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PanHandler
June 9th 06, 04:13 PM
When the unit is changing CD tracks there is a low level, fairly low
frequency 'blubbering' sound from all speakers. This is the only time I hear
it, and it's quiet enough that it's not objectionable. Could it be the
stepping motor is poorly filtered or something like that? Not discernable
during quiet passages in music.
TIA

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Tony F
June 9th 06, 05:02 PM
Check to make sure the unit is properly grounded, and if need be, re-ground
it.

Tony


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PanHandler
June 9th 06, 05:08 PM
"Tony F" > wrote in message
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> Check to make sure the unit is properly grounded, and if need be,
> re-ground it.

Thanks Tony.

MOSFET
June 9th 06, 07:09 PM
Are you using an amplifier?

I actually had some problems with my current system that sound very similar
to yours. Every time I changed tracks, I heard this loud thump from my
subwoofers. It turned out it was actually a phasing issue (I had combined
the left and right channel of the subwoofer outputs) and this was causing
the problems. I was able to fix it by wiring my sub amp differently (and
adjusting a switch on my SS Ref. 700). If you are using an amplifier, it
might (and I do mean MIGHT) have something to do with that.

If you are not using an amp, then Tony's suggestion of checking grounds
would be the first place to start.

Also, does this happen in all speakers?

MOSFET



"PanHandler" > wrote in message
. ..
> When the unit is changing CD tracks there is a low level, fairly low
> frequency 'blubbering' sound from all speakers. This is the only time I
> hear
> it, and it's quiet enough that it's not objectionable. Could it be the
> stepping motor is poorly filtered or something like that? Not discernable
> during quiet passages in music.
> TIA
>
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> Easy's getting harder everyday
>

PanHandler
June 9th 06, 09:35 PM
"MOSFET" > wrote in message
m...
> Are you using an amplifier?
>
> I actually had some problems with my current system that sound very
> similar to yours. Every time I changed tracks, I heard this loud thump
> from my subwoofers. It turned out it was actually a phasing issue (I had
> combined the left and right channel of the subwoofer outputs) and this was
> causing the problems. I was able to fix it by wiring my sub amp
> differently (and adjusting a switch on my SS Ref. 700). If you are using
> an amplifier, it might (and I do mean MIGHT) have something to do with
> that.
>
> If you are not using an amp, then Tony's suggestion of checking grounds
> would be the first place to start.
>
> Also, does this happen in all speakers?

Yeah. I've gotten advice to add ferrite cores to the signal cords, and an
electrolytic to the 35 Amp 12 Volt power supply leads. This is the setup:
http://flickr.com/photos/43996336@N00/?saved=1 It's a 'portable' sound
system. One of the pics will show a close-up of the power supply.

MOSFET
June 10th 06, 03:57 AM
> Yeah. I've gotten advice to add ferrite cores to the signal cords, and an
> electrolytic to the 35 Amp 12 Volt power supply leads. This is the setup:
> http://flickr.com/photos/43996336@N00/?saved=1 It's a 'portable' sound
> system. One of the pics will show a close-up of the power supply.
>
>
WOW!! That's quite a set-up you've got going. It looks like you have a lot
of fun with it as well!! Very cool!

I'm not sure why adding ferrite cores to the signal cords would do any good.
This is a tactic more frequently employed to deal with some type of induced
noise like alternator whine or some other kind of "hum". That does not
sound like your problem as it happens only when changing tracks, correct?

As far as adding a large electrolytic capacitor to your power supply, those
are typically added to the power supply in cars to help stabilize the
voltage when the demands of the system exceed the available current. This
is very useful because music (in particular, Rock music) produces transient
demands for power. In other words, when the bass drum hits, this demands
more power than other times. Therefore, a capacitor can charge between bass
drum hits, and release current when the drum hits. This is not a bad idea
in your situation (this may add more "Oomph" to your system if your power
supply is limited to 35 amps). But again, this DOES NOT sound like the
source of your problem, though it may be a good idea for other reasons.

If your system is connected to an amplifier, the first thing I would do is
see if it happens when the amplifier is connected or not. Try connecting a
speaker directly to your HU and see if this noise occurs that way. If not,
then it is something to do with the interaction of your HU and amp. If the
noise is still present, then I would continue trying to focus on a grounding
problem.

MOSFET

PanHandler
June 10th 06, 04:08 AM
"MOSFET" > wrote in message
m...

> WOW!! That's quite a set-up you've got going. It looks like you have a
> lot of fun with it as well!! Very cool!

Thanks. It's going out on it's first party at a club tomorrow night.

> I'm not sure why adding ferrite cores to the signal cords would do any
> good. This is a tactic more frequently employed to deal with some type of
> induced noise like alternator whine or some other kind of "hum". That
> does not sound like your problem as it happens only when changing tracks,
> correct?

Yup, and it's not affected by the volume control either. Not heard with the
radio.

> As far as adding a large electrolytic capacitor to your power supply,
> those are typically added to the power supply in cars to help stabilize
> the voltage when the demands of the system exceed the available current.
> This is very useful because music (in particular, Rock music) produces
> transient demands for power. In other words, when the bass drum hits,
> this demands more power than other times. Therefore, a capacitor can
> charge between bass drum hits, and release current when the drum hits.
> This is not a bad idea in your situation (this may add more "Oomph" to
> your system if your power supply is limited to 35 amps). But again, this
> DOES NOT sound like the source of your problem, though it may be a good
> idea for other reasons.
>
> If your system is connected to an amplifier, the first thing I would do is
> see if it happens when the amplifier is connected or not. Try connecting
> a speaker directly to your HU and see if this noise occurs that way. If
> not, then it is something to do with the interaction of your HU and amp.
> If the noise is still present, then I would continue trying to focus on a
> grounding problem.

It is connected to an amp. I'm only using the HU to play mp3's off my
laptop/external HD, and CD's. No speakers connected to the HU, but I'll give
that a shot tomorrow.