A laundry-list of why DBTs are used

[Steven Sullivan]

just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --


http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html




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fundamentalists." -- Ginger Yellow

[Robert Morein]

"Steven Sullivan" > wrote in message
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> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>
It is true that sighted comparisons can induce biases, although those of us
who try to be ruthlessly unbiased can minimize them. Unfortunately, while
ABX might appear to be an acceptable replacement for sighted testing, it has
been conclusively shown that it tends to reduce perceptual acuity.

Perhaps, in the future, double blind testing for audio equipment will be
refined to produce the same acuity as sighted testing. The problems appear
to be with fatal flaws in the specific procedures used, not the general
concept of blind testing.

Until that day, sighted testing will continue to rule in the audiophile
community, regardless of what the clueless, brain and ear damaged contingent
of borgs want to say.

Sighted testing Rules!

[Clyde Slick]

"Steven Sullivan" > wrote in message
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> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>
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> http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
>

They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.

[George M. Middius]

Clyde Slick said:

> They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
> Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.

I think Silly just wants us to toss a dollar into the collection plate.

[Louis Tsechmeister]

Clyde Slick schrieb:

> "Steven Sullivan" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
> > are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
> >
> >
> > http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
> >
>
> They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
> Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.

You never were a fussy fresser when schmosing for a free meal. How was
the free toikey dinner this year, schnorrer?

[Robert Morein]

"Louis Tsechmeister" > wrote in message
oups.com...
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> Clyde Slick schrieb:
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>> "Steven Sullivan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
>> > are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>> >
>> >
>> > http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
>> >
>>
>> They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
>> Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.
>
> You never were a fussy fresser when schmosing for a free meal. How was
> the free toikey dinner this year, schnorrer?
>
*** AMTLICHES WARNING ***, das dieses ist, unlicensed Yiddish, in gewissem
Sinne genehmigt nicht vom Rat der pensionierten jüdischen Taxi-Treiber.
Offenbar ist dieses die Arbeit des Teufels!

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
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> "Steven Sullivan" > wrote in message
> ...
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>> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
>> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>>
>>
>> http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
>>
>
> They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
> Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.
>
So what? How does that make them invalid for doing so?
Just because something isn't done, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, or
can't be done.

[Robert Morein]

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> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
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>> "Steven Sullivan" > wrote in message
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>>> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
>>> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>>>
>>>
>>> http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
>>>
>>
>> They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
>> Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.
>>
> So what? How does that make them invalid for doing so?
> Just because something isn't done, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, or
> can't be done.
They are not used because they do not work. DBT=NFG.

[Clyde Slick]

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> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
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>> "Steven Sullivan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
>>> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>>>
>>>
>>> http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
>>>
>>
>> They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
>> Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.
>>
> So what? How does that make them invalid for doing so?
> Just because something isn't done, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, or
> can't be done.
>
Have you tried ladybugs dipped in white chocolate?

[Clyde Slick]

"George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote
in message ...
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>
> Clyde Slick said:
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>> They are NOT used for consumer purchasing choices
>> Not in audio, nor for purchasing any other consumer item.
>
> I think Silly just wants us to toss a dollar into the collection plate.
>

For more bird feed?

[[email protected]]

Steven Sullivan wrote:
> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>
>
> http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
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The latest version of the ABX chapel's incantation. " Our beloved Abx
has come on hard times. It is getting to be common knowledge that it
has not been validated by basic research and that it appears to
obliterate rather than uncover the differences between audio components
performing music. What do we do now? Let's smuggle it back in in
camouflage- let's pretend it is just DBT- what could be more
respectable?."
Or are they really giving up the indefensible? Reality knocking at the
door at last?
Ludovic Mirabel .
>
>

> wrote in message
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> Steven Sullivan wrote:
>> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
>> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>>
>>
>> http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
>> ---------------------------------------
> The latest version of the ABX chapel's incantation. " Our beloved Abx
> has come on hard times. It is getting to be common knowledge that it
> has not been validated by basic research and that it appears to
> obliterate rather than uncover the differences between audio components
> performing music.

No matter how may times you say it, it will never be true. ABX is one of
the most revealing ways of finding subtle differences.

What do we do now? Let's smuggle it back in in
> camouflage- let's pretend it is just DBT- what could be more
> respectable?."

It is a DBT protocol, one that is widely used and is never going away.

> Or are they really giving up the indefensible? Reality knocking at the
> door at last?
> Ludovic Mirabel .
>>
That knocking is just the sound of your hollow head.

[Robert Morein]

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>> Steven Sullivan wrote:
>>> just a reminder to those prone to 'forget' -- or who
>>> are just plain ignorant of them in the first place --
>>>
>>>
>>> http://skepdic.com/hiddenpersuaders.html
>>> ---------------------------------------
>> The latest version of the ABX chapel's incantation. " Our beloved Abx
>> has come on hard times. It is getting to be common knowledge that it
>> has not been validated by basic research and that it appears to
>> obliterate rather than uncover the differences between audio components
>> performing music.
>
> No matter how may times you say it, it will never be true. ABX is one of
> the most revealing ways of finding subtle differences.
Lie.
A tale told by an idiot, all sound and fury, signifying nothing.
It certainly reveals that you are the Village Idiot, Mikey McKelviphibian.
Audiophiles do not use it, have no interest in it, and it is doubtful that
we ever will.




> What do we do now? Let's smuggle it back in in
>> camouflage- let's pretend it is just DBT- what could be more
>> respectable?."
>
> It is a DBT protocol, one that is widely used and is never going away.
>
>> Or are they really giving up the indefensible? Reality knocking at the
>> door at last?
>> Ludovic Mirabel .
>>>
> That knocking is just the sound of your hollow head.
Mikey, you ARE rao's dope. There is no one on this group less intelligent
than you.