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Bible John
July 20th 05, 05:47 PM
I have a Sony mini tape recorder that says it has VOR abilities, but I
am yet to figure out how to use VOR. Thanks.
John
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Marco-k
July 20th 05, 06:01 PM
Bible John wrote:
> I have a Sony mini tape recorder that says it has VOR abilities, but I
> am yet to figure out how to use VOR. Thanks.
VOR is the capability of the recorder to stop during the silence and go when
there is voice/sound. Usually it has 2 sensitivity options, you have to try
them. Obviously VOR is good only to save tape. But you'll have some problems
if the voice is too far from the mic.
Marco
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Bible John
July 20th 05, 06:34 PM
In article >,
"Marco-k" > wrote:
> Bible John wrote:
> > I have a Sony mini tape recorder that says it has VOR abilities, but I
> > am yet to figure out how to use VOR. Thanks.
> VOR is the capability of the recorder to stop during the silence and go when
> there is voice/sound. Usually it has 2 sensitivity options, you have to try
> them. Obviously VOR is good only to save tape. But you'll have some problems
> if the voice is too far from the mic.
> Marco
> --
> [cut of the capital B to reply]
Thank you so very much! I was unable to find my manual but you saved
the day!
One more question. Howcome tape recorders that can play backwards are
not being sold anymore to the general public for a low cost? I bought a
model for $40 in 1994.
John
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season and out of season; correct, rebuke
and encourage ‹ with great patience and careful instruction.
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Marco-k
July 20th 05, 10:27 PM
Bible John wrote:
> Thank you so very much! I was unable to find my manual but you saved
> the day!
>
> One more question. Howcome tape recorders that can play backwards are
> not being sold anymore to the general public for a low cost? I
> bought a model for $40 in 1994.
What you mean with "backwards"?
Marco
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Richard Crowley
July 20th 05, 11:26 PM
"Marco-k" wrote...
> Bible John wrote:
>> Thank you so very much! I was unable to find my manual
>> but you saved the day!
>>
>> One more question. Howcome tape recorders that can play
>> backwards are not being sold anymore to the general public
>> for a low cost? I bought a model for $40 in 1994.
>
> What you mean with "backwards"?
He likely means "reversing". Where the capstan(s) can pull
the tape in either direction and heads are provided to read/
write tracks in each direction witout flipping the tape/reels.
As to the answer to the question: you could remove the
dependent clause "that can play backwards", and it would
not change the question. Analog tape recorders of ALL
types are rapidly becoming antiques. Dunno that any new
ones have been made in years?
Early this year, the last remaining manufacturer of analog
tape disappeared and the market/prices for analog tape
equipment was nearly equivalent to scrap metal. And there
was fear that lots of reels of tape out there with ~valuable
recordings on them would be erased and re-cycled.
Fortunately, a couple of companies have gone back into
production of analog tape (at least a limited range).
Bible John
July 21st 05, 03:01 AM
In article >,
"Richard Crowley" > wrote:
> He likely means "reversing". Where the capstan(s) can pull
> the tape in either direction and heads are provided to read/
> write tracks in each direction witout flipping the tape/reels.
>
> As to the answer to the question: you could remove the
> dependent clause "that can play backwards", and it would
> not change the question. Analog tape recorders of ALL
> types are rapidly becoming antiques. Dunno that any new
> ones have been made in years?
I found what I was looking for. For some uses especially in the field
below nothing works better than a tape recorder.
http://www.reversespeech.com/example3.htm
>
> Early this year, the last remaining manufacturer of analog
> tape disappeared and the market/prices for analog tape
> equipment was nearly equivalent to scrap metal. And there
> was fear that lots of reels of tape out there with ~valuable
> recordings on them would be erased and re-cycled.
I could really care less about anyones opinion. I use what I use to get
the job that I need to do done. I use CD and DVD for other tasks as
well, but for some things tape just wins hands down.
>
> Fortunately, a couple of companies have gone back into
> production of analog tape (at least a limited range).
In the field of law enforcement and security they are far from dead.
Did you know that millions of stores still use VHS tapes to record and
monitor the store? Go work at Target for a week and then come back and
tell me how useless tapes are.
Did you know that for interegation purposes audio tape is still being
used daily?
Did you know that for monitoring phone colnversations, audio tape is
used?
And the big one, what I do.
Did you know that in the church ministry field, audio tapes are huge?
Call lakeWood church and ask them how many tapes of Joel Osteens sermons
they ship out a month? The answer will be in the thousands. Call jack
Haford, Call Swindall or call any other church, and most will tell you
that the sermons are recorded on tape.
People today, always, but always assume that everyone does nothing but
listen to music and all their use for recording is music.
John
--
CERM- Church Education Resource Ministries
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
2Tim. 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in
season and out of season; correct, rebuke
and encourage ‹ with great patience and careful instruction.
AIM: Crucifyself03
Joe Kesselman
July 21st 05, 05:13 AM
>>One more question. Howcome tape recorders that can play backwards are
>>not being sold anymore to the general public for a low cost?
No demand from the low-cost market.
Richard Crowley
July 21st 05, 06:14 AM
> wrote ...
> I could really care less about anyones opinion.
Good for you. But I wasn't expressing an opinion. I was
recalling news from just a few months ago. Perhaps not
news in your special world?
Dimitrios Tzortzakakis
July 21st 05, 01:47 PM
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
Ο "Bible John" > έγραψε στο μήνυμα
...
> In article >,
> "Richard Crowley" > wrote:
>
> > He likely means "reversing". Where the capstan(s) can pull
> > the tape in either direction and heads are provided to read/
> > write tracks in each direction witout flipping the tape/reels.
> >
>
> > As to the answer to the question: you could remove the
> > dependent clause "that can play backwards", and it would
> > not change the question. Analog tape recorders of ALL
> > types are rapidly becoming antiques. Dunno that any new
> > ones have been made in years?
You're wrong.ALL boomboxes in Europe come with two tape decks, and most
cheap cars (Hyundai Atos, and most FIATs)come with cassete radio instead of
cd.
>
> I found what I was looking for. For some uses especially in the field
> below nothing works better than a tape recorder.
>
> http://www.reversespeech.com/example3.htm
>
I absolutely agree.
> >
> > Early this year, the last remaining manufacturer of analog
> > tape disappeared and the market/prices for analog tape
> > equipment was nearly equivalent to scrap metal. And there
> > was fear that lots of reels of tape out there with ~valuable
> > recordings on them would be erased and re-cycled.
>
How did you get these news?
> I could really care less about anyones opinion. I use what I use to get
> the job that I need to do done. I use CD and DVD for other tasks as
> well, but for some things tape just wins hands down.
> >
I agree.
> > Fortunately, a couple of companies have gone back into
> > production of analog tape (at least a limited range).
>
> In the field of law enforcement and security they are far from dead.
> Did you know that millions of stores still use VHS tapes to record and
> monitor the store? Go work at Target for a week and then come back and
> tell me how useless tapes are.
Practically all video clubs in Greece don't trash their precious VHS
collections because they are being hired a lot.I wanted to rent a Pink
Panther or a Lui de Funes movie, and discovered ALL of them were hired.I
would never buy a DVD player or a digital camera, just to see movies on
scratched DVDs on a lossy compression medium.
>
> Did you know that for interegation purposes audio tape is still being
> used daily?
>
> Did you know that for monitoring phone colnversations, audio tape is
> used?
>
>
I never thought everything that "public"believed is correct.Such as analogue
formats are antique, a fan blows hot (!) air or that everything digital is
better, even than a high-end analogue 8 mm sony camcorder.
> And the big one, what I do.
>
> Did you know that in the church ministry field, audio tapes are huge?
> Call lakeWood church and ask them how many tapes of Joel Osteens sermons
> they ship out a month? The answer will be in the thousands. Call jack
> Haford, Call Swindall or call any other church, and most will tell you
> that the sermons are recorded on tape.
>
>
> People today, always, but always assume that everyone does nothing but
> listen to music and all their use for recording is music.
>
>
And all that public believes...
>
> John
>
> --
> CERM- Church Education Resource Ministries
> http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
>
> 2Tim. 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in
> season and out of season; correct, rebuke
> and encourage ‹ with great patience and careful instruction.
>
> AIM: Crucifyself03
Richard Crowley
July 21st 05, 03:41 PM
"Dimitrios Tzortzakakis" wrote ...
> How did you get these news?
Look through the Google archives for news:rec.audio.pro
in the first half of this year. It was huge news in audio
circles for months.
Bible John
July 21st 05, 04:33 PM
In article >,
"Dimitrios Tzortzakakis" > wrote:
> --
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
> major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
> FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
> Ο "Bible John" > έγραψε στο μήνυμα
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Richard Crowley" > wrote:
> >
> > > He likely means "reversing". Where the capstan(s) can pull
> > > the tape in either direction and heads are provided to read/
> > > write tracks in each direction witout flipping the tape/reels.
> > >
> >
> > > As to the answer to the question: you could remove the
> > > dependent clause "that can play backwards", and it would
> > > not change the question. Analog tape recorders of ALL
> > > types are rapidly becoming antiques. Dunno that any new
> > > ones have been made in years?
> You're wrong.ALL boomboxes in Europe come with two tape decks, and most
> cheap cars (Hyundai Atos, and most FIATs)come with cassete radio instead of
> cd.
Thats odd why the europeans still sell two tape decks. Why? You are
right about cars. Many new ones include tape decks. In the USA one has
to buy a really expensive stereo system to get 2 tape decks. In the
past such a system with a CD was available for as much as a normal
boombox.
Tape is good for some things, and why it should never die. But I still
see it being sold in many stores, so obviously many need it. I know
those working in security and law enforcement most definately need tapes.
John
> >
> > I found what I was looking for. For some uses especially in the field
> > below nothing works better than a tape recorder.
> >
> > http://www.reversespeech.com/example3.htm
> >
> I absolutely agree.
> > >
> > > Early this year, the last remaining manufacturer of analog
> > > tape disappeared and the market/prices for analog tape
> > > equipment was nearly equivalent to scrap metal. And there
> > > was fear that lots of reels of tape out there with ~valuable
> > > recordings on them would be erased and re-cycled.
> >
> How did you get these news?
> > I could really care less about anyones opinion. I use what I use to get
> > the job that I need to do done. I use CD and DVD for other tasks as
> > well, but for some things tape just wins hands down.
> > >
> I agree.
> > > Fortunately, a couple of companies have gone back into
> > > production of analog tape (at least a limited range).
> >
> > In the field of law enforcement and security they are far from dead.
> > Did you know that millions of stores still use VHS tapes to record and
> > monitor the store? Go work at Target for a week and then come back and
> > tell me how useless tapes are.
> Practically all video clubs in Greece don't trash their precious VHS
> collections because they are being hired a lot.I wanted to rent a Pink
> Panther or a Lui de Funes movie, and discovered ALL of them were hired.I
> would never buy a DVD player or a digital camera, just to see movies on
> scratched DVDs on a lossy compression medium.
> >
> > Did you know that for interegation purposes audio tape is still being
> > used daily?
> >
> > Did you know that for monitoring phone colnversations, audio tape is
> > used?
> >
> >
> I never thought everything that "public"believed is correct.Such as analogue
> formats are antique, a fan blows hot (!) air or that everything digital is
> better, even than a high-end analogue 8 mm sony camcorder.
> > And the big one, what I do.
> >
> > Did you know that in the church ministry field, audio tapes are huge?
> > Call lakeWood church and ask them how many tapes of Joel Osteens sermons
> > they ship out a month? The answer will be in the thousands. Call jack
> > Haford, Call Swindall or call any other church, and most will tell you
> > that the sermons are recorded on tape.
> >
> >
> > People today, always, but always assume that everyone does nothing but
> > listen to music and all their use for recording is music.
> >
> >
> And all that public believes...
> >
> > John
> >
> > --
> > CERM- Church Education Resource Ministries
> > http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
> >
> > 2Tim. 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in
> > season and out of season; correct, rebuke
> > and encourage ‹ with great patience and careful instruction.
> >
> > AIM: Crucifyself03
--
CERM- Church Education Resource Ministries
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
2Tim. 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in
season and out of season; correct, rebuke
and encourage ‹ with great patience and careful instruction.
AIM: Crucifyself03
jkn
July 21st 05, 04:49 PM
>
> Thats odd why the europeans still sell two tape decks. Why?
It's not true in the UK - boomboxes have a CD player, and might have a
cassette player, but the latter is getting rarer.
As for the OP and his need for playing stuff backwards ... you're not
looking for 'satanic' messages, by any chance ;-?
J^n
Richard Crowley
July 22nd 05, 06:17 AM
"Bible John" wrote ...
> Tape is good for some things, and why it should never die. But I
> still
> see it being sold in many stores, so obviously many need it. I know
> those working in security and law enforcement most definately need
> tapes.
I guess you missed the part where we were discussing analog,
reel-to-reel audio tape. Not videotape. Not audio cassettes.
Not digital tape.
But thanks for playing. Now we all know your opinion.
Carl Valle
August 11th 05, 05:00 AM
"Joe Kesselman" > wrote in message
...
>>>One more question. Howcome tape recorders that can play backwards are
>>>not being sold anymore to the general public for a low cost?
>
> No demand from the low-cost market.
>
It isn't too hard to get a CD to play backwards. At least not on a DAW....
Joe Kesselman
August 11th 05, 11:27 AM
> It isn't too hard to get a CD to play backwards. At least not on a DAW....
Yeah, but that isn't quite "low-cost market". Or at least, not _as_
low-cost.
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