Gerg's Jupitor Audio Madisound Speakers--the first sale! [Archive]

Michael Mckelvy

October 22nd 03, 03:14 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
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>
>
> Arny Krueger wrote:
> > "trotsky" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> >>The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
> >>
> >>>http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?spkrmoni&1066786686
> >>>
> >>>Well, they're at $430 now--and 1 hour to go.
> >>>
> >>>Comments, Gerg?
> >>
> >>
> >>Yeah--Arnie Chinta gave me the right advice.
> >
> >
> > Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg?
>
>
> I spent several hours on the phone with the guy. A lot of things were
> discussed. One was that some guys who are regular advertisers on
> Audiogon do all of their biz through auctions. If that's what it takes
> to create a buzz about the speakers, so be it.
>
You don't get, there already is a buzz. Some idiot is trying to sell a
$450.00 speaker for $1300.00.

Either that or it's something like, "That obnoxious Singh ****er is trying
to foist some **** on the public."

ScottW

October 22nd 03, 03:24 AM

"The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:15:07 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
> >"trotsky" > wrote in message
>
> >> The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
> >>> http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?spkrmoni&1066786686
> >>>
> >>> Well, they're at $430 now--and 1 hour to go.
> >>>
> >>> Comments, Gerg?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah--Arnie Chinta gave me the right advice.
> >
> >Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg
>
> Please don't close the auction--I'll lose my commission.

I suggest we report the sale to his unemployment office and share the good
news.

ScottW

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra

October 22nd 03, 03:31 AM

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:24:04 -0700, "ScottW" >
wrote:

> I suggest we report the sale to his unemployment office and share the good
>news.

Agree or disagree, Greg?

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td

P.S. I don't actually agree. But, as usual, you won't have to work
hard to persuade me I'm wrong.

ScottW

October 22nd 03, 03:33 AM

"The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:24:04 -0700, "ScottW" >
> wrote:
>
> > I suggest we report the sale to his unemployment office and share the
good
> >news.
>
> Agree or disagree, Greg?
>
> --
> td
>
> P.S. I don't actually agree. But, as usual, you won't have to work
> hard to persuade me I'm wrong.

Greg has said he would like to lower the budget deficit.

ScottW

Lionel

October 22nd 03, 07:05 AM

trotsky wrote:
>
>
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>> "trotsky" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?spkrmoni&1066786686
>>>>
>>>> Well, they're at $430 now--and 1 hour to go.
>>>>
>>>> Comments, Gerg?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah--Arnie Chinta gave me the right advice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg?
>
>
>
> I spent several hours on the phone with the guy. A lot of things were
> discussed. One was that some guys who are regular advertisers on
> Audiogon do all of their biz through auctions. If that's what it takes
> to create a buzz about the speakers, so be it.
>

So what is the more difficult ?
To make a biz buzz or to make a buzz biz ?

Arny Krueger

October 22nd 03, 11:36 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message

> Arny Krueger wrote:

>> Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg?

> I spent several hours on the phone with the guy. A lot of things were
> discussed. One was that some guys who are regular advertisers on
> Audiogon do all of their biz through auctions. If that's what it
> takes to create a buzz about the speakers, so be it.

There's a pretty good precedent for this approach on eBay. Probably good
advice.

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 01:13 PM

ScottW wrote:
> "The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra" > wrote in message
> news:msmbpv0igi1igif1pu3uci1sp9lq3sil50@rdmzrnewst xt.nz...
>
>>On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:15:07 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"trotsky" > wrote in message

>>>
>>>>The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?spkrmoni&1066786686
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, they're at $430 now--and 1 hour to go.
>>>>>
>>>>>Comments, Gerg?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yeah--Arnie Chinta gave me the right advice.
>>>
>>>Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg
>>
>>Please don't close the auction--I'll lose my commission.
>
>
> I suggest we report the sale to his unemployment office and share the good
> news.

Yeah, that should cover the thousands I shelled out to start the business.

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 01:17 PM

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:24:04 -0700, "ScottW" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>I suggest we report the sale to his unemployment office and share the good
>>news.
>
>
> Agree or disagree, Greg?
>
> --
> td
>
> P.S. I don't actually agree. But, as usual, you won't have to work
> hard to persuade me I'm wrong.

Do what you want, Dev--you're an anonymouse. In Scottie's case I know
his last name and where he works. For some reason you guys are
desperate to take this stuff outside the group.

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 01:21 PM

Langis wrote:
> trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg?
>>
>>I spent several hours on the phone with the guy. A lot of things were
>>discussed. One was that some guys who are regular advertisers on
>>Audiogon do all of their biz through auctions. If that's what it takes
>>to create a buzz about the speakers, so be it.
>
>
> Good luck with that, Greg. After a few sales you should also have a
> guide price.

Thanks. When I get a little cash flow we can talk about me sending you
a pair to listen to if you're still interested.

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 01:29 PM

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
>
>
>>Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>
>>>Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg?
>
>
>>I spent several hours on the phone with the guy. A lot of things were
>>discussed. One was that some guys who are regular advertisers on
>>Audiogon do all of their biz through auctions. If that's what it
>>takes to create a buzz about the speakers, so be it.
>
>
> There's a pretty good precedent for this approach on eBay. Probably good
> advice.

I'm playing it by ear at this point. I figure eventually a critical
mass will be reached and word of mouth will take over.

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra

October 22nd 03, 03:00 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:21:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>> Good luck with that, Greg. After a few sales you should also have a
>> guide price.
>
>
>Thanks. When I get a little cash flow we can talk about me sending you
>a pair to listen to if you're still interested.

Oh, crap, now *there's* an offer . . .

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td

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra

October 22nd 03, 03:01 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:17:11 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>Do what you want, Dev--you're an anonymouse. In Scottie's case I know
>his last name and where he works. For some reason you guys are
>desperate to take this stuff outside the group.

Don't talk ********, Gerg. We may enjoy hating each other, but I think
you know I would never do anything like that.

--
td

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 03:22 PM

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:17:11 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>Do what you want, Dev--you're an anonymouse. In Scottie's case I know
>>his last name and where he works. For some reason you guys are
>>desperate to take this stuff outside the group.
>
>
> Don't talk ********, Gerg. We may enjoy hating each other, but I think
> you know I would never do anything like that.

I'm reasonably sure you wouldn't, but Scottie might and there are other
anony****s that might too. This is how the internet works: certain
guys, like me, have the balls to be themselves on the newsgroups, and
other simpering, sorry excuses for human beings try to make them pay a
price for it. I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
involvement, and now an asshole want to strip the tiny pittance I
receive for working in the first place? Does Scottie even imagine what
I might do when I've got nothing to lose?

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 03:25 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>involvement

You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
you were "laid off".

tor b

October 22nd 03, 03:35 PM

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message >...
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
>
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> >> Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg?
>
> > I spent several hours on the phone with the guy. A lot of things were
> > discussed. One was that some guys who are regular advertisers on
> > Audiogon do all of their biz through auctions. If that's what it
> > takes to create a buzz about the speakers, so be it.
>
> There's a pretty good precedent for this approach on eBay. Probably good
> advice.

Will Singh be content to sell these things for, say, $450 a pair?
That's probably what that market will bear for these things, both now
and in the future. After the cost of materials, website, advertising
(on Audiogon) and Audiogon or eBay fees, there won't be much left will
there? Once he goes off the dole, he'll need to get a job (I think
Best Buy and Circuit City will be hiring for the holiday season soon.
Think Singh can make it to Christmas without getting fired, er, I mean
'laid off'?)

Dogma4e

October 22nd 03, 03:47 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

> Does Scottie even imagine what
>I might do when I've got nothing to lose?
>

Oh, gerg. You always have your inflated ego to fall back on. It has
proven to be invincible to the harse effects of reality. Are you
telling us that losing $300 per week would drive you off the deep end?

Seriously, though, I'll bite: What *might* you do when you've got
nothing left to lose? Here are my guesses:

1) Kill yourself.

2) Muster all your will, write Scottie a *really, REALLY*
well-written and world class retort here at RAO, and then kill
yourself.

3) Hose Jocasta one more time, kill her, and then yourself.

4) Write a really nasty letter to Scott, threatening to kill him,
then kill yourself.

5) Ask S888wheel for the website where he downloaded free legal
forms, file a class action lawsuit against all sockpuppets and
anonymice, and then kill yourself.

6) Pretend it never happened, or that you were expecting it to
happen, or some other bull****, and then force Jocasta to work the
streets for an additional $300 per week.

George M. Middius

October 22nd 03, 03:53 PM

Gregipus Unemployicus whined:

> For some reason you guys are
> desperate to take this stuff outside the group.

Do keep us posted on where you end up in your next regular job, as
well as your current taste in flowers. There's a queer.

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra

October 22nd 03, 03:54 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>I'm reasonably sure you wouldn't, but Scottie might and there are other
>anony****s that might too. This is how the internet works: certain
>guys, like me, have the balls to be themselves on the newsgroups, and
>other simpering, sorry excuses for human beings try to make them pay a
>price for it.

<sigh>

If you say so, Greg.

>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>involvement, and now an asshole want to strip the tiny pittance I
>receive for working in the first place? Does Scottie even imagine what
>I might do when I've got nothing to lose?

Underneath everything, I still think you're a decent guy. Your mouth
will always be your undoing.

Take care.

--
td

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 04:51 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>>involvement
>
>
> You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
> you were "laid off".

Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
kind of makes *you* look bad.

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 04:53 PM

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>I'm reasonably sure you wouldn't, but Scottie might and there are other
>>anony****s that might too. This is how the internet works: certain
>>guys, like me, have the balls to be themselves on the newsgroups, and
>>other simpering, sorry excuses for human beings try to make them pay a
>>price for it.
>
>
> <sigh>
>
> If you say so, Greg.
>
>
>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>>involvement, and now an asshole want to strip the tiny pittance I
>>receive for working in the first place? Does Scottie even imagine what
>>I might do when I've got nothing to lose?
>
>
> Underneath everything, I still think you're a decent guy. Your mouth
> will always be your undoing.

And you're a writer?

Dogma4e

October 22nd 03, 04:56 PM

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 04:59 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>>>involvement
>>
>>
>> You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
>> you were "laid off".
>
>
>Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
> He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
>kind of makes *you* look bad.

I see. You are the only one who has a bull**** meter.

So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster? Or
maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
sales abilities?

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra

October 22nd 03, 05:00 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:53:56 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>And you're a writer?

No. I work in a fish and chip shop. Very flexible hours.

--
td

George M. Middius

October 22nd 03, 05:06 PM

Gregipus Uncomprehendicus swats at the pink dragonflies again.

> >>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
> >>involvement

> > You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
> > you were "laid off".

> Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
> He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
> kind of makes *you* look bad.

Apparently "bull****" is yet another word you don't understand.

George M. Middius

October 22nd 03, 05:24 PM

dave weil said to Gregipus:

> >>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
> >>>involvement

> So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
> you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster? Or
> maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
> internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
> sales abilities?

Inability to answer the question predicted. Cowardly copout of empty
insults expected. Accusations of lying anticipated.

Joe Duffy

October 22nd 03, 05:37 PM

In article >,
The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra > wrote:
>
>Underneath everything, I still think you're a decent guy. Your mouth

Well done!

>will always be your undoing.
>

You should know!

Joe

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 06:38 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>>>>involvement
>>>
>>>
>>>You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
>>>you were "laid off".
>>
>>
>>Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
>> He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
>>kind of makes *you* look bad.
>
>
> I see. You are the only one who has a bull**** meter.
>
> So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
> you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster?

I tried a Ouija board but got no answer. Also, if you ever decide to
grow up, you'll find that things often happen for a combination of reasons.

Or
> maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
> internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
> sales abilities?

I really don't know anybody that's better at selling audio than me.

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 06:39 PM

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:53:56 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>And you're a writer?
>
>
> No. I work in a fish and chip shop. Very flexible hours.

That much I believe. I assume you deal with the guys trolling for fish.

Lionel

October 22nd 03, 06:57 PM

trotsky wrote:

> dave weil wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> dave weil wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet involvement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
>>>> you were "laid off".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his
>>> doing. He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of
>>> "bull****" kind of makes *you* look bad.
>>
>>
>>
>> I see. You are the only one who has a bull**** meter.
>>
>> So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
>> you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster?
>
>
>
> I tried a Ouija board but got no answer. Also, if you ever decide to
> grow up, you'll find that things often happen for a combination of reasons.
>
>
> Or
>
>> maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
>> internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
>> sales abilities?
>
>
>
> I really don't know anybody that's better at selling audio than me.
>

You prove it yesterday !
LOL

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 06:59 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>dave weil wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>>>>>involvement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
>>>>you were "laid off".
>>>
>>>
>>>Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
>>> He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
>>>kind of makes *you* look bad.
>>
>>
>> I see. You are the only one who has a bull**** meter.
>>
>> So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
>> you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster?
>
>
>I tried a Ouija board but got no answer. Also, if you ever decide to
>grow up, you'll find that things often happen for a combination of reasons.

OK, so you were "laid off" for receiving flowers while posting on
USENET, forgetting to sell Reynaud speakers and refusing to sell
higher end Yamaha products.

Cool.

> Or
>> maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
>> internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
>> sales abilities?
>
>
>I really don't know anybody that's better at selling audio than me.

Heck, *anyone* can sell a $1600 pair of speakers for $450.

PS, I *refuse* to "grow up", as you put it. I don't want to be a dour
fat **** building speakers in my spare bedroom, if that's what
"growing up" entails.

Of course, you wouldn't want to be a measly waiter at almost 50 years
old either, so I suppose we're even.

PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
it involve live music at all?

Lionel

October 22nd 03, 07:04 PM

Nexus 6

October 22nd 03, 07:13 PM

dave weil wrote:

> PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
> tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
> it involve live music at all?

Who?

Nexus 6

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 07:18 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:13:47 -0500, Nexus 6 >
wrote:

>
>
>dave weil wrote:
>
>> PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
>> tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
>> it involve live music at all?
>
>Who?

Tommy Emmanuel

Of course, it wasn't me that called him that - it was Chet Atkins.

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra

October 22nd 03, 07:24 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:39:28 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>That much I believe. I assume you deal with the guys trolling for fish.

Thanks for being hilarious.

--
td

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 07:26 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>dave weil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>>>>>>involvement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
>>>>>you were "laid off".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
>>>>He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
>>>>kind of makes *you* look bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>I see. You are the only one who has a bull**** meter.
>>>
>>>So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
>>>you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster?
>>
>>
>>I tried a Ouija board but got no answer. Also, if you ever decide to
>>grow up, you'll find that things often happen for a combination of reasons.
>
>
> OK, so you were "laid off" for receiving flowers while posting on
> USENET, forgetting to sell Reynaud speakers and refusing to sell
> higher end Yamaha products.
>
> Cool.

It is cool. It's cool to see you consistently ignore facts, much like
your short lived attempt at audio reviewing.

>> Or
>>
>>>maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
>>>internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
>>>sales abilities?
>>
>>
>>I really don't know anybody that's better at selling audio than me.
>
>
> Heck, *anyone* can sell a $1600 pair of speakers for $450.

They can? I challenge anyone of you assholes to sell a pair of speakers
that nobody has ever heard before. Face it, dave, you're in a downward
spiral now, and simply can't stop lying at this point.

> PS, I *refuse* to "grow up", as you put it. I don't want to be a dour
> fat **** building speakers in my spare bedroom, if that's what
> "growing up" entails.

To each their own. Do you presume to know better about living your life
than me? Tell us about your work experience, coward. You're just a
****ing hypocrite, dave. You don't have the guts to divulge the name of
your place of work, but meanwhile since I'm stupid enough to tell you
about my experiences, you try to hang me for it. Do you believe I
actually forgot about your previous train wreck, I told you the
financial arrangement I had made to display product that I wanted to
sell, and you were trying to make fun of me while stating you worked
under the EXACT SAME ARRANGEMENT? The neurons just keep on misfiring
with you. I was stupid for ever giving you the benefit of the doubt.

> Of course, you wouldn't want to be a measly waiter at almost 50 years
> old either, so I suppose we're even.

I don't make fun of your profession--you should do likewise. You
especially don't have an excuse having heard how good the speakers are.

> PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
> tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
> it involve live music at all?

Yeah, all the greatest guitar players play for $15 cover charge. I've
already posted my partial list of live music I've attended, dave, and
with me the neurons fire correctly so I can take in what I've heard.

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 07:28 PM

Nexus 6 wrote:
>
>
> dave weil wrote:
>
>> PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
>> tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
>> it involve live music at all?
>
>
> Who?

I'm reminded of one of Mitch Pileggi's lines from "The X-Files": "These
people don't have names."

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 07:29 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:13:47 -0500, Nexus 6 >
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>dave weil wrote:
>>
>>
>>>PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
>>>tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
>>>it involve live music at all?
>>
>>Who?
>
>
> Tommy Emmanuel
>
> Of course, it wasn't me that called him that - it was Chet Atkins.

Did the words "chopped liver" come up when he was discussing Knopfler,
then?

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 07:39 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:26:18 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>> PS, I *refuse* to "grow up", as you put it. I don't want to be a dour
>> fat **** building speakers in my spare bedroom, if that's what
>> "growing up" entails.
>
>
>To each their own.

Yes, you just continue doing what you're doing.

>Do you presume to know better about living your life
>than me? Tell us about your work experience, coward.

We've been over this quite a few times.

Do you have any specific questions, *other* than the name of my
current employer?

Or do you think I'm lying about being a waiter?

<guffaw>

> You're just a
>****ing hypocrite, dave. You don't have the guts to divulge the name of
>your place of work, but meanwhile since I'm stupid enough to tell you
>about my experiences, you try to hang me for it.

That's *your* problem, not mine. I don't tell you to walk out in front
of a bus either. However, you probably have the sense not to do it,
right?

Quit whining. You have freely divulged information and now you claim
it has cost you. Is it any wonder that I don't follow your example?

>Do you believe I actually forgot about your previous train wreck, I told you the
>financial arrangement I had made to display product that I wanted to
>sell, and you were trying to make fun of me while stating you worked
>under the EXACT SAME ARRANGEMENT?

And yet, here I am, still slaving away (had a pretty good night last
night, thank you very much) and you couldn't hang.

<shrug>

Who looks like they know what they're doing?

> The neurons just keep on misfiring
>with you. I was stupid for ever giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Stupid *does* describe you. Thanks for the flash of self-awareness.

>> Of course, you wouldn't want to be a measly waiter at almost 50 years
>> old either, so I suppose we're even.
>
>
>I don't make fun of your profession--you should do likewise.

This is bull****, of course. You have made fun of my profession in the
past and you know it.

George M. Middius

October 22nd 03, 07:40 PM

The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra said:

> >That much I believe. I assume you deal with the guys trolling for fish.
>
> Thanks for being hilarious.

Interesting choice of word. "Hilarious" has been sullied ever since
Paula W. plastered it on Ferstler.

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 07:44 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:29:28 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:13:47 -0500, Nexus 6 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>dave weil wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
>>>>tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
>>>>it involve live music at all?
>>>
>>>Who?
>>
>>
>> Tommy Emmanuel
>>
>> Of course, it wasn't me that called him that - it was Chet Atkins.
>
>
>Did the words "chopped liver" come up when he was discussing Knopfler,
>then?

I don't know. I wasn't there when he made the comment. But since
Atkins played with Mark Knopfler, I'd say that Emmanuel is probably
damned good if Chet said that about him. We'll see tonight, now won't
we?

The only reason I'm going is to see a friend of mine open for him and
to take some pics of her performing. But I've heard about this guy for
years, so I'm intrigued.

Lionel

October 22nd 03, 08:20 PM

trotsky wrote:

> They can? I challenge anyone of you assholes to sell a pair of speakers
> that nobody has ever heard before.

I'm *sure that you have purchased your own speaker*.
Don't ask why but I am sure of that...

ScottW

October 22nd 03, 08:23 PM

trotsky > wrote in message .net>...

> > I suggest we report the sale to his unemployment office and share the good
> > news.
>
>
> Yeah, that should cover the thousands I shelled out to start the business.

So the business is started. Time to get off the public dole. Maybe
apply for a Norwegian small businees witchcraft loan if you need some
capital.

ScottW

ScottW

October 22nd 03, 08:36 PM

trotsky > wrote in message . net>...
> The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:17:11 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Do what you want, Dev--you're an anonymouse. In Scottie's case I know
> >>his last name and where he works. For some reason you guys are
> >>desperate to take this stuff outside the group.
> >
> >
> > Don't talk ********, Gerg. We may enjoy hating each other, but I think
> > you know I would never do anything like that.
>
>
> I'm reasonably sure you wouldn't, but Scottie might and there are other
> anony****s that might too.

Not my cup 'o tea. I don't threaten to call folks wives either.

> This is how the internet works: certain
> guys, like me, have the balls to be themselves on the newsgroups, and
> other simpering, sorry excuses for human beings try to make them pay a
> price for it.

You refuse to acknowledge that you attempt in every 3rd post to
dredge up a morsel of personal info so you can do exactly that. When
will you ever accept the disgusting depth of your own hypocrisy?

> I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
> involvement, and now an asshole want to strip the tiny pittance I
> receive for working in the first place? Does Scottie even imagine what
> I might do when I've got nothing to lose?

AAAaaaaawwwwWWW. I almost shed a tear. Then I realized, this is
Greg. The boy who will forever deny any personal responsibility for
his pathetic plight.

You should be happy you got $400 for your speakers and now working up
a plan to produce them profitably at that price.

ScottW

Lionel

October 22nd 03, 08:53 PM

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 10:42 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:26:18 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>PS, I *refuse* to "grow up", as you put it. I don't want to be a dour
>>>fat **** building speakers in my spare bedroom, if that's what
>>>"growing up" entails.
>>
>>
>>To each their own.
>
>
> Yes, you just continue doing what you're doing.

Great, I'm glad you approve--I was worried.

>>Do you presume to know better about living your life
>>than me? Tell us about your work experience, coward.
>
>
> We've been over this quite a few times.
>
> Do you have any specific questions, *other* than the name of my
> current employer?

Here's what I think, dave: if you were forthcoming, you would tell us
the name of the restaurant and what kind of place it is. What I think
is that it's one of Nashville's favorite yuppie hang outs, the kind of
place where people think that White Zinfandel is a legitimate kind of
drink, and abbreviate it into "White Zinf". What I think is this is the
last place you'd expect an ex DJ who is still pretending to embrace
the rock 'n' roll/Bohemian lifestyle to work. So we'll call this
pretense #1. Pretense #2 is that you know enough to keep *your* place
of work a secret, but have no problem dragging what I do through the mud
time and time again. Pretense #3 is that you don't want to accept that
you have a head full of swiss cheese, most probably from too many drugs
as part of your rock 'n' roll/Bohemian lifestyle full time days, and you
simply won't admit to having problems thinking and writing clearly.
Hence the debacle with your review attempt.

> Or do you think I'm lying about being a waiter?

I think you're about to lie about it not being pretentious as hell.

> <guffaw>

Funny, I don't find it the least bit funny.

>>You're just a
>>****ing hypocrite, dave. You don't have the guts to divulge the name of
>>your place of work, but meanwhile since I'm stupid enough to tell you
>>about my experiences, you try to hang me for it.
>
>
> That's *your* problem, not mine. I don't tell you to walk out in front
> of a bus either. However, you probably have the sense not to do it,
> right?

You're a hypocrite, dave. If you kept your trap shut you might have
something to say on this matter, but alas you did not.

> Quit whining. You have freely divulged information and now you claim
> it has cost you. Is it any wonder that I don't follow your example?

I can only call this the "Neighborhood Bully" syndrome.

>>Do you believe I actually forgot about your previous train wreck, I told you the
>>financial arrangement I had made to display product that I wanted to
>>sell, and you were trying to make fun of me while stating you worked
>>under the EXACT SAME ARRANGEMENT?
>
>
> And yet, here I am, still slaving away (had a pretty good night last
> night, thank you very much) and you couldn't hang.

Translation into English, please. I'm not up on the pseudo-Bohemian
pretentious bull****.

> <shrug>
>
> Who looks like they know what they're doing?

Not you, Mr. Rock 'n' Roller. "Hi, Elvis? I work in this super cool
yuppie restaurant, don't you think that's the bomb?" "No, dave. Sorry,
sounds like you joined the Goon Squad."

>> The neurons just keep on misfiring
>>with you. I was stupid for ever giving you the benefit of the doubt.
>
>
> Stupid *does* describe you. Thanks for the flash of self-awareness.

Really? Is there a particular subject you're referring to, or should we
wait until the neurons finally connect?

>>>Of course, you wouldn't want to be a measly waiter at almost 50 years
>>>old either, so I suppose we're even.
>>
>>
>>I don't make fun of your profession--you should do likewise.
>
>
> This is bull****, of course. You have made fun of my profession in the
> past and you know it.

Google references?

trotsky

October 22nd 03, 10:48 PM

ScottW wrote:
> trotsky > wrote in message . net>...
>
>>The Stainless Steel Boob Orchestra wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:17:11 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Do what you want, Dev--you're an anonymouse. In Scottie's case I know
>>>>his last name and where he works. For some reason you guys are
>>>>desperate to take this stuff outside the group.
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't talk ********, Gerg. We may enjoy hating each other, but I think
>>>you know I would never do anything like that.
>>
>>
>>I'm reasonably sure you wouldn't, but Scottie might and there are other
>>anony****s that might too.
>
>
> Not my cup 'o tea. I don't threaten to call folks wives either.

Yeah, that was particularly heinous. God, could you imagine if she just
hung up on me?

>> This is how the internet works: certain
>>guys, like me, have the balls to be themselves on the newsgroups, and
>>other simpering, sorry excuses for human beings try to make them pay a
>>price for it.
>
>
> You refuse to acknowledge that you attempt in every 3rd post to
> dredge up a morsel of personal info so you can do exactly that. When
> will you ever accept the disgusting depth of your own hypocrisy?

Everything I do is a retaliatory measure. Even if I said something
negative to you before you did to me, all you have to do is post the
contents of your brain to be insulting.

>> I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
>>involvement, and now an asshole want to strip the tiny pittance I
>>receive for working in the first place? Does Scottie even imagine what
>>I might do when I've got nothing to lose?
>
>
> AAAaaaaawwwwWWW. I almost shed a tear. Then I realized, this is
> Greg. The boy who will forever deny any personal responsibility for
> his pathetic plight.

Scott, I make one of the best sounding bookshelf speakers on the market,
and the single best sounding powered subwoofer on the market. How is
this a "pathetic plight"? Compare this with your personal
accomplishments if you want an exclamation point.

> You should be happy you got $400 for your speakers and now working up
> a plan to produce them profitably at that price.

Tip of the iceberg, Scottie. Keep on hanging on my every word and
action, I think it's cute.

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 11:25 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>Here's what I think, dave: if you were forthcoming, you would tell us
>the name of the restaurant and what kind of place it is. What I think
>is that it's one of Nashville's favorite yuppie hang outs, the kind of
>place where people think that White Zinfandel is a legitimate kind of
>drink, and abbreviate it into "White Zinf".

You would be wrong, of course.

It's actually a hangout more for the movers and shakers of the
Nashville community. If you want to call them yuppies, that's OK I
guess. But they are people who turn their nose up at White Zinfandel.
So, you can imagine all you want, but our clientele isn't what you
seem to think it is. More likely than not, they have larger wine
cellars than *we* do. I know that at least two of our regulars have
10,000+ bottle cellars. Sure, we sell a little white zinfandel on
occasion. But I haven't actually poured but a glass of White Zin for a
couple of months, even though I've probably had 6 or 7 people ask for
it. I always offer them an alternative, which they usually take.
Currently we have two such wines by the glass.

I've told you what type of place it is in the past, but that didn't
make much difference to you.

You don't have a *clue* about dining out, it seems, despite your
portly appearance. You have claimed to barely be able to afford to see
live music. And you want us to believe that you dine in the finest
restaurants and dine in such a wide variety of restaurants that you
can peg entire classes of diners by the power of your smashing
intellect. I really doubt that you have much room to speculate.

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 11:26 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:10 GMT, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

>Funny, I don't find it the least bit funny.

Of course you don't. That's because you're a humorless drudge.

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 11:32 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>>
>> This is bull****, of course. You have made fun of my profession in the
>> past and you know it.
>
>
>Google references?

> "But it wasn't. You've proved time and time again that you don't even
> know the bare basics of business. You should let your boss run things
> and stick to selling.

Yes, excellent. This from the waiter".

BTW, here's a cute blast from the past:

"I think if you saw the way I spend my day you would blow your mind.
I get to stay in tune by listening to 15,000 dollar audio systems and
watching/listening to 30,000 home theaters. It's kind of fun. Then I
generate the same level of enthusiasm in a potential customer and let
them in on the fun too. But, do tell, you are claiming you create fun
and excitement in people's lives? Are you high"?

Soooo, tell me Greggie, how are you spending your days now? Have you
changed your underwear today?

Lionel

October 22nd 03, 11:35 PM

dave weil wrote:

> You don't have a *clue* about dining out, it seems, despite your
> portly appearance. You have claimed to barely be able to afford to see
> live music. And you want us to believe that you dine in the finest
> restaurants and dine in such a wide variety of restaurants that you
> can peg entire classes of diners by the power of your smashing
> intellect. I really doubt that you have much room to speculate.

You are wrong Dave.
Yesterday he has sold his speakers for have today a diner in one of
those finest restaurants.
LOL.

dave weil

October 22nd 03, 11:36 PM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:47 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>Tip of the iceberg, Scottie.

Is Scottie your "special friend" Gary's pet name for you? Is this what
he says when you're playing catcher?

ScottW

October 23rd 03, 01:01 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
hlink.net...

> Everything I do is a retaliatory measure. Even if I said something
> negative to you before you did to me, all you have to do is post the
> contents of your brain to be insulting.

It is clear. You need to exit the group for your the sake of your
declining mental health.

> Scott, I make one of the best sounding bookshelf speakers on the market,
> and the single best sounding powered subwoofer on the market. How is
> this a "pathetic plight"?

This is just more of the usual Singh pompous trumpeting.
At present the market values your bookshelfs at $400 a pair and your sub
at $101.
Very impressive.

> Compare this with your personal
> accomplishments if you want an exclamation point.

My accomplishments at present include paying more in taxes every month
than you receive in public assistance. One could say I am paying your way
at the moment (or at least a piece of it). Personally, I hope you get off
your fat ass and do something about it.

ScottW

ScottW

October 23rd 03, 01:36 AM

"ScottW" > wrote in message
news:jTElb.32811$gi2.11825@fed1read01...
>
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
>
> > Everything I do is a retaliatory measure. Even if I said something
> > negative to you before you did to me, all you have to do is post the
> > contents of your brain to be insulting.
>
> It is clear. You need to exit the group for your the sake of your
> declining mental health.

uhhh...... that would be "exit the group for the sake of your declining
mental health".

I wouldn't want leave poor Greg confused.

ScottW

Michael Mckelvy

October 23rd 03, 01:51 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> Arny Krueger wrote:
> > "trotsky" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> >>Arny Krueger wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Exactly what advice did he give you, Greg?
> >
> >
> >>I spent several hours on the phone with the guy. A lot of things were
> >>discussed. One was that some guys who are regular advertisers on
> >>Audiogon do all of their biz through auctions. If that's what it
> >>takes to create a buzz about the speakers, so be it.
> >
> >
> > There's a pretty good precedent for this approach on eBay. Probably good
> > advice.
>
>
> I'm playing it by ear at this point.

Not a good idea given the unreliability of your ears.

I figure eventually a critical
> mass will be reached and word of mouth will take over.
>
That'll go something like, "don't buy these things unless you need some
expensive door stops."

Michael Mckelvy

October 23rd 03, 01:54 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> dave weil wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>dave weil wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
> >>>>involvement
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
> >>>you were "laid off".
> >>
> >>
> >>Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
> >> He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
> >>kind of makes *you* look bad.
> >
> >
> > I see. You are the only one who has a bull**** meter.
> >
> > So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
> > you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster?
>
>
> I tried a Ouija board but got no answer. Also, if you ever decide to
> grow up, you'll find that things often happen for a combination of
reasons.
>
>
> Or
> > maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
> > internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
> > sales abilities?
>
>
> I really don't know anybody that's better at selling audio than me.
>
Go back to the store, see who's still working and you'll have the answer.

Michael Mckelvy

October 23rd 03, 01:55 AM

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
> >dave weil wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>dave weil wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:22:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I'm already unemployed, possibly from my Usenet
> >>>>>involvement
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>You're pegging the bull**** meter now, if you want us to believe that
> >>>>you were "laid off".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ian Macdowell from the current films newsgroup claims it was his doing.
> >>> He might have been trolling, who knows. But your claim of "bull****"
> >>>kind of makes *you* look bad.
> >>
> >>
> >> I see. You are the only one who has a bull**** meter.
> >>
> >> So, which is it? You were laid off because of "the economy", or were
> >> you "laid off" because of some flowers sent by a USENET prankster?
> >
> >
> >I tried a Ouija board but got no answer. Also, if you ever decide to
> >grow up, you'll find that things often happen for a combination of
reasons.
>
> OK, so you were "laid off" for receiving flowers while posting on
> USENET, forgetting to sell Reynaud speakers and refusing to sell
> higher end Yamaha products.
>
> Cool.
>
> > Or
> >> maybe, were you "laid off" because of the time spent on your store's
> >> internet connection? Or were you "laid off" because of your sterling
> >> sales abilities?
> >
> >
> >I really don't know anybody that's better at selling audio than me.
>
> Heck, *anyone* can sell a $1600 pair of speakers for $450.
>
> PS, I *refuse* to "grow up", as you put it. I don't want to be a dour
> fat **** building speakers in my spare bedroom, if that's what
> "growing up" entails.
>
> Of course, you wouldn't want to be a measly waiter at almost 50 years
> old either, so I suppose we're even.
>
> PS, I'm going to see one of the greatest guitar players on the planet
> tonight for $15 at The Station Inn. What are *you* doing tonight? does
> it involve live music at all?

Probably not, but I predict there will be a "beat" involved.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 03:45 AM

dave weil wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>This is bull****, of course. You have made fun of my profession in the
>>>past and you know it.
>>
>>
>>Google references?
>
>
>>"But it wasn't. You've proved time and time again that you don't even
>>know the bare basics of business. You should let your boss run things
>>and stick to selling.
>
>
> Yes, excellent. This from the waiter".

Synapses are misfiring again, dave. I was bitching about your
profession giving you no concept of business acumen--that doesn't berate
the profession itself.

> BTW, here's a cute blast from the past:
>
> "I think if you saw the way I spend my day you would blow your mind.
> I get to stay in tune by listening to 15,000 dollar audio systems and
> watching/listening to 30,000 home theaters. It's kind of fun. Then I
> generate the same level of enthusiasm in a potential customer and let
> them in on the fun too. But, do tell, you are claiming you create fun
> and excitement in people's lives? Are you high"?
>
> Soooo, tell me Greggie, how are you spending your days now? Have you
> changed your underwear today?

Sooo, dave, when are you going to show where I said something derogatory
about waiting tables?

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 03:48 AM

dave weil wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:47 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>Tip of the iceberg, Scottie.
>
>
> Is Scottie your "special friend" Gary's pet name for you? Is this what
> he says when you're playing catcher?

dave, are you treating homosexuality as a joke, too?

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 03:51 AM

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
>
>
>>Everything I do is a retaliatory measure. Even if I said something
>>negative to you before you did to me, all you have to do is post the
>>contents of your brain to be insulting.
>
>
> It is clear. You need to exit the group for your the sake of your
> declining mental health.
>
>
>>Scott, I make one of the best sounding bookshelf speakers on the market,
>>and the single best sounding powered subwoofer on the market. How is
>>this a "pathetic plight"?
>
>
> This is just more of the usual Singh pompous trumpeting.
> At present the market values your bookshelfs at $400 a pair and your sub
> at $101.
> Very impressive.

Van Gogh never sold a painting in his entire life. Your point?

>>Compare this with your personal
>>accomplishments if you want an exclamation point.
>
>
> My accomplishments at present include paying more in taxes every month
> than you receive in public assistance. One could say I am paying your way
> at the moment (or at least a piece of it). Personally, I hope you get off
> your fat ass and do something about it.

They don't give out those Viagras for nuthin', that's fer sure.

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 04:37 AM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:48:30 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:47 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tip of the iceberg, Scottie.
>>
>>
>> Is Scottie your "special friend" Gary's pet name for you? Is this what
>> he says when you're playing catcher?
>
>
>
>dave, are you treating homosexuality as a joke, too?

Sure - why not?

Do you have the exclusive rights or something?

Or are you ****ed that I scooped your tell-all book?

BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau would
have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping harmonic-laden
versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).

Having said that, I'd rather have listened to 45 minutes of Mark
Knopfler personally.

And I was a little ticked off that his guitar was amplified a bit too
loud. This is two concerts in the past couple of months that was that
way (Al Stewart being the other). Untypical for Nashville (or at least
I hope that it doesn't signal a new unfortunate trend).

George M. Middius

October 23rd 03, 04:39 AM

Gay Gregipus flaps his limp wrists.

> > Is Scottie your "special friend" Gary's pet name for you? Is this what
> > he says when you're playing catcher?

> dave, are you treating homosexuality as a joke, too?

Once again, you've failed to understand what is perfectly plain: The
butt of the joke is you.

ScottW

October 23rd 03, 05:07 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
link.net...
> ScottW wrote:

> >>Scott, I make one of the best sounding bookshelf speakers on the
market,
> >>and the single best sounding powered subwoofer on the market. How is
> >>this a "pathetic plight"?
> >
> >
> > This is just more of the usual Singh pompous trumpeting.
> > At present the market values your bookshelfs at $400 a pair and your
sub
> > at $101.
> > Very impressive.
>
>
> Van Gogh never sold a painting in his entire life. Your point?

So you want to follow in the footsteps of Van Gogh? Makes sense. You sure
have the mental illness and problems with women. How do you plan to find
out if your speakers will have increased value, posthumously?

ScottW

Joseph Oberlander

October 23rd 03, 06:34 AM

ScottW wrote:

> This is just more of the usual Singh pompous trumpeting.
> At present the market values your bookshelfs at $400 a pair and your sub
> at $101.
> Very impressive.

Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the Sub.
That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 01:33 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:48:30 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:47 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tip of the iceberg, Scottie.
>>>
>>>
>>>Is Scottie your "special friend" Gary's pet name for you? Is this what
>>>he says when you're playing catcher?
>>
>>
>>
>>dave, are you treating homosexuality as a joke, too?
>
>
> Sure - why not?
>
> Do you have the exclusive rights or something?
>
> Or are you ****ed that I scooped your tell-all book?

No, but is did make me especially equipped to appreciate last night's
"South Park" episode on "metrosexuality". If it turned out Middius was
one of the crab people it wouldn't surprise me a bit.

> BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau would
> have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping harmonic-laden
> versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).

Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?

> Having said that, I'd rather have listened to 45 minutes of Mark
> Knopfler personally.

Who really is chopped liver compared to Atkins.

> And I was a little ticked off that his guitar was amplified a bit too
> loud. This is two concerts in the past couple of months that was that
> way (Al Stewart being the other). Untypical for Nashville (or at least
> I hope that it doesn't signal a new unfortunate trend).

Are you telling me Nashville is the concert mixing capitol of the world too?

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 01:34 PM

George M. Middius wrote:
>
> Gay Gregipus flaps his limp wrists.
>
>
>>>Is Scottie your "special friend" Gary's pet name for you? Is this what
>>>he says when you're playing catcher?
>
>
>
>>dave, are you treating homosexuality as a joke, too?
>
>
> Once again, you've failed to understand what is perfectly plain: The
> butt of the joke is you.

You are a crab person sockpuppet.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 01:36 PM

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> link.net...
>
>>ScottW wrote:
>
>
>>>>Scott, I make one of the best sounding bookshelf speakers on the
>
> market,
>
>>>>and the single best sounding powered subwoofer on the market. How is
>>>>this a "pathetic plight"?
>>>
>>>
>>> This is just more of the usual Singh pompous trumpeting.
>>> At present the market values your bookshelfs at $400 a pair and your
>
> sub
>
>>>at $101.
>>> Very impressive.
>>
>>
>>Van Gogh never sold a painting in his entire life. Your point?
>
>
> So you want to follow in the footsteps of Van Gogh? Makes sense.

If I could show one tenth of the genius he had doing anything I'd die
happy. Sounds like you've given up on aspiring to anything in life.

You sure
> have the mental illness and problems with women. How do you plan to find
> out if your speakers will have increased value, posthumously?

You tell me, limpy.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 01:37 PM

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> ScottW wrote:
>
>
>> This is just more of the usual Singh pompous trumpeting.
>> At present the market values your bookshelfs at $400 a pair and your sub
>> at $101.
>> Very impressive.
>
>
> Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the Sub.
> That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.

**** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 03:40 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>> BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau would
>> have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping harmonic-laden
>> versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>
>
>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?

You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
guitar?

It's a function of touching the string above a fret and simultaneously
plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a ringing or bell-like
tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric Johnson uses them a lot
as well. Probably the most famous example is the rather crude
application at the begining of Roundabout.

The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
fundamental tone of the string. There are several different harmonics
that you can create on each string, depending on the position of the
left and right hand. The most famous one (and easiest to do) is the
one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a second harmonic.

BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding the
fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.

Cool.

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 03:43 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>> Having said that, I'd rather have listened to 45 minutes of Mark
>> Knopfler personally.
>
>
>Who really is chopped liver compared to Atkins.

Emmanuel was closer to the mastery of the guitar of Atkins than
Knopfler, *that's* for sure. But it was as much "showing off" as
anything.

>> And I was a little ticked off that his guitar was amplified a bit too
>> loud. This is two concerts in the past couple of months that was that
>> way (Al Stewart being the other). Untypical for Nashville (or at least
>> I hope that it doesn't signal a new unfortunate trend).
>
>
>Are you telling me Nashville is the concert mixing capitol of the world too?

What I'm telling you is that it seems to be slipping a little.

Arny Krueger

October 23rd 03, 03:55 PM

"dave weil" > wrote in message

> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>>> BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau
>>> would have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping
>>> harmonic-laden versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>>
>>
>> Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>> trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>
> You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
> guitar?
>
> It's a function of touching the string above a fret and simultaneously
> plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a ringing or bell-like
> tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric Johnson uses them a lot
> as well. Probably the most famous example is the rather crude
> application at the begining of Roundabout.
>
> The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
> fundamental tone of the string. There are several different harmonics
> that you can create on each string, depending on the position of the
> left and right hand. The most famous one (and easiest to do) is the
> one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a second harmonic.
>
> BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding the
> fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.
>
> Cool.

Nicely stated. Singh really stuck his foot in *it* this time.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 04:39 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau would
>>>have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping harmonic-laden
>>>versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>>
>>
>>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>
>
> You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
> guitar?

Yeah, harmonics are a doubling in frequency. If multiple (fundamental)
frequencies are present, multiple harmonices are present. Lenny
might've been more accurate to say he had good fundamentals, and just
let the chips fall where they may.

> It's a function of touching the string above a fret and simultaneously
> plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a ringing or bell-like
> tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric Johnson uses them a lot
> as well. Probably the most famous example is the rather crude
> application at the begining of Roundabout.

That's cool. What does "lean bass" mean to the guitar heroes?

> The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
> fundamental tone of the string. There are several different harmonics
> that you can create on each string, depending on the position of the
> left and right hand. The most famous one (and easiest to do) is the
> one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a second harmonic.

I smell a train wreck.

> BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding the
> fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.

More of rao's "facts suck" policy, dave?

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 04:41 PM

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>
>
>>On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau
>>>>would have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping
>>>>harmonic-laden versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>>>
>>>
>>>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>>
>>You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
>>guitar?
>>
>>It's a function of touching the string above a fret and simultaneously
>>plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a ringing or bell-like
>>tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric Johnson uses them a lot
>>as well. Probably the most famous example is the rather crude
>>application at the begining of Roundabout.
>>
>>The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
>>fundamental tone of the string. There are several different harmonics
>>that you can create on each string, depending on the position of the
>>left and right hand. The most famous one (and easiest to do) is the
>>one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a second harmonic.
>>
>>BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding the
>>fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.
>>
>>Cool.
>
>
> Nicely stated. Singh really stuck his foot in *it* this time.

Krueger, you can't "create" harmonics, you ****ing idiot. That's what
you get for getting a degree out of a Cracker Jack box.

Dogma4e

October 23rd 03, 04:42 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>
>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>
>
Priceless!

Arny Krueger

October 23rd 03, 04:56 PM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
hlink.net
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau
>>>>> would have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping
>>>>> harmonic-laden versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>>> trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>>>
>>> You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
>>> guitar?
>>>
>>> It's a function of touching the string above a fret and
>>> simultaneously plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a
>>> ringing or bell-like tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric
>>> Johnson uses them a lot as well. Probably the most famous example
>>> is the rather crude application at the begining of Roundabout.
>>>
>>> The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
>>> fundamental tone of the string. There are several different
>>> harmonics that you can create on each string, depending on the
>>> position of the left and right hand. The most famous one (and
>>> easiest to do) is the one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a
>>> second harmonic.
>>>
>>> BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding
>>> the fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.
>>>
>>> Cool.

>> Nicely stated. Singh really stuck his foot in *it* this time.

> Krueger, you can't "create" harmonics, you ****ing idiot.

Yup, there's no such thing as nonlinear distortion.

> That's what you get for getting a degree out of a Cracker Jack box.

For a guy who brags about all the live concerts he attends Singh, you sure
are clueless about how musicians speak.

Oh that's right Singh, they keep idiots like you on the other side of the
lights from the musicians. Silly me!

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 05:06 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:39:27 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau would
>>>>have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping harmonic-laden
>>>>versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>>>
>>>
>>>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>>
>>
>> You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
>> guitar?
>
>
>Yeah, harmonics are a doubling in frequency.

Wrong. The first harmonic is. The subsequent ones aren't.

>If multiple (fundamental)
>frequencies are present, multiple harmonices are present.

And multiple harmonics are present even when there is a single
freuency present.

> Lenny might've been more accurate to say he had good fundamentals, and just let the chips fall where they may.

Whatever *that's* supposed to mean. If it was supposed to be clever,
it wasn't (or humorous either).

>> It's a function of touching the string above a fret and simultaneously
>> plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a ringing or bell-like
>> tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric Johnson uses them a lot
>> as well. Probably the most famous example is the rather crude
>> application at the begining of Roundabout.
>
>
>That's cool. What does "lean bass" mean to the guitar heroes?

It means a bass that is leaning to one direction.

>> The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
>> fundamental tone of the string. There are several different harmonics
>> that you can create on each string, depending on the position of the
>> left and right hand. The most famous one (and easiest to do) is the
>> one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a second harmonic.
>
>
>I smell a train wreck.

Yes, it came in your next sentence.

>> BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding the
>> fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.
>
>
>More of rao's "facts suck" policy, dave?

You said it, I just commented on it.

I can't help it if you can't communicate properly.

MiNE 109

October 23rd 03, 05:06 PM

In article .net>,
trotsky > wrote:

> Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
> trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?

http://www.cyberfretbass.com/techniques/harmonics/natural/index.php

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 05:07 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:41:08 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau
>>>>>would have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping
>>>>>harmonic-laden versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>>>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>>>
>>>You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
>>>guitar?
>>>
>>>It's a function of touching the string above a fret and simultaneously
>>>plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a ringing or bell-like
>>>tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric Johnson uses them a lot
>>>as well. Probably the most famous example is the rather crude
>>>application at the begining of Roundabout.
>>>
>>>The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
>>>fundamental tone of the string. There are several different harmonics
>>>that you can create on each string, depending on the position of the
>>>left and right hand. The most famous one (and easiest to do) is the
>>>one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a second harmonic.
>>>
>>>BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding the
>>>fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.
>>>
>>>Cool.
>>
>>
>> Nicely stated. Singh really stuck his foot in *it* this time.
>
>
>Krueger, you can't "create" harmonics, you ****ing idiot.

Sure you can. Unless you're saying that you can't create a note on a
guitar either.

>That's what you get for getting a degree out of a Cracker Jack box.

You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.

Dogma4e

October 23rd 03, 05:10 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:39:27 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>

>>
>> You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
>> guitar?
>
>
>Yeah, harmonics are a doubling in frequency.

Wrong, stupid! Any integer multiple of a fundamental frequency is a
harmonic.

>If multiple (fundamental)
>frequencies are present,

You don't have the slightest idea what a fundamental frequency is, do
you?

>
>I smell a train wreck.
>
Try bathing. Might help *some*...

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 05:22 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:06:36 -0500, dave weil >
wrote:

>>If multiple (fundamental)
>>frequencies are present, multiple harmonices are present.
>
>And multiple harmonics are present even when there is a single
>freuency present.

I should restate this - when there is a fundamental frequency (as
there is on a guitar string), multiple harmonics can be generated.
Some of them are called natural harmonics and others are called (I
think) false harmonics. I seem to remember that there are 3 natural
harmonics on each string (at the 5th 7th and 12th frets) and these are
the ones that ring the clearest. However, you can create other
"lesser" harmonics that aren't considered "true" harmonics. They don't
ring quite as true.

Also, "chicken-pickin' " is a form of harmonics as well as the sort of
tapping that Van Halen made his fortune on. But these aren't "natural
harmonics", as guitarists define them.

MiNE 109

October 23rd 03, 05:24 PM

In article . net>,
trotsky > wrote:

> dave weil wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau would
> >>>have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping harmonic-laden
> >>>versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
> >>
> >>
> >>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
> >>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
> >
> >
> > You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
> > guitar?
>
>
> Yeah, harmonics are a doubling in frequency. If multiple (fundamental)
> frequencies are present, multiple harmonices are present. Lenny
> might've been more accurate to say he had good fundamentals, and just
> let the chips fall where they may.

http://www.smu.edu/totw/overtone.htm

http://www.bsharp.org/physics/stuff/guitar.html

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 06:13 PM

MiNE 109 wrote:
> In article .net>,
> trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>
>
> http://www.cyberfretbass.com/techniques/harmonics/natural/index.php

That makes it sound like it's a technique unique to bass guitars, and
who knew there was a differentiation for "natural harmonics". Thanks
for participating in this train wreck, btw.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 06:15 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:41:08 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>>>"dave weil" > wrote in message

>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:33:13 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>BTW, Tommy Emmanuel is everything that Atkins said. Lenny Breau
>>>>>>would have been proud of his harmonics (he did jaw-dropping
>>>>>>harmonic-laden versions of Over the Rainbow and Michelle).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>>>>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>>>>
>>>>You don't know what "harmonics" refers to when talking about the
>>>>guitar?
>>>>
>>>>It's a function of touching the string above a fret and simultaneously
>>>>plucking the string in such a way as to achieve a ringing or bell-like
>>>>tone. Lenny Breau was a master of this. Eric Johnson uses them a lot
>>>>as well. Probably the most famous example is the rather crude
>>>>application at the begining of Roundabout.
>>>>
>>>>The name comes from the fact that you are creating a harmonic of the
>>>>fundamental tone of the string. There are several different harmonics
>>>>that you can create on each string, depending on the position of the
>>>>left and right hand. The most famous one (and easiest to do) is the
>>>>one that occurs at the twelfth fret - a second harmonic.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, that was a startling bit of self-awareness from you regarding the
>>>>fact that if it has to do with physics, you have no idea.
>>>>
>>>>Cool.
>>>
>>>
>>>Nicely stated. Singh really stuck his foot in *it* this time.
>>
>>
>>Krueger, you can't "create" harmonics, you ****ing idiot.
>
>
> Sure you can. Unless you're saying that you can't create a note on a
> guitar either.

You're on the wrong newsgroup, asshole. I'm sure there are plenty of
groups for wannabe musicians.

>>That's what you get for getting a degree out of a Cracker Jack box.
>
>
> You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.

Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.

George M. Middius

October 23rd 03, 06:27 PM

Gregipus graciously admits his errors.

> >>Krueger, you can't "create" harmonics, you ****ing idiot.

> > Sure you can. Unless you're saying that you can't create a note on a
> > guitar either.

> You're on the wrong newsgroup, asshole. I'm sure there are plenty of
> groups for wannabe musicians.

Translation: "Quit dumping ****ing garbage on my ****ing lawn, you
understand me?"

> >>That's what you get for getting a degree out of a Cracker Jack box.

> > You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.

> Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
> newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.

Translation: "I'm right because I say I'm right. I'm always right
about everything and everybody else is always wrong. **** you! ****
you! **** you!"

MiNE 109

October 23rd 03, 06:29 PM

In article . net>,
trotsky > wrote:

> MiNE 109 wrote:
> > In article .net>,
> > trotsky > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
> >>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
> >
> >
> > http://www.cyberfretbass.com/techniques/harmonics/natural/index.php
>
>
> That makes it sound like it's a technique unique to bass guitars, and
> who knew there was a differentiation for "natural harmonics". Thanks
> for participating in this train wreck, btw.

It works for any string instrument.

http://www.ccnmtl.columbia.edu/services/showcase/harmonic.html

"Artificial harmonics" is a technique better known to bowed string
instrument players that to guitarists.

Joseph Oberlander

October 23rd 03, 06:44 PM

trotsky wrote:

> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>
>> ScottW wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This is just more of the usual Singh pompous trumpeting.
>>> At present the market values your bookshelfs at $400 a pair and
>>> your sub
>>> at $101.
>>> Very impressive.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the Sub.
>> That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.
>
>
>
> **** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
>

Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for themselves.

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 06:46 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:13:29 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>MiNE 109 wrote:
>> In article .net>,
>> trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Harmonics are a function of physics, so I have no idea what you're
>>>trying to say. McElroy, can you translate?
>>
>>
>> http://www.cyberfretbass.com/techniques/harmonics/natural/index.php
>
>
>That makes it sound like it's a technique unique to bass guitars, and
>who knew there was a differentiation for "natural harmonics".

Oh bull****. Only *you* or Arnold could see this example of something
that tries to present itself as "exclusive" to the instrument that
it's talking about.

BTW, a bass guitar is still a guitar, you know.

And I guess *you* is the answer to your last statement/question.

> Thanks for participating in this train wreck, btw.

Funny, that's *exactly* what I was going to say to you.

Joe Duffy

October 23rd 03, 06:50 PM

In article >,
George M. Middius <glanbrok fifty-five at softhome.net change to 55> wrote:
>
>Gregipus graciously admits his errors.
>
>> Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
>> newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.
>
>Translation: "I'm right because I say I'm right. I'm always right
>about everything and everybody else is always wrong. **** you! ****
>you! **** you!"
>

Awww, come'on kiss and make up!
You two sound so much alike, you'd think
that you were much, much closer
at one time.

Joe

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 06:55 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:15:43 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>> You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.
>
>
>Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
>newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.

And you used it incorrectly. You need to go back and brush up on
Physics 101.

Besides, we were TALKING ABOUT GUITARS, you putz. That's why I said
that you're out of your element. You obviously don't know jack ****
about them.

And finally, the usual shorthand (both written and verbal) for White
Zinfandel is White Zin, not White Zinf. I've *never* heard it referred
to as such. Zin is also used as a verbal shorhand for Zinfandel, just
like Cab is used to desginate Cabernet Sauvignon.

PS, you seem to be fixated on the receiving end of anal penetration
these days. Maybe you should branch out and let your "special friend"
catch for a while. Or maybe you just like the role of "wifey".

George M. Middius

October 23rd 03, 07:00 PM

Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:

> >> Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the Sub.
> >> That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.

> > **** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.

> Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for themselves.

Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
from actual dealers?

BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or two
until he ****s on you again.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 08:49 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:15:43 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.
>>
>>
>>Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
>>newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.
>
>
> And you used it incorrectly. You need to go back and brush up on
> Physics 101.
>
> Besides, we were TALKING ABOUT GUITARS,

Right--guitars require the use of the word "harmonics" with only one
definition, the ad hoc one that musicians made up because they were
ignorant of that real definition. That's our dave, patron saint of the
ignorant.

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 09:10 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:49:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:15:43 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
>>>newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.
>>
>>
>> And you used it incorrectly. You need to go back and brush up on
>> Physics 101.
>>
>> Besides, we were TALKING ABOUT GUITARS,
>
>
>Right--guitars require the use of the word "harmonics" with only one
>definition, the ad hoc one that musicians made up because they were
>ignorant of that real definition.

What was that? *Your* FALSE definition? Could you be any more FULL OF
****?

>That's our dave, patron saint of the ignorant.

Try getting the definition of "harmonics" correct first before you
cast stones. You blew that one completely, you know.

BTW, if you even *know* any guitarists (which I doubt), try asking
them what harmonics means in the common language of guitarists.

I'm sorry that I assumed that you knew the language, since you are the
self-proclaimed mother****ing king of all musical knowledge.

You've probably never even *heard* Lenny Breau, so I don't know why
we're even talking at this point.

Joseph Oberlander

October 23rd 03, 09:36 PM

George M. Middius wrote:

>
> Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:
>
>
>>>>Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the Sub.
>>>>That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.
>
>
>>>**** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
>
>
>
>>Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for themselves.
>
>
> Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
> internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
> from actual dealers?
>
> BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or two
> until he ****s on you again.

I care not what comes from his orifices. I speak my own mind.

Audiogon has a HUGE retail and small firm section. - it's no longer
only used equipment. Note the Showcase Delaers link in the center of the
main page. As for Greg's speakers - they were as "new" as anything he's made so
far, so they do represent a fair price.

That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.

Lionel

October 23rd 03, 09:42 PM

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

>
> That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
>

What is astounding Joseph ?
Singh is purchasing his own products for the second time.
*This* is really astounding !

MiNE 109

October 23rd 03, 09:59 PM

In article . net>,
trotsky > wrote:

> dave weil wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:15:43 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.
> >>
> >>
> >>Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
> >>newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.
> >
> >
> > And you used it incorrectly. You need to go back and brush up on
> > Physics 101.
> >
> > Besides, we were TALKING ABOUT GUITARS,
>
>
> Right--guitars require the use of the word "harmonics" with only one
> definition, the ad hoc one that musicians made up because they were
> ignorant of that real definition. That's our dave, patron saint of the
> ignorant.
>

Dude, musicians were there before scientists.

http://www.lowbrassnmore.com/Monochord.htm

Joseph Oberlander

October 23rd 03, 10:39 PM

Lionel wrote:

> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>
>>
>> That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
>>
>
> What is astounding Joseph ?
> Singh is purchasing his own products for the second time.
> *This* is really astounding !

Well, I wasn't going to point out the obvious.

He *might* find a real buyer.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 11:24 PM

dave weil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:49:35 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:15:43 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
>>>>newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.
>>>
>>>
>>>And you used it incorrectly. You need to go back and brush up on
>>>Physics 101.
>>>
>>>Besides, we were TALKING ABOUT GUITARS,
>>
>>
>>Right--guitars require the use of the word "harmonics" with only one
>>definition, the ad hoc one that musicians made up because they were
>>ignorant of that real definition.
>
>
> What was that? *Your* FALSE definition? Could you be any more FULL OF
> ****?

I see, so now you're denying the working scientific definition of the
word. Makes perfect sense--not.

>>That's our dave, patron saint of the ignorant.
>
>
> Try getting the definition of "harmonics" correct first before you
> cast stones. You blew that one completely, you know.

Oh, of course. Anything to give you some wriggle room, you ****ing
weasel. Let me know when the neurons allow you to discuss the facts.

> BTW, if you even *know* any guitarists (which I doubt), try asking
> them what harmonics means in the common language of guitarists.

Go to the proper newsgroup, then. People that know audio have a pretty
good idea what harmonics are, and it has nothing to do with a fretboard.

> I'm sorry that I assumed that you knew the language, since you are the
> self-proclaimed mother****ing king of all musical knowledge.
>
> You've probably never even *heard* Lenny Breau, so I don't know why
> we're even talking at this point.

McElroy, have you heard of Lenny Breau?

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 11:25 PM

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> George M. Middius wrote:
>
>>
>> Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:
>>
>>
>>>>> Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the
>>>>> Sub.
>>>>> That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> **** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for
>>> themselves.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
>> internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
>> from actual dealers?
>>
>> BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or two
>> until he ****s on you again.
>
>
> I care not what comes from his orifices. I speak my own mind.
>
> Audiogon has a HUGE retail and small firm section. - it's no longer
> only used equipment. Note the Showcase Delaers link in the center of the
> main page. As for Greg's speakers - they were as "new" as anything he's
> made so far, so they do represent a fair price.
>
> That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
>

To a moron, sure.

trotsky

October 23rd 03, 11:27 PM

MiNE 109 wrote:
> In article . net>,
> trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:15:43 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
>>>>newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.
>>>
>>>
>>>And you used it incorrectly. You need to go back and brush up on
>>>Physics 101.
>>>
>>>Besides, we were TALKING ABOUT GUITARS,
>>
>>
>>Right--guitars require the use of the word "harmonics" with only one
>>definition, the ad hoc one that musicians made up because they were
>>ignorant of that real definition. That's our dave, patron saint of the
>>ignorant.
>>
>
>
> Dude, musicians were there before scientists.
>
> http://www.lowbrassnmore.com/Monochord.htm

Right. Drugs too.

MiNE 109

October 23rd 03, 11:48 PM

In article .net>,
trotsky > wrote:

> McElroy, have you heard of Lenny Breau?

I found him on the Station Inn website. I'd never heard of him before,
but I'm not a big fan of pop-country-folk guitar beyond the odd Fahey or
Kotke recording. This assumes Breau is in that style, of course.

I know what guitar fans mean when they mention harmonics, though. Ever
wonder how Steve Howe gets that cool sound at the beginning of
"Roundabout"?

Stephen

dave weil

October 23rd 03, 11:56 PM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:39 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>> What was that? *Your* FALSE definition? Could you be any more FULL OF
>> ****?
>
>
>I see, so now you're denying the working scientific definition of the
>word. Makes perfect sense--not.

So, are you saying that *your* definition was correct?

dave weil

October 24th 03, 12:06 AM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:39 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>> BTW, if you even *know* any guitarists (which I doubt), try asking
>> them what harmonics means in the common language of guitarists.
>
>
>Go to the proper newsgroup, then. People that know audio have a pretty
>good idea what harmonics are, and it has nothing to do with a fretboard.

Unless you're talking about GUITARS, you ****ing moron.

dave weil

October 24th 03, 12:11 AM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:48:28 GMT, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

>In article .net>,
> trotsky > wrote:
>
>> McElroy, have you heard of Lenny Breau?
>
>I found him on the Station Inn website. I'd never heard of him before,
>but I'm not a big fan of pop-country-folk guitar beyond the odd Fahey or
>Kotke recording. This assumes Breau is in that style, of course.

Actually, he was considered a jazz guitarist. That's why I'd assume
that Greg would have known about him. Of course, he died while Greg
was still only into Yes while putting rolled-up towels at the base of
the dorm room door.

>I know what guitar fans mean when they mention harmonics, though. Ever
>wonder how Steve Howe gets that cool sound at the beginning of
>"Roundabout"?

Yep. anyone who knows *anything* about guitars knows what's meant by
harmonics when it comes to guitars.

And guess what? It has everything to do with physics...it's not just a
made-up term.

ScottW

October 24th 03, 12:28 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> ScottW wrote:
> > So you want to follow in the footsteps of Van Gogh? Makes sense.
>
>
> If I could show one tenth of the genius he had doing anything I'd die
> happy.

Sounds like you have about 1/10th of his success with women. Happy now?

History tells us why Van Gogh painted. In contrast we know that Jupiter
Audio resulted from you inability to hold a job. Somehow I don't think the
results will ever be comparable.

> Sounds like you've given up on aspiring to anything in life.

Sounds like you failed at anything you aspired to in life.

>
>
> You sure
> > have the mental illness and problems with women. How do you plan to
find
> > out if your speakers will have increased value, posthumously?
>
>
> You tell me, limpy.

We shall conduct an internet seance. If you fail to receive the message,
don't blame us. It is God continuing your torment into the after life.

ScottW

trotsky

October 24th 03, 01:05 AM

MiNE 109 wrote:
> In article .net>,
> trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>McElroy, have you heard of Lenny Breau?
>
>
> I found him on the Station Inn website. I'd never heard of him before,
> but I'm not a big fan of pop-country-folk guitar beyond the odd Fahey or
> Kotke recording. This assumes Breau is in that style, of course.
>
> I know what guitar fans mean when they mention harmonics, though. Ever
> wonder how Steve Howe gets that cool sound at the beginning of
> "Roundabout"?

Not really. If I ever pick up an axe myself, maybe. I must say,
though, thus far you're doing an excellent job of being a weilpologist.

trotsky

October 24th 03, 01:07 AM

dave weil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:39 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>What was that? *Your* FALSE definition? Could you be any more FULL OF
>>>****?
>>
>>
>>I see, so now you're denying the working scientific definition of the
>>word. Makes perfect sense--not.
>
>
> So, are you saying that *your* definition was correct?

What, are those the only choices? McElroy does a much better job of
being a weilpologist than you.

trotsky

October 24th 03, 01:08 AM

dave weil wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:39 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>>BTW, if you even *know* any guitarists (which I doubt), try asking
>>>them what harmonics means in the common language of guitarists.
>>
>>
>>Go to the proper newsgroup, then. People that know audio have a pretty
>>good idea what harmonics are, and it has nothing to do with a fretboard.
>
>
> Unless you're talking about GUITARS, you ****ing moron.

Of course, and then harmonics that are a multiple of the fundamental
frequency cease to exist.

trotsky

October 24th 03, 01:13 AM

ScottW wrote:
> "trotsky" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
>
>>ScottW wrote:
>>
>>> So you want to follow in the footsteps of Van Gogh? Makes sense.
>>
>>
>>If I could show one tenth of the genius he had doing anything I'd die
>>happy.
>
>
> Sounds like you have about 1/10th of his success with women. Happy now?
>
> History tells us why Van Gogh painted. In contrast we know that Jupiter
> Audio resulted from you inability to hold a job. Somehow I don't think the
> results will ever be comparable.

That's interesting. I just finished building another sub today, and now
have a chance to hear the three piece combo., which I haven't had the
chance to do since I built the original models. I'm wondering if your
limp dick imagination even has the ability to conceive of how good the
sound quality is in my living room right now. I have some humility, and
hate to brag, but these speakers sound ****ing great.

>>Sounds like you've given up on aspiring to anything in life.
>
>
> Sounds like you failed at anything you aspired to in life.

And you're a father? That's sickening. "Kids, make sure you don't
aspire to anything in life."

>> You sure
>>
>>>have the mental illness and problems with women. How do you plan to
>
> find
>
>>>out if your speakers will have increased value, posthumously?
>>
>>
>>You tell me, limpy.
>
>
> We shall conduct an internet seance. If you fail to receive the message,
> don't blame us. It is God continuing your torment into the after life.

Is that humor? Rather flaccid, I must say.

George M. Middius

October 24th 03, 01:18 AM

Gregipus the Intellectual Property Thief fondles himself.

> you're doing an excellent job of being a weilpologist.

How dare you steal my intellectual property. What mother****ing nerve
you have. Take as long as you need. Your fork is done.

dave weil

October 24th 03, 01:33 AM

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:07:10 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>
>dave weil wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:39 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>What was that? *Your* FALSE definition? Could you be any more FULL OF
>>>>****?
>>>
>>>
>>>I see, so now you're denying the working scientific definition of the
>>>word. Makes perfect sense--not.
>>
>>
>> So, are you saying that *your* definition was correct?
>
>
>What, are those the only choices?

Why avoid the question? Is the answer just too painful?

dave weil

October 24th 03, 01:34 AM

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:08:22 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:39 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>BTW, if you even *know* any guitarists (which I doubt), try asking
>>>>them what harmonics means in the common language of guitarists.
>>>
>>>
>>>Go to the proper newsgroup, then. People that know audio have a pretty
>>>good idea what harmonics are, and it has nothing to do with a fretboard.
>>
>>
>> Unless you're talking about GUITARS, you ****ing moron.
>
>
>Of course, and then harmonics that are a multiple of the fundamental
>frequency cease to exist.

But you're wrong, of course.

What's new?

ScottW

October 24th 03, 04:38 AM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
link.net...
> ScottW wrote:
> I have some humility, and
> hate to brag, but these speakers sound ****ing great.

We know he is flat lying on 2 of 3 of these claims. Why break tradition
and actually get one right?

> >>Sounds like you've given up on aspiring to anything in life.
> >
> >
> > Sounds like you failed at anything you aspired to in life.
>
>
> And you're a father? That's sickening. "Kids, make sure you don't
> aspire to anything in life."

Kids, learn how to read critically. If you can't read critically and
comprehend, you probably won't be able to listen critically and get ripped
on some cheap poorly designed but overhyped speakers.

> >>>out if your speakers will have increased value, posthumously?
> >>
> >>
> >>You tell me, limpy.
> >
> >
> > We shall conduct an internet seance. If you fail to receive the
message,
> > don't blame us. It is God continuing your torment into the after life.
>
>
> Is that humor? Rather flaccid, I must say.

I am receiving requests from all over the planet to participate in an
effort to contact you after your death. This could be a Ripley's
qualifying event I tell you. You could actually get your name in a record
book. What's the matter? What happened to those balls of steel? What's
the problem?

Aren't you only one unemployment check away from nothing left to lose?

ScottW

Lionel

October 24th 03, 09:50 AM

trotsky wrote:

> I have some humility, and
> hate to brag, but these speakers sound ****ing great.

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Michael Mckelvy

October 24th 03, 11:40 PM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
link.net...
> dave weil wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:15:43 GMT, trotsky > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>You're out of your element here, Greg. Give up now.
> >>
> >>
> >>Oh, no doubt. I used the audio definition of an audio term on an audio
> >>newsgroup. Go **** yourself with a White Zinf bottle.
> >
> >
> > And you used it incorrectly. You need to go back and brush up on
> > Physics 101.
> >
> > Besides, we were TALKING ABOUT GUITARS,
>
>
> Right--guitars require the use of the word "harmonics" with only one
> definition, the ad hoc one that musicians made up because they were
> ignorant of that real definition. That's our dave, patron saint of the
> ignorant.
>
It's a term used by musicians, just lif "riff." Anybody who has ever played
a guitar knows what it means.

Michael Mckelvy

October 24th 03, 11:42 PM

"trotsky" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
> > George M. Middius wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the
> >>>>> Sub.
> >>>>> That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and
$250.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> **** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for
> >>> themselves.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
> >> internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
> >> from actual dealers?
> >>
> >> BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or two
> >> until he ****s on you again.
> >
> >
> > I care not what comes from his orifices. I speak my own mind.
> >
> > Audiogon has a HUGE retail and small firm section. - it's no longer
> > only used equipment. Note the Showcase Delaers link in the center of
the
> > main page. As for Greg's speakers - they were as "new" as anything he's
> > made so far, so they do represent a fair price.
> >
> > That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
> >
>
>
> To a moron, sure.
>
So you ARE astounded.

Gary Bishop

October 26th 03, 04:53 AM

Some people say red ones carry hotter signals but that blue are more
transparent? Would a purple cable be a better compromise. I guess it
also depends on what's inside the cable too.

Gary Bishop

October 26th 03, 04:55 AM

trotsky > wrote:

>Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>> George M. Middius wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the
>>>>>> Sub.
>>>>>> That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> **** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for
>>>> themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
>>> internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
>>> from actual dealers?
>>>
>>> BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or two
>>> until he ****s on you again.
>>
>>
>> I care not what comes from his orifices. I speak my own mind.
>>
>> Audiogon has a HUGE retail and small firm section. - it's no longer
>> only used equipment. Note the Showcase Delaers link in the center of the
>> main page. As for Greg's speakers - they were as "new" as anything he's
>> made so far, so they do represent a fair price.
>>
>> That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
>>
>
>
>To a moron, sure.

I am l;ooking for a subwoofer. What would you recommend. ?

George M. Middius

October 26th 03, 05:33 AM

Gary Bishop said:

> Some people say red ones carry hotter signals but that blue are more
> transparent? Would a purple cable be a better compromise. I guess it
> also depends on what's inside the cable too.

You should get the polka-dotted ones. Look high, look low.

Sockpuppet Yustabe

October 26th 03, 06:23 AM

"Gary Bishop" > wrote in message
...
> Some people say red ones carry hotter signals but that blue are more
> transparent? Would a purple cable be a better compromise. I guess it
> also depends on what's inside the cable too.

Depends on the color of your amp

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October 26th 03, 06:30 AM

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Gary Bishop said:
>
> > Some people say red ones carry hotter signals but that blue are more
> > transparent? Would a purple cable be a better compromise. I guess it
> > also depends on what's inside the cable too.
>
> You should get the polka-dotted ones. Look high, look low.
>

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October 26th 03, 09:06 AM

Gary Bishop wrote:

> Some people say red ones carry hotter signals but that blue are more
> transparent? Would a purple cable be a better compromise. I guess it
> also depends on what's inside the cable too.

<Arny, type your message in here. When you are finished hit send.>

Lionel

October 26th 03, 09:07 AM

Gary Bishop wrote:

> trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>>
>>>George M. Middius wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the
>>>>>>>Sub.
>>>>>>>That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>**** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for
>>>>>themselves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
>>>>internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
>>>>from actual dealers?
>>>>
>>>>BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or two
>>>>until he ****s on you again.
>>>
>>>
>>>I care not what comes from his orifices. I speak my own mind.
>>>
>>>Audiogon has a HUGE retail and small firm section. - it's no longer
>>>only used equipment. Note the Showcase Delaers link in the center of the
>>>main page. As for Greg's speakers - they were as "new" as anything he's
>>>made so far, so they do represent a fair price.
>>>
>>>That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
>>>
>>
>>
>>To a moron, sure.
>
>
> I am l;ooking for a subwoofer. What would you recommend. ?

<Trotsky, type your message in here. When you are finished hit send.>

Arny Krueger

October 26th 03, 11:44 AM

"Gary Bishop" > wrote in message

> trotsky > wrote:
>
>> Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>>> George M. Middius wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for
>>>>>>> the Sub.
>>>>>>> That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and
>>>>>>> $250.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> **** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
>>>> internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
>>>> from actual dealers?
>>>>
>>>> BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or
>>>> two until he ****s on you again.
>>>
>>>
>>> I care not what comes from his orifices. I speak my own mind.
>>>
>>> Audiogon has a HUGE retail and small firm section. - it's no longer
>>> only used equipment. Note the Showcase Delaers link in the center
>>> of the main page. As for Greg's speakers - they were as "new" as
>>> anything he's made so far, so they do represent a fair price.
>>>
>>> That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
>>>
>>
>>
>> To a moron, sure.
>
> I am looking for a subwoofer. What would you recommend. ?

First, try visiting an audio newsgroup.

trotsky

October 26th 03, 01:05 PM

Gary Bishop wrote:
> trotsky > wrote:
>
>
>>Joseph Oberlander wrote:
>>
>>>George M. Middius wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Obie Wanna Bucket of Clues said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, to be fair, auctions are rough. Figure $450 and $300 for the
>>>>>>>Sub.
>>>>>>>That's about what they are worth. Auction? Closer to $400 and $250.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>**** off, you trolling pedophilic piece of ****.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Given a choice to pay what they wanted to - the results speak for
>>>>>themselves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you believe there's a difference between people who shop on
>>>>internet sites that specialize in used equipment and those who buy
>>>>from actual dealers?
>>>>
>>>>BTW, way to prop up the Krooborg. I'm sure it'll only be a week or two
>>>>until he ****s on you again.
>>>
>>>
>>>I care not what comes from his orifices. I speak my own mind.
>>>
>>>Audiogon has a HUGE retail and small firm section. - it's no longer
>>>only used equipment. Note the Showcase Delaers link in the center of the
>>>main page. As for Greg's speakers - they were as "new" as anything he's
>>>made so far, so they do represent a fair price.
>>>
>>>That his subwoofer is approaching $400 is astounding.
>>>
>>
>>
>>To a moron, sure.
>
>
> I am l;ooking for a subwoofer. What would you recommend. ?

You're welcome to e-mail me if you want more details.