How about New Orleans?

[Schizoid Man]

I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.

I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
heading down to N'Awlins.

Aye or nay?

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:09:59 -0700, Schizoid Man > wrote:

>I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>
>I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
>days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
>heading down to N'Awlins.

Yes. Come hungry.

Kal

[Bill Riel]

In article >, says...
> I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>
> I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
> days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
> heading down to N'Awlins.
>
> Aye or nay?

I've only been there once, but absolutely loved it. Awesome food, music
and a great party atmosphere. I was there in the summer and it was
stinking hot and humid, but still had a great time.

I think you'll like it...

--
Bill

[Margaret von B.]

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
...
> I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>
> I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
> days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
> heading down to N'Awlins.
>
> Aye or nay?

If you couldn't deal with Naples....

I've spent numerous weeks at the Marriott in front of the French Quarter.
There's a whorehouse right behind it. Very authentic! The best thing is that
transvestite cabaree I cannot name right now and K'Pauls. You just have to
experience the blackened redfish, don't let the appearance to fool you.

Cheers,

Margaret

[Schizoid Man]

Margaret von B. wrote:

> "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message

>>I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>>
>>I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
>>days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
>>heading down to N'Awlins.
>>
>>Aye or nay?
>
> If you couldn't deal with Naples....

Like I told Dormer, I saw someone get stabbed in the neck.

> I've spent numerous weeks at the Marriott in front of the French Quarter.
> There's a whorehouse right behind it. Very authentic! The best thing is that
> transvestite cabaree I cannot name right now and K'Pauls. You just have to
> experience the blackened redfish, don't let the appearance to fool you.

I could do without visiting the whorehouse. I was more interested in the
food and drink.

> Cheers,
>
> Margaret

[Margaret von B.]

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
...
> Margaret von B. wrote:
>
>> "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
>
>>>I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>>>
>>>I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
>>>days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
>>>heading down to N'Awlins.
>>>
>>>Aye or nay?
>>
>> If you couldn't deal with Naples....
>
> Like I told Dormer, I saw someone get stabbed in the neck.
>
>> I've spent numerous weeks at the Marriott in front of the French Quarter.
>> There's a whorehouse right behind it. Very authentic! The best thing is
>> that transvestite cabaree I cannot name right now and K'Pauls. You just
>> have to experience the blackened redfish, don't let the appearance to
>> fool you.
>
> I could do without visiting the whorehouse. I was more interested in the
> food and drink.
>

Naturally I was discussing the setting.

Cheers,

Margaret

[Robert Morein]

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
...
> Margaret von B. wrote:
>
> > "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
>
> >>I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
> >>
> >>I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
> >>days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
> >>heading down to N'Awlins.
> >>
I am fascinated by the place itself, but it is the most dangerous city in
the U.S.
As a practitioner of statistics, you know what that means.

Ominously, among my sample, those who lived there are more scared of it than
those who haven't.
If you're one street "off", you could be dead or very hurt.

[dave weil]

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:57:03 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> wrote:

>
>"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
...
>> Margaret von B. wrote:
>>
>> > "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>> >>
>> >>I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
>> >>days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
>> >>heading down to N'Awlins.
>> >>
>I am fascinated by the place itself, but it is the most dangerous city in
>the U.S.
>As a practitioner of statistics, you know what that means.

It means that you've got your statistics all screwed up, because
nowhere is it listed as such. On ANY list that I can find. The highest
it shows up is on a list of top metro areas and it comes in 8th.

>Ominously, among my sample, those who lived there are more scared of it than
>those who haven't.
>If you're one street "off", you could be dead or very hurt.

Sounds like Philly to me.

Of course I'm one to talk, since the town I grew up in and the town I
live in now are on one of the various lists as well:

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)

Most Dangerous 10:

1
Detroit, MI

2
Washington, DC

3
Baltimore, MD

4
Memphis, TN

5
Dallas, TX

6
Philadelphia, PA

7
Columbus, OH

8
Nashville, TN

9
Houston, TX

10
Phoenix, AZ

[Robert Morein]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:57:03 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Margaret von B. wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> >>I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
> >> >>
> >> >>I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away
three
> >> >>days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking
of
> >> >>heading down to N'Awlins.
> >> >>
> >I am fascinated by the place itself, but it is the most dangerous city in
> >the U.S.
> >As a practitioner of statistics, you know what that means.
>
> It means that you've got your statistics all screwed up, because
> nowhere is it listed as such.
I stand corrected. It was so in 1996:
http://away.com/destination-overview/New-Orleans-2380-travel-guide.html
"Crime has been high; at one time -- 1995 and 1996, in particular -- this
was the most dangerous city in America, although concerted efforts to fix
that have paid off with lower crime rates of late."

[dave weil]

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:17:26 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> wrote:

>I stand corrected. It was so in 1996:
>http://away.com/destination-overview/New-Orleans-2380-travel-guide.html
>"Crime has been high; at one time -- 1995 and 1996, in particular -- this
>was the most dangerous city in America, although concerted efforts to fix
>that have paid off with lower crime rates of late."

Yeah, I seem to remember that a decade or so ago it might have been
true. But times change. For example, NYC is now one of the safest
cities in the States, statistically speaking...

[Robert Morein]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:17:26 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> > wrote:
>
> >I stand corrected. It was so in 1996:
> >http://away.com/destination-overview/New-Orleans-2380-travel-guide.html
> >"Crime has been high; at one time -- 1995 and 1996, in particular -- this
> >was the most dangerous city in America, although concerted efforts to fix
> >that have paid off with lower crime rates of late."
>
> Yeah, I seem to remember that a decade or so ago it might have been
> true. But times change. For example, NYC is now one of the safest
> cities in the States, statistically speaking...

I feel very safe in NYC.
Though I still keep my head on a swivel, as pilots say.

[Clyde Slick]

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
...
> I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>
> I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
> days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
> heading down to N'Awlins.
>
> Aye or nay?

Its still hurricane season.



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[Clyde Slick]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
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> CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)
>
> Most Dangerous 10:
>
> 1
> Detroit, MI
>
> 2
> Washington, DC
>
> 3
> Baltimore, MD
>
> 4
> Memphis, TN
>
> 5
> Dallas, TX
>
> 6
> Philadelphia, PA
>
> 7
> Columbus, OH
>
> 8
> Nashville, TN
>
> 9
> Houston, TX
>
> 10
> Phoenix, AZ
>

most applicable, if you are a drug user, a drug dealer, or
live in a drug infested neighborhood.



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[ScottW]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>>
>> I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
>> days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
>> heading down to N'Awlins.
>>
>> Aye or nay?
>
> Its still hurricane season.

Better visit it before the big one... this city may just
become the next Atlantis.

ScottW

[Mike]

Violence in most cities is due to drug related activity. In tourist
destinations most petty crime is targeted at tourist because they might be
unaware of their surroundings, trusting when they should be suspicious and
alert to criminal activity and finally because most will not return a
tourist city to testify in court. My experience has been by staying out of
disadvantaged areas, especially drug mfg/trafficking areas and use common
sense. RIO de Janeiro and some Mexican cities are what I call dangerous.

Mike

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:57:03 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
...
>>> Margaret von B. wrote:
>>>
>>> > "Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> >>I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>>> >>
>>> >>I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away
>>> >>three
>>> >>days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
>>> >>heading down to N'Awlins.
>>> >>
>>I am fascinated by the place itself, but it is the most dangerous city in
>>the U.S.
>>As a practitioner of statistics, you know what that means.
>
> It means that you've got your statistics all screwed up, because
> nowhere is it listed as such. On ANY list that I can find. The highest
> it shows up is on a list of top metro areas and it comes in 8th.
>
>>Ominously, among my sample, those who lived there are more scared of it
>>than
>>those who haven't.
>>If you're one street "off", you could be dead or very hurt.
>
> Sounds like Philly to me.
>
> Of course I'm one to talk, since the town I grew up in and the town I
> live in now are on one of the various lists as well:
>
> CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)
>
> Most Dangerous 10:
>
> 1
> Detroit, MI
>
> 2
> Washington, DC
>
> 3
> Baltimore, MD
>
> 4
> Memphis, TN
>
> 5
> Dallas, TX
>
> 6
> Philadelphia, PA
>
> 7
> Columbus, OH
>
> 8
> Nashville, TN
>
> 9
> Houston, TX
>
> 10
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
>
>

[Clyde Slick]

"Mike" > wrote in message
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> Violence in most cities is due to drug related activity.

Actually, its mostly to do with domestic issues.



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[Mike]

According to fbi statistics & mayors of Baltimore, DC, NYC & Detroit and
other large urban areas the bulk of violent crime(including >80% of murders)
is due to drug related activities. I stated my source. . .

Mike


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>>> Violence in most cities is due to drug related activity.
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> According to fbi statistics & mayors of Baltimore, DC, NYC & Detroit and
> other large urban areas the bulk of violent crime(including >80% of
> murders) is due to drug related activities. I stated my source. . .
>
> Mike


"Violence" is not necessarily "Violent Crime"
You changed horses in midstream.



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[Mike]

Too much time on your hands?


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>>>> Violence in most cities is due to drug related activity.
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>> other large urban areas the bulk of violent crime(including >80% of
>> murders) is due to drug related activities. I stated my source. . .
>>
>> Mike
>
>
> "Violence" is not necessarily "Violent Crime"
> You changed horses in midstream.
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[Clyde Slick]

> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
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>>> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Mike" > wrote in message
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>>>>> Violence in most cities is due to drug related activity.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, its mostly to do with domestic issues.

>>>> =----
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>> "Mike" > wrote in message
>> news:eMQKe.6570$0d.2157@trnddc03...
>>> According to fbi statistics & mayors of Baltimore, DC, NYC & Detroit and
>>> other large urban areas the bulk of violent crime(including >80% of
>>> murders) is due to drug related activities. I stated my source. . .
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>> "Violence" is not necessarily "Violent Crime"
>> You changed horses in midstream.
>>
>
>
"Mike" > wrote in message
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> Too much time on your hands?
>
>

Too much come on yours?



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[Tom]

Did you make it to New Orleans?

Tom

"Schizoid Man" > wrote in message
...
> I'm looking for an urban destination for Labor Day weekend.
>
> I've been to New York a billion times, and rather than while away three
> days in the suburban wasteland of Dallas or Atlanta, I was thinking of
> heading down to N'Awlins.
>
> Aye or nay?