The party's over.

[paul packer]

OK RAO kids, it's time to finish up at aus.hi-fi and toddle off back
to your own playroom. You've met some of the regulars here, you've had
a tour of our playroom, you've upset our routine and made us all glad
we're not you, but now it's time to pack up the toys and head back.

Mind how you go. Arnie, don't pull George's hair. George, no
scratching Arnie's eyes out. Dave, I expect you to keep the peace.
Stewart, you can go over and play with Howard in the corner, where you
can both pretend your rattles and whistles all sound the same. Bye
now. Kisses to all.

[Robert Morein]

"paul packer" > wrote in message
...
> OK RAO kids, it's time to finish up at aus.hi-fi and toddle off back
> to your own playroom. You've met some of the regulars here, you've had
> a tour of our playroom, you've upset our routine and made us all glad
> we're not you, but now it's time to pack up the toys and head back.
>
> Mind how you go. Arnie, don't pull George's hair. George, no
> scratching Arnie's eyes out. Dave, I expect you to keep the peace.
> Stewart, you can go over and play with Howard in the corner, where you
> can both pretend your rattles and whistles all sound the same. Bye
> now. Kisses to all.

Paul, what you're trying is more like a drug sweep to get the pushers out of
Washington Square Park. They don't want to go, and they come back real fast.

[paul packer]

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:24:35 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> wrote:

>
>"paul packer" > wrote in message
...
>> OK RAO kids, it's time to finish up at aus.hi-fi and toddle off back
>> to your own playroom. You've met some of the regulars here, you've had
>> a tour of our playroom, you've upset our routine and made us all glad
>> we're not you, but now it's time to pack up the toys and head back.
>>
>> Mind how you go. Arnie, don't pull George's hair. George, no
>> scratching Arnie's eyes out. Dave, I expect you to keep the peace.
>> Stewart, you can go over and play with Howard in the corner, where you
>> can both pretend your rattles and whistles all sound the same. Bye
>> now. Kisses to all.
>
>Paul, what you're trying is more like a drug sweep to get the pushers out of
>Washington Square Park. They don't want to go, and they come back real fast.

Hi, Robert. Long time no communicate. I wonder if You Know Who is
still around? Haven't seen mention of him for yonks.

[roughplanet]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message
...

"paul packer" > wrote in message
...

>> OK RAO kids, it's time to finish up at aus.hi-fi and toddle off back
>> to your own playroom. You've met some of the regulars here, you've had
>> a tour of our playroom, you've upset our routine and made us all glad
>> we're not you, but now it's time to pack up the toys and head back.
>>
>> Mind how you go. Arnie, don't pull George's hair. George, no
>> scratching Arnie's eyes out. Dave, I expect you to keep the peace.
>> Stewart, you can go over and play with Howard in the corner, where you
>> can both pretend your rattles and whistles all sound the same. Bye
>> now. Kisses to all.

> Paul, what you're trying is more like a drug sweep to get the pushers out
> of
> Washington Square Park. They don't want to go, and they come back real
> fast.

Especially if you continue to encourage them by indulging in idle banter,
eh?

ruff

[Robert Morein]

"paul packer" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:24:35 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"paul packer" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> OK RAO kids, it's time to finish up at aus.hi-fi and toddle off back
> >> to your own playroom. You've met some of the regulars here, you've had
> >> a tour of our playroom, you've upset our routine and made us all glad
> >> we're not you, but now it's time to pack up the toys and head back.
> >>
> >> Mind how you go. Arnie, don't pull George's hair. George, no
> >> scratching Arnie's eyes out. Dave, I expect you to keep the peace.
> >> Stewart, you can go over and play with Howard in the corner, where you
> >> can both pretend your rattles and whistles all sound the same. Bye
> >> now. Kisses to all.
> >
> >Paul, what you're trying is more like a drug sweep to get the pushers out
of
> >Washington Square Park. They don't want to go, and they come back real
fast.
>
> Hi, Robert. Long time no communicate. I wonder if You Know Who is
> still around? Haven't seen mention of him for yonks.

He was recently active here as "Michael Conzo". He's been attempting
variations of style, but the identification is certain. See:

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.audio.opinion+author:Michael+au thor:Conzo&start=0&scoring=d&num=10&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_min
m=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=17&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=2005&safe=off&

[Arny Krueger]

"roughplanet" > wrote in
message
u


> Especially if you continue to encourage them by indulging
in
> idle banter, eh?

Finally, someone with a bit of insight steps up.

[paul packer]

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 05:38:19 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> wrote:

>> >Paul, what you're trying is more like a drug sweep to get the pushers out
>of
>> >Washington Square Park. They don't want to go, and they come back real
>fast.
>>
>> Hi, Robert. Long time no communicate. I wonder if You Know Who is
>> still around? Haven't seen mention of him for yonks.
>
>He was recently active here as "Michael Conzo". He's been attempting
>variations of style, but the identification is certain. See:
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.audio.opinion+author:Michael+au thor:Conzo&start=0&scoring=d&num=10&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_min
>m=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=17&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=2005&safe=off&

Interesting reading. So Brian contacted Middius--I wonder why. Was it
anything like the plea for understanding I received? I must say he has
more twists in his tail than an anaconda.

[paul packer]

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:09:40 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"roughplanet" > wrote in
>message
u
>
>
>> Especially if you continue to encourage them by indulging
>in
>> idle banter, eh?
>
>Finally, someone with a bit of insight steps up.

Where's the insight, Arnie? Ruff's just got his knickers in a knot
because we were invaded for a while. Anyone who knows the RAO crowd
knows they're just like belligerent teenagers wandering past late at
night shouting abuse and dares at each other from opposite sides of
the street. They're annoying for a while, but after they've passed you
never think about them again.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

> >Finally, someone with a bit of insight steps up.

> Where's the insight, Arnie? Ruff's just got his knickers in a knot
> because we were invaded for a while. Anyone who knows the RAO crowd
> knows they're just like belligerent teenagers wandering past late at
> night shouting abuse and dares at each other from opposite sides of
> the street. They're annoying for a while, but after they've passed you
> never think about them again.

That may be how you see it, but Krooger's only motivation is to shift blame
and responsibility to everybody else. He sits there day after day in his
basement, clad only in dirty underwear, munching corn flakes and stale ham
sandwiches. Will somebody come down into his burrow and pity him? Will
somebody pat him on the head and say, "It's not your fault, Arnii. They
really are out to get you."? Nobody does, so Krooger uses his "debating
trade" techniques of twisting and stretching and turning inside-out.

Don't forget -- you're on Mr. ****'s ****list. ;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net> wrote in message


Let's look at what Middius writes, and see how he can only
speek in lies.

> That may be how you see it, but Krooger's only motivation
is
> to shift blame and responsibility to everybody else.

I've always accepts part of the blame for the sitaution on
RAO, If you want a real thrill, try find Middius accepting
any blame for it.

> He sits there day after day in his basement,

I've never had an operational computer in the basement of my
house. Too much wood shop going on there.

> clad only in dirty underwear,

Middius apparenly gets off by thinking about me in my
underware. Disgusting!

> munching corn flakes

My favorite and most frequently consumer breakfast cereal is
"Special K", natch.

> and stale ham sandwiches.

I only eat fresh sandwiches made a few minutes before I eat
them. Those would either be home made or Subway, etc. My
favorite Subway sandwich? - Veggie Lover's.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>underware......


Is that some kind of illegal softwear? ;-)

--

"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

[Robert Morein]

"paul packer" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 05:38:19 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> > wrote:
>
> >> >Paul, what you're trying is more like a drug sweep to get the pushers
out
> >of
> >> >Washington Square Park. They don't want to go, and they come back real
> >fast.
> >>
> >> Hi, Robert. Long time no communicate. I wonder if You Know Who is
> >> still around? Haven't seen mention of him for yonks.
> >
> >He was recently active here as "Michael Conzo". He's been attempting
> >variations of style, but the identification is certain. See:
> >
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.audio.opinion+author:Micha
el+author:Conzo&start=0&scoring=d&num=10&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_mi
n
> >m=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=17&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=2005&safe=off&
>
> Interesting reading. So Brian contacted Middius--I wonder why. Was it
> anything like the plea for understanding I received? I must say he has
> more twists in his tail than an anaconda.
>
Yes, it appears so. Every so often, Brian feels a need to try to con
somebody. He may have perceived Middius as the leader of a clique to which
admission would represent a form of acceptance. It's schoolyard logic. Brian
is trapped in junior high school; it's classic arrested development.

[George M. Middius]

Sander deWaal said:

> >underware......

> Is that some kind of illegal softwear? ;-)

Making fun of the cripple again? For shame. <g>

[George M. Middius]

Robert Morein said:

> > Interesting reading. So Brian contacted Middius--I wonder why. Was it
> > anything like the plea for understanding I received? I must say he has
> > more twists in his tail than an anaconda.

> Yes, it appears so. Every so often, Brian feels a need to try to con
> somebody. He may have perceived Middius as the leader of a clique to which
> admission would represent a form of acceptance. It's schoolyard logic. Brian
> is trapped in junior high school; it's classic arrested development.

Knowing what I do about Bwian, it's more likely he wanted to capture the
headers in my email for some nefarious purpose. Possibly just tattling but
maybe something more sinister. Bwian doesn't play well with the other
children.

[Robert Morein]

"George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote
in message ...
>
>
> Robert Morein said:
>
> > > Interesting reading. So Brian contacted Middius--I wonder why. Was it
> > > anything like the plea for understanding I received? I must say he has
> > > more twists in his tail than an anaconda.
>
> > Yes, it appears so. Every so often, Brian feels a need to try to con
> > somebody. He may have perceived Middius as the leader of a clique to
which
> > admission would represent a form of acceptance. It's schoolyard logic.
Brian
> > is trapped in junior high school; it's classic arrested development.
>
> Knowing what I do about Bwian, it's more likely he wanted to capture the
> headers in my email for some nefarious purpose. Possibly just tattling but
> maybe something more sinister. Bwian doesn't play well with the other
> children.
>
That is very possible.
A friend of mine, a theologian, says, "true evil has no purpose", by which
he means that people like Brian engage in desstructive activities for no
apparent reason.

[paul packer]

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:47:00 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> wrote:

>> Interesting reading. So Brian contacted Middius--I wonder why. Was it
>> anything like the plea for understanding I received? I must say he has
>> more twists in his tail than an anaconda.
>>
>Yes, it appears so. Every so often, Brian feels a need to try to con
>somebody. He may have perceived Middius as the leader of a clique to which
>admission would represent a form of acceptance.

Well, he certainly didn't perceive me as the leader of anything that
might gain him acceptance. More like a soft touch. But I just wonder
what the point is. Even if you convince someone you're a hard-done-by
victim guilty of nothing, what have you achieved?

Incidentally, I still receive at least 5, often 10 virus infected
emails of the same type a day. Is this normal, or could I be on
"someone's" list.

[EddieM]

> Sander deWaal wrote
>> Arny Krueger said:
>
>>underware......
>
>
> Is that some kind of illegal softwear? ;-)


A wanton Freudian slip referencing those lecherous images
he hid in his harddrive for several years. Sinful pictures of
children copulating with adult males in all sorts of way.

He all gets whipped-up when words like "basement" and
"underwear" enters the discussion. Today is Sunday, right?

[Ayn Marx]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
> [dot] net> wrote in message
>
>
> Let's look at what Middius writes, and see how he can only
> speek in lies.
>
Blah Yakkity Yakkity Yak etc <........... Go away Arny. This is ROA
stuff of little or no interest to anyone on Aus.Hi-Fi. If it is of
interest to any Aus.Hi-Fi inmates could you please move over to ROA and
leave us playing in our own sand pit?

[Margaret von B.]

"paul packer" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:09:40 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>>"roughplanet" > wrote in
>>message
u
>>
>>
>>> Especially if you continue to encourage them by indulging
>>in
>>> idle banter, eh?
>>
>>Finally, someone with a bit of insight steps up.
>
> Where's the insight, Arnie? Ruff's just got his knickers in a knot
> because we were invaded for a while. Anyone who knows the RAO crowd
> knows they're just like belligerent teenagers wandering past late at
> night shouting abuse and dares at each other from opposite sides of
> the street. They're annoying for a while, but after they've passed you
> never think about them again.

No need to elevate yourselves, aussies. I've been there 5 times, 2-3 weeks
at a time, all visits work related. I know many many aussies, tolerated all
of them, some of them are even casual friends I guess. That said, none of
them are particularly intelligent, sophisticated or civilized. Mexicans (I
have worked there frequently) , for example, stomp all over you in that
regard.

In fact, I think that Paul's stereotype above fits aussies better than any
other folks on this earth that I've met. There is a reason why Lardass
McCarty ended up there. :-)

Cheers,

Margaret

[Robert Morein]

"paul packer" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:47:00 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> > wrote:
>
> >> Interesting reading. So Brian contacted Middius--I wonder why. Was it
> >> anything like the plea for understanding I received? I must say he has
> >> more twists in his tail than an anaconda.
> >>
> >Yes, it appears so. Every so often, Brian feels a need to try to con
> >somebody. He may have perceived Middius as the leader of a clique to
which
> >admission would represent a form of acceptance.
>
> Well, he certainly didn't perceive me as the leader of anything that
> might gain him acceptance. More like a soft touch. But I just wonder
> what the point is. Even if you convince someone you're a hard-done-by
> victim guilty of nothing, what have you achieved?
>
> Incidentally, I still receive at least 5, often 10 virus infected
> emails of the same type a day. Is this normal, or could I be on
> "someone's" list.
>
Based upon what I know about his behavior, which is more than I would want
to say here, it is very plausible that you are on "someone's" list.

[Arny Krueger]

"EddieM" > wrote in message



> A wanton Freudian slip referencing those lecherous images
> he hid in his harddrive for several years. Sinful
pictures of
> children copulating with adult males in all sorts of way.

Wow Eddie, you have one active imagination. Actually, if
were conversant with the facts that I posted about those
pictures, you'd sing a different tune.

> He all gets whipped-up when words like "basement" and
> "underwear" enters the discussion. Today is Sunday,
right?

It was Middius that got all whipped up by that stuff, Eddie.

[paul packer]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:19:34 GMT, "Margaret von B."
> wrote:


>No need to elevate yourselves, aussies.

Margaret, I don't think Ayn was putting herself above other
nationalities. You will admit though that the behaviour on RAO doesn't
speak well for US citizens.

> I've been there 5 times, 2-3 weeks
>at a time, all visits work related. I know many many aussies, tolerated all
>of them, some of them are even casual friends I guess. That said, none of
>them are particularly intelligent, sophisticated or civilized. Mexicans (I
>have worked there frequently) , for example, stomp all over you in that
>regard.

NONE of them is particularly intelligent, sophisticated or civilised?
I'm sure when you think about that you'll realize that's both
illogical and genetically impossible (plus you need to stay a little
longer and mix around more). How can one nation of the same root race
(for the most part) be notable lower in intelligence than another? How
that intelligence is displayed is another matter. In any case if you
check out our posts at aus.hi-fi re RAO you won't find a notable lack
of intelligence or sophistication, except in a couple of cases. But
then you have a couple of "cases" over your way too. :-)

That said, I will agree that we have more than our share of "ockers"
here, that sport is far too prominent, beer consumed far too often and
in too great quantities, and education and the arts woefully
neglected. However, you have Hollywood and rap. Enough said.

>
>In fact, I think that Paul's stereotype above fits aussies better than any
>other folks on this earth that I've met. There is a reason why Lardass
>McCarty ended up there. :-)

My description wasn't meant as a stereotype of Aussies. Don't you have
rowdy youths in the US? Of course you do. As for Bwian, we don't
deserve him--honestly we don't. We just haven't done anything
deserving that sort of punishment.

[GeoSynch]

The Gimp grinned:

> Sander deWaal said:

>> Is that some kind of illegal softwear? ;-)

> Making fun of the cripple again? For shame. <g>

He wasn't making fun of you, Pudge.


GeoSynch

[Arny Krueger]

"paul packer" > wrote in message

> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:19:34 GMT, "Margaret von B."
> > wrote:
>
>
>> No need to elevate yourselves, aussies.
>
> Margaret, I don't think Ayn was putting herself above
other
> nationalities. You will admit though that the behaviour on
RAO
> doesn't speak well for US citizens.

As if aus.hi-fi speaks well for aussies.

[paul packer]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:22:34 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"paul packer" > wrote in message

>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:19:34 GMT, "Margaret von B."
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> No need to elevate yourselves, aussies.
>>
>> Margaret, I don't think Ayn was putting herself above
>other
>> nationalities. You will admit though that the behaviour on
>RAO
>> doesn't speak well for US citizens.
>
>As if aus.hi-fi speaks well for aussies.

You may have noticed, Arnie, that some members of aus.hi-fi were
genuinely shocked at the antics of RAO posters and said so. I let that
speak for itself.

[Arny Krueger]

"paul packer" > wrote in message



> You may have noticed, Arnie, that some members of
aus.hi-fi
> were genuinely shocked at the antics of RAO posters and
said
> so. I let that speak for itself.

Speaks to their lack of introspection. Remember that to much
of the world, PA is a product of aus.hi-fi.

[paul packer]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:36:09 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"paul packer" > wrote in message

>
>
>> You may have noticed, Arnie, that some members of
>aus.hi-fi
>> were genuinely shocked at the antics of RAO posters and
>said
>> so. I let that speak for itself.
>
>Speaks to their lack of introspection. Remember that to much
>of the world, PA is a product of aus.hi-fi.

Well, that's one argument I have no answer to. The shame, the
shame.....

[Arny Krueger]

"paul packer" > wrote in message

> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:36:09 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
> > wrote:
>
>> "paul packer" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> You may have noticed, Arnie, that some members of
>> aus.hi-fi
>>> were genuinely shocked at the antics of RAO posters and
>> said
>>> so. I let that speak for itself.
>>
>> Speaks to their lack of introspection. Remember that to
much
>> of the world, PA is a product of aus.hi-fi.
>
> Well, that's one argument I have no answer to. The shame,
the
> shame.....

One arguement I've made of many such arguments.

One reason why I'm so widely feared.

[paul packer]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:00:14 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:


>One reason why I'm so widely feared.

You should add a smiley when you make jokes, Arnie.

[Ayn Marx]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "paul packer" > wrote in message
>
> > On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:36:09 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> "paul packer" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> You may have noticed, Arnie, that some members of
> >> aus.hi-fi
> >>> were genuinely shocked at the antics of RAO posters and
> >> said
> >>> so. I let that speak for itself.
> >>
> >> Speaks to their lack of introspection. Remember that to
> much
> >> of the world, PA is a product of aus.hi-fi.
> >
> > Well, that's one argument I have no answer to. The shame,
> the
> > shame.....
>
> One arguement I've made of many such arguments.
>
> One reason why I'm so widely feared.

Well then Arny dear you should pop back home to the Land of the Brave
and Zenophobic and scare the hell out of these misguided fools:-

<
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.music.classical.recordings/browse_frm/thread/fef73c7f872b1667/05fcca05d7a42ceb#05fcca05d7a42ceb
>

[George Middius]

paul packer said:

>>One reason why I'm so widely feared.

>You should add a smiley when you make jokes, Arnie.

Arnii didn't have time to do that because he had to stop typing and clean up the
mess.

[Clyde Slick]

"Ayn Marx" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
>> [dot] net> wrote in message
>>
>>
>> Let's look at what Middius writes, and see how he can only
>> speek in lies.
>>
> Blah Yakkity Yakkity Yak etc <........... Go away Arny. This is ROA
> stuff of little or no interest to anyone on Aus.Hi-Fi. If it is of
> interest to any Aus.Hi-Fi inmates could you please move over to ROA and
> leave us playing in our own sand pit?
>
Well, if you would keep your responses off RAO, that would
help you keep our responses off AHF.
Are you a slow learner?



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[Ayn Marx]

Clyde Slick wrote:
> "Ayn Marx" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> >
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> >> "George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
> >> [dot] net> wrote in message
> >>
> >>
> >> Let's look at what Middius writes, and see how he can only
> >> speek in lies.
> >>
> > Blah Yakkity Yakkity Yak etc <........... Go away Arny. This is ROA
> > stuff of little or no interest to anyone on Aus.Hi-Fi. If it is of
> > interest to any Aus.Hi-Fi inmates could you please move over to ROA and
> > leave us playing in our own sand pit?
> >
> Well, if you would keep your responses off RAO, that would
> help you keep our responses off AHF.
> Are you a slow learner?

A 'response' was posted on RAO in the vain hope that the neurotic fools
who have converted the enjoyment of music into an endlessly obsessive,
personal bitch session would all stay away from other groups.

[Clyde Slick]

"Ayn Marx" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>> "Ayn Marx" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Arny Krueger wrote:
>> >> "George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
>> >> [dot] net> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Let's look at what Middius writes, and see how he can only
>> >> speek in lies.
>> >>
>> > Blah Yakkity Yakkity Yak etc <........... Go away Arny. This is ROA
>> > stuff of little or no interest to anyone on Aus.Hi-Fi. If it is of
>> > interest to any Aus.Hi-Fi inmates could you please move over to ROA and
>> > leave us playing in our own sand pit?
>> >
>> Well, if you would keep your responses off RAO, that would
>> help you keep our responses off AHF.
>> Are you a slow learner?
>
> A 'response' was posted on RAO in the vain hope that the neurotic fools
> who have converted the enjoyment of music into an endlessly obsessive,
> personal bitch session would all stay away from other groups.
>

I see, your vanity is the operative principle.



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