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Trevor Wilson
July 24th 05, 11:56 PM
What can I say?
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
George M. Middius
July 25th 05, 12:43 AM
Trevor Wilson said:
> What can I say?
While we're on the subject, not all Americans are money-grubbers or
bible-thumpers.
MINe 109
July 25th 05, 02:25 AM
In article >,
"Trevor Wilson" > wrote:
> What can I say?
Austinites celebrated by going to outdoor viewing parties and wearing
yellow. I guess we'll go back to ignoring cycling as a sport, but it's
popular as a hobby around here.
Stephen
GeoSynch
July 25th 05, 06:50 AM
Trevor Wilson wrote:
> What can I say?
A letter to the editor in The American Spectator sums it up best:
"The difference between Lance Armstrong and his European opponents is the
difference between the United States and Europe. The reason Armstrong has won
six Tours after surviving cancer is that he works harder than anyone else. The
French think it's cheating. But the reason you see so many of Armstrong's former
teammates as team leaders or otherwise high in the rankings is they've learned
from Armstrong and work like he does.
"Before Armstrong, riders started preparing for the Tour in February --
Armstrong started in November. He and his director and his team ride recon on
all the critical stages; last year, Armstrong climbed the feared Alpe d'Huez
something like fifteen times in training, even though he'd raced over it at
least a half-dozen times previously and knew every corner. While Jan Ullrich was
going to discos (and getting bagged for drunk driving), Armstrong was in the
wind tunnel testing little adjustments in riding position.
"The team matters too, and Armstrong's team prepares equally well. Every one of
the eight teammates (selected from a squad of about 24 riders on the team) is
selected to do a specific job to protect and assist Armstrong. They've got total
buy-in to the team concept (which Armstrong helps cement by doing his part as a
support rider for teammates during the spring classics, when guys like George
Hincapie are the team leader going for the win and Armstrong is just getting
some race miles under his wheels).
"Then there's technology. There is an entire team of experts in aerodynamics
working in that wind tunnel, and they talk to the team of experts in materials
science and making bicycles and parts lighter, stronger, and more aerodynamic.
They've got nutritionists and physiologists not only guiding Armstrong's
training but that of his teammates too.
"It's the American way as compared to the ways of old Europe -- gather good
hard-working people without much thought of where they come from, set a goal,
work longer and harder than anyone else, invest in technology, and win. It works
for our economy just like it works for a bicycle race."
--Matthew Mitchell
http://www.americanprowler.com/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8472
GeoSynch
GeoSynch wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
> > What can I say?
>
> A letter to the editor in The American Spectator sums it up best:
>
> "The difference between Lance Armstrong and his European opponents is the
> difference between the United States and Europe. The reason Armstrong has won
> six Tours after surviving cancer is that he works harder than anyone else.
(snip)
> "It's the American way as compared to the ways of old Europe -- gather good
> hard-working people without much thought of where they come from, set a goal,
> work longer and harder than anyone else, invest in technology, and win. It works
> for our economy just like it works for a bicycle race."
I know almost nothing about bicycle racing, but this all reminds me of
a book from 30+ years ago about the Roger Penske/(the late) Mark
Donoghue car racing team, titled "The Unfair Advantage." The gist of
the book is that this team worked harder and smarter and invested more
than other car racing teams, so they often succeeded or were at the
very least, competitive.
BTW, I noticed a dig at the French in the letter you quoted. France is
the world's 5th biggest economy and the world's 5th biggest exporter,
despite not being a huge company. I get a little tired of the cliched
digs at the French. It's always possible that when our guy Lance wins,
his non-US competitors aren't inferior fools either.
studiorat
July 30th 05, 05:33 PM
Jesus.
I love cycling, Lance Armstrong? well done...
But GeoSynch just winds me up...
The "American Work Ethic" my arse... It's the american supeority
complex more like...
Nevermind the vast majority of the country are half wit crackers.
The funny thing is that Americans think they are "Free".
Not with that Criminal Justice System mate...
ScottW
July 30th 05, 05:37 PM
"studiorat" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Jesus.
> I love cycling, Lance Armstrong? well done...
> But GeoSynch just winds me up...
> The "American Work Ethic" my arse... It's the american supeority
> complex more like...
> Nevermind the vast majority of the country are half wit crackers.
This reveals a lot more about you rat than it does about Americans
> The funny thing is that Americans think they are "Free".
> Not with that Criminal Justice System mate...
I'm guessing you were unjustly incarcerated before your
deportation?
ScottW
studiorat
August 1st 05, 01:41 PM
Ha, very good scott but wrong all the same.
Lance Armstrong's sucess is not an excuse for an exercise in jingoisim.
The fearmongers at American Spectator may wish to print a letter using
L.A. as an excuse to push their right-wing sentiments, once again
upping the count of bible thumping money grubbers. I doubt the OP would
have expected his post to have been hijacked is such a way.
DS
Lionel
August 1st 05, 03:19 PM
In . com>, studiorat
wrote :
> Ha, very good scott but wrong all the same.
> Lance Armstrong's sucess is not an excuse for an exercise in jingoisim.
>
> The fearmongers at American Spectator may wish to print a letter using
> L.A. as an excuse to push their right-wing sentiments, once again
> upping the count of bible thumping money grubbers. I doubt the OP would
> have expected his post to have been hijacked is such a way.
> DS
Lance Armstrong like Lapize, Coppi, Bobet, Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault,
Indurain and many other bikers is a very great racer, an example of courage
and sportsmanship.
Now it is really funny to see that US overweighted "hooligans" are trying to
recycle crumbs of his glory to feed their propaganda. ;-)
Lionel
August 1st 05, 05:37 PM
GeoSynch a écrit :
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>
>>What can I say?
>
>
> A letter to the editor in The American Spectator sums it up best:
>
> "The difference between Lance Armstrong and his European opponents is the
> difference between the United States and Europe. The reason Armstrong has won
> six Tours after surviving cancer is that he works harder than anyone else. The
> French think it's cheating.
This is a lie. Only a minority of Frenchs believe and tell
that. Note that most of them are jingoist "TV watchers" like
the author of this letter.
> But the reason you see so many of Armstrong's former
> teammates as team leaders or otherwise high in the rankings is they've learned
> from Armstrong and work like he does.
>
> "Before Armstrong, riders started preparing for the Tour in February --
> Armstrong started in November. He and his director and his team ride recon on
> all the critical stages; last year, Armstrong climbed the feared Alpe d'Huez
> something like fifteen times in training, even though he'd raced over it at
> least a half-dozen times previously and knew every corner. While Jan Ullrich was
> going to discos (and getting bagged for drunk driving), Armstrong was in the
> wind tunnel testing little adjustments in riding position.
>
> "The team matters too, and Armstrong's team prepares equally well. Every one of
> the eight teammates (selected from a squad of about 24 riders on the team) is
> selected to do a specific job to protect and assist Armstrong. They've got total
> buy-in to the team concept (which Armstrong helps cement by doing his part as a
> support rider for teammates during the spring classics, when guys like George
> Hincapie are the team leader going for the win and Armstrong is just getting
> some race miles under his wheels).
>
> "Then there's technology. There is an entire team of experts in aerodynamics
> working in that wind tunnel, and they talk to the team of experts in materials
> science and making bicycles and parts lighter, stronger, and more aerodynamic.
> They've got nutritionists and physiologists not only guiding Armstrong's
> training but that of his teammates too.
>
> "It's the American way as compared to the ways of old Europe -- gather good
> hard-working people without much thought of where they come from, set a goal,
> work longer and harder than anyone else, invest in technology, and win. It works
> for our economy just like it works for a bicycle race."
> --Matthew Mitchell
> http://www.americanprowler.com/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8472
LOL. Maybe this helps the author of the above to forget the
repetitive doping scandals that regularly touch the US team
of atheltism... :-D
Alex Rodriguez
August 1st 05, 05:41 PM
In article om>,
says...
>
>
>Jesus.
>I love cycling, Lance Armstrong? well done...
>But GeoSynch just winds me up...
>The "American Work Ethic" my arse... It's the american supeority
>complex more like...
>Nevermind the vast majority of the country are half wit crackers.
>The funny thing is that Americans think they are "Free".
>Not with that Criminal Justice System mate...
With the current president, things are just getting worse.
----------
Alex
George Middius
August 1st 05, 05:58 PM
La Salope, spectator of note, speculates speciously.
>LOL. Maybe this helps the author of the above to forget the
>repetitive doping scandals that regularly touch the US team
>of atheltism... :-D
This gibberish is almost comprehensible, Slut. Have you been snorting nitrous
oxide?
Lionel
August 1st 05, 07:05 PM
George Middius a écrit :
> La Salope, spectator of note, speculates speciously.
>
>
>>LOL. Maybe this helps the author of the above to forget the
>>repetitive doping scandals that regularly touch the US team
>>of atheltism... :-D
>
>
> This gibberish is almost comprehensible, Slut. Have you been snorting nitrous
> oxide?
No, I have spoken "English" with European fellows during my
holidays in Portugal.
But what about your asshole, George still desperately gapping ?
Lionel wrote:
> George Middius a =E9crit :
> > La Salope, spectator of note, speculates speciously.
> >
> >
> >>LOL. Maybe this helps the author of the above to forget the
> >>repetitive doping scandals that regularly touch the US team
> >>of atheltism... :-D
> >
> >
> > This gibberish is almost comprehensible, Slut. Have you been snorting n=
itrous
> > oxide?
>
> No, I have spoken "English" with European fellows during my
> holidays in Portugal.
>
>
Welcome back, Lionel! I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
>
>
> But what about your asshole, George still desperately gapping ?
>
>
Some things will never change. (e.g., "George" will always be an
asshole. He was born that way. ;-> )
George Middius
August 1st 05, 08:05 PM
Slut tries to strut her stuff.
>> This gibberish is almost comprehensible, Slut. Have you been snorting nitrous
>> oxide?
>No, I have spoken "English" with European fellows during my
>holidays in Portugal.
I can barely imagine the linguistic manglings you delivered to those "fellows".
>But what about your asshole, George still desperately gapping ?
Are you aware there's no word in English that's spelled "gapping"?
Anyway, if you turn out to be male, I might deign to take you. Is your butt
hairy or clean-shaven? Also, I insist you bathe within 24 hours preceding our
assignation. If you prefer to present your customary filthy self, I'll skip the
condom.
ScottW
August 1st 05, 08:40 PM
George Middius wrote:
> Slut tries to strut her stuff.
>
> >> This gibberish is almost comprehensible, Slut. Have you been snorting nitrous
> >> oxide?
>
> >No, I have spoken "English" with European fellows during my
> >holidays in Portugal.
>
> I can barely imagine the linguistic manglings you delivered to those "fellows".
>
> >But what about your asshole, George still desperately gapping ?
>
> Are you aware there's no word in English that's spelled "gapping"?
>
> Anyway, if you turn out to be male, I might deign to take you. Is your butt
> hairy or clean-shaven? Also, I insist you bathe within 24 hours preceding our
> assignation. If you prefer to present your customary filthy self, I'll skip the
> condom.
Wow! George you better look out. Marge is gonna be ****ed...
Beware the ...uuuhhh Texan ...scorned!
ScottW
Lionel
August 1st 05, 08:41 PM
George Middius a écrit :
> Slut tries to strut her stuff.
>
>
>>>This gibberish is almost comprehensible, Slut. Have you been snorting nitrous
>>>oxide?
>
>
>>No, I have spoken "English" with European fellows during my
>>holidays in Portugal.
>
>
> I can barely imagine the linguistic manglings you delivered to those "fellows".
No you can't, since you don't understand Angliche. :-)
>>But what about your asshole, George still desperately gapping ?
>
>
> Are you aware there's no word in English that's spelled "gapping"?
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=gapping
:-D
> Anyway, if you turn out to be male, I might deign to take you.
Can you leave your wheelchair now ?
> Is your butt
> hairy or clean-shaven?
Are you trying to feed your dying libido, George ?
> Also, I insist you bathe within 24 hours preceding our
> assignation.
Are you an adept of the sitz bath ?
> If you prefer to present your customary filthy self, I'll skip the
> condom.
You can leave your hat on, dickhead. :-D
Lionel
August 1st 05, 08:55 PM
a écrit :
> Lionel wrote:
>
>>George Middius a écrit :
>>
>>>La Salope, spectator of note, speculates speciously.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>LOL. Maybe this helps the author of the above to forget the
>>>>repetitive doping scandals that regularly touch the US team
>>>>of atheltism... :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>This gibberish is almost comprehensible, Slut. Have you been snorting nitrous
>>>oxide?
>>
>>No, I have spoken "English" with European fellows during my
>>holidays in Portugal.
>>
>>
>
> Welcome back, Lionel!
Thanks.
> I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
Marvellous. Not a lot of bike but with my sons we have tried
surf in Sagres. It was very funny.
>>But what about your asshole, George still desperately gapping ?
>>
>>
>
> Some things will never change. (e.g., "George" will always be an
> asshole. He was born that way. ;-> )
George is RAO's gilt-edged security. :-)
Clyde Slick
August 2nd 05, 02:24 AM
"studiorat" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Ha, very good scott but wrong all the same.
> Lance Armstrong's sucess is not an excuse for an exercise in jingoisim.
>
> The fearmongers at American Spectator may wish to print a letter using
> L.A. as an excuse to push their right-wing sentiments, once again
> upping the count of bible thumping money grubbers. I doubt the OP would
> have expected his post to have been hijacked is such a way.
> DS
>
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