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CCSman
February 13th 04, 02:49 AM
What's a Troika cartridge worth these days, assuming it's in as good a shape as
any 10+ year old cartridge can be in-

TIA!

Marc Phillips
February 13th 04, 04:09 AM
CCSman said:

>What's a Troika cartridge worth these days, assuming it's in as good a shape
>as
>any 10+ year old cartridge can be in-
>
>TIA!

Probably not a lot, since cartridges don't have the same type of life
expectancy that other components do. It's not related to use, but to time, and
ten years is a long time for a cartridge.

Boon

S888Wheel
February 13th 04, 07:22 AM
>
>Probably not a lot, since cartridges don't have the same type of life
>expectancy that other components do. It's not related to use, but to time,
>and
>ten years is a long time for a cartridge.

I suppose it depends on how it is stored. I would think if it were vacuum
sealed in plastic and kept in the dark it would be as good as new.

Marc Phillips
February 13th 04, 10:45 PM
S888Wheel said:

>>
>>Probably not a lot, since cartridges don't have the same type of life
>>expectancy that other components do. It's not related to use, but to time,
>>and
>>ten years is a long time for a cartridge.
>
>I suppose it depends on how it is stored. I would think if it were vacuum
>sealed in plastic and kept in the dark it would be as good as new.

Well, suspensions do dry out and crack over time, especially if the cartridge
has been stored unused over long periods of time. The cartridge would probably
be in better shape if it was used at least occasionally.

A high-end cartridge like the Troika, however, would be a perfect candidate for
the restoration services offered by A.J. van den Hul, through Stanalog Imports.
I'm not saying this particular Troika is worthless and should be thrown away,
in other words, but its age definitely takes a massive chunk out of its resale
value.

Boon

S888Wheel
February 14th 04, 05:23 AM
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>S888Wheel said:
>
>>>
>>>Probably not a lot, since cartridges don't have the same type of life
>>>expectancy that other components do. It's not related to use, but to time,
>>>and
>>>ten years is a long time for a cartridge.
>>
>>I suppose it depends on how it is stored. I would think if it were vacuum
>>sealed in plastic and kept in the dark it would be as good as new.
>
>Well, suspensions do dry out and crack over time, especially if the cartridge
>has been stored unused over long periods of time. The cartridge would
>probably
>be in better shape if it was used at least occasionally.
>
>A high-end cartridge like the Troika, however, would be a perfect candidate
>for
>the restoration services offered by A.J. van den Hul, through Stanalog
>Imports.
> I'm not saying this particular Troika is worthless and should be thrown
>away,
>in other words, but its age definitely takes a massive chunk out of its
>resale
>value.
>
>Boon
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>
>
>
>
>
I understood what you were saying and agreed with it. But I think the aging of
the suspension is pretty much due to exposure to the air and to UV light.

Marc Phillips
February 15th 04, 01:49 AM
S888Wheel said:

>>
>>S888Wheel said:
>>
>>>>
>>>>Probably not a lot, since cartridges don't have the same type of life
>>>>expectancy that other components do. It's not related to use, but to
>time,
>>>>and
>>>>ten years is a long time for a cartridge.
>>>
>>>I suppose it depends on how it is stored. I would think if it were vacuum
>>>sealed in plastic and kept in the dark it would be as good as new.
>>
>>Well, suspensions do dry out and crack over time, especially if the
>cartridge
>>has been stored unused over long periods of time. The cartridge would
>>probably
>>be in better shape if it was used at least occasionally.
>>
>>A high-end cartridge like the Troika, however, would be a perfect candidate
>>for
>>the restoration services offered by A.J. van den Hul, through Stanalog
>>Imports.
>> I'm not saying this particular Troika is worthless and should be thrown
>>away,
>>in other words, but its age definitely takes a massive chunk out of its
>>resale
>>value.
>>
>>Boon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>I understood what you were saying and agreed with it. But I think the aging
>of
>the suspension is pretty much due to exposure to the air and to UV light.

That's interesting, the part about the UV light. I hadn't thought about that.
I was thinking in terms of the flexibility of the system and loss of motion due
to inactivity. I had a '97 VW GTI up until a couple of years ago, and I turned
it in when the lease was up because I never got to drive it enough. Of course
there was the usual challenge of keeping the battery charged, but the biggest
probelm seemed to be keeping the front end suspension properly lubed...it would
dry out completely if not driven regularly. I thought cartridge suspensions
pretty much do the same thing.

Another problem with older cartridges, especially ones with plastic bodies, is
that tiny cracks can develop over time, too. That's another advantage you and
I have with our wooden-bodied cartridges.

Boon