View Full Version : Ortofon Tonearms Help Needed
Lukas
October 30th 03, 10:38 PM
I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They
don't produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't
even have any info about them neither spare parts for them.
I have one and it needs some restoration so any help in identyfiing
the model as well as obtaining spares would be highly appreciated.
I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
trade just drop me a line.
Thanks
Lukas
Pooh Bear
October 31st 03, 01:34 AM
Lukas wrote:
> I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They don't
> produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't even have
> any info about them neither spare parts for them.
>
> I have one and it needs some restoration
Mine too - lol. The 12" beast. RMG 309 ? Came out of 'Star Sound
Studios' London. The AS 212 was a nice arm. Wish I had bought one.
> so any help in identyfiing the model as well as obtaining spares would
> be highly appreciated.
>
> I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
> trade just drop me a line.
You collect antique gear ?
Graham
Geoley
October 31st 03, 06:01 PM
"Pooh Bear" > wrote in message
...
> Lukas wrote:
>
> > I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They don't
> > produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't even have
> > any info about them neither spare parts for them.
> >
> > I have one and it needs some restoration
>
> Mine too - lol. The 12" beast. RMG 309 ? Came out of 'Star Sound
> Studios' London. The AS 212 was a nice arm. Wish I had bought one.
>
> > so any help in identyfiing the model as well as obtaining spares would
> > be highly appreciated.
> >
> > I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
> > trade just drop me a line.
>
> You collect antique gear ?
>
>
> Graham
>
I have a Thorens 125 with a Ortofon RS-212 arm fitted with Shure Type V-15
cartridge that tracks at 1 to 1.5 grams with no problems.For more info on
Ortofon arms check out the Vinyl Asylum forum.
Geoley
Lukas
October 31st 03, 11:00 PM
Pooh Bear > wrote in message >...
> Lukas wrote:
>
> > I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They don't
> > produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't even have
> > any info about them neither spare parts for them.
> >
> > I have one and it needs some restoration
>
> Mine too - lol. The 12" beast. RMG 309 ? Came out of 'Star Sound
> Studios' London. The AS 212 was a nice arm. Wish I had bought one.
>
> > so any help in identyfiing the model as well as obtaining spares would
> > be highly appreciated.
> >
> > I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
> > trade just drop me a line.
>
> You collect antique gear ?
Not exactly. I am interested in proffesional range of turntables,
cartridges, tonearms and other vinyl playback related items. But
rather for using those items than collecting them. I simply like to
hear them play.
I mentioned wire recorder as it is needed to transfer some old
recordings (or maybe finding only that they are gone) to more modern
media like CD.
Lukas
Scott Dorsey
November 1st 03, 03:42 AM
Lukas > wrote:
>
>I mentioned wire recorder as it is needed to transfer some old
>recordings (or maybe finding only that they are gone) to more modern
>media like CD.
The problem is that there is no one wire recorder standard...they all
had different speeds, speed rate changes, diameters and levels. So if
you have a Minifon wire you can't play it back on a Webster Chicago
machine. You need to know what it was made on.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Lukas
November 1st 03, 04:54 PM
You may find pictures at:
http://republika.pl/tonearm
Lukas
Sander deWaal
November 1st 03, 04:56 PM
(Lukas) said:
>I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They
>don't produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't
>even have any info about them neither spare parts for them.
>
>I have one and it needs some restoration so any help in identyfiing
>the model as well as obtaining spares would be highly appreciated.
If you can send me a picture of it, I might be able to identify it and
get some spare parts for you.
As I'm located in the Netherlands, it's still relatively easy to get
parts overhere.
If yours is an Orthophon 212, I might have some spare parts lying
around
>I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
>trade just drop me a line.
On our local Internet marketplaces, every now and then a wire recorder
is advertised.
Going prices are from some Euro 200 to infinity.
Count in some shipping to your country, which is Poland if I'm not
mistaking?
If you like, I can try to get hold of one here.
Remember that most gear selling here is 220V/50 Hz, so you'll probably
need a transformer and, in some instances, when an asyncrhonous motor
is used, a frequency convertor annex AC power amplifier to run the
motor if you're on 60 Hz.
Changing motor pulleys doesn't always work since some gear is driven
directly from the motor axle via an interchange wheel, the diameter of
which doesn't have influence on the wire speed.
BTW; I'm off to Germany next week without Usenet and e-mail access, so
don't be offended if it takes till after next week to get an answer
from me.
--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy
Marc Phillips
November 1st 03, 07:20 PM
Sander said:
>If you can send me a picture of it, I might be able to identify it and
>get some spare parts for you.
>As I'm located in the Netherlands, it's still relatively easy to get
>parts overhere.
>If yours is an Orthophon 212, I might have some spare parts lying
>around
>
>>I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
>>trade just drop me a line.
>
>On our local Internet marketplaces, every now and then a wire recorder
>is advertised.
>Going prices are from some Euro 200 to infinity.
>Count in some shipping to your country, which is Poland if I'm not
>mistaking?
>If you like, I can try to get hold of one here.
>Remember that most gear selling here is 220V/50 Hz, so you'll probably
>need a transformer and, in some instances, when an asyncrhonous motor
>is used, a frequency convertor annex AC power amplifier to run the
>motor if you're on 60 Hz.
>Changing motor pulleys doesn't always work since some gear is driven
>directly from the motor axle via an interchange wheel, the diameter of
>which doesn't have influence on the wire speed.
>
>BTW; I'm off to Germany next week without Usenet and e-mail access, so
>don't be offended if it takes till after next week to get an answer
>from me.
I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
Boon
Arny Krueger
November 1st 03, 07:30 PM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> Sander said:
>
>> If you can send me a picture of it, I might be able to identify it
>> and get some spare parts for you.
>> As I'm located in the Netherlands, it's still relatively easy to get
>> parts overhere.
>> If yours is an Orthophon 212, I might have some spare parts lying
>> around
>>
>>> I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
>>> trade just drop me a line.
>>
>> On our local Internet marketplaces, every now and then a wire
>> recorder is advertised.
>> Going prices are from some Euro 200 to infinity.
>> Count in some shipping to your country, which is Poland if I'm not
>> mistaking?
>> If you like, I can try to get hold of one here.
>> Remember that most gear selling here is 220V/50 Hz, so you'll
>> probably need a transformer and, in some instances, when an
>> asyncrhonous motor is used, a frequency convertor annex AC power
>> amplifier to run the motor if you're on 60 Hz.
>> Changing motor pulleys doesn't always work since some gear is driven
>> directly from the motor axle via an interchange wheel, the diameter
>> of which doesn't have influence on the wire speed.
>>
>> BTW; I'm off to Germany next week without Usenet and e-mail access,
>> so don't be offended if it takes till after next week to get an
>> answer from me.
>
> I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
>
> Boon
This from someone who claims to be an expert about vinyl.
LOL!
Marc Phillips
November 1st 03, 07:38 PM
Arny said:
>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> Sander said:
>>
>>> If you can send me a picture of it, I might be able to identify it
>>> and get some spare parts for you.
>>> As I'm located in the Netherlands, it's still relatively easy to get
>>> parts overhere.
>>> If yours is an Orthophon 212, I might have some spare parts lying
>>> around
>>>
>>>> I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
>>>> trade just drop me a line.
>>>
>>> On our local Internet marketplaces, every now and then a wire
>>> recorder is advertised.
>>> Going prices are from some Euro 200 to infinity.
>>> Count in some shipping to your country, which is Poland if I'm not
>>> mistaking?
>>> If you like, I can try to get hold of one here.
>>> Remember that most gear selling here is 220V/50 Hz, so you'll
>>> probably need a transformer and, in some instances, when an
>>> asyncrhonous motor is used, a frequency convertor annex AC power
>>> amplifier to run the motor if you're on 60 Hz.
>>> Changing motor pulleys doesn't always work since some gear is driven
>>> directly from the motor axle via an interchange wheel, the diameter
>>> of which doesn't have influence on the wire speed.
>>>
>>> BTW; I'm off to Germany next week without Usenet and e-mail access,
>>> so don't be offended if it takes till after next week to get an
>>> answer from me.
>>
>> I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
>>
>> Boon
>
>This from someone who claims to be an expert about vinyl.
I have never claimed to be an expert on vinyl.
>
>LOL!
I think it's funny that it would basically kill you to admit that you didn't
know about something audio-related, where I have the guts to ask when I don't
know.
I actually saw this coming from a mile away, and I knew you would comply!
Boon
ScottW
November 1st 03, 07:45 PM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> I think it's funny that it would basically kill you to admit that you
didn't
> know about something audio-related, where I have the guts to ask when I
don't
> know.
>
> I actually saw this coming from a mile away, and I knew you would comply!
>
Apparently you weren't trained as a "general engineer" like Arny.
You know that engineering discipline that either teaches you
very little about everything or everything about nothing.
Arny needs to clarify which.
ScottW
Marc Phillips
November 1st 03, 07:55 PM
ScottW said:
>Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>
>> I think it's funny that it would basically kill you to admit that you
>didn't
>> know about something audio-related, where I have the guts to ask when I
>don't
>> know.
>>
>> I actually saw this coming from a mile away, and I knew you would comply!
>>
>
> Apparently you weren't trained as a "general engineer" like Arny.
>You know that engineering discipline that either teaches you
>very little about everything or everything about nothing.
>Arny needs to clarify which.
That's the nature of the Internet geek. They pretend to know it all, but if
they did, they wouldn't be spending their lives in front of their computer.
Boon
Sander deWaal
November 1st 03, 08:02 PM
(Marc Phillips) said:
>I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
The one I am familiar with, the AS212, was especially heavy.
Excellent to use with Ortofon VMS20 or the heavier MC carts.
The one I once had, was fitted with a Sonus cart, of which I forgot
the typenumber.
The arm wasn't exceptional in quality, if my memory serves me right.
I soon started using the 3009 II arm, which provided better tracking
and damping.
They were made during the '70s and early '80s.
--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy
Marc Phillips
November 1st 03, 08:07 PM
Sander said:
(Marc Phillips) said:
>
>>I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
>
>The one I am familiar with, the AS212, was especially heavy.
>Excellent to use with Ortofon VMS20 or the heavier MC carts.
>The one I once had, was fitted with a Sonus cart, of which I forgot
>the typenumber.
>The arm wasn't exceptional in quality, if my memory serves me right.
>I soon started using the 3009 II arm, which provided better tracking
>and damping.
>They were made during the '70s and early '80s.
Thanks, Sander! My experience with Ortofon is limited to the X5-MC I owned in
the 80s. I really liked that cartridge on my AR ES-1.
Boon
Kalman Rubinson
November 2nd 03, 02:09 AM
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:02:53 +0100, Sander deWaal
> wrote:
(Marc Phillips) said:
>
>>I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
>
>The one I am familiar with, the AS212, was especially heavy.
>Excellent to use with Ortofon VMS20 or the heavier MC carts.
The RM was more modern and finer. Ortofon made a range of arms
over many decades.
kal
Arny Krueger
November 2nd 03, 11:14 AM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> Arny said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>
>>> Sander said:
>>>
>>>> If you can send me a picture of it, I might be able to identify it
>>>> and get some spare parts for you.
>>>> As I'm located in the Netherlands, it's still relatively easy to
>>>> get parts overhere.
>>>> If yours is an Orthophon 212, I might have some spare parts lying
>>>> around
>>>>
>>>>> I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell
>>>>> or trade just drop me a line.
>>>>
>>>> On our local Internet marketplaces, every now and then a wire
>>>> recorder is advertised.
>>>> Going prices are from some Euro 200 to infinity.
>>>> Count in some shipping to your country, which is Poland if I'm not
>>>> mistaking?
>>>> If you like, I can try to get hold of one here.
>>>> Remember that most gear selling here is 220V/50 Hz, so you'll
>>>> probably need a transformer and, in some instances, when an
>>>> asyncrhonous motor is used, a frequency convertor annex AC power
>>>> amplifier to run the motor if you're on 60 Hz.
>>>> Changing motor pulleys doesn't always work since some gear is
>>>> driven directly from the motor axle via an interchange wheel, the
>>>> diameter of which doesn't have influence on the wire speed.
>>>>
>>>> BTW; I'm off to Germany next week without Usenet and e-mail access,
>>>> so don't be offended if it takes till after next week to get an
>>>> answer from me.
>>>
>>> I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any
>>> good?
>>>
>>> Boon
>>
>> This from someone who claims to be an expert about vinyl.
>
> I have never claimed to be an expert on vinyl.
LOL!
>> LOL!
> I think it's funny that it would basically kill you to admit that you
> didn't know about something audio-related, where I have the guts to
> ask when I don't know.
You think I didn't know about Ortofon tone arems?
LOL!
> I actually saw this coming from a mile away, and I knew you would
> comply!
Al you saw coming is your delusion that I didn't know about Ortofon tone
arms, Phillips.
dave weil
November 2nd 03, 05:06 PM
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:14:12 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:
>You think I didn't know about Ortofon tone arems?
I know that *I* thought you didn't know about Ortofon tone arems.
Never would have occured to me in a million years that you did.
Phil Marcips
November 2nd 03, 06:55 PM
a self-appointed "expert" asked:
Boon
Phil Marcips
November 2nd 03, 06:58 PM
a self-appointed "expert" asked:
>> I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
Arny Krueger wrote:
>This from someone who claims to be an expert about vinyl.
>
>LOL!
>
He is an A-1 moron and all around ignoramus. The only thing he knows about
turntables, tonearms and cartridges is what his dealer tell him.
Boon
Marc Phillips
November 2nd 03, 08:10 PM
Richard Malesweski said:
>a self-appointed "expert" asked:
>
>>> I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any good?
>
>Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>>This from someone who claims to be an expert about vinyl.
>>
>>LOL!
>>
>
>He is an A-1 moron and all around ignoramus. The only thing he knows about
>turntables, tonearms and cartridges is what his dealer tell him.
It only took you two tries to get this one out. I guess your still smarting
from the booniebug/vinylanach spasm from yesterday, eh?
LOL!
Boon
Marc Phillips
November 2nd 03, 08:12 PM
Arny said:
>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> Arny said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Sander said:
>>>>
>>>>> If you can send me a picture of it, I might be able to identify it
>>>>> and get some spare parts for you.
>>>>> As I'm located in the Netherlands, it's still relatively easy to
>>>>> get parts overhere.
>>>>> If yours is an Orthophon 212, I might have some spare parts lying
>>>>> around
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell
>>>>>> or trade just drop me a line.
>>>>>
>>>>> On our local Internet marketplaces, every now and then a wire
>>>>> recorder is advertised.
>>>>> Going prices are from some Euro 200 to infinity.
>>>>> Count in some shipping to your country, which is Poland if I'm not
>>>>> mistaking?
>>>>> If you like, I can try to get hold of one here.
>>>>> Remember that most gear selling here is 220V/50 Hz, so you'll
>>>>> probably need a transformer and, in some instances, when an
>>>>> asyncrhonous motor is used, a frequency convertor annex AC power
>>>>> amplifier to run the motor if you're on 60 Hz.
>>>>> Changing motor pulleys doesn't always work since some gear is
>>>>> driven directly from the motor axle via an interchange wheel, the
>>>>> diameter of which doesn't have influence on the wire speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW; I'm off to Germany next week without Usenet and e-mail access,
>>>>> so don't be offended if it takes till after next week to get an
>>>>> answer from me.
>>>>
>>>> I've never even heard of Ortofon tonearms before. Were they any
>>>> good?
>>>>
>>>> Boon
>>>
>>> This from someone who claims to be an expert about vinyl.
>>
>> I have never claimed to be an expert on vinyl.
>
>
>LOL!
>
>>> LOL!
>
>> I think it's funny that it would basically kill you to admit that you
>> didn't know about something audio-related, where I have the guts to
>> ask when I don't know.
>
>You think I didn't know about Ortofon tone arems?
>
>LOL!
>
>> I actually saw this coming from a mile away, and I knew you would
>> comply!
>
>Al you saw coming is your delusion that I didn't know about Ortofon tone
>arms, Phillips.
Show where I said you didn't know about Ortofon tonearms, ****head. And who's
Al?
Boon
Marc Phillips
November 3rd 03, 08:28 PM
I asked:
>>Al you saw coming is your delusion that I didn't know about Ortofon tone
>>arms, Phillips.
>
>Show where I said you didn't know about Ortofon tonearms, ****head. And
>who's
>Al?
Arny replied:
[sound of crickets chirping]
So, ****head, does this mean you've seen your mistake, but, as usual, can't
admit it?
You also said:
>>> I have never claimed to be an expert on vinyl.
>>
>>
>>LOL!
From the Vinyl Anachronist website:
"I'd like to don my expert's cap and say that I've had a long and distinguished
career in LP mastering or music publishing or audio engineering or something
like that, but the truth is that I'm just an ordinary guy, someone like you...
a music lover."
Any other moronic claims you'd like to make, ****head?
Boon
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