him to me was
>> written not that long ago. Your not so subtle attempt to compare me to a
>> French psychologist described by Robert Morein was written this month,
>> April,
>> 2004. Are you now contending that your ridiculous comparison of that
>> psychologist (alleged - see below) and myself was written a "long time
>> ago". The quote follows:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20040410230352.13360.00000101%40mb-m1
>> 8.aol.com&output=gplain
>>
>> " Do you remember that few months ago you have told me a story about one
>> of
>>>> your friend, a french psychologist emigrated to USA ?
>>>> When you told me that this person cannot exercise his profession due to
>>>> mentality incompatibity. I said myself "Bob is a little bit tired...
>>>> :o)" Now I *perfectly* understand what you was speaking about since I
>>>> have had some exchanges with one American psychologist.."
>>
>> After reading and responding to your obvious lies about similarities
>> between a French "psychologist" and myself with refereence4 to "mental
>> incompatibility", I was curious, so I checked on the qualifications for
>> "French psychologists". Unless this person described by Bob Morein had a
>> Ph.D. from an approriate French university, his training *in no way*
>> resembles that of a licensed
>> American psychologist. According to the web site referenced below, most
>> French "psychologists" simply must graduate from a 5 year program - or in
>> other words, get about the equivalent of an undergraduate (or Bachelor's
>> degree) in the
>> United States. There is also no mention of licensing requirements - at
>> least
>> on the web site. So, unless Bob Morein wants to clarify, it is quite
>> likely that the "French psychologist" was in no way, shape, or form,
>> comparable either
>> in terms of trainin or skill set to that of an American psychologist. The
>> web site is as follows:
>>
>> http://www.europsych.org/EuroPsyT/national/qualfrance.shtml
>>
>> Perhaps, Lionel, you'd like to clarify your latest smear/lie as quoted
>> above,
>> by defining what you mean by "mental incompatibility". Or were you,
>> perhaps, trying to read Bob Morein's mind and assumng that he meant
>> something you believe despite lack of factual evidence?
>>
>> I'd be more than glad to have Bob Morein, since you mentioned his name to
>> justify your unprovoked personal attack on *this* psychologist, clarify
>> what he meant by "mental incompatibility"/.
>>
>> That's assuming of course, that you're ionterested in facts rather than
>> character assassination.
>>
>>
>> So once again, Lionel, you've been shown to be a liar.
>
>Don't be so hard.
>I must recognize that I'm a little bit confused because I cannot find any
>trace of this with Google.
>For my pride salvation I hope that Bob Morein will be able to help me to
>replace this question in its original context.
>Don't move and stay here I'm going to ask him.
>
>> BTW Bob is a smart guy because he
>>>refused to enter in this polemist debate because you was part of it. You
>>>forget to thank him.
>>>
>>
>> You're lying again. Making claims about Bob Morein's motivations not in
>> evidence, Lionel, is part of your willingness, I suppose, to invent more
>> absurd claims about others who disagree with you.
>
>I was joking. :o)
>
>
>>
>>>> And of course, you now claiim that calling
>>>> somebody an "ass licker" is not a personal attack. Of course, we all
>>>> know
>>>> otherwise, And no, this has nothing to do with how I view the world or
>>>> my
>>>> sense of humor. Unless you claim to be able to read minds, you know
>>>> nothing about either one of these.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am not their apologist but I cannot prevent the inverse to be false.
>>>>>;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW and for your information only I haven't *posted* or *read*
>>>>>>>anything on RAO before July 2003.
>>>>>>>I think that this ****ty hole has had some attraction for me.
>>>>>>>One quit, one stay, I am one who stay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bruce don't consider this as a personal attack ;-) but I start to
>>>>>>>think that you are an ass licker. Sorry but honesty always pays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, you don't know anything about honesty. Since you've
>>>>>> decided to follow the unporovoked personal attack methods of Krueger &
>>>>>> McKelvy, I guess you won't take it as a personal attack if I conclude
>>>>>> that you appear to be a
>>>>>> pathological liar. You have claimed you have condemned Krueger's
>>>>>> libelous claims on RAO, but when asked to provide evidence of this
>>>>>> produce none.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I provide you the requested proofs *now* don't you be afraid to be
>>>>>accused to be a pathological liar ? ;o)
>>
>> You've already been challenged by both Scott Wheeler and myself to provide
>> Google proof that you have condemned Krueger's libelous comments. You've
>> failed to do so.
>
>How much are you ready to pay to get these proofs ?
>
>
>> And despite your choice to delude yourself and believe the libelous claims
>> re. this psychologist by McKelvy & Krueger, I do my job very well.
>
>Gooood ! Did I said the contrary ?
>
>> Then you should have no trouble providing a post in which Marc claims that
>> he
>> "knows everything about Krueger's pedophilia". We have an expression in
>> the US, Lionel, which I'm going to modify slightly so you'll understand
>> it:
>>
>> "Evidence talks, and bull**** walks". It looks like you'll be hiking for
>> a long time.
>
>LOL ! you can leave your slippers for walking shoes now !
>
>De :Marc Phillips )
>Objet :Re: Who...
>
>View this article only
>
> Groupes de discussion :rec.audio.opinion
>Date :2003-09-29 06:51:50 PST
>
>[snip]
>
>First of all, ****head, I've never seen any pedophilic posts from the Devil.
>Second, we're joking around above. Third, my only interest in pedophilia is
>in getting you, a pedophile, off Usenet and into jail.
>
>[snip]
>
>Boon
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce J. Richman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman - > - mercredi
>14 Avril 2004 02:26 wrote:
>
>>>>>Your world is too simple Bruce, I've told you that several time before.
>>>>>I've never attacked you, I have just overestimated of your sens of
>>>>>humour.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That, of course, is not true. You've claimed, in the past, that I'm
>>>> dishonest.
>>>> You've made references to psychologists and "mental incompatibility'{,
>>>> whatever the hell that means.
>>>
>>>Bruce here you are a *liar*. The subject was proposed to me for discussion
>>>purpose by Bob Morein a long time ago.
>>
>> This is a lie. Your post, in which you went on to compare him to me was
>> written not that long ago. Your not so subtle attempt to compare me to a
>> French psychologist described by Robert Morein was written this month,
>> April,
>> 2004. Are you now contending that your ridiculous comparison of that
>> psychologist (alleged - see below) and myself was written a "long time
>> ago". The quote follows:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20040410230352.13360.00000101%40mb-m1
>> 8.aol.com&output=gplain
>>
>> " Do you remember that few months ago you have told me a story about one
>> of
>>>> your friend, a french psychologist emigrated to USA ?
>>>> When you told me that this person cannot exercise his profession due to
>>>> mentality incompatibity. I said myself "Bob is a little bit tired...
>>>> :o)" Now I *perfectly* understand what you was speaking about since I
>>>> have had some exchanges with one American psychologist.."
>>
>> After reading and responding to your obvious lies about similarities
>> between a French "psychologist" and myself with refereence4 to "mental
>> incompatibility", I was curious, so I checked on the qualifications for
>> "French psychologists". Unless this person described by Bob Morein had a
>> Ph.D. from an approriate French university, his training *in no way*
>> resembles that of a licensed
>> American psychologist. According to the web site referenced below, most
>> French "psychologists" simply must graduate from a 5 year program - or in
>> other words, get about the equivalent of an undergraduate (or Bachelor's
>> degree) in the
>> United States. There is also no mention of licensing requirements - at
>> least
>> on the web site. So, unless Bob Morein wants to clarify, it is quite
>> likely that the "French psychologist" was in no way, shape, or form,
>> comparable either
>> in terms of trainin or skill set to that of an American psychologist. The
>> web site is as follows:
>>
>> http://www.europsych.org/EuroPsyT/national/qualfrance.shtml
>>
>> Perhaps, Lionel, you'd like to clarify your latest smear/lie as quoted
>> above,
>> by defining what you mean by "mental incompatibility". Or were you,
>> perhaps, trying to read Bob Morein's mind and assumng that he meant
>> something you believe despite lack of factual evidence?
>>
>> I'd be more than glad to have Bob Morein, since you mentioned his name to
>> justify your unprovoked personal attack on *this* psychologist, clarify
>> what he meant by "mental incompatibility"/.
>>
>> That's assuming of course, that you're ionterested in facts rather than
>> character assassination.
>>
>>
>> So once again, Lionel, you've been shown to be a liar.
>
>Don't be so hard.
>I must recognize that I'm a little bit confused because I cannot find any
>trace of this with Google.

The link was provided in my post. The quotation is taken from your post.


>For my pride salvation I hope that Bob Morein will be able to help me to
>replace this question in its original context.

The context is somewhat irrelevant. The facts, as indicated in your quoted
smear above, are that you made reference to a French psychologist whom you
claim Bob Morein said was suffering from "mentality incompatibility". You then
said you understood this now after talking with me. Your meaning was obvious.
Don't insult our intelligence by claiming that your intent was not to defame
me. There was no reason at all, otherwise, to bring up a comparison between
Bob's friend and myself.




>Don't move and stay here I'm going to ask him.
>
>> BTW Bob is a smart guy because he
>>>refused to enter in this polemist debate because you was part of it. You
>>>forget to thank him.
>>>
>>
>> You're lying again. Making claims about Bob Morein's motivations not in
>> evidence, Lionel, is part of your willingness, I suppose, to invent more
>> absurd claims about others who disagree with you.
>
>I was joking. :o)
>
>
>>
>>>> And of course, you now claiim that calling
>>>> somebody an "ass licker" is not a personal attack. Of course, we all
>>>> know
>>>> otherwise, And no, this has nothing to do with how I view the world or
>>>> my
>>>> sense of humor. Unless you claim to be able to read minds, you know
>>>> nothing about either one of these.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am not their apologist but I cannot prevent the inverse to be false.
>>>>>;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW and for your information only I haven't *posted* or *read*
>>>>>>>anything on RAO before July 2003.
>>>>>>>I think that this ****ty hole has had some attraction for me.
>>>>>>>One quit, one stay, I am one who stay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bruce don't consider this as a personal attack ;-) but I start to
>>>>>>>think that you are an ass licker. Sorry but honesty always pays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, you don't know anything about honesty. Since you've
>>>>>> decided to follow the unporovoked personal attack methods of Krueger &
>>>>>> McKelvy, I guess you won't take it as a personal attack if I conclude
>>>>>> that you appear to be a
>>>>>> pathological liar. You have claimed you have condemned Krueger's
>>>>>> libelous claims on RAO, but when asked to provide evidence of this
>>>>>> produce none.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I provide you the requested proofs *now* don't you be afraid to be
>>>>>accused to be a pathological liar ? ;o)
>>
>> You've already been challenged by both Scott Wheeler and myself to provide
>> Google proof that you have condemned Krueger's libelous comments. You've
>> failed to do so.
>
>How much are you ready to pay to get these proofs ?
>

You obviously have not been able to provide any documented Google proof that
you've condemned Krueger's libelous attacks.



>
>> And despite your choice to delude yourself and believe the libelous claims
>> re. this psychologist by McKelvy & Krueger, I do my job very well.
>
>Gooood ! Did I said the contrary ?
>

Comments about a "senility crisis", "neurone abscensces" and other idiotic
phrases you've used all have the same purpose. Has McKelvy been coaching you?
:)




>> Then you should have no trouble providing a post in which Marc claims that
>> he
>> "knows everything about Krueger's pedophilia". We have an expression in
>> the US, Lionel, which I'm going to modify slightly so you'll understand
>> it:
>>
>> "Evidence talks, and bull**** walks". It looks like you'll be hiking for
>> a long time.
>
>LOL ! you can leave your slippers for walking shoes now !
>
>De :Marc Phillips )
>Objet :Re: Who...
>
>View this article only
>
> Groupes de discussion :rec.audio.opinion
>Date :2003-09-29 06:51:50 PST
>
>[snip]
>
>First of all, ****head, I've never seen any pedophilic posts from the Devil.
>Second, we're joking around above. Third, my only interest in pedophilia is
>in getting you, a pedophile, off Usenet and into jail.
>
>[snip]
>
>Boon
>
>

You lose, Lionel. Again. There is nothing in the quote above that indicates
that Marc Phillips is an "expert on pedophilia".
I can''t help but notice that you've now, quite predictably, deleted sections
of the post deceptively to omit sections that might embarass you. Another
Krueger tactic. Quite predictable.



Bruce J. Richman

[MINe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> Marc Phillips said:
>
> > The way Lionel came in here and picked sides so quickly suggests that this
> > is
> > not his first incarnation on RAO, though.
>
> I think you're right, although I can't identify the puppetmaster if
> there is one. Some years ago another froggie weighed in to tell us that
> Krooger's pooping on Usenet was very valuable in spite of the huge
> percentage of lies and the rest of the Beast's "debating trade" shtick.
> But that earlier one didn't write in comically bad English like Lionella
> does.
>
> I've wondered whether La Salope was just having a game at the Normals'
> expense. Here we have a preposterous character who argues for the sake
> of arguing, apologizes for Krooger, and expresses totally nincompoop
> opinions about non-audio topics. And yet the rest of the group mostly
> keeps rewarding him with arguments, giving serious rebuttals of his
> nonsense and verbal flatulence. But if this were a private joke at our
> expense, why hold to silence so long? That argues in favor of La Salope
> being just what she appears to be -- i.e., a low-wattage bulb with a
> crush on Krooger.

And another in a squadron of "sensitive tanks."

Stephen

[Marc Phillips]

Lionel said:

>Marc Phillips - > - mardi 13
>Avril 2004 22:40 wrote:
>
>> Sander said:
>>
>>>George M. Middius > said:
>>>
>>>>Who then? Nousiane?
>>>
>>>I think Lionel is a genuine French guy, be it not a "typical
>>>European", if ever something like that existed.
>>>The name Nousaine may sound French, but he's an American.
>>>I gazed at my crystal ball and saw the TRVTH, praise the Lord!
>>>
>>> LOt;'s!
>>>
>>>;-)
>>
>> The way Lionel came in here and picked sides so quickly suggests that this
>> is not his first incarnation on RAO, though.
>
>
>Boon-Boon and his theories of machination...
>Boon-Boon, it's impossible to find a guy more grotesque than you.

You are more grotesque than me. I cannot imagine what would fuel you to remain
here, other than an utter lack of character or dignity. You lie blantantly and
proudly. When caught, you dance like a chicken and pretend to be charming,
when you are actually sickening.

There's
>surely a place for you at musée Grevin :
>http://www.grevin.com/index2.htm

No one cares. Maybe this will be another hot summer, no? Maybe you will
expire like the fragile little French flower that you are, yes?

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

Marc Phillips wrote:

> You are more grotesque than me.

That's quite a claim!

I can't think anybody in recent memory has tried to profit more from dead
boys and pedophile fantasies than Marc Phillips. How grotesque is that?

> I cannot imagine what would fuel you
> to remain here, other than an utter lack of character or dignity.

It seems like that if left to his own whims, Marc would be the only one who
posted on RAO. He's ruined the place to the point where he's almost gotten
his wish!

> You lie blantantly and proudly.

Since when has that been a problem for you Marc, when it's you that's doing
the lying?

> When caught, you dance like a chicken and pretend to be charming, when
you are actually sickening.

If introspection were money Phillips, you wouldn't even be able to afford to
go to a library.

[Sander deWaal]

(Bruce J. Richman) said:

>Thanks for admitting that you worship Mullards!

Claim to mind-reading noted.

>(I use CV4004's in both my preamplifier and DAC, personally)

Yep, aren't they the nicest thing around?
I'm now working on a preamp based on Philips' ECC40, a rimlock tube.
I've had very good results so far as a phase splitter, I'm now trying
to determine whether it is silent enough for a phono stage.

If this works out OK, I'll post a schematic on my homepage.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

[Marc Phillips]

Lionel said:

>Marc Phillips - > - mercredi 14
>Avril 2004 15:15 wrote:
>
>> ...like the fragile little French flower that you are?
>
>Many thanks Marc but I am not sensible to this kind of compliment.
>You should try the fragile "petite fleur" with George Middius. ;o)
>
>LOL !

He is not French and wimpy like you, though.

Boon

[Sander deWaal]

Lionel > said:

>> If this works out OK, I'll post a schematic on my homepage.

>Are you posting on DIYAudio ?

No, is that a newsgroup or forum?
If so, do you have an entry for me? Sounds interesting!
I post in rec.audio.tubes sometimes, but it isn't allowed to post
binaries there.
There is something called ABSE, alt.binaries. schematics.electronics,
but I don't know if I can post there from this newsclient.

I'm planning on starting a site with tube schematics, but first I must
learn how to use HTML properly :-)
I'm a bit of a digital dyslexic.............

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy