Ohm Walsh speakers

Happened to see their new line of speakers at their website and if the new
ones sound as good as the lasty pair I heard, they should still be a good
value.

The last time I heard them they were at a CES show set up in a hotel room,
possibly one of the poorest places to put a hi-fi system, but the sound was
very realistically 3D.. They seem to have improved the response from those
days and now seem only to sell factory direct.

Anybody heard anything from their newer line and if so your impressions.

[Bret Ludwig]

wrote:
> Happened to see their new line of speakers at their website and if the new
> ones sound as good as the lasty pair I heard, they should still be a good
> value.
>
> The last time I heard them they were at a CES show set up in a hotel room,
> possibly one of the poorest places to put a hi-fi system, but the sound was
> very realistically 3D.. They seem to have improved the response from those
> days and now seem only to sell factory direct.
>
> Anybody heard anything from their newer line and if so your impressions.

They were bad then and are probably bad now.

[Clyde Slick]

"Bret Ludwig" > wrote in message
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>
> wrote:
>> Happened to see their new line of speakers at their website and if the
>> new
>> ones sound as good as the lasty pair I heard, they should still be a good
>> value.
>>
>> The last time I heard them they were at a CES show set up in a hotel
>> room,
>> possibly one of the poorest places to put a hi-fi system, but the sound
>> was
>> very realistically 3D.. They seem to have improved the response from
>> those
>> days and now seem only to sell factory direct.
>>
>> Anybody heard anything from their newer line and if so your impressions.
>
> They were bad then and are probably bad now.
>

They were quite horrible in the 80's
though "at least" not as bad as Bose.
Bose had lots of physical holes
but Walsh had lots of frequency holes!

"Bret Ludwig" > wrote in message
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>
> wrote:
>> Happened to see their new line of speakers at their website and if the
>> new
>> ones sound as good as the lasty pair I heard, they should still be a good
>> value.
>>
>> The last time I heard them they were at a CES show set up in a hotel
>> room,
>> possibly one of the poorest places to put a hi-fi system, but the sound
>> was
>> very realistically 3D.. They seem to have improved the response from
>> those
>> days and now seem only to sell factory direct.
>>
>> Anybody heard anything from their newer line and if so your impressions.
>
> They were bad then and are probably bad now.
>
As if you would know.

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
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>
> "Bret Ludwig" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>
>> wrote:
>>> Happened to see their new line of speakers at their website and if the
>>> new
>>> ones sound as good as the lasty pair I heard, they should still be a
>>> good
>>> value.
>>>
>>> The last time I heard them they were at a CES show set up in a hotel
>>> room,
>>> possibly one of the poorest places to put a hi-fi system, but the sound
>>> was
>>> very realistically 3D.. They seem to have improved the response from
>>> those
>>> days and now seem only to sell factory direct.
>>>
>>> Anybody heard anything from their newer line and if so your impressions.
>>
>> They were bad then and are probably bad now.
>>
>
> They were quite horrible in the 80's
> though "at least" not as bad as Bose.
> Bose had lots of physical holes
> but Walsh had lots of frequency holes!
>
It's not the 80's anynore, or even the 30's but you still have antique
technology.

I saw and heard the Ohm F at CES and it was easliy the most impressive
speaker system there, even with a frequency cutoof on the top end of 17 kHz.

Simialr effect to Bose but vastly better in terms of overall spaciousness
and a much tighter sound.

Current models include a tweeter that covers the rest of the high frequency
range.
Unfortunately they are apparently only available factory direct so there's
no place I know of to hear them before purchase, although they do allow a
120 day in house approval period.

[Clyde Slick]

> wrote in message
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>>
> It's not the 80's anynore, or even the 30's but you still have antique
> technology.


I don't have any. In the 80's they sucked.

[Arny Krueger]

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> Happened to see their new line of speakers at their
> website and if the new ones sound as good as the last
> pair I heard, they should still be a good value.

Speaking as an ex-Ohm F owner, historically the Walsh
technology has been greviously flawed.

The composite metal cone of the Ohm A & F rang like a bell.
The so-called termination at the bottom of the cone was more
of a reflector than a terminator. The cone was very heavy
which made the speaker very inefficient. However, the voice
coil had to perform as the voice coil of a tweeter. That
meant that dynamic range was very limited and voice coil
burnout was a constant threat. In order to make the voice
coil light, they had to sacrifice Xmax, big time. As soon as
you drove them in the bass range, there was a ton of
intermodulation.

The second generation Ohm speakers were a travesty because
they sacrificed most of the unique potential benefits of the
the first generation speakers in order to address some of
the problems I listed above.

There were or are some German Walsh driver speakers, but
from what I could see they shared a lot of problems with the
first generation Walshes, described above.

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
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> > wrote in message
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>> Happened to see their new line of speakers at their
>> website and if the new ones sound as good as the last
>> pair I heard, they should still be a good value.
>
> Speaking as an ex-Ohm F owner, historically the Walsh technology has been
> greviously flawed.
>
> The composite metal cone of the Ohm A & F rang like a bell. The so-called
> termination at the bottom of the cone was more of a reflector than a
> terminator. The cone was very heavy which made the speaker very
> inefficient. However, the voice coil had to perform as the voice coil of a
> tweeter. That meant that dynamic range was very limited and voice coil
> burnout was a constant threat. In order to make the voice coil light, they
> had to sacrifice Xmax, big time. As soon as you drove them in the bass
> range, there was a ton of intermodulation.
>
> The second generation Ohm speakers were a travesty because they sacrificed
> most of the unique potential benefits of the the first generation speakers
> in order to address some of the problems I listed above.
>
> There were or are some German Walsh driver speakers, but from what I could
> see they shared a lot of problems with the first generation Walshes,
> described above.
>
>
>
They seem to be aware of the problems without actually saying so. They
offer upgrades of all their old speakers and the new ones have a tweeter
now. On paper they seem pretty good, and I liked the way they set up a big
soundstage. Still would like to see tests on the new line to see how they
may have improved.

Perhaps I should take it as a hint that there are no reviews from any of the
bigger, well known magazines.

[EddieM]

> Arny Krueger wrote
>> nyob123 wrote
>
>
>
>
>
>> Happened to see their new line of speakers at their
>> website and if the new ones sound as good as the last
>> pair I heard


> Speaking as an ex-Ohm F owner, historically




Does it bother any of you to take the words of those so delusionally
infatuated with such audio testing like the so called blind abx/dbt
experiment (as an example) and yet, when they're ask to describe
simple matters pertaining to the said exercise, said individuals
horribly run away choking their chicken and rubbing their nuts
like baboons furiously sodomized in their heavenly trance.

[Bret Ludwig]

wrote:
<<snip>>
>
> Perhaps I should take it as a hint that there are no reviews from any of the
> bigger, well known magazines.

You mean Stereophile?

"Bret Ludwig" > wrote in message
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> wrote:
> <<snip>>
>>
>> Perhaps I should take it as a hint that there are no reviews from any of
>> the
>> bigger, well known magazines.
>
> You mean Stereophile?
>
When is the last time they reviewed an Ohm speaker?