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WipeOut
March 27th 06, 05:21 PM
Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and
water that moves through the inner door?

I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar to
gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..

Thanks..

Doug Kanter
March 27th 06, 05:33 PM
"WipeOut" > wrote in message
...
> Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and water
> that moves through the inner door?
>
> I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar to
> gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..
>
> Thanks..

Most of the water to worry about will come from above. Not much you can do
about water vapor, although your gore-tex idea is an interesting one.
Might've been Honda, who, 20+ years ago, had plastic shells over the backs
of their door speakers - I don't recall. But, it was a great idea. When I
was doing installations, we sometimes made things like that out of
Rubbermaid storage containers. Obviously, finding something just the right
size was totally a matter of luck.

I Love Edsels
March 27th 06, 06:01 PM
I have some of those foam baskets from Crutchfield, cut in half.
Works like an umbrella, sort of. The speakers are not very expensive
so if they ever do get damaged it's not the end of the world.


On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:33:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> wrote:

>
>"WipeOut" > wrote in message
...
>> Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and water
>> that moves through the inner door?
>>
>> I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar to
>> gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..
>>
>> Thanks..
>
>Most of the water to worry about will come from above. Not much you can do
>about water vapor, although your gore-tex idea is an interesting one.
>Might've been Honda, who, 20+ years ago, had plastic shells over the backs
>of their door speakers - I don't recall. But, it was a great idea. When I
>was doing installations, we sometimes made things like that out of
>Rubbermaid storage containers. Obviously, finding something just the right
>size was totally a matter of luck.
>

GregS
March 27th 06, 06:03 PM
In article >, WipeOut > wrote:
>Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and
>water that moves through the inner door?
>
>I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar to
>gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..
>

Tyvek. Rip some off a new house.

Whats the matter with the foam backcovers. I get large enough ones and
almost fully stuff them with more foam to muffle the back chamber.
You have to do this regardless, since putting a speaker in a hollow
chanber, sounds like a speaker in a hollow chamber.

greg

MOSFET
March 27th 06, 06:55 PM
Well, there are some manufacturers that take this into consideration. For
instance, MB Quart's Reference Premium line uses a composite basket (not
steel) and gold plated connections. I had been using these woofers in my
doors for years and, of course, there was ABSOLUTELY no sign of water
damage.

Perhaps painting the frames of your woofers with a rust-proof type paint
might help ("Rustolium"). Just a thought.

MOSFET

"WipeOut" > wrote in message
...
> Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and water
> that moves through the inner door?
>
> I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar to
> gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..
>
> Thanks..

GregS
March 27th 06, 08:23 PM
In article >, "MOSFET" > wrote:
>Well, there are some manufacturers that take this into consideration. For
>instance, MB Quart's Reference Premium line uses a composite basket (not
>steel) and gold plated connections. I had been using these woofers in my
>doors for years and, of course, there was ABSOLUTELY no sign of water
>damage.
>

There may be little water seeping in depending on the window
seal.After a good rain, take the door off or just look inside.
A new vehicle should have little if any water.
I think most drivers use a spyder near the voice coil. Water
could seep into it if its not repellant. I have seen voice
coils frozen from corrosion. This can happen just from humidity alone.
If you are using horrid crimped connections. Dampness
will always make them eventually go bad. I usually
solder all mine.

greg


>Perhaps painting the frames of your woofers with a rust-proof type paint
>might help ("Rustolium"). Just a thought.
>
>MOSFET
>
>"WipeOut" > wrote in message
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>> Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and water
>> that moves through the inner door?
>>
>> I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar to
>> gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..
>>
>> Thanks..
>
>

Austin Becker
March 27th 06, 08:46 PM
Let me assure you that gortex is NOT waterproof. It is VERY water
resistant, but I wear the stuff ALL the time (Air Force working the Flight
Line in all weather conditions) and when it rains, water does find it's way
through gortex!

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- AUSTIN BECKER
"WipeOut" > wrote in message
...
> Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and
> water that moves through the inner door?
>
> I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar to
> gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..
>
> Thanks..

Austin Becker
March 28th 06, 01:53 AM
Well, you said "gortex" and the ones I wear are made by gortex themselves.
They are very helpful in short downpours, but any extended amount of raining
on them and they will soak through eventually.

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- AUSTIN BECKER
"Doug Kanter" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe through the stitching? I've been wearing an LL Bean Maine Warden
> winter parka for 6 years. Nothing gets through it. Ever.
>
> "Austin Becker" > wrote in message
> news:GiXVf.850762$x96.316437@attbi_s72...
> > Let me assure you that gortex is NOT waterproof. It is VERY water
> > resistant, but I wear the stuff ALL the time (Air Force working the
Flight
> > Line in all weather conditions) and when it rains, water does find it's
> > way
> > through gortex!
> >
> > --
> > - AUSTIN BECKER
> > "WipeOut" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and
> >> water that moves through the inner door?
> >>
> >> I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar
to
> >> gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the group..
> >>
> >> Thanks..
> >
> >
>
>

nanook
March 28th 06, 04:31 AM
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:46:46 GMT, "Austin Becker"
> wrote:

>Let me assure you that gortex is NOT waterproof. It is VERY water
>resistant, but I wear the stuff ALL the time (Air Force working the Flight
>Line in all weather conditions) and when it rains, water does find it's way
>through gortex!


Air Force? Thanks for your service to our country.

Doug Kanter
March 28th 06, 06:36 AM
It's got to be how the garments were sewn, then. The fabric itself does what
it says. This is probably why some catalogs mention the kind of stitching,
as if I would actually understand. :)

"Austin Becker" > wrote in message
news:jO%Vf.888464$xm3.725970@attbi_s21...
> Well, you said "gortex" and the ones I wear are made by gortex themselves.
> They are very helpful in short downpours, but any extended amount of
> raining
> on them and they will soak through eventually.
>
> --
> - AUSTIN BECKER
> "Doug Kanter" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Maybe through the stitching? I've been wearing an LL Bean Maine Warden
>> winter parka for 6 years. Nothing gets through it. Ever.
>>
>> "Austin Becker" > wrote in message
>> news:GiXVf.850762$x96.316437@attbi_s72...
>> > Let me assure you that gortex is NOT waterproof. It is VERY water
>> > resistant, but I wear the stuff ALL the time (Air Force working the
> Flight
>> > Line in all weather conditions) and when it rains, water does find it's
>> > way
>> > through gortex!
>> >
>> > --
>> > - AUSTIN BECKER
>> > "WipeOut" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Whats the best way to protect the door speakers for the moisture and
>> >> water that moves through the inner door?
>> >>
>> >> I have hear of using waterproof breathable materials (I guess similar
> to
>> >> gortex) but thought I would get the opinions of everyone in the
>> >> group..
>> >>
>> >> Thanks..
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Austin Becker
March 28th 06, 02:23 PM
Not a problem! You all are worth it............... yes.... even bobby boy

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- AUSTIN BECKER
"nanook" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:46:46 GMT, "Austin Becker"
> > wrote:
>
> >Let me assure you that gortex is NOT waterproof. It is VERY water
> >resistant, but I wear the stuff ALL the time (Air Force working the
Flight
> >Line in all weather conditions) and when it rains, water does find it's
way
> >through gortex!
>
>
> Air Force? Thanks for your service to our country.
>

Bruce Musgrove
March 29th 06, 04:15 AM
Air Force? Even though I am a newbie, I can't let a flyboy, champagne club
wannabee get by that easy! ;)



Anchor's Aweigh My Boy

http://www.atule.com/Sea%20Stories/the_head.htm


Bruce (air force Brat, Submariner by Choice!) SSBN 654
Happiness is 500 ft in force 12.

The Final Patrol
Lord, this departed shipmate with dolphins on his chest is part of an outfit
known as the best.

Make him welcome and take him by the hand. You'll find without a doubt he
was the best in all the land.

So, heavenly Father add his name to the roll of our departed shipmates still
on patrol.

Let them know that we who survive will always keep their memories alive.




"Austin Becker" > wrote in message
news:ENaWf.854064$x96.47530@attbi_s72...
> Not a problem! You all are worth it............... yes.... even bobby
> boy
>
> --
> - AUSTIN BECKER
> "nanook" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:46:46 GMT, "Austin Becker"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Let me assure you that gortex is NOT waterproof. It is VERY water
>> >resistant, but I wear the stuff ALL the time (Air Force working the
> Flight
>> >Line in all weather conditions) and when it rains, water does find it's
> way
>> >through gortex!
>>
>>
>> Air Force? Thanks for your service to our country.
>>
>
>

Austin Becker
March 29th 06, 05:07 AM
Oh, is that right eh? This is happiness!!!!
http://mil.longhoo.net/newimg/f15-22.jpg

P.S. The F-15 on the bottom is my squadrons 'Flagship'.

95 Aircraft Maintenance Unit
F-15 Avionics Attack Control Systems, AFSC: 2A351A
Tyndall Air Force Base - Panama City, FL

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- AUSTIN BECKER
"Bruce Musgrove" > wrote in message
...
> Air Force? Even though I am a newbie, I can't let a flyboy, champagne club
> wannabee get by that easy! ;)
>
>
>
> Anchor's Aweigh My Boy
>
> http://www.atule.com/Sea%20Stories/the_head.htm
>
>
> Bruce (air force Brat, Submariner by Choice!) SSBN 654
> Happiness is 500 ft in force 12.
>
> The Final Patrol
> Lord, this departed shipmate with dolphins on his chest is part of an
outfit
> known as the best.
>
> Make him welcome and take him by the hand. You'll find without a doubt he
> was the best in all the land.
>
> So, heavenly Father add his name to the roll of our departed shipmates
still
> on patrol.
>
> Let them know that we who survive will always keep their memories alive.
>
>
>
>
> "Austin Becker" > wrote in message
> news:ENaWf.854064$x96.47530@attbi_s72...
> > Not a problem! You all are worth it............... yes.... even bobby
> > boy
> >
> > --
> > - AUSTIN BECKER
> > "nanook" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:46:46 GMT, "Austin Becker"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Let me assure you that gortex is NOT waterproof. It is VERY water
> >> >resistant, but I wear the stuff ALL the time (Air Force working the
> > Flight
> >> >Line in all weather conditions) and when it rains, water does find
it's
> > way
> >> >through gortex!
> >>
> >>
> >> Air Force? Thanks for your service to our country.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

FasDeth
April 8th 06, 05:21 AM
> this stupid childish post is over.



Bobs new sig ??

FasDeth