Re: Galapagos

[Arny Krueger]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message


> You can hammer away at Atkinson all you like, but I don't
> think you'll see much change.

I agree. Ultimately its introspection that causes people to
make big changes in their life.

> The number one
> consideration in the magazine business is survival.

I agree. If Stereophile cleans up their act, there will be
any number of pipers to pay.

> Stereophile is one of the few magazines that, if it does
> eventually discontinue, will be the victim of a paradigm
> shift, rather than mismanagement.

The paradigm shift is apparent. There's a lot less room for
Stereophile-style mystecism in the 21st century.
Stereophiles reader base has been baby boomers, and they are
getting old enough that audio is no longer a biggie for
them. They are starting to be buried. There just aren't a
lot of magazines subscriptions that are delivered to vaults
in graveyards, or even nursing homes.


> There is no Galapagos of publishing.

Say what? Galapagos in what sense - the common one of a
long-running bad idea that consumed massive resources and
finally collapsed?

[dave weil]

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:23:07 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>> There is no Galapagos of publishing.
>
>Say what? Galapagos in what sense - the common one of a
>long-running bad idea that consumed massive resources and
>finally collapsed?

He's referring to a refuge for animal lines with dead-end evolutionary
lines.

[Robert Morein]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:23:07 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
> >> There is no Galapagos of publishing.
> >
> >Say what? Galapagos in what sense - the common one of a
> >long-running bad idea that consumed massive resources and
> >finally collapsed?
>
> He's referring to a refuge for animal lines with dead-end evolutionary
> lines.

True, but I was really thinking of it as a place relatively free of modern
predators.
In a "Galapagos of publishing", a magazine would not need to compete.
It could simply continue to exist as long as there were some small species
of readers that supported it.

But Stereophile is not small. It is the Great White Shark of audio
publishing. It must swim and eat constantly, or it dies.

[Arny Krueger]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message


> In a "Galapagos of publishing", a magazine would not need
> to compete.

Agreed. As the largest ragazine in its niche, its main
competition comes from outside the niche.

> It could simply continue to exist as long as there were
> some small species of readers that supported it.

That species seems to be itself shrinking.

> But Stereophile is not small. It is the Great White Shark
> of audio publishing. It must swim and eat constantly, or
> it dies.

Magazines can shrink gracefully, AFAIK sharks can't.

[George Middius]

EnvyBorg whined:

>> But Stereophile is not small. It is the Great White Shark
>> of audio publishing. It must swim and eat constantly, or
>> it dies.

>Magazines can shrink gracefully, AFAIK sharks can't.

Too bad nobody on earth will pay a nickel for your useless ****ware, Snottyborg.

[Robert Morein]

"George Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> EnvyBorg whined:
>
> >> But Stereophile is not small. It is the Great White Shark
> >> of audio publishing. It must swim and eat constantly, or
> >> it dies.
>
> >Magazines can shrink gracefully, AFAIK sharks can't.
>
> Too bad nobody on earth will pay a nickel for your useless ****ware,
Snottyborg.
>
It's embarassing to have him agree with me.
It's like having one's philosophy hijacked by Nazis.

[George Middius]

Robert Morein said:

>> >> But Stereophile is not small. It is the Great White Shark
>> >> of audio publishing. It must swim and eat constantly, or
>> >> it dies.

>> >Magazines can shrink gracefully, AFAIK sharks can't.

>> Too bad nobody on earth will pay a nickel for your useless ****ware,
>> Snottyborg.

>It's embarassing to have him agree with me.
>It's like having one's philosophy hijacked by Nazis.

Krooger wasn't agreeing with you. He was doing his "been there done, that" dance
to "prove" that he would have been right if he'd said what he didn't say.

[Robert Morein]

"George Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Robert Morein said:
>
> >> >> But Stereophile is not small. It is the Great White Shark
> >> >> of audio publishing. It must swim and eat constantly, or
> >> >> it dies.
>
> >> >Magazines can shrink gracefully, AFAIK sharks can't.
>
> >> Too bad nobody on earth will pay a nickel for your useless ****ware,
> >> Snottyborg.
>
> >It's embarassing to have him agree with me.
> >It's like having one's philosophy hijacked by Nazis.
>
> Krooger wasn't agreeing with you. He was doing his "been there done, that"
dance
> to "prove" that he would have been right if he'd said what he didn't say.
>
Thank you. I feel better now.

[GeoSynch]

Robert Morein wrote:

> In a "Galapagos of publishing", a magazine would not need to compete.
> It could simply continue to exist as long as there were some small species
> of readers that supported it.

Oh, you mean sort-of like you and your old man, who's been taking care
of you for the last 50 or so years, sheltering and protecting you from
having to compete for sustenance and survival? It's a jungle out there.


GeoSynch

[Robert Morein]

"GeoSynch" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Robert Morein wrote:
>
> > In a "Galapagos of publishing", a magazine would not need to compete.
> > It could simply continue to exist as long as there were some small
species
> > of readers that supported it.
>
> Oh, you mean sort-of like you and your old man, who's been taking care
> of you for the last 50 or so years, sheltering and protecting you from
> having to compete for sustenance and survival? It's a jungle out there.
>
>
> GeoSynch
>
No one knows what I do. I'm sorry, but it has to stay that way.

[Jon Yaeger]

in article , Robert Morein at
wrote on 9/13/05 10:03 PM:

>
> "GeoSynch" > wrote in message
> link.net...
>> Robert Morein wrote:
>>
>>> In a "Galapagos of publishing", a magazine would not need to compete.
>>> It could simply continue to exist as long as there were some small
> species
>>> of readers that supported it.
>>
>> Oh, you mean sort-of like you and your old man, who's been taking care
>> of you for the last 50 or so years, sheltering and protecting you from
>> having to compete for sustenance and survival? It's a jungle out there.
>>
>>
>> GeoSynch
>>
> No one knows what I do. I'm sorry, but it has to stay that way.
>
>



Bob has nothing better to do than wage one of the most pointless feuds in
Newsgroup history with Brian McCarty on rec.audio.marketplace.

You waste bandwidth, Bob. That's what you do.

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...

> I agree. Ultimately its introspection that causes people to make big
> changes in their life.
>

What kind of introspection turned your life
into the sordid mess it is? Or were you born with
such despicable character traits?

[Clyde Slick]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message
...
>
> "GeoSynch" > wrote in message
> link.net...
>> Robert Morein wrote:
>>
>> > In a "Galapagos of publishing", a magazine would not need to compete.
>> > It could simply continue to exist as long as there were some small
> species
>> > of readers that supported it.
>>
>> Oh, you mean sort-of like you and your old man, who's been taking care
>> of you for the last 50 or so years, sheltering and protecting you from
>> having to compete for sustenance and survival? It's a jungle out there.
>>
>>
>> GeoSynch
>>
> No one knows what I do. I'm sorry, but it has to stay that way.
>


We already know what you do.
You write rejected screenplays.

[Robert Morein]

"Jon Yaeger" > wrote in message
...
> in article , Robert Morein at
> wrote on 9/13/05 10:03 PM:
[snip]
>
> Bob has nothing better to do than wage one of the most pointless feuds in
> Newsgroup history with Brian McCarty on rec.audio.marketplace.
>
> You waste bandwidth, Bob. That's what you do.
>
Jon,
"Bandwidth waste" has not been a consideration with usenet text posts
for some years ago. It's a straw horse, a joke. Text posting consumes an
immeasurably small fraction of internet bandwidth. As far as usenet
bandwidth, binary posts consume many orders of magnitude more bandwidth than
text posts.

So your point, John, is BULL****.

PS: You're wasting bandwidth.

[Jon Yaeger]

in article , Robert Morein at
wrote on 9/13/05 10:49 PM:

>
> "Jon Yaeger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> in article , Robert Morein at
>> wrote on 9/13/05 10:03 PM:
> [snip]
>>
>> Bob has nothing better to do than wage one of the most pointless feuds in
>> Newsgroup history with Brian McCarty on rec.audio.marketplace.
>>
>> You waste bandwidth, Bob. That's what you do.
>>
> Jon,
> "Bandwidth waste" has not been a consideration with usenet text posts
> for some years ago. It's a straw horse, a joke. Text posting consumes an
> immeasurably small fraction of internet bandwidth. As far as usenet
> bandwidth, binary posts consume many orders of magnitude more bandwidth than
> text posts.
>
> So your point, John, is BULL****.
>
> PS: You're wasting bandwidth.


You really are pathetic, Morein. First you say you are not wasting
bandwidth the claim I am. What a moron.

[George M. Middius]

Clyde Slick said to the Big ****:

> What kind of introspection turned your life
> into the sordid mess it is? Or were you born with
> such despicable character traits?

Easy to answer that one:

> When I was 15 a man who seemed nice, suggested that I do a
> few things with him, and "I'd never go back to women".

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.opinion/msg/c7e725387de4caba

[Robert Morein]

"Jon Yaeger" > wrote in message
...
> in article , Robert Morein at
> wrote on 9/13/05 10:49 PM:
>
> >
> > "Jon Yaeger" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> in article , Robert Morein at
> >> wrote on 9/13/05 10:03 PM:
> > [snip]
> >>
> >> Bob has nothing better to do than wage one of the most pointless feuds
in
> >> Newsgroup history with Brian McCarty on rec.audio.marketplace.
> >>
> >> You waste bandwidth, Bob. That's what you do.
> >>
> > Jon,
> > "Bandwidth waste" has not been a consideration with usenet text
posts
> > for some years ago. It's a straw horse, a joke. Text posting consumes an
> > immeasurably small fraction of internet bandwidth. As far as usenet
> > bandwidth, binary posts consume many orders of magnitude more bandwidth
than
> > text posts.
> >
> > So your point, John, is BULL****.
> >
> > PS: You're wasting bandwidth.
>
>
> You really are pathetic, Morein. First you say you are not wasting
> bandwidth the claim I am. What a moron.
>
I am being ironic, Jon. Neither of us can "waste" bandwidth. The capacity of
the internet has expanded several orders of magnitude since bandwidth was an
issue.
PS: You're still wasting bandwidth.

[Clyde Slick]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jon Yaeger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> in article , Robert Morein at
>> wrote on 9/13/05 10:49 PM:
>>
>> >
>> > "Jon Yaeger" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> in article , Robert Morein at
>> >> wrote on 9/13/05 10:03 PM:
>> > [snip]
>> >>
>> >> Bob has nothing better to do than wage one of the most pointless feuds
> in
>> >> Newsgroup history with Brian McCarty on rec.audio.marketplace.
>> >>
>> >> You waste bandwidth, Bob. That's what you do.
>> >>
>> > Jon,
>> > "Bandwidth waste" has not been a consideration with usenet text
> posts
>> > for some years ago. It's a straw horse, a joke. Text posting consumes
>> > an
>> > immeasurably small fraction of internet bandwidth. As far as usenet
>> > bandwidth, binary posts consume many orders of magnitude more bandwidth
> than
>> > text posts.
>> >
>> > So your point, John, is BULL****.
>> >
>> > PS: You're wasting bandwidth.
>>
>>
>> You really are pathetic, Morein. First you say you are not wasting
>> bandwidth the claim I am. What a moron.
>>
> I am being ironic,

Actually, more like sarcastic. Its the only way to deal with those
imbeciles.
PS, this was not a waste of bandwidth.

[George M. Middius]

Jon Yaeger said:

> > PS: You're wasting bandwidth.

> You really are pathetic, Morein. First you say you are not wasting
> bandwidth the claim I am. What a moron.

Wow. You could give duh-Mikey a run for his money.