So is that it for Jupiter Audio?

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Dogma4e" > wrote in message
...
> http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/search2.pl?seller&Gmsingh&1&3&4&


Production can't keep up with sales.




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[Robert Morein]

"Dogma4e" > wrote in message
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> http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/search2.pl?seller&Gmsingh&1&3&4&

Kaput.
Fini
Finished.
Dead.
Bankrupt.
Collapsed.
Chapter 11.
Dissolved.
Liquidated.
Zeroed out.
Closed doors.
Turned off the lights.
Laid off.
Out of business.
Never in business.
Gone fishing (lie.)
Hiding under bed (truth).

[Dogma4e]

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/search2.pl?seller&Gmsingh&1&3&4&

[trotsky]

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
> "Dogma4e" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/search2.pl?seller&Gmsingh&1&3&4&
>
>
>
> Production can't keep up with sales.


Unlike your anus.

[Robert Morein]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
> > "Dogma4e" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/search2.pl?seller&Gmsingh&1&3&4&
> >
> >
> >
> > Production can't keep up with sales.
>
>
> Unlike your anus.
>
Greg, it's over.
Give up.
Have a good cry, then a nervous breakdown, and simply accept the fact that
your life is going to get worse, not better.

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you simply have to face up to
the fact that your future is dark.

[trotsky]

Robert Morein wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>>Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
>>
>>>"Dogma4e" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/search2.pl?seller&Gmsingh&1&3&4&
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Production can't keep up with sales.
>>
>>
>>Unlike your anus.
>>
>
> Greg, it's over.
> Give up.
> Have a good cry, then a nervous breakdown, and simply accept the fact that
> your life is going to get worse, not better.
>
> I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you simply have to face up to
> the fact that your future is dark.



And you can't face up to the fact that you lack the backbone to talk
about how much of a failure you are yourself. You managed to leap past
the hurdle of having a real name but in spirit you're still an anonymous
piece of dog****. Sorry.

How'd you say the screenplays were doing, btw?

[Joseph Oberlander]

Dogma4e wrote:

> http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/search2.pl?seller&Gmsingh&1&3&4&

That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
a bad thing, actually.

[George M. Middius]

Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:

> That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
> a bad thing, actually.

That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
he's already made in his "business".

[Robert Morein]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
>
> > That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
> > a bad thing, actually.
>
> That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
> he's already made in his "business".
>
It's pathetic.
He ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and understand that
his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.

I'd like to give him some encouragement, but with his paltry skills and
obnoxious personality, it's hard to see what he can do with his life.

Following the obligatory nervous breakdown, there are plenty of openings on
"The Street", and I don't mean Wall Street.

Greg, don't make Arny's mistake -- being in the wrong place at the wrong
time.

[Joseph Oberlander]

Robert Morein wrote:

> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
>>
>>
>>>That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
>>>a bad thing, actually.
>>
>>That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
>>he's already made in his "business".
>>
>
> It's pathetic.
> He ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and understand that
> his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.

Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.

I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
of grief.

[trotsky]

Robert Morein wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
>>
>>
>>>That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
>>>a bad thing, actually.
>>
>>That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
>>he's already made in his "business".
>>
>
> It's pathetic.
> He ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and understand that
> his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.
>
> I'd like to give him some encouragement,


On how not to sell screenplays? Deal with cases of pancreatic cancer?
Do tell, Bob.

[Robert Morein]

"Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Robert Morein wrote:
>
> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>
> >>Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
> >>
> >>
> >>>That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
> >>>a bad thing, actually.
> >>
> >>That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
> >>he's already made in his "business".
> >>
> >
> > It's pathetic.
> > He ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and understand
that
> > his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.
>
> Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
> a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.
>
> I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
> of grief.
>
You're right, but I prefer to razz him mercilessly.
Your advice is right-on, and that is one way to spread the word and develop
a reputation, but I don't think he has the staying power.

[trotsky]

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> Robert Morein wrote:
>
>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
>>>
>>>
>>>> That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
>>>> a bad thing, actually.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
>>> he's already made in his "business".
>>>
>>
>> It's pathetic.
>> He ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and understand
>> that
>> his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.
>
>
> Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
> a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.
>
> I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
> of grief.


Go for it, liar.

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
ink.net...

> > I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
> > of grief.
>
>
> Go for it, liar.

He might dumbass. Not like you have any intellectual property rights
there.
Then what would you do if somone comes to market with essentially a
duplicate (same drivers and crossover and similar cabinet) at roughly 1/3
your asking price?
Even if he wasn't serious about the business, what little you have going
would be toast.
How many weeks of government assistance do you have left?

ScottW

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
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> Then what would you do if somone comes to market with essentially a
> duplicate (same drivers and crossover and similar cabinet) at roughly 1/3
> your asking price?

Make a nicer cabinet?




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[ScottW]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "ScottW" > wrote in message
> news:kQ1nb.38267$gi2.20137@fed1read01...
>
> > Then what would you do if somone comes to market with essentially a
> > duplicate (same drivers and crossover and similar cabinet) at roughly
1/3
> > your asking price?
>
> Make a nicer cabinet?

I thought it was already perfect. You mean it isn't?

ScottW

[Sylvan Morein DDS, sad father of Bob]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
>
> > That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
> > a bad thing, actually.
>
> That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
> he's already made in his "business".
>
It's pathetic.
My son Bob ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and
understand that his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.

I'd like to give him some encouragement,like I tried to do when he was in
his formative years, but with his paltry skills and obnoxious personality,
it's hard to see what he can do with his life. He has after all spent most
of his life in the protected environment of schools, where he's failed time
and time again.

Following his obligatory nervous breakdown, there are plenty of openings on
"The Street", and I don't mean Wall Street. His mother died a miserable
wretch due to Bob's failure at life.

Greg, don't make Bob's mistake -- being a miserable piece of ****.


Sylvan Morein, DDS
--

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/4853918.htm

> Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
> By L. STUART DITZEN
> Philadelphia Inquirer
>
> PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
> at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.
>
> They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
> so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
> to challenge his dismissal.

The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.
>
> "It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
> pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
> do come to a larger issue here."

An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
"pleasantly" eccentric.

> A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
> Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
> by the media and the public.

Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser.
>
> But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.
>
> Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
> years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
> computer engineering.

Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>
> Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
> thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
> rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
> patented.

A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.

>
> In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
> ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.

An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.

>
> Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
> Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.

Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
money to cover up his lack of productivity.
>
> That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
> tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.
>
> Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
> representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
> state Superior Court.
>
> The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
> restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
> time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
> affairs was reasserted.
>
> The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
> litigation, that would have been the end of it.
>
> But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
> asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.

Daddy throws more money down the crapper.

> His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
> even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
> right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
> compensation.
>
> "Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
> Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
> happened to him is pretty common."

It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.


> Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
> that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."
>
> "I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
> "We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
> intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
> pursuing self-destructive litigation."

No **** sherlock.

> The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
> committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
> Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.
>
> His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
> minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
> and electronic systems.
>
> The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
> calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
> nuclear plant or a computer.

My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
Robert Morein, only sawdust.

>
> Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
> and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
> through a university lawyer, declined to comment.
>
> At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
> 1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
> related to estimation theory.
>
> Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
> Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
> International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
> it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
> industrial processes.
>
> Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
> inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
> problem Kalata had presented.
>
> Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.
>
> K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.
>
> Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
> into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
> became alienated from Kalata.
>
> As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
> The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
> patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.

Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.

> In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
> department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
> asked for a new faculty adviser.

The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.

> He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
> Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.
>
> Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
> complete his thesis.

So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
(a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant!

>
> Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.

Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
usenet proves it.

>
> Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
> opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."

So much for political machine judges.
>
> The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
> about 100 of them.
>
> Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
> appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
> intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
> Pennsylvania courts.

> Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.

Just like all the failed "causes" Morein pursues. Heck, he's been
chasing another "Brian McCarty" for years and yet has ZERO impact on
anything.

Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.

>
> "I had to seek closure," he said.
>
> Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
> hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.

Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>
> As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
> from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
> make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
> an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
> bulletlike stream of water.


FAILED STUDENT
FAILED MOVIE MAKER
FAILED SCREENWRITER
FAILED INVESTOR
FAILED DRIVER
FAILED SON
FAILED PARENTS
FAILED INVENTOR
FAILED PLAINTIFF
FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
FAILED HUMAN
FAILED
FAILED

> But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.
>
> "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
> gnawing thing."

[Robert Morein]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
news:9z2nb.38588$gi2.33776@fed1read01...
>
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "ScottW" > wrote in message
> > news:kQ1nb.38267$gi2.20137@fed1read01...
> >
> > > Then what would you do if somone comes to market with essentially a
> > > duplicate (same drivers and crossover and similar cabinet) at roughly
> 1/3
> > > your asking price?
> >
> > Make a nicer cabinet?
>
> I thought it was already perfect. You mean it isn't?
>
> ScottW
>
The cabinet SOUNDS perfect.
The drivers LOOK good.

The result is a pretty web picture.
But NIMBY.

[Joseph Oberlander]

trotsky wrote:

>> Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
>> a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.
>>
>> I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
>> of grief.
>
>
>
> Go for it, liar.

Heh. In case you didn't notice, I'm the only one who sees your
selling on Audiogon as a respectable activity. Yet you decide to
bite and chew on me. Oh well...

[Robert Morein]

"Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> trotsky wrote:
>
> >> Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
> >> a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.
> >>
> >> I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
> >> of grief.
> >
> >
> >
> > Go for it, liar.
>
> Heh. In case you didn't notice, I'm the only one who sees your
> selling on Audiogon as a respectable activity. Yet you decide to
> bite and chew on me. Oh well...
>
As I asked before, had your fill of unmitigated gall yet?

[George M. Middius]

Robert Morein said to Obie:

> As I asked before, had your fill of unmitigated gall yet?

As a former Kroopologist, you should know exactly what the disease
does to a person.

[Robert Morein]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Robert Morein said to Obie:
>
> > As I asked before, had your fill of unmitigated gall yet?
>
> As a former Kroopologist, you should know exactly what the disease
> does to a person.
>
Yes, I'd better check my current immunization status.

[trotsky]

Robert Morein wrote:
> "Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>>Robert Morein wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
>>>>>a bad thing, actually.
>>>>
>>>>That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
>>>>he's already made in his "business".
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's pathetic.
>>>He ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and understand
>>
> that
>
>>>his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.
>>
>>Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
>>a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.
>>
>>I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
>>of grief.
>>
>
> You're right, but I prefer to razz him mercilessly.


You're not going to wish cancer on me, are you Bob? *That* would be ironic.

[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>
>>>I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
>>>of grief.
>>
>>
>>Go for it, liar.
>
>
> He might dumbass. Not like you have any intellectual property rights
> there.
> Then what would you do if somone comes to market with essentially a
> duplicate (same drivers and crossover and similar cabinet) at roughly 1/3
> your asking price?


Scooter, you can't be this stupid. Oh yes, I guess you can. You guys
keep on talking out of your ass because Mother Hen is too agenda driven
to get her and her boys to beat you down. Even if the whole retarded
lot of you teamed up you couldn't compete me with product design, ad
copy, web site quality, ad campaign, construction quality, et al. I
challenge one of you cowardly pieces of dog**** even to try.

[trotsky]

Sylvan Morein DDS, sad father of Bob wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Obie Wanna Third Mortgage said:
>>
>>
>>>That he's making $100-$200 profit per pair on audiogon is not
>>>a bad thing, actually.
>>
>>That's how much per hour? And don't forget the cost of the investment
>>he's already made in his "business".
>>
>
> It's pathetic.
> My son Bob ought to quit pretending, admit that he's a failure, and
> understand that his failure is due to his inadequacy as a person.
>
> I'd like to give him some encouragement,like I tried to do when he was in
> his formative years, but with his paltry skills and obnoxious personality,
> it's hard to see what he can do with his life. He has after all spent most
> of his life in the protected environment of schools, where he's failed time
> and time again.
>
> Following his obligatory nervous breakdown, there are plenty of openings on
> "The Street", and I don't mean Wall Street. His mother died a miserable
> wretch due to Bob's failure at life.
>
> Greg, don't make Bob's mistake -- being a miserable piece of ****.


I'll do my best, Sylvan. Hey, if you're a DDS how come Bob always
pretended you were a proctologist?

[trotsky]

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> trotsky wrote:
>
>>> Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
>>> a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.
>>>
>>> I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
>>> of grief.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Go for it, liar.
>
>
> Heh. In case you didn't notice, I'm the only one who sees your
> selling on Audiogon as a respectable activity. Yet you decide to
> bite and chew on me. Oh well...


Quit trolling, dickhead. Is your cranium literally shaped like a penis?

[trotsky]

Robert Morein wrote:
> "Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>>trotsky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Honestly - his selling them for a reasonable profit online isn't
>>>>a bad living or business - if that's what he wants to do.
>>>>
>>>>I'd have priced them at $400-$600 to begin with and saved a lot
>>>>of grief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Go for it, liar.
>>
>>Heh. In case you didn't notice, I'm the only one who sees your
>>selling on Audiogon as a respectable activity. Yet you decide to
>>bite and chew on me. Oh well...
>>
>
> As I asked before, had your fill of unmitigated gall yet?


Ouch, my pancreas really hurts now.

[trotsky]

Robert Morein wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Robert Morein said to Obie:
>>
>>
>>>As I asked before, had your fill of unmitigated gall yet?
>>
>>As a former Kroopologist, you should know exactly what the disease
>>does to a person.
>>
>
> Yes, I'd better check my current immunization status.


Wit like this and the guy can't sell a screenplay?

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...

> Even if the whole retarded
> lot of you teamed up you couldn't compete me with product design,

Are you claiming a Madisound exclusive?

> ad copy, web site quality, ad campaign

Lets gauge your success. How many orders have you received at your web
special price?

A world class add campaign surely would have generated some sales by now,
don't you think?

> construction quality, et al.

Explain why the sub with the excessive reserve had some cabinet defects?
Explain why the bookshelf belches insulation?
Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably need
tightening?

ScottW

[MiNE 109]

In article <6nbnb.42432$gi2.11264@fed1read01>,
"ScottW" > wrote:

> Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably need
> tightening?

Tightening driver screws is a fairly standard step in setting up
speakers.

Not needed for Quads.

Stephen

[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>> Even if the whole retarded
>>lot of you teamed up you couldn't compete me with product design,
>
>
> Are you claiming a Madisound exclusive?


I don't think you understand what's being discussed (what new?) I
designed the speaker, and none of you other trolls have proved you can
do so.


>>ad copy, web site quality, ad campaign
>
>
> Lets gauge your success. How many orders have you received at your web
> special price?


That's privileged information. You don't have any privileges. How many
orders have you received at your fantasy website?


> A world class add campaign surely would have generated some sales by now,
> don't you think?


I have no data to go on. You have no alpha waves to go on.


>>construction quality, et al.
>
>
> Explain why the sub with the excessive reserve had some cabinet defects?
> Explain why the bookshelf belches insulation?
> Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably need
> tightening?



This is all stuff you'll have to learn for yourself, Scottie. Or go
through life with bad sound, as you've been doing so far.

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> ScottW wrote:
> > "trotsky" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >
> >> Even if the whole retarded
> >>lot of you teamed up you couldn't compete me with product design,
> >
> >
> > Are you claiming a Madisound exclusive?
>
>
> I don't think you understand what's being discussed (what new?) I
> designed the speaker, and none of you other trolls have proved you can
> do so.

I built a pair of speakers once. A Jensen coax driver in a box for the
back of my Honda Civic. I use world class 1/4" plywood and lined the inside
and out with my hand selected carpet remnanat to achieve the perfect
damping. They sounded great and I could set them on the roof of the car
when were out partying at the quarry.
I think the real key was the way they seamlessly matched with my 8-track
tape player that really made them world class.
>
>
> >>ad copy, web site quality, ad campaign
> >
> >
> > Lets gauge your success. How many orders have you received at your web
> > special price?
>
>
> That's privileged information. You don't have any privileges. How many
> orders have you received at your fantasy website?

Same as you, none.
>
>
> > A world class add campaign surely would have generated some sales by
now,
> > don't you think?
>
>
> I have no data to go on.

Actually, zero is a data point. Unfortunately it isn't to indicative of a
world class add campaign. But then again, if you get 1 order it will be an
infinite increase so your add campaign will be the most effective ever.

>
>
> >>construction quality, et al.
> >
> >
> > Explain why the sub with the excessive reserve had some cabinet
defects?
> > Explain why the bookshelf belches insulation?
> > Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably
need
> > tightening?
>
>
>
> This is all stuff you'll have to learn for yourself, Scottie. Or go
> through life with bad sound, as you've been doing so far.

Those quality issues are pesky, aren't they? Nothing a good ass chewing
of the customer when they call to complain won't resolve. You gotta admit,
the Trots philosophy of customer service is at least unique if nothing
else.

ScottW

[ScottW]

"MiNE 109" > wrote in message
...
> In article <6nbnb.42432$gi2.11264@fed1read01>,
> "ScottW" > wrote:
>
> > Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably
need
> > tightening?
>
> Tightening driver screws is a fairly standard step in setting up
> speakers.
>
> Not needed for Quads.

Should not be needed for drivers hard mounted (no squishy gasket).
You did read the web site didn't you?

ScottW

[Joseph Oberlander]

ScottW wrote:

> Lets gauge your success. How many orders have you received at your web
> special price?
>
> A world class add campaign surely would have generated some sales by now,
> don't you think?

A: overpriced. I see this in real estate all the time. Some twink thinks
they can get $2 a square foot for a store per month and lets it sit for
4-6 months before finding just the right rube to move in. Given the person's
business sense, they likely will go under soon - another negative.

Consider:
say, 1000 sq ft. $2000 per month. 5 months no rent = -$10,000 finally
rented for a year. +24000. Net profit $14000.

$1500 per month. Rents immediately(no downtime). Rents for the same year.
(in reality, longer as the startup's overhead is lower) Net profit $18000.

In fact, the first example would require renting for two years solid in order
to break even with the second one. Of course, with higher rent, businesses
tend to move more, so when they do leave, you're back to 4-6 months of empty
space again.

What does this have to do with Greg?
Simple. If he priced them at $600 a pair, he'd sell 4-6 times as many per
month and net the same amount of profit when all was said and done.

His advantage, though, is low lag-time, immediate funds(if in smaller
chunks), and a greatly increased number of clients/customers - most of
whom would give his speakers a good review since the price is somewhat
reasonable.

>>construction quality, et al.
>
> Explain why the sub with the excessive reserve had some cabinet defects?

Probably got bunged up a bit being transported to L.A. for a review.

> Explain why the bookshelf belches insulation?

Fixed, though not in a great manner, IMO.

> Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably need
> tightening?

Excessive bass?
;)

(actually, Greg - loc-tite or a lock-washer should be used)

[Joseph Oberlander]

ScottW wrote:

> Those quality issues are pesky, aren't they? Nothing a good ass chewing
> of the customer when they call to complain won't resolve. You gotta admit,
> the Trots philosophy of customer service is at least unique if nothing
> else.

Heh. I can just imagine him all meek and helpful and "the customer is always
right"...

NOT.

[trotsky]

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

> (actually, Greg - loc-tite or a lock-washer should be used)


Actually, Moronlander, the T-nuts settle into the wood over time and
Loctite is the last thing you want to use.

[MiNE 109]

In article <VCcnb.42965$gi2.19701@fed1read01>,
"ScottW" > wrote:

> "MiNE 109" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article <6nbnb.42432$gi2.11264@fed1read01>,
> > "ScottW" > wrote:
> >
> > > Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably
> need
> > > tightening?
> >
> > Tightening driver screws is a fairly standard step in setting up
> > speakers.
> >
> > Not needed for Quads.
>
> Should not be needed for drivers hard mounted (no squishy gasket).
> You did read the web site didn't you?

I thought there was a squishy gasket after all. Still, even hard-mounted
screws can come loose.

Stephen

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>
> > (actually, Greg - loc-tite or a lock-washer should be used)
>
>
> Actually, Moronlander, the T-nuts settle into the wood over time and
> Loctite is the last thing you want to use.

Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the hole
with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so they don't
settle.

ScottW

[ScottW]

"MiNE 109" > wrote in message
...
>
> I thought there was a squishy gasket after all. Still, even hard-mounted
> screws can come loose.

Sure, they can. But shouldn't if the quality and design are world class.
They are world class aren't they?

ScottW

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01

> Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
> hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so
> they don't settle.

IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't settle if
properly set in the first place. The resilience of the wood acts like a
natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on my sub, set in t-nuts in
MDF, untouched and operational for over 20 years. No problems.

[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>>
>>
>>>(actually, Greg - loc-tite or a lock-washer should be used)
>>
>>
>>Actually, Moronlander, the T-nuts settle into the wood over time and
>>Loctite is the last thing you want to use.
>
>
> Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the hole
> with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so they don't
> settle.


I think you need to brush up on what T-nuts are. It is isn't a
complicated concept.

[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "MiNE 109" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I thought there was a squishy gasket after all. Still, even hard-mounted
>>screws can come loose.
>
>
> Sure, they can. But shouldn't if the quality and design are world class.
> They are world class aren't they?


There's that stupidity I was talking about. I impart some knowledge,
and you keep on scratching your head.

[trotsky]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "ScottW" > wrote in message
> news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01
>
>
>> Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
>>hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so
>>they don't settle.
>
>
> IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't settle if
> properly set in the first place. The resilience of the wood acts like a
> natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on my sub, set in t-nuts in
> MDF, untouched and operational for over 20 years. No problems.


What do you mean by "problems", Arny? I mean, if we were to ask your
wife I could see her saying your screws have problems, but that's a
different matter. If there's room for even as little as a quarter turn
per screw it makes a difference.

[George M. Middius]

At last -- a single, elegant syllogism for decoding TrotskyGibber.

> It is isn't a complicated concept.

Nobody thought it was wasn't.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Stephen wrote:


>In article <6nbnb.42432$gi2.11264@fed1read01>,
> "ScottW" > wrote:
>
>> Explain why you warn your customers that the screws will probably need
>> tightening?
>
>Tightening driver screws is a fairly standard step in setting up
>speakers.
>
>Not needed for Quads.
>
>Stephen
>
>
>
>
>
>

Or for Martin Logan CLS IIs or Magnepans.



Bruce J. Richman

[Arny Krueger]

"trotsky" > wrote in message

> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>> news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01
>>
>>
>>> Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
>>> hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so
>>> they don't settle.
>>
>>
>> IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't
>> settle if properly set in the first place. The resilience of the
>> wood acts like a natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on
>> my sub, set in t-nuts in MDF, untouched and operational for over 20
>> years. No problems.

> What do you mean by "problems", Arny?

Room for even as little as a quarter turn per screw.

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> ScottW wrote:
> > "MiNE 109" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>I thought there was a squishy gasket after all. Still, even
hard-mounted
> >>screws can come loose.
> >
> >
> > Sure, they can. But shouldn't if the quality and design are world
class.
> > They are world class aren't they?
>
>
> There's that stupidity I was talking about. I impart some knowledge,

Crap, I must have missed that one.

So are they world class or are they not? Since we know your standards for
world class are pretty low, I would think they are - unless this having to
tighten your T-nuts is getting annoying. Try countersinking a small hold
and filling with a stronger material like wood filler. Your nuts wont keep
sinking on you.

ScottW

[MiNE 109]

In article <XPdnb.43473$gi2.40844@fed1read01>,
"ScottW" > wrote:

> "MiNE 109" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I thought there was a squishy gasket after all. Still, even hard-mounted
> > screws can come loose.
>
> Sure, they can. But shouldn't if the quality and design are world class.
> They are world class aren't they?

Self-tightening screws would be a selling point...

[Joseph Oberlander]

trotsky wrote:

>
>
> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>
>> (actually, Greg - loc-tite or a lock-washer should be used)
>
>
>
> Actually, Moronlander, the T-nuts settle into the wood over time and
> Loctite is the last thing you want to use.

I thought you were using gaskets. There should be almost no "settling"
if you're doing it correctly.

[Joseph Oberlander]

trotsky wrote:

>
>
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>> news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01
>>
>>
>>> Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
>>> hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so
>>> they don't settle.
>>
>>
>>
>> IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't
>> settle if
>> properly set in the first place. The resilience of the wood acts like a
>> natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on my sub, set in
>> t-nuts in
>> MDF, untouched and operational for over 20 years. No problems.
>
>
>
> What do you mean by "problems", Arny? I mean, if we were to ask your
> wife I could see her saying your screws have problems, but that's a
> different matter. If there's room for even as little as a quarter turn
> per screw it makes a difference.

Otoh, repeated incessant overtightening will lead to all sorts of
other problems as MDF isn't the strongest of materials as far as
holding screws goes.

[Joseph Oberlander]

ScottW wrote:


> So are they world class or are they not? Since we know your standards for
> world class are pretty low, I would think they are - unless this having to
> tighten your T-nuts is getting annoying. Try countersinking a small hold
> and filling with a stronger material like wood filler. Your nuts wont keep
> sinking on you.

Or, failing that - a simple thin lock-washer in the same countersunk hole.

[trotsky]

George M. Middius wrote:
>
> At last -- a single, elegant syllogism for decoding TrotskyGibber.
>
>
>>It is isn't a complicated concept.
>
>
> Nobody thought it was wasn't.


And I do agree that you speak for nobody.

[trotsky]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
>
>
>>Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>>>"ScottW" > wrote in message
>>>news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
>>>>hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so
>>>>they don't settle.
>>>
>>>
>>>IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't
>>>settle if properly set in the first place. The resilience of the
>>>wood acts like a natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on
>>>my sub, set in t-nuts in MDF, untouched and operational for over 20
>>>years. No problems.
>>
>
>>What do you mean by "problems", Arny?
>
>
> Room for even as little as a quarter turn per screw.


Eventually the wood compresses and reaches a steady state. Are you
lying and saying you knew exactly when that occurred?

[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>ScottW wrote:
>>
>>>"MiNE 109" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I thought there was a squishy gasket after all. Still, even
>>>
> hard-mounted
>
>>>>screws can come loose.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, they can. But shouldn't if the quality and design are world
>>
> class.
>
>>>They are world class aren't they?
>>
>>
>>There's that stupidity I was talking about. I impart some knowledge,
>
>
> Crap, I must have missed that one.
>
> So are they world class or are they not?


I'm not sure what you're asking, Scottie. Because you are a horse's
ass, you don't understand what's good and what's not good in the
manufacture of audio equipment, specifically speakers. Hence your
concept of "world class" in the above question proves further that you
are a horse's ass. We go over this again and again: I'm running out of
ways to tell you how stupid you are.


Since we know your standards for
> world class are pretty low,


How odd, you'd think Mr. Viagra wouldn't talk so much trash like this.


I would think they are - unless this having to
> tighten your T-nuts is getting annoying. Try countersinking a small hold
> and filling with a stronger material like wood filler. Your nuts wont keep
> sinking on you.


Build a speaker that isn't a piece of **** (the only thing you're
capable of) and get back to us. As a further exercise, send the
speakers to one of the group's regulars and ask him to be objective.
You wouldn't last five minutes in that ****storm, you pansy ass limp
dicked son of a bitch. Are we clear?

[trotsky]

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> trotsky wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>>
>>> (actually, Greg - loc-tite or a lock-washer should be used)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, Moronlander, the T-nuts settle into the wood over time and
>> Loctite is the last thing you want to use.
>
>
> I thought you were using gaskets. There should be almost no "settling"
> if you're doing it correctly.


Who knew there were so many screw experts on the group? LOL!

[trotsky]

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> trotsky wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>> news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
>>>> hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut so
>>>> they don't settle.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't
>>> settle if
>>> properly set in the first place. The resilience of the wood acts like a
>>> natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on my sub, set in
>>> t-nuts in
>>> MDF, untouched and operational for over 20 years. No problems.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you mean by "problems", Arny? I mean, if we were to ask your
>> wife I could see her saying your screws have problems, but that's a
>> different matter. If there's room for even as little as a quarter
>> turn per screw it makes a difference.
>
>
> Otoh, repeated incessant overtightening will lead to all sorts of
> other problems as MDF isn't the strongest of materials as far as
> holding screws goes.



Yeah, I heard that's what started those forest fires in California.

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
> >>There's that stupidity I was talking about. I impart some knowledge,
> >
> >
> > Crap, I must have missed that one.
> >
> > So are they world class or are they not?
>
>
> I'm not sure what you're asking, Scottie.

You built 'em and yet you hesitate to comment on this. Me thinks you are
aware of undisclosed design flaws which don't measure to even your low
standards of world class.

> Because you are a horse's
> ass, you don't understand what's good and what's not good in the
> manufacture of audio equipment, specifically speakers. Hence your
> concept of "world class" in the above question proves further that you
> are a horse's ass.

Actually, I was allowing you to set the standard of world class.
All this circular horse's ass gibberish is irrelevant.

> We go over this again and again: I'm running out of
> ways to tell you how stupid you are.

Like a child struggling with his studies, "I don't get it, it's stupid".

>
> Since we know your standards for
> > world class are pretty low,
>
>
> How odd, you'd think Mr. Viagra wouldn't talk so much trash like this.
>
>
> I would think they are - unless this having to
> > tighten your T-nuts is getting annoying. Try countersinking a small
hold
> > and filling with a stronger material like wood filler. Your nuts wont
keep
> > sinking on you.
>
>
> Build a speaker that isn't a piece of **** (the only thing you're
> capable of) and get back to us.

Is that all it would take to exceed you? Build a speaker that "isn't a
piece of ****"?
That means that your speakers are a piece of ****.
I think you might want to think before typing again.

> As a further exercise, send the
> speakers to one of the group's regulars and ask him to be objective.
> You wouldn't last five minutes in that ****storm, you pansy ass limp
> dicked son of a bitch. Are we clear?

Actually there wouldn't be a ****storm if I simply thanked him for his
time
and honest opinion. I wouldn't ask someone to do something and then
attack them for doing it like a world class asshole we know has done.

BTW, I found the broken solder joint causing my preamp to be intermittent.
Hard to find, I had to use this little pocket microscope I got recently.
Cool
little device but hard to focus. Anyway, it's working fine now and in
spite of
its country of origin - it sounds great.

It's sad that you sold Yamaha all those years and only took the time to
push their
consumer stuff on your customers.

ScottW

[Arny Krueger]

"trotsky" > wrote in message

> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "trotsky" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>>> news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
>>>>> hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut
>>>>> so they don't settle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't
>>>> settle if properly set in the first place. The resilience of the
>>>> wood acts like a natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on
>>>> my sub, set in t-nuts in MDF, untouched and operational for over 20
>>>> years. No problems.
>>>
>>
>>> What do you mean by "problems", Arny?
>>
>>
>> Room for even as little as a quarter turn per screw.

> Eventually the wood compresses and reaches a steady state.

IME that happens when I assemble the speaker.

> Are you lying and saying you knew exactly when that occurred?

I turned the screws down until things felt *right* and that was that. Given
that I've been doing carpentry, home improvements, car repair and audio
construction for about 50 years, my wrists are pretty well educated to what
feels right.

[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>>There's that stupidity I was talking about. I impart some knowledge,
>>>
>>>
>>> Crap, I must have missed that one.
>>>
>>> So are they world class or are they not?
>>
>>
>>I'm not sure what you're asking, Scottie.
>
>
> You built 'em and yet you hesitate to comment on this. Me thinks you are
> aware of undisclosed design flaws which don't measure to even your low
> standards of world class.


Scottie, do you even have the brain power to take a statement in context?


>>Because you are a horse's
>>ass, you don't understand what's good and what's not good in the
>>manufacture of audio equipment, specifically speakers. Hence your
>>concept of "world class" in the above question proves further that you
>>are a horse's ass.
>
>
> Actually, I was allowing you to set the standard of world class.
> All this circular horse's ass gibberish is irrelevant.


No, apparently you didn't understand what you'd written, you dumb son of
a bitch. For you "world class" equates to some mentally masturbated
concept of how screws work.


>> We go over this again and again: I'm running out of
>>ways to tell you how stupid you are.
>
>
> Like a child struggling with his studies, "I don't get it, it's stupid".


If you're having trouble, ask somebody for some help.


>> Since we know your standards for
>>
>>>world class are pretty low,
>>
>>
>>How odd, you'd think Mr. Viagra wouldn't talk so much trash like this.
>>
>>
>>I would think they are - unless this having to
>>
>>>tighten your T-nuts is getting annoying. Try countersinking a small
>>
> hold
>
>>>and filling with a stronger material like wood filler. Your nuts wont
>>
> keep
>
>>>sinking on you.
>>
>>
>>Build a speaker that isn't a piece of **** (the only thing you're
>>capable of) and get back to us.
>
>
> Is that all it would take to exceed you? Build a speaker that "isn't a
> piece of ****"?
> That means that your speakers are a piece of ****.
> I think you might want to think before typing again.


Again, context just eludes you.


>>As a further exercise, send the
>>speakers to one of the group's regulars and ask him to be objective.
>>You wouldn't last five minutes in that ****storm, you pansy ass limp
>>dicked son of a bitch. Are we clear?
>
>
> Actually there wouldn't be a ****storm if I simply thanked him for his
> time
> and honest opinion.


You didn't thank George or me when we explained how stupid you are.
Care to guess again?


I wouldn't ask someone to do something and then
> attack them for doing it like a world class asshole we know has done.


Yeah, that's an accurate summation. Not.


> BTW, I found the broken solder joint causing my preamp to be intermittent.
> Hard to find, I had to use this little pocket microscope I got recently.
> Cool
> little device but hard to focus. Anyway, it's working fine now and in
> spite of
> its country of origin - it sounds great.


I'm sure it compares very favorably to the Chord preamp I use. BTW, I'm
about to put it up for sale to fund my speaker operation. I wouldn't
sell it to you, though, because you wouldn't appreciate it.


> It's sad that you sold Yamaha all those years and only took the time to
> push their
> consumer stuff on your customers.


LOL! You think their preamps aren't "consumer stuff"?

[trotsky]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
>
>
>>Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>>>"trotsky" > wrote in message

>>>
>>>
>>>>Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"ScottW" > wrote in message
>>>>>news:EDdnb.43386$gi2.28847@fed1read01
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like a design improvement is possible. Perhaps filling the
>>>>>>hole with something a little stronger before inserting the T-nut
>>>>>>so they don't settle.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>IME Singh was obsessing. As a rule t-nuts in MDF or plywood don't
>>>>>settle if properly set in the first place. The resilience of the
>>>>>wood acts like a natural lock-washer. I just checked the screws on
>>>>>my sub, set in t-nuts in MDF, untouched and operational for over 20
>>>>>years. No problems.
>>>>
>>>>What do you mean by "problems", Arny?
>>>
>>>
>>>Room for even as little as a quarter turn per screw.
>>
>
>>Eventually the wood compresses and reaches a steady state.
>
>
> IME that happens when I assemble the speaker.


Which is the speaker you are assembling? Do you assemble the speaker often?


>> Are you lying and saying you knew exactly when that occurred?
>
>
> I turned the screws down until things felt *right* and that was that. Given
> that I've been doing carpentry, home improvements, car repair and audio
> construction for about 50 years, my wrists are pretty well educated to what
> feels right.


Don't forget metalurgy (sic)! You could fashion your own screws!

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...

> I'm sure it compares very favorably to the Chord preamp I use. BTW, I'm
> about to put it up for sale to fund my speaker operation.

That is the beginning of the end. Selling off the assetts.


> I wouldn't
> sell it to you, though, because you wouldn't appreciate it.

How much?

ScottW

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>
> I turned the screws down until things felt *right* and that was that.
Given
> that I've been doing carpentry, home improvements, car repair and audio
> construction for about 50 years, my wrists are pretty well educated to
what
> feels right.
>


Too bad you can't say the same about your ears.




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[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>I'm sure it compares very favorably to the Chord preamp I use. BTW, I'm
>>about to put it up for sale to fund my speaker operation.
>
>
> That is the beginning of the end. Selling off the assetts.



Scott, since you do nothing except sit on your ass collecting a paycheck
(and hoping you'll be able to get another hard-on someday), it's not
really your place to say a goddamned thing. What do you do if your kid
asks "What does "nothing ventured nothing gained" mean?"--tell him to go
wash his mouth out with soap?


>> I wouldn't
>>sell it to you, though, because you wouldn't appreciate it.
>
>
> How much?


How much what? How much is your brain worth? You'd have to go to a
different currency for that--1 peso, maybe.

[trotsky]

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I turned the screws down until things felt *right* and that was that.
>
> Given
>
>>that I've been doing carpentry, home improvements, car repair and audio
>>construction for about 50 years, my wrists are pretty well educated to
>
> what
>
>>feels right.
>>
>
>
>
> Too bad you can't say the same about your ears.


It might not be his fault, though. They might've got all froze when he
was fixing radars in the snow in Barvaria (sic).

[dave weil]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:16:23 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>
>
>ScottW wrote:
>> "trotsky" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>
>>> Even if the whole retarded
>>>lot of you teamed up you couldn't compete me with product design,
>>
>>
>> Are you claiming a Madisound exclusive?
>
>
>I don't think you understand what's being discussed (what new?) I
>designed the speaker, and none of you other trolls have proved you can
>do so.

Give me a break. I can spend $40 and get the same result as you.

>>>ad copy, web site quality, ad campaign
>>
>>
>> Lets gauge your success. How many orders have you received at your web
>> special price?
>
>
>That's privileged information.

Sure it is.

> You don't have any privileges. How many orders have you received at your fantasy website?

Frankly, it's not my concern how much macaroni and cheese you're
having to eat while to try to sell a few pair of speakers.

>> A world class add campaign surely would have generated some sales by now,
>> don't you think?
>
>
>I have no data to go on.

That's because it's "privileged information".

[dave weil]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:23:32 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>Actually, Moronlander, the T-nuts settle into the wood over time and
>Loctite is the last thing you want to use.

Greg, quit this gay banter immediately!

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> ScottW wrote:
> > "trotsky" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >
> >>I'm sure it compares very favorably to the Chord preamp I use. BTW,
I'm
> >>about to put it up for sale to fund my speaker operation.
> >
> >
> > That is the beginning of the end. Selling off the assetts.
>
>
>
> Scott, since you do nothing except sit on your ass collecting a paycheck

Hey, there's an informed opinion. Just because I succeeded on a path
which
you fail is no reason to be jealous. Well maybe it is, cuz I really am
working
by choice rather than need. Are you on unemployment by choice or need?

> (and hoping you'll be able to get another hard-on someday),

The last strand of moral fiber stretching. Repeat a lie enough
times and some fool might believe it. Still, with every bs comment
you only succeed in remaining a LIAR. Be proud, LIAR.


> it's not
> really your place to say a goddamned thing. What do you do if your kid
> asks "What does "nothing ventured nothing gained" mean?"--tell him to go
> wash his mouth out with soap?

I help him understand the economics of his venture and the best way to
succeed is to provide a good value. Of course there is always the
fall back plan, overpriced bookshelfs to the audio gullible.
>
>
> >> I wouldn't
> >>sell it to you, though, because you wouldn't appreciate it.
> >
> >
> > How much?
>
>
> How much what?

I though you were looking for cash.
Try your pawnshop.

ScottW

[George M. Middius]

Langis said:

> >> I'm sure it compares very favorably to the Chord preamp I use. BTW, I'm
> >> about to put it up for sale to fund my speaker operation.
> >
> > That is the beginning of the end. Selling off the assetts.
>
> Since when was selling personal assetts to raise funds for a new
> venture 'the beginning of the end'? It's standard practice.

There's a qualitative difference between cashing in your retirement
holdings and selling off your most prized possessions that you use
every day.

[ScottW]

"Langis" > wrote in message
...
> "ScottW" > wrote:
>
> > I though you were looking for cash.
> > Try your pawnshop.
>
> A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!

I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
enough money to redeem his ticket.
Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?

ScottW

[ScottW]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Langis said:
>
> > >> I'm sure it compares very favorably to the Chord preamp I use. BTW,
I'm
> > >> about to put it up for sale to fund my speaker operation.
> > >
> > > That is the beginning of the end. Selling off the assetts.
> >
> > Since when was selling personal assetts to raise funds for a new
> > venture 'the beginning of the end'? It's standard practice.
>
> There's a qualitative difference between cashing in your retirement
> holdings and selling off your most prized possessions that you use
> every day.

Exactly, and now Trots will be using substandard equipment to evaluate
his designs.
Its a slippery slope he has chosen.

But I do see a few C-50s and C-60s he can acquire for reasonable expense
to sustain
his "lab".

ScottW

[dave weil]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:50:53 -0800, "ScottW" >
wrote:

>
>"Langis" > wrote in message
...
>> "ScottW" > wrote:
>>
>> > I though you were looking for cash.
>> > Try your pawnshop.
>>
>> A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!
>
> I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
>enough money to redeem his ticket.
>Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
>I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?
>
>ScottW

I hope you suffer no misfortunes, Scott.

<s******>

See Art and Marc, this is the reason that I think that Scott is a
piece of slime. This doesn't mean that I don't think you should be
friends with him though.

[The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:37:03 +0000, Langis > wrote:

>Do you have an inventory of Greg's possessions?

Sure. He's giving the effetre dalek even more balls.

--
td

[The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:50:20 +0000, The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra
> wrote:

>>Do you have an inventory of Greg's possessions?
>
>Sure. He's giving the effetre dalek even more balls.

Er. And the link is:

http://www.drawntotheflame.com/Beads.html

--
td

[MiNE 109]

In article >,
The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra > wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:50:20 +0000, The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra
> > wrote:
>
> >>Do you have an inventory of Greg's possessions?
> >
> >Sure. He's giving the effetre dalek even more balls.
>
> Er. And the link is:
>
> http://www.drawntotheflame.com/Beads.html

I like the attached ones.

Stephen

[trotsky]

dave weil wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:16:23 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>
>>ScottW wrote:
>>
>>>"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Even if the whole retarded
>>>>lot of you teamed up you couldn't compete me with product design,
>>>
>>>
>>>Are you claiming a Madisound exclusive?
>>
>>
>>I don't think you understand what's being discussed (what new?) I
>>designed the speaker, and none of you other trolls have proved you can
>>do so.
>
>
> Give me a break. I can spend $40 and get the same result as you.


Do it, liar.

[trotsky]

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>ScottW wrote:
>>
>>>"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm sure it compares very favorably to the Chord preamp I use. BTW,
>>>
> I'm
>
>>>>about to put it up for sale to fund my speaker operation.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is the beginning of the end. Selling off the assetts.
>>
>>
>>
>>Scott, since you do nothing except sit on your ass collecting a paycheck
>
>
> Hey, there's an informed opinion. Just because I succeeded on a path
> which
> you fail is no reason to be jealous.


Excuse me? I used to be you, remember? You think I don't know about
the anal retentivity of a bunch of engineers having a conversation
together? Please.


Well maybe it is, cuz I really am
> working
> by choice rather than need. Are you on unemployment by choice or need?


That's about the lamest thing I've ever heard. And it came from
"ScottW", what are the odds?


>> (and hoping you'll be able to get another hard-on someday),
>
>
> The last strand of moral fiber stretching. Repeat a lie enough
> times and some fool might believe it. Still, with every bs comment
> you only succeed in remaining a LIAR. Be proud, LIAR.


What specifically am I LYING about, liar?


>>it's not
>>really your place to say a goddamned thing. What do you do if your kid
>>asks "What does "nothing ventured nothing gained" mean?"--tell him to go
>>wash his mouth out with soap?
>
>
> I help him understand the economics of his venture and the best way to
> succeed is to provide a good value. Of course there is always the
> fall back plan, overpriced bookshelfs to the audio gullible.


If they're "overpriced" you must be referring to their sound quality. I
thought you were opposed to talking out of your ass in this way. Or
does sound quality not matter to you? You might want to think about
your answer very carefully.


>>>>I wouldn't
>>>>sell it to you, though, because you wouldn't appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>> How much?
>>
>>
>>How much what?
>
>
> I though you were looking for cash.
> Try your pawnshop.


"I enjoy the anal retentivity of the conversations with my coworkers as
a matter of choice." That's pretty funny!

[trotsky]

MiNE 109 wrote:
> In article >,
> The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra > wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:50:20 +0000, The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Do you have an inventory of Greg's possessions?
>>>
>>>Sure. He's giving the effetre dalek even more balls.
>>
>>Er. And the link is:
>>
>>http://www.drawntotheflame.com/Beads.html
>
>
> I like the attached ones.


Wishful thinking.

[George M. Middius]

Langis said:

> >There's a qualitative difference between cashing in your retirement
> >holdings and selling off your most prized possessions that you use
> >every day.
>
> I don't know that Greg intended to hang on to the Chord, he invited me
> to make an offer on it a while back.

He's been unemployed since a while back too.

> He'll probably break even on it
> at least, I would imagine.

Sure, since he got it at an "accommodation" price, or bought it used
himself.

> Scott doesn't know what he's talking about.

And your point.....?

[George M. Middius]

Gregipus cranks up his LogoMorphoBox.

> the anal retentivity

That's an engineers' word, you dork.

[The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:29:01 GMT, MiNE 109 >
wrote:

>> http://www.drawntotheflame.com/Beads.html
>
>I like the attached ones.

Butch Effeminance--the new fragrance from Jupiter Daleks.

Hell, I'd pay more than $450 for a bottle of that.

--
td

[dave weil]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:17:09 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>>>I don't think you understand what's being discussed (what new?) I
>>>designed the speaker, and none of you other trolls have proved you can
>>>do so.
>>
>>
>> Give me a break. I can spend $40 and get the same result as you.
>
>
>Do it, liar.

Yep - all I have to do is do the same thing you did. Pick a couple of
drivers and send Madisound some dimensions and $40 (or whatever it is
that they require) and they'll design a crossover for me. The rest is
just holding my breath like you did. I've got a 9 in 10 chance that
they'll sound better than some Dunlavy VIs.

[ScottW]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:50:53 -0800, "ScottW" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Langis" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> "ScottW" > wrote:
> >>
> >> > I though you were looking for cash.
> >> > Try your pawnshop.
> >>
> >> A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!
> >
> > I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
> >enough money to redeem his ticket.
> >Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
> >I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?
> >
> >ScottW
>
> I hope you suffer no misfortunes, Scott.
>
> <s******>
>
> See Art and Marc, this is the reason that I think that Scott is a
> piece of slime.

Taking the group a little too seriously again.

>This doesn't mean that I don't think you should be
> friends with him though.

You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
because I speculate on Trots speaker business which you've
been doing to at least equal degree if not more.

You obviously don't know what to think. I suggest you
crank up those Klipsch to live levels for a few hours
and clear your head.

ScottW

[ScottW]

"Langis" > wrote in message
...
> "ScottW" > wrote:
>
> >> > I though you were looking for cash.
> >> > Try your pawnshop.
> >>
> >> A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!
> >
> > I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
> >enough money to redeem his ticket.
> >Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
> >I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?
>
> This stream-of-consciousness stuff is quite tedious. If you're going
> to do that - will you please try to think more clearly.

No.

ScottW

[ScottW]

"trotsky" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >
> > Hey, there's an informed opinion. Just because I succeeded on a
path
> > which you fail is no reason to be jealous.
>
>
> Excuse me? I used to be you, remember? You think I don't know about
> the anal retentivity of a bunch of engineers having a conversation
> together? Please.

Everything you know about engineers you got from Dilbert.
Outside of work, you couldn't identify most of my friends as engineers.
Hell, even at work as the dress is more casual than even audio sales
folks. Maybe you worked a week at IBM when white shirts were
mandator but the times have changed.
>
>
> Well maybe it is, cuz I really am
> > working
> > by choice rather than need. Are you on unemployment by choice or need?
>
>
> That's about the lamest thing I've ever heard. And it came from
> "ScottW", what are the odds?
>
>
> >> (and hoping you'll be able to get another hard-on someday),
> >
> >
> > The last strand of moral fiber stretching. Repeat a lie enough
> > times and some fool might believe it. Still, with every bs comment
> > you only succeed in remaining a LIAR. Be proud, LIAR.
>
>
> What specifically am I LYING about, liar?

I forgot, to you lying is in the eye of the beholder.
SNAP, there went your last moral fiber.
>
>
> >>it's not
> >>really your place to say a goddamned thing. What do you do if your kid
> >>asks "What does "nothing ventured nothing gained" mean?"--tell him to
go
> >>wash his mouth out with soap?
> >
> >
> > I help him understand the economics of his venture and the best way to
> > succeed is to provide a good value. Of course there is always the
> > fall back plan, overpriced bookshelfs to the audio gullible.
>
>
> If they're "overpriced" you must be referring to their sound quality.

Nope, I'm referring to the materials and design.

> I
> thought you were opposed to talking out of your ass in this way. Or
> does sound quality not matter to you?

Sound quality is important, dumb luck isn't particularly valuable.

> You might want to think about
> your answer very carefully.

Only one who claims your speakers are worth $1600 is
..... you.
>
>
> >>>>I wouldn't
> >>>>sell it to you, though, because you wouldn't appreciate it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How much?
> >>
> >>
> >>How much what?
> >
> >
> > I though you were looking for cash.
> > Try your pawnshop.
>
>
> "I enjoy the anal retentivity of the conversations with my coworkers as
> a matter of choice." That's pretty funny!

Enjoy the ignorant stereotype defense. It's all you have.

ScottW

[dave weil]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:02:02 -0800, "ScottW" >
wrote:

>
>"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:50:53 -0800, "ScottW" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Langis" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> "ScottW" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I though you were looking for cash.
>> >> > Try your pawnshop.
>> >>
>> >> A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!
>> >
>> > I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
>> >enough money to redeem his ticket.
>> >Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
>> >I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?
>> >
>> >ScottW
>>
>> I hope you suffer no misfortunes, Scott.
>>
>> <s******>
>>
>> See Art and Marc, this is the reason that I think that Scott is a
>> piece of slime.
>
> Taking the group a little too seriously again.
>
>>This doesn't mean that I don't think you should be
>> friends with him though.
>
> You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
>because I speculate on Trots speaker business

You've done more than "speculate" on Greg's business and you know it.

Stop being so disengenuous.

Oh wait, for you, that's impossible.

>which you've been doing to at least equal degree if not more.

I disagree.

I think you're a bit confused at this point.

>You obviously don't know what to think. I suggest you
>crank up those Klipsch to live levels for a few hours
> and clear your head.

Time to throw another lobster on the roo..I mean the barbie.

[dave weil]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:04:51 -0800, "ScottW" >
wrote:

>
>"Langis" > wrote in message
...
>> "ScottW" > wrote:
>>
>> >> > I though you were looking for cash.
>> >> > Try your pawnshop.
>> >>
>> >> A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!
>> >
>> > I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
>> >enough money to redeem his ticket.
>> >Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
>> >I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?
>>
>> This stream-of-consciousness stuff is quite tedious. If you're going
>> to do that - will you please try to think more clearly.
>
> No.

Well said, Scott.

And you accuse *me* of unclear thinking...

[trotsky]

dave weil wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:17:09 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>>I don't think you understand what's being discussed (what new?) I
>>>>designed the speaker, and none of you other trolls have proved you can
>>>>do so.
>>>
>>>
>>>Give me a break. I can spend $40 and get the same result as you.
>>
>>
>>Do it, liar.
>
>
> Yep - all I have to do is do the same thing you did. Pick a couple of
> drivers and send Madisound some dimensions and $40 (or whatever it is
> that they require) and they'll design a crossover for me. The rest is
> just holding my breath like you did. I've got a 9 in 10 chance that
> they'll sound better than some Dunlavy VIs.


Unless you review them, in which case nobody will know what the hell
they sound like.

[ScottW]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> >
> > You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
> >because I speculate on Trots speaker business
>
> You've done more than "speculate" on Greg's business and you know it.
>
> Stop being so disengenuous.
>
> Oh wait, for you, that's impossible.
>
> >which you've been doing to at least equal degree if not more.
>
> I disagree.
>

Too bad. I have no interest in embarking on a 40 post
thread of who said what when for which you seem to live
for. Gaining your agreement isn't making my priority list
today.

ScottW

[dave weil]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:39:05 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>
>
>dave weil wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:17:09 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>I don't think you understand what's being discussed (what new?) I
>>>>>designed the speaker, and none of you other trolls have proved you can
>>>>>do so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Give me a break. I can spend $40 and get the same result as you.
>>>
>>>
>>>Do it, liar.
>>
>>
>> Yep - all I have to do is do the same thing you did. Pick a couple of
>> drivers and send Madisound some dimensions and $40 (or whatever it is
>> that they require) and they'll design a crossover for me. The rest is
>> just holding my breath like you did. I've got a 9 in 10 chance that
>> they'll sound better than some Dunlavy VIs.
>
>
>Unless you review them, in which case nobody will know what the hell
>they sound like.

Or you review them, in which case they'll sound like **** because you
didn't build them.

Having said that, I wouldn't be so presumptuous to review them myself.
Only an idiot would do that.

Oh wait...

[dave weil]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:42:16 -0800, "ScottW" >
wrote:

>
>"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
>> >
>> > You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
>> >because I speculate on Trots speaker business
>>
>> You've done more than "speculate" on Greg's business and you know it.
>>
>> Stop being so disengenuous.
>>
>> Oh wait, for you, that's impossible.
>>
>> >which you've been doing to at least equal degree if not more.
>>
>> I disagree.
>>
>
> Too bad.

Yes, it's too bad that I'm right and you're wrong.

> I have no interest in embarking on a 40 post
>thread of who said what when for which you seem to live
>for. Gaining your agreement isn't making my priority list
>today.

No, your priority list at the moment includes getting all ticked off
because I made a comment that perhaps you should take a very limited
interest subject off-line after a series of second-by-second
expositions. The other thing on your priority list is trying to
torpedo someone's new venture by a series of assinine posts.

Whatever floats yer boat, Scott.

[MiNE 109]

In article >, trotsky >
wrote:

> MiNE 109 wrote:
> > In article >,
> > The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:50:20 +0000, The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Do you have an inventory of Greg's possessions?
> >>>
> >>>Sure. He's giving the effetre dalek even more balls.
> >>
> >>Er. And the link is:
> >>
> >>http://www.drawntotheflame.com/Beads.html
> >
> >
> > I like the attached ones.
>
>
> Wishful thinking.
>

This has my name in it, but it reminded me of you:

http://www.geocities.com/mmemym/bits4/fal0203.htm

[ScottW]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:42:16 -0800, "ScottW" >

> No, your priority list at the moment includes getting all ticked off
> because I made a comment that perhaps you should take a very limited
> interest subject off-line after a series of second-by-second
> expositions.

Schools are closed again tomorrow in SD county.
Julian and Cuyamaca (mountain communities) are
evacuated and under severe threat. Structures have
been burned but no count is available.

> The other thing on your priority list is trying to
> torpedo someone's new venture by a series of assinine posts.

There ya go, taking RAO seriously again.

ScottW

[Nexus 6]

Langis wrote:

> "ScottW" > wrote:
>
>
>>>> I though you were looking for cash.
>>>> Try your pawnshop.
>>>
>>>A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!
>>
>>I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
>>enough money to redeem his ticket.
>>Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
>>I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?
>
>
> This stream-of-consciousness stuff is quite tedious. If you're going
> to do that - will you please try to think more clearly.

<chuckle>

Nexus 6

[Arny Krueger]

"dave weil" > wrote in message

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:02:02 -0800, "ScottW" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:50:53 -0800, "ScottW" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Langis" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "ScottW" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I though you were looking for cash.
>>>>>> Try your pawnshop.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Chord pre-amp is hardly pawnshop material!
>>>>
>>>> I suppose you're right. He really has no hope of making
>>>> enough money to redeem his ticket.
>>>> Outright sale would be the best approach. But that will take time.
>>>> I wonder if Trots is going the auction route again?
>>>>
>>>> ScottW
>>>
>>> I hope you suffer no misfortunes, Scott.
>>>
>>> <s******>
>>>
>>> See Art and Marc, this is the reason that I think that Scott is a
>>> piece of slime.
>>
>> Taking the group a little too seriously again.
>>
>>> This doesn't mean that I don't think you should be
>>> friends with him though.
>>
>> You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
>> because I speculate on Trots speaker business
>
> You've done more than "speculate" on Greg's business and you know it.
>
> Stop being so disengenuous.
>
> Oh wait, for you, that's impossible.

Scott is quite the hypocrite, isn't he?

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
news:M1Enb.45904$gi2.7451@fed1read01
> "dave weil" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>
>>> You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
>>> because I speculate on Trots speaker business
>>
>> You've done more than "speculate" on Greg's business and you know it.
>>
>> Stop being so disengenuous.
>>
>> Oh wait, for you, that's impossible.
>>
>>> which you've been doing to at least equal degree if not more.
>>
>> I disagree.
>>
>
> Too bad. I have no interest in embarking on a 40 post
> thread of who said what when for which you seem to live
> for. Gaining your agreement isn't making my priority list
> today.

Nice job of dissembling Scott. It's not disingenuous for you at all!

[Joseph Oberlander]

Langis wrote:

> The example you give is not analagous.

Why not? $400-$600 is all he can get on Audiogon, afterall.
He's not sold one at his retail pricing, but so far has sold
at least two for a lower cost.

If he lowers the cost enough, they will fly out of his garage
and he'll make at least as much money. Of course, he'd likely
have to hire an expert to figure out where the breakpoints
are.

Oh - wait - he didn't do that? Another step ion the process
he missed - he never bothered to ask a professional to examine
them and figure out what their pricing should be. He just picked
a number out of his all-too-fuzzy head.

[trotsky]

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> Langis wrote:
>
>> The example you give is not analagous.
>
>
> Why not? $400-$600 is all he can get on Audiogon, afterall.
> He's not sold one at his retail pricing, but so far has sold
> at least two for a lower cost.
>
> If he lowers the cost enough, they will fly out of his garage
> and he'll make at least as much money. Of course, he'd likely
> have to hire an expert to figure out where the breakpoints
> are.
>
> Oh - wait - he didn't do that? Another step ion the process
> he missed - he never bothered to ask a professional to examine
> them and figure out what their pricing should be. He just picked
> a number out of his all-too-fuzzy head.


Should I choose to go through a traditional dealer network, the speakers
are under priced. Why do you continue to talk out of your ass in this
manner?

[Joseph Oberlander]

trotsky wrote:

>
>
> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>
>> Langis wrote:
>>
>>> The example you give is not analagous.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not? $400-$600 is all he can get on Audiogon, afterall.
>> He's not sold one at his retail pricing, but so far has sold
>> at least two for a lower cost.
>>
>> If he lowers the cost enough, they will fly out of his garage
>> and he'll make at least as much money. Of course, he'd likely
>> have to hire an expert to figure out where the breakpoints
>> are.
>>
>> Oh - wait - he didn't do that? Another step ion the process
>> he missed - he never bothered to ask a professional to examine
>> them and figure out what their pricing should be. He just picked
>> a number out of his all-too-fuzzy head.
>
>
>
> Should I choose to go through a traditional dealer network, the speakers
> are under priced. Why do you continue to talk out of your ass in this
> manner?

Heh. Good luck making more than $400-$600 once a dealer network gets
through with you.

In any case, it's a moot point. You plainly have stated that you plan to
sell direct.

[ScottW]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "ScottW" > wrote in message
> news:M1Enb.45904$gi2.7451@fed1read01
> > "dave weil" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>>
> >>> You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
> >>> because I speculate on Trots speaker business
> >>
> >> You've done more than "speculate" on Greg's business and you know it.
> >>
> >> Stop being so disengenuous.
> >>
> >> Oh wait, for you, that's impossible.
> >>
> >>> which you've been doing to at least equal degree if not more.
> >>
> >> I disagree.
> >>
> >
> > Too bad. I have no interest in embarking on a 40 post
> > thread of who said what when for which you seem to live
> > for. Gaining your agreement isn't making my priority list
> > today.
>
> Nice job of dissembling Scott. It's not disingenuous for you at all!

I suggest you take it up with Dave. Perhaps you can break your longest
post with no new content records. Who won BTW?

ScottW

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
news:8x%nb.46675$gi2.43620@fed1read01
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>> news:M1Enb.45904$gi2.7451@fed1read01
>>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> You're trying to rationalize not caring if my house burns
>>>>> because I speculate on Trots speaker business
>>>>
>>>> You've done more than "speculate" on Greg's business and you know
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Stop being so disengenuous.
>>>>
>>>> Oh wait, for you, that's impossible.
>>>>
>>>>> which you've been doing to at least equal degree if not more.
>>>>
>>>> I disagree.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Too bad. I have no interest in embarking on a 40 post
>>> thread of who said what when for which you seem to live
>>> for. Gaining your agreement isn't making my priority list
>>> today.
>>
>> Nice job of dissembling Scott. It's not disingenuous for you at all!
>
> I suggest you take it up with Dave. Perhaps you can break your
> longest post with no new content records. Who won BTW?

Marc Phillips with sockpuppet Yustabe in second place.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "ScottW" > wrote in message
> news:8x%nb.46675$gi2.43620@fed1read01

> >
> > I suggest you take it up with Dave. Perhaps you can break your
> > longest post with no new content records. Who won BTW?
>
> Marc Phillips with sockpuppet Yustabe in second place.
>
>

My posts are concise. Ususally about this long.
Stop lying, Arny.




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[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>> news:8x%nb.46675$gi2.43620@fed1read01
>
>>>
>>> I suggest you take it up with Dave. Perhaps you can break your
>>> longest post with no new content records. Who won BTW?
>>
>> Marc Phillips with sockpuppet Yustabe in second place.

> My posts are concise.

That can't compensate for the lack of content.

> Ususally about this long.

That can't compensate for the lack of content.

> Stop lying, Arny.

Silly accusations can't compensate for the lack of content, either.

[Annika1980]

Looks like it's a bad year to be a gay dwarf.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Annika1980" > wrote in message
...
> Looks like it's a bad year to be a gay dwarf.

Can't land a tossing gig?




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