View Full Version : Note to Sander
George M. Middius
July 1st 05, 10:50 PM
I know you try to stay above the fray, but did you take note of the
Kroopologists' public scheming to trash my ebay auctions? I think it's an
apposite question in light of your casual dismissal of the alleged police
report filed against Krooger. As you know very well, there were ample
grounds for the report that were provided by Krooger himself. And in this
country, telling tales to the cops is not something you do lightly because
prosecutors are not shy about charging people who waste their time.
Fortunately for Their intended victim, They came to Their senses before
doing any evil deeds. But Krooger & Ko. were relishing the thought of
getting even with me in the real world, off of Usenet, in a way that would
hurt me financially. I have no doubt that if They ever pool their collect
fractions of a wit and figure out my ebay ID, They will follow through on
Their scheming.
All because They can't keep up with the Normals in a battle of wits.
.....and seeks sympathy. :-(
George M. Middius wrote:
> I know you try to stay above the fray, but did you take note of the
> Kroopologists' public scheming to trash my ebay auctions? I think it's an
> apposite question in light of your casual dismissal of the alleged police
> report filed against Krooger. As you know very well, there were ample
> grounds for the report that were provided by Krooger himself. And in this
> country, telling tales to the cops is not something you do lightly because
> prosecutors are not shy about charging people who waste their time.
>
> Fortunately for Their intended victim, They came to Their senses before
> doing any evil deeds. But Krooger & Ko. were relishing the thought of
> getting even with me in the real world, off of Usenet, in a way that would
> hurt me financially. I have no doubt that if They ever pool their collect
> fractions of a wit and figure out my ebay ID, They will follow through on
> Their scheming.
>
> All because They can't keep up with the Normals in a battle of wits.
>
>
Get some meds, "George".
Lionel
July 2nd 05, 11:28 AM
George "Paranoid" Middius a écrit :
>
> ...I have no doubt that if They ever pool their collect
> fractions of a wit and figure out my ebay ID, They will follow through on
> Their scheming.
Thank you for this gem George.
It perfectly demonstrates how you are disconected from the
real life. :-(
Let me tell you something : for me you don't exist out of
RAO. Once again :
FOR *ME* YOU DON'T EXIST OUT OF RAO.
Is it clear ?
You can sleep quietly I really don't care about your Ebay
little business and I have no time to collect the hints that
you delicately seed on public NG. I'm sure you cannot
imagine how pathetic you are, eh George ?
Nota : Your above sentence is also an avow of your
nastiness. Just the fact that you can imagine such criminal
behaviour from me prove that you wouldn't have any scruple
to do that to me or to one of your numerous "enemies". :-(
Now let me repeat you the main information of this post :
FOR *ME* YOU DON'T EXIST OUT OF RAO.
Lionel wrote toGeorge "Paranoid" Middius:
>
>
<snipped>
>
> Now let me repeat you the main information of this post :
>
> FOR *ME* YOU DON'T EXIST OUT OF RAO.
>
>
"George Middius" doesn't exist *anywhere*. :-)
Arny Krueger
July 2nd 05, 11:57 AM
> wrote in message
ups.com
> Lionel wrote to George "Paranoid" Middius:
> <snipped>
>> Now let me repeat you the main information of this post :
>> FOR *ME* YOU DON'T EXIST OUT OF RAO.
> "George Middius" doesn't exist *anywhere*. :-)
Certainly not on eBay.
Sander deWaal
July 2nd 05, 01:26 PM
George M. Middius said:
>I know you try to stay above the fray, but did you take note of the
>Kroopologists' public scheming to trash my ebay auctions? I think it's an
>apposite question in light of your casual dismissal of the alleged police
>report filed against Krooger. As you know very well, there were ample
>grounds for the report that were provided by Krooger himself. And in this
>country, telling tales to the cops is not something you do lightly because
>prosecutors are not shy about charging people who waste their time.
But it is still taking things out of the (humorous) scene of usenet
into the real world.
I mock Arny and others on RAO just as much as the next guy, but I
would never think about taking it off usenet.
And to be honest, I don't believe for a second that Arny is/was a
pedophile.
>Fortunately for Their intended victim, They came to Their senses before
>doing any evil deeds. But Krooger & Ko. were relishing the thought of
>getting even with me in the real world, off of Usenet, in a way that would
>hurt me financially. I have no doubt that if They ever pool their collect
>fractions of a wit and figure out my ebay ID, They will follow through on
>Their scheming.
>All because They can't keep up with the Normals in a battle of wits.
Probably. I would object to such behaviour as much as I object to
filing a police report on Arny Krueger.
I also object to revealing people's workplaces, addresses etc., as we
can see happens to Dave Weil at the moment.
All I can do is to voice my disagreeing with such practices.
Oh well, I guess I'm just too much influenced by the fact that I'm a
moderator on a Dutch forum, trying to do the same in RAO is very
wishful thinking on my part.
--
"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005
mick
July 2nd 05, 02:11 PM
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:26:35 +0200, Sander deWaal wrote:
<snip>
>
> Oh well, I guess I'm just too much influenced by the fact that I'm a
> moderator on a Dutch forum, trying to do the same in RAO is very
> wishful thinking on my part.
lol! - just trying to imagine it...
Try comp.os.linux.advocacy sometime. They make RAO look like amateurs in
childlike behaveour. ;-)
--
Mick
(no M$ software on here... :-) )
Web: http://www.nascom.info
Web: http://projectedsound.tk
George M. Middius
July 2nd 05, 02:25 PM
Sander deWaal said:
> >I know you try to stay above the fray, but did you take note of the
> >Kroopologists' public scheming to trash my ebay auctions? I think it's an
> >apposite question in light of your casual dismissal of the alleged police
> >report filed against Krooger. As you know very well, there were ample
> >grounds for the report that were provided by Krooger himself. And in this
> >country, telling tales to the cops is not something you do lightly because
> >prosecutors are not shy about charging people who waste their time.
> But it is still taking things out of the (humorous) scene of usenet
> into the real world.
I think Krooger's behavior crossed the line. Law-abiding citizens are
obliged to report crimes of which they have knowledge.
There is a big difference between tortious behavior, such as slander or
defamation, and actual crimes against persons or property. If somebody
claimed to have committed a crime, wouldn't you report that to the
authorities if you knew his identity? For myself, I was not sure Krooger had
committed the crime of child pornography. If I had been sure, I might have
reported him myself.
A final point: Harassment such as has been committed against Gregipus (the
flowers) or Phoebe (involving his place of employment) is not equivalent to
reporting criminals to the authorities. By harassing individuals, you commit
a crime. By reporting wrongdoers, you initiate a process that is supposed to
hold everybody accountable for their actions. Morally, they are pretty much
opposites. However, the crucial point of difference is whether an actual
crime is known to have occurred.
> I mock Arny and others on RAO just as much as the next guy, but I
> would never think about taking it off usenet.
Neither would I. But if you look at the facts, every instance of "taking it
off Usenet" has been committed by a 'borg or a Kroopologist. This includes
Bwian, who harassed Phoebe Johnston; some clown whose name I forgot who
harassed trotsky; Thing and Slut and Styncho, who tried to instigate trouble
for dave at his workplace and me at my residence, although they have yet to
follow through on their own; Druggie Hoggin, who placed crank phone calls to
several people including myself; and again Bwian McDog****, who complained
about several people's Usenet posts to their ISPs.
Note that no harassment of Ferstler actually took place. There were claims
of bad reviews of his books on Amazon, but (a) they were anonymous and
untraceable, and so may have been created by Harold himself, and (b) Amazon
offers that service for the express purpose of *soliciting* opinions. So
much for Little ****'s claims that I or anybody else "harassed" Clerkie.
> And to be honest, I don't believe for a second that Arny is/was a
> pedophile.
You're entitled to believe that. I think the evidence raises suspicion and
reporting it to the authorities is not farfetched, nor is it harassment.
> >Fortunately for Their intended victim, They came to Their senses before
> >doing any evil deeds. But Krooger & Ko. were relishing the thought of
> >getting even with me in the real world, off of Usenet, in a way that would
> >hurt me financially. I have no doubt that if They ever pool their collect
> >fractions of a wit and figure out my ebay ID, They will follow through on
> >Their scheming.
>
> >All because They can't keep up with the Normals in a battle of wits.
>
>
> Probably. I would object to such behaviour as much as I object to
> filing a police report on Arny Krueger.
Please do object to it. Please express your opinion to "Lionel", "tor",
"Geosynch", and Krooger. They are the ones who are formulating plans for
harassment, posting addresses, and seemingly encouraging mischief.
> I also object to revealing people's workplaces, addresses etc., as we
> can see happens to Dave Weil at the moment.
Good to hear that. Now you're on record as disapproving of "Lionel"'s
behavior.
> All I can do is to voice my disagreeing with such practices.
And you have done so, at least in a general way.
> Oh well, I guess I'm just too much influenced by the fact that I'm a
> moderator on a Dutch forum, trying to do the same in RAO is very
> wishful thinking on my part.
If you want to take a stand, how about zeroing in on Little ****'s
hypocrisy?
Sander deWaal
July 2nd 05, 02:56 PM
George M. Middius said:
<snip>
>> Probably. I would object to such behaviour as much as I object to
>> filing a police report on Arny Krueger.
>Please do object to it. Please express your opinion to "Lionel", "tor",
>"Geosynch", and Krooger. They are the ones who are formulating plans for
>harassment, posting addresses, and seemingly encouraging mischief.
I think every regular on RAO knows where I stand, including the
"Borgs" and the "Normals".
See also below.
>> I also object to revealing people's workplaces, addresses etc., as we
>> can see happens to Dave Weil at the moment.
>Good to hear that. Now you're on record as disapproving of "Lionel"'s
>behavior.
His behaviour sometimes, not his persona.
>If you want to take a stand, how about zeroing in on Little ****'s
>hypocrisy?
My stand is that I don't zero in on particular persons, I just make a
note when something's reached my limits of decency.
Which are, I admit, a bit flexible.
And hypocrisy is something we're all guilty off to some extent,
including myself :-)
--
"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005
Clyde Slick
July 2nd 05, 08:48 PM
"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> His behaviour sometimes, not his persona.
>
>
What is the difference between his behavior
and his persona? Behavior is a good part
of persona.
Persona - The role that one assumes or displays in public or
society; one's public image or personality, as distinguished from the inner
self.
You like his persona?
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Lionel
July 2nd 05, 08:58 PM
Middius' shadow wrote :
> "Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>His behaviour sometimes, not his persona.
>>
>>
>
>
> What is the difference between his behavior
> and his persona? Behavior is a good part
> of persona.
>
> Persona - The role that one assumes or displays in public or
> society; one's public image or personality, as distinguished from the inner
> self.
How could you know since you haven't any personality ? ;-)
Clyde Slick
July 2nd 05, 09:06 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Middius' shadow wrote :
>
>> "Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>>His behaviour sometimes, not his persona.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> What is the difference between his behavior
>> and his persona? Behavior is a good part
>> of persona.
>>
>> Persona - The role that one assumes or displays in public or
>> society; one's public image or personality, as distinguished from the
>> inner self.
>
> How could you know since you haven't any personality ? ;-)
Sit down and shut up, I wasn't talking to you.
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Lionel
July 2nd 05, 09:19 PM
Clyde Slick a écrit :
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Middius' shadow wrote :
>>
>>
>>>"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>His behaviour sometimes, not his persona.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What is the difference between his behavior
>>>and his persona? Behavior is a good part
>>>of persona.
>>>
>>>Persona - The role that one assumes or displays in public or
>>>society; one's public image or personality, as distinguished from the
>>>inner self.
>>
>>How could you know since you haven't any personality ? ;-)
>
>
> Sit down and shut up
Make me !
> I wasn't talking to you.
Just like the day when you have insulted my mother.
George M. Middius
July 2nd 05, 09:21 PM
Clyde Slick said:
> > His behaviour sometimes, not his persona.
> What is the difference between his behavior
> and his persona? Behavior is a good part
> of persona.
>
> Persona - The role that one assumes or displays in public or
> society; one's public image or personality, as distinguished from the inner
> self.
>
> You like his persona?
It's marginally better than Krooger's persona.
Sander deWaal
July 2nd 05, 09:58 PM
"Clyde Slick" > said:
>What is the difference between his behavior
>and his persona? Behavior is a good part
>of persona.
There usually is a difference between how someone really * is * and
how someone acts on usenet.
I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO, admittedly it's
an effect mirrir, but nevertheless a mirror.
One can look at it and think: "is this how I am, be it exaggerated?"
Or one can blame the mirror..........
--
"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005
Lionel
July 2nd 05, 10:33 PM
In >, Sander deWaal wrote :
> "Clyde Slick" > said:
>
>>What is the difference between his behavior
>>and his persona? Behavior is a good part
>>of persona.
>
>
> There usually is a difference between how someone really * is * and
> how someone acts on usenet.
>
> I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO, admittedly it's
> an effect mirrir, but nevertheless a mirror.
> One can look at it and think: "is this how I am, be it exaggerated?"
> Or one can blame the mirror..........
If only it could be always as clear for me. ;-)
Clyde Slick
July 2nd 05, 11:13 PM
"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > said:
>
>>What is the difference between his behavior
>>and his persona? Behavior is a good part
>>of persona.
>
>
> There usually is a difference between how someone really * is * and
> how someone acts on usenet.
>
> I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO, admittedly it's
> an effect mirrir, but nevertheless a mirror.
> One can look at it and think: "is this how I am, be it exaggerated?"
> Or one can blame the mirror..........
>
That's not what I am talking about. I am not talking about Lionel's
real life. That's reality. I'm talking about his persona, what he projects
of himself here.
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Lionel
July 2nd 05, 11:43 PM
In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> "Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Clyde Slick" > said:
>>
>>>What is the difference between his behavior
>>>and his persona? Behavior is a good part
>>>of persona.
>>
>>
>> There usually is a difference between how someone really * is * and
>> how someone acts on usenet.
>>
>> I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO, admittedly it's
>> an effect mirrir, but nevertheless a mirror.
>> One can look at it and think: "is this how I am, be it exaggerated?"
>> Or one can blame the mirror..........
>>
>
> That's not what I am talking about. I am not talking about Lionel's
> real life. That's reality. I'm talking about his persona, what he projects
> of himself here.
Are you really that stupid Sackman ?
He just gave you the answer : watch the mirror. ;-)
Clyde Slick
July 2nd 05, 11:45 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
>>
>>
>> That's not what I am talking about. I am not talking about Lionel's
>> real life. That's reality. I'm talking about his persona, what he
>> projects
>> of himself here.
>
> Are you really that stupid Sackman ?
> He just gave you the answer : watch the mirror. ;-)
Not to the question I asked.
BTW, the answer he gave applies to most people here.
Its what we do vis a vis Arny.
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Lionel
July 3rd 05, 12:08 AM
Middius' shadow wrote :
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not what I am talking about. I am not talking about Lionel's
>>> real life. That's reality. I'm talking about his persona, what he
>>> projects
>>> of himself here.
>>
>> Are you really that stupid Sackman ?
>> He just gave you the answer : watch the mirror. ;-)
>
> Not to the question I asked.
>
> BTW, the answer he gave applies to most people here.
Note that I must be honest I cannot mirror you as disgusting as you are
> Its what we do vis a vis Arny.
Don't say "we" since you are just imitating Middius.
Lionel wrote:
> Middius' shadow wrote :
>
> > "Lionel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That's not what I am talking about. I am not talking about Lionel's
> >>> real life. That's reality. I'm talking about his persona, what he
> >>> projects
> >>> of himself here.
> >>
> >> Are you really that stupid Sackman ?
> >> He just gave you the answer : watch the mirror. ;-)
> >
> > Not to the question I asked.
> >
> > BTW, the answer he gave applies to most people here.
>
> Note that I must be honest I cannot mirror you as disgusting as you are
>
> > Its what we do vis a vis Arny.
>
> Don't say "we" since you are just imitating Middius.
>
>
A little dog and his Master.
>
>
Sit! Stay! Beg! Rollover!! ;-)
dave weil
July 3rd 05, 07:09 AM
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:58:08 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO
Nah, it's not as benign as that. He's definitely "in the game" now.
Lionel
July 3rd 05, 06:20 PM
dave weil a écrit :
> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:58:08 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>
>
>>I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO
>
>
> Nah, it's not as benign as that. He's definitely "in the game" now.
That's right Weil. The game that
you lost,
again.
:-D
dave weil
July 3rd 05, 06:37 PM
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:20:57 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:
>dave weil a écrit :
>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:58:08 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO
>>
>>
>> Nah, it's not as benign as that. He's definitely "in the game" now.
>
>That's right Weil. The game that
>
>you lost,
>
>again.
Then your indignation can be dismissed.
The fact that you choose to put peoples' names in threads simply to
get them in the google record under unfavorable lights is pretty
despicable, but I'll live. If you want to try to make me a "victim' in
the way that you perceive Howard and Arnold have been made, you've
failed. But I'll put you on notice that I see through the cheap
theatrics. You'd be on firmer moral ground if this were a "tactic"
that I frequently employed. But, since I don't, you just make yourself
out to be a very small man.
<shrug>
Lionel
July 3rd 05, 06:48 PM
dave weil a écrit :
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:20:57 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil a écrit :
>>
>>>On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:58:08 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO
>>>
>>>
>>>Nah, it's not as benign as that. He's definitely "in the game" now.
>>
>>That's right Weil. The game that
>>
>>you lost,
>>
>>again.
>
>
> Then your indignation can be dismissed.
>
> The fact that you choose to put peoples' names in threads simply to
> get them in the google record under unfavorable lights is pretty
> despicable, but I'll live. If you want to try to make me a "victim' in
> the way that you perceive Howard and Arnold have been made, you've
> failed. But I'll put you on notice that I see through the cheap
> theatrics. You'd be on firmer moral ground if this were a "tactic"
> that I frequently employed. But, since I don't, you just make yourself
> out to be a very small man.
>
> <shrug>
>
<LOL>
dave weil
July 3rd 05, 06:54 PM
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:48:15 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:
>dave weil a écrit :
>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:20:57 +0200, Lionel >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>dave weil a écrit :
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:58:08 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nah, it's not as benign as that. He's definitely "in the game" now.
>>>
>>>That's right Weil. The game that
>>>
>>>you lost,
>>>
>>>again.
>>
>>
>> Then your indignation can be dismissed.
>>
>> The fact that you choose to put peoples' names in threads simply to
>> get them in the google record under unfavorable lights is pretty
>> despicable, but I'll live. If you want to try to make me a "victim' in
>> the way that you perceive Howard and Arnold have been made, you've
>> failed. But I'll put you on notice that I see through the cheap
>> theatrics. You'd be on firmer moral ground if this were a "tactic"
>> that I frequently employed. But, since I don't, you just make yourself
>> out to be a very small man.
>>
>> <shrug>
>>
>
><LOL>
Yep, no rebuttal. Tacit agreement with the "diagnosis", noted.
Lionel
July 3rd 05, 07:15 PM
dave weil a écrit :
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:48:15 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil a écrit :
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:20:57 +0200, Lionel >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>dave weil a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:58:08 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nah, it's not as benign as that. He's definitely "in the game" now.
>>>>
>>>>That's right Weil. The game that
>>>>
>>>>you lost,
>>>>
>>>>again.
>>>
>>>
>>>Then your indignation can be dismissed.
>>>
>>>The fact that you choose to put peoples' names in threads simply to
>>>get them in the google record under unfavorable lights is pretty
>>>despicable, but I'll live. If you want to try to make me a "victim' in
>>>the way that you perceive Howard and Arnold have been made, you've
>>>failed. But I'll put you on notice that I see through the cheap
>>>theatrics. You'd be on firmer moral ground if this were a "tactic"
>>>that I frequently employed. But, since I don't, you just make yourself
>>>out to be a very small man.
>>>
>>><shrug>
>>>
>><LOL>
>
>
> Yep, no rebuttal. Tacit agreement with the "diagnosis", noted.
Seriously Weil, who want to rebute such grotesque cheap
analyze ? IMHO it's better to laugh.
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 07:48 PM
"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:20:57 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>>dave weil a écrit :
>>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:58:08 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've said it before: Lionel is using a mirror on RAO
>>>
>>>
>>> Nah, it's not as benign as that. He's definitely "in the game" now.
>>
>>That's right Weil. The game that
>>
>>you lost,
>>
>>again.
>
> Then your indignation can be dismissed.
>
> The fact that you choose to put peoples' names in threads simply to
> get them in the google record under unfavorable lights is pretty
> despicable, but I'll live. If you want to try to make me a "victim' in
> the way that you perceive Howard and Arnold have been made, you've
> failed. But I'll put you on notice that I see through the cheap
> theatrics. You'd be on firmer moral ground if this were a "tactic"
> that I frequently employed. But, since I don't, you just make yourself
> out to be a very small man.
>
> <shrug>
>
Lionel's mirror is the kind that magnifies and distorts.
I don't put his name in thread headers, not for a long time.
He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
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Lionel
July 3rd 05, 08:01 PM
Middius shadow wrote :
> Lionel's mirror is the kind that magnifies and distorts.
>
> I don't put his name in thread headers, not for a long time.
LOL ! Be Careful Sackman, Richman has used of this tactic
just before he vanished from RAO. :-D
> He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
You have accused me of being an anti-semitic.
Clyde Slick whined:
>
>
<snipped>
>
>
> He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
>
>
>
Look out! Next thing you know, he'll be sending duplicitous private
emails, making accusations of criminal behavior and filing false police
reports. ;-)
Lionel
July 3rd 05, 08:37 PM
a écrit :
> Clyde Slick whined:
>
>>
> <snipped>
>
>>
>>He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Look out! Next thing you know, he'll be sending duplicitous private
> emails, making accusations of criminal behavior and filing false police
> reports. ;-)
Art Sackman is full of such sick paradox. Per example 2 days
ago he was writing me :
"Your responses are disproportionate escalations of ill will"
....and today you can read from him on RAO :
"La Salope lets me **** on her face for free.
She has more class than you though, she won't swallow. "
This is typically Middius's words. Sackman is totally
depersonalized.
LOL, I remember that he was complaining that some friends
have betrayed him because of his political opinions...
Poor Sackman he even didn't understand that their decision
had nothing to do with politic. :-)
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 09:01 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Middius shadow wrote :
>
>> Lionel's mirror is the kind that magnifies and distorts.
>>
>> I don't put his name in thread headers, not for a long time.
>
> LOL ! Be Careful Sackman, Richman has used of this tactic just before he
> vanished from RAO. :-D
>
>> He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
>
> You have accused me of being an anti-semitic.
Anyonr can buy your little red book of collected thoughts,
and figure that out for himself.
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Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 09:03 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>
> LOL, I remember that he was complaining that some friends have betrayed
> him because of his political opinions...
You are making things up.
> Poor Sackman he even didn't understand that their decision had nothing to
> do with politic. :-)
>
more gibberish
>
>
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Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 09:07 PM
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Clyde Slick whined:
>>
>>
> <snipped>
>>
>>
>> He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Look out! Next thing you know, he'll be sending duplicitous private
> emails,
Nope
making accusations of criminal behavior
Like Lionel's charges of sexual tourism? Nope
and filing false police
> reports. ;-)
>
Nope, I will file no false ones.
I have no interest even in filing true ones,
unless I have been threatened or harmed
by any prospective criminal behavior.
What someone like Arny does with
his self described kiddie porn collection is
his business. Of course, we all know he lied
when he said he had such a collection.
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Lionel
July 3rd 05, 09:08 PM
In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>> LOL, I remember that he was complaining that some friends have betrayed
>> him because of his political opinions...
>
> You are making things up.
;-)
>> Poor Sackman he even didn't understand that their decision had nothing to
>> do with politic. :-)
>>
>
> more gibberish
Yes but you understood.
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 09:11 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> LOL, I remember that he was complaining that some friends have betrayed
>>> him because of his political opinions...
>>
>> You are making things up.
>
> ;-)
>
>>> Poor Sackman he even didn't understand that their decision had nothing
>>> to
>>> do with politic. :-)
>>>
>>
>> more gibberish
>
> Yes but you understood.
Sorry, I am not able to read infantile minds.
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Lionel
July 3rd 05, 09:13 PM
In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Middius shadow wrote :
>>
>>> Lionel's mirror is the kind that magnifies and distorts.
>>>
>>> I don't put his name in thread headers, not for a long time.
>>
>> LOL ! Be Careful Sackman, Richman has used of this tactic just before he
>> vanished from RAO. :-D
>>
>
>>> He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
>>
>> You have accused me of being an anti-semitic.
>
> Anyonr can buy your little red book of collected thoughts,
> and figure that out for himself.
Why are you complaining to have your name in the headers ?
Since you are the valiant knight who is fighting the anti-semitic
monster. :-D
Lionel wrote:
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> >
> > "Lionel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Middius shadow wrote :
> >>
> >>> Lionel's mirror is the kind that magnifies and distorts.
> >>>
> >>> I don't put his name in thread headers, not for a long time.
> >>
> >> LOL ! Be Careful Sackman, Richman has used of this tactic just before he
> >> vanished from RAO. :-D
> >>
> >
> >>> He still puts my name in derogatory thread headers.
> >>
> >> You have accused me of being an anti-semitic.
> >
> > Anyonr can buy your little red book of collected thoughts,
> > and figure that out for himself.
>
> Why are you complaining to have your name in the headers ?
> Since you are the valiant knight who is fighting the anti-semitic
> monster. :-D
>
>
Mama Sack taught him to whine, early and often.
Lionel
July 3rd 05, 09:20 PM
Clyde Slick wrote :
> Like Lionel's charges of sexual tourism? Nope
You don't have any problem to do that with Arnold Krueger.
You just receive the same treatment... Why are you complaining ?
Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have sexual
relations with very young children.
I bet that in third world countries that you visit you don't ask for their
licence driver isn'it ?
Note that anyone can buy your little pink book of collected sexual phantasm,
and figure that out for himself.
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 09:20 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
> Why are you complaining to have your name in the headers ?
> Since you are the valiant knight who is fighting the anti-semitic
> monster. :-D
That's why.
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And he always swallows!
Clyde Slick wrote:
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
> >
> >>
> >> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> >> ...
>
> >
> > Why are you complaining to have your name in the headers ?
> > Since you are the valiant knight who is fighting the anti-semitic
> > monster. :-D
>
>
> That's why.
>
>
What goes around.....
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 10:06 PM
> wrote in message
oups.com...
> And he always swallows!
>
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>>
>> >
>> > Why are you complaining to have your name in the headers ?
>> > Since you are the valiant knight who is fighting the anti-semitic
>> > monster. :-D
>>
>>
>> That's why.
>>
>>
>
> What goes around.....
>
Like I said, I don't do that anynore, but for this exception, and
I don't like doing it. I will desist.
This exception was an instructional lesson, and an answer to your question.
You customarily engage in this nasty tactic.
Your magnifying and distorting mirror is cracked.
Please fix it.
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Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 10:13 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote :
>
>> Like Lionel's charges of sexual tourism? Nope
>
> You don't have any problem to do that with Arnold Krueger.
> You just receive the same treatment... Why are you complaining ?
>
Arny admitted to having child porn.
he also falsely DIRECTLY accused a number of people
of sending him such. After I figured out
he was lying about having kiddie porn, I desisted.
> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have sexual
> relations with very young children.
That is a lie!.
> I bet that in third world countries that you visit you don't ask for their
> licence driver isn'it ?
>
What third world countires?
What is this gibberish?
> Note that anyone can buy your little pink book of collected sexual
> phantasm,
> and figure that out for himself.
Phantasm: Something apparently seen but having no physical reality; a
phantom or an apparition
That says it all.
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Lionel
July 3rd 05, 10:16 PM
Middius' shadow wrote :
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>
>>>
>>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>
>>
>> Why are you complaining to have your name in the headers ?
>> Since you are the valiant knight who is fighting the anti-semitic
>> monster. :-D
>
>
> That's why.
Thank you Sackman. Now that I am famous I hope I will be able to be
rich. ;-)
Advice : for more effect you should have written "monster" instead of
"sleazeball". Usually people doesn't care about sleazeballs...
Even for selling your own propaganda you need someone help. What a failure.
:-D
Lionel
July 3rd 05, 10:31 PM
In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Clyde Slick wrote :
>>
>>> Like Lionel's charges of sexual tourism? Nope
>>
>> You don't have any problem to do that with Arnold Krueger.
>> You just receive the same treatment... Why are you complaining ?
>>
>
> Arny admitted to having child porn.
> he also falsely DIRECTLY accused a number of people
> of sending him such. After I figured out
> he was lying about having kiddie porn, I desisted.
>
>
>> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
>> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have sexual
>> relations with very young children.
>
> That is a lie!.
You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in author
one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy" "pussies"
"young"...
>> I bet that in third world countries that you visit you don't ask for
>> their licence driver isn'it ?
>>
>
> What third world countires?
> What is this gibberish?
Simply that you have publicly recognized that you love to have sexual
relation to very young girls. I bet that the countries that you visit
during your numerous travels you don't care to ask them their licence
driver to verify they are adult or not.
Note that since you don't visit France... :-)
>> Note that anyone can buy your little pink book of collected sexual
>> phantasm,
>> and figure that out for himself.
>
> Phantasm: Something apparently seen but having no physical reality; a
> phantom or an apparition
> That says it all.
No, not all Sackman :
Main Entry: phan·tasm
Pronunciation: 'fan-"ta-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fantasme, from Old French, from Latin phantasma,
from Greek, from phantazein to present to the mind -- more at FANCY
1 : a product of fantasy: as a : delusive appearance : ILLUSION b : GHOST,
SPECTER c : a figment of the imagination
2 : a mental representation of a real object
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 11:34 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Middius' shadow wrote :
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> Why are you complaining to have your name in the headers ?
>>> Since you are the valiant knight who is fighting the anti-semitic
>>> monster. :-D
>>
>>
>> That's why.
>
> Thank you Sackman. Now that I am famous I hope I will be able to be
> rich. ;-)
>
> Advice : for more effect you should have written "monster" instead of
> "sleazeball". Usually people doesn't care about sleazeballs...
> Even for selling your own propaganda you need someone help. What a
> failure.
>
> :-D
No, you are just a sleazeball.
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Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 11:42 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
>>
>>> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
>>> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have sexual
>>> relations with very young children.
>>
>> That is a lie!.
>
> You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in author
> one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy" "pussies"
> "young"...
>
LIAR!
you conveniently left "child" or "children" out of your search parametrs
>>> I bet that in third world countries that you visit you don't ask for
>>> their licence driver isn'it ?
>>>
>>
>> What third world countires?
>> What is this gibberish?
>
> Simply that you have publicly recognized that you love to have sexual
> relation to very young girls. I bet that the countries that you visit
> during your numerous travels you don't care to ask them their licence
> driver to verify they are adult or not.
>
You are a bad gambler, indeed
> Note that since you don't visit France... :-)
>
>>> Note that anyone can buy your little pink book of collected sexual
>>> phantasm,
>>> and figure that out for himself.
>>
>> Phantasm: Something apparently seen but having no physical reality; a
>> phantom or an apparition
>> That says it all.
>
> No, not all Sackman :
>
> Main Entry: phan·tasm
> Pronunciation: 'fan-"ta-z&m
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English fantasme, from Old French, from Latin phantasma,
> from Greek, from phantazein to present to the mind -- more at FANCY
> 1 : a product of fantasy: as a : delusive appearance : ILLUSION b : GHOST,
> SPECTER c : a figment of the imagination
> 2 : a mental representation of a real object
>
yes, you are delusional.
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Lionel
July 3rd 05, 11:45 PM
In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>
>>>
>>>> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
>>>> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have
>>>> sexual relations with very young children.
>>>
>>> That is a lie!.
>>
>> You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in
>> author one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy" "pussies"
>> "young"...
>>
>
> LIAR!
> you conveniently left "child" or "children" out of your search parametrs
The cops are nearly at your door Sackman. Just wait and see. :-)
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 11:47 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
>>>>> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have
>>>>> sexual relations with very young children.
>>>>
>>>> That is a lie!.
>>>
>>> You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in
>>> author one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy" "pussies"
>>> "young"...
>>>
>>
>> LIAR!
>> you conveniently left "child" or "children" out of your search parametrs
>
> The cops are nearly at your door Sackman. Just wait and see. :-)
haw, haw, haw!
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Lionel
July 3rd 05, 11:49 PM
Middius' shadow wrote :
>>> Phantasm: Something apparently seen but having no physical reality; a
>>> phantom or an apparition
>>> That says it all.
>>
>> No, not all Sackman :
>>
>> Main Entry: phan·tasm
>> Pronunciation: 'fan-"ta-z&m
>> Function: noun
>> Etymology: Middle English fantasme, from Old French, from Latin
>> phantasma, from Greek, from phantazein to present to the mind -- more at
>> FANCY 1 : a product of fantasy: as a : delusive appearance : ILLUSION b :
>> GHOST, SPECTER c : a figment of the imagination
>> 2 : a mental representation of a real object
>>
>
> yes, you are delusional.
Yes, one more time I prove that you are an idiot who doesn't even know
correctly his own language.
The lesson is free Sackman.
Lionel
July 3rd 05, 11:50 PM
In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>
>>>
>>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
>>>>>> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have
>>>>>> sexual relations with very young children.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a lie!.
>>>>
>>>> You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in
>>>> author one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy"
>>>> "pussies" "young"...
>>>>
>>>
>>> LIAR!
>>> you conveniently left "child" or "children" out of your search parametrs
>>
>> The cops are nearly at your door Sackman. Just wait and see. :-)
>
> haw, haw, haw!
If you laugh to much you will not have the time to hide all the pedophile
stuff that you keep at home. ;-)
Clyde Slick
July 3rd 05, 11:51 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Middius' shadow wrote :
>
>>>> Phantasm: Something apparently seen but having no physical reality; a
>>>> phantom or an apparition
>>>> That says it all.
>>>
>>> No, not all Sackman :
>>>
>>> Main Entry: phan·tasm
>>> Pronunciation: 'fan-"ta-z&m
>>> Function: noun
>>> Etymology: Middle English fantasme, from Old French, from Latin
>>> phantasma, from Greek, from phantazein to present to the mind -- more at
>>> FANCY 1 : a product of fantasy: as a : delusive appearance : ILLUSION b
>>> :
>>> GHOST, SPECTER c : a figment of the imagination
>>> 2 : a mental representation of a real object
>>>
>>
>> yes, you are delusional.
>
> Yes, one more time I prove that you are an idiot who doesn't even know
> correctly his own language.
>
> The lesson is free Sackman.
You screwed it up, big time.
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Lionel wrote:
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
> >
> > "Lionel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
> >>>> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have
> >>>> sexual relations with very young children.
> >>>
> >>> That is a lie!.
> >>
> >> You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in
> >> author one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy" "pussies"
> >> "young"...
> >>
> >
> > LIAR!
> > you conveniently left "child" or "children" out of your search parametrs
>
> The cops are nearly at your door Sackman. Just wait and see. :-)
>
>
We're almost there! We need only find a fat, stupid, burger chomping,
diabetic asshole to file some false police reports.
Clyde Slick
July 4th 05, 04:13 AM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
>>>>>>> You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have
>>>>>>> sexual relations with very young children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a lie!.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in
>>>>> author one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy"
>>>>> "pussies" "young"...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LIAR!
>>>> you conveniently left "child" or "children" out of your search
>>>> parametrs
>>>
>>> The cops are nearly at your door Sackman. Just wait and see. :-)
>>
>> haw, haw, haw!
>
> If you laugh to much you will not have the time to hide all the pedophile
> stuff that you keep at home. ;-)
>
Oh yeah, Arny sent me his imaginary collection!
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Clyde Slick
July 4th 05, 04:14 AM
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>
> We're almost there! We need only find a fat, stupid, burger chomping,
> diabetic asshole to file some false police reports.
>
You will do just fine!
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Lionel
July 4th 05, 08:40 AM
Clyde Slick a écrit :
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>
>>We're almost there! We need only find a fat, stupid, burger chomping,
>>diabetic asshole to file some false police reports.
>>
>
> You will do just fine!
No way.
It's a job for a specialist. ;-)
Lionel
July 4th 05, 09:07 AM
Clyde Slick a écrit :
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>
>>
>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>>In >, Clyde Slick wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not that in my case it is not false accusations.
>>>>>>>>You have recognize *yourself* on this forum that you like to have
>>>>>>>>sexual relations with very young children.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is a lie!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are a liar if someone is intersted he can make a search with in
>>>>>>author one of your numerous nicknames and with keyword "pussy"
>>>>>>"pussies" "young"...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>LIAR!
>>>>>you conveniently left "child" or "children" out of your search
>>>>>parametrs
>>>>
>>>>The cops are nearly at your door Sackman. Just wait and see. :-)
>>>
>>>haw, haw, haw!
>>
>>If you laugh to much you will not have the time to hide all the pedophile
>>stuff that you keep at home. ;-)
>>
>
>
> Oh yeah, Arny sent me his imaginary collection!
Do you mean that Arny has sent you back your collection ?
Good it is now urgent that we found our hyperglycemic oily
asshole.
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