FM Antenna Resources

[[email protected]]

More detailed information may be found in ARRL and RSGB volumes
intended for the amateur radio community. Armed with some basic test
equipment you can consistently beat antenna solutions offered in the
high end market with wire, insulators, or baluns, or if room permits
the erection of a commercially made antenna and rotor built for the TV
or Amateur markets. Many perfectly good Yagi antenna and rotor setups
were installed in the sixties, seventies and eighties and are in disuse
due to cable TV and satellite installs. If installed under a roof as
many were they may be in excellent condition and awaiting repurposing ,
especially those specifically designed for FM band reception (as most
were).

[Robert Morein]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> More detailed information may be found in ARRL and RSGB volumes
> intended for the amateur radio community. Armed with some basic test
> equipment you can consistently beat antenna solutions offered in the
> high end market with wire, insulators, or baluns, or if room permits
> the erection of a commercially made antenna and rotor built for the TV
> or Amateur markets. Many perfectly good Yagi antenna and rotor setups
> were installed in the sixties, seventies and eighties and are in disuse
> due to cable TV and satellite installs. If installed under a roof as
> many were they may be in excellent condition and awaiting repurposing ,
> especially those specifically designed for FM band reception (as most
> were).
>
The Yagi is a wideband, low gain design.
It will undoubtedly work better than a folded dipole.
However, Radio Shack has a very nice FM beam, p/n 15-2163
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2163
for $25 !
Many people have hung these from high ceilings as mobiles. Alternately, the
antenna can be tacked to a wall.
Because the directionality vastly reduces multipath, it can provide better
reception even if aiming it at the strongest signal is not possible.

[[email protected]]

Robert Morein wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > More detailed information may be found in ARRL and RSGB volumes
> > intended for the amateur radio community. Armed with some basic test
> > equipment you can consistently beat antenna solutions offered in the
> > high end market with wire, insulators, or baluns, or if room permits
> > the erection of a commercially made antenna and rotor built for the TV
> > or Amateur markets. Many perfectly good Yagi antenna and rotor setups
> > were installed in the sixties, seventies and eighties and are in disuse
> > due to cable TV and satellite installs. If installed under a roof as
> > many were they may be in excellent condition and awaiting repurposing ,
> > especially those specifically designed for FM band reception (as most
> > were).
> >
> The Yagi is a wideband, low gain design.
> It will undoubtedly work better than a folded dipole.
> However, Radio Shack has a very nice FM beam, p/n 15-2163
> http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2163
> for $25 !
> Many people have hung these from high ceilings as mobiles. Alternately, the
> antenna can be tacked to a wall.
> Because the directionality vastly reduces multipath, it can provide better
> reception even if aiming it at the strongest signal is not possible.
>
>
Are they available in Australia? ;-)

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:11:02 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> wrote:


>The Yagi is a wideband,
********! (5)

>Low gain design.
********! (6)

Stop making this up as you go along, Bob.

One has Yagis in one's garden, note.
http://mst.rl.ac.uk/IMAGES/nerc_mstr_antenna.jpg

[Robert Morein]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Goofball_star_dot_etal" >
Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: FM Antenna Resources


> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:11:02 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >The Yagi is a wideband,
> ********! (5)
>
> >Low gain design.
> ********! (6)

It does appear I have to make a clarification.
I have consulted my graduate antenna design textbook, Antenna Theory,
Analysis and Design, Balanis, 1982.
Yagi-Uda designs can be made to satisfy a variety of parameters, including
gain, bandwidth, directionality, and input impedance.

TV Yagis are obviously designed for very wide bandwidth, which implies low
gain.
What I did not remember is that a narrowband FM beam also appears to be a
Yagi, but designed according to an entirely different set of parameters,
where gain is paramount.

So what I should have said is that TV Yagis are wide band, and less than
optimal for FM reception.
The simple Radio Shack 5 element FM beam is probably also a Yagi-Uda, since
I cannot find any reference to a director/reflector design schema other than
Yagi-Uda.

[George M. Middius]

Goofy said:

> One has Yagis in one's garden, note.
> http://mst.rl.ac.uk/IMAGES/nerc_mstr_antenna.jpg

That's more like an audition for the remake of Close Encounters.

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:58:20 -0400, "Robert Morein"
> wrote:

>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Goofball_star_dot_etal" >
>Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:25 PM
>Subject: Re: FM Antenna Resources
>
>
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:11:02 -0400, "Robert Morein"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >The Yagi is a wideband,
>> ********! (5)
>>
>> >Low gain design.
>> ********! (6)
>

Low gain?
http://www.dlink.com/products/resource.asp?pid=56&rid=273&sec=0

>It does appear I have to make a clarification.
>I have consulted my graduate antenna design textbook, Antenna Theory,
>Analysis and Design, Balanis, 1982.
>Yagi-Uda designs can be made to satisfy a variety of parameters, including
>gain, bandwidth, directionality, and input impedance.
>

Yes, you can juggle with spacing, element length and diameter to alter
these parameters. A Yagi is broadband compared to what exactly? Not
compared to discone, a helical or even, I would guess, a log
periodic, dipole, rhombic or practically anything else.

http://www.poynting.co.za/tech_training/helical.shtml

>TV Yagis are obviously designed for very wide bandwidth, which implies low
>gain.
>What I did not remember is that a narrowband FM beam also appears to be a
>Yagi, but designed according to an entirely different set of parameters,
>where gain is paramount.
>
>So what I should have said is that TV Yagis are wide band,

No.

>and less than
>optimal for FM reception.

I would not want any high gain 88.3MHz antenna in my room although I
did have a huge helical in my attic once..

>The simple Radio Shack 5 element FM beam is probably also a Yagi-Uda, since
>I cannot find any reference to a director/reflector design schema other than
>Yagi-Uda.
>
>
Discones are pretty and wideband if you have vertical polarization. No
gain though. . I had one of those too and a 4 element quad.

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:51:01 -0400, George M. Middius <cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote:

>
>
>Goofy said:
>
>> One has Yagis in one's garden, note.
>> http://mst.rl.ac.uk/IMAGES/nerc_mstr_antenna.jpg
>
>That's more like an audition for the remake of Close Encounters.
>

A Ham would have wet dreams, note.

[George M. Middius]

Goofy said:

> >> One has Yagis in one's garden, note.
> >> http://mst.rl.ac.uk/IMAGES/nerc_mstr_antenna.jpg

> >That's more like an audition for the remake of Close Encounters.

> A Ham would have wet dreams, note.

Again with the biblical references. Didn't you OD on that stuff during
Easter?

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:27:28 -0400, George M. Middius <cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote:

>
>
>Goofy said:
>
>> >> One has Yagis in one's garden, note.
>> >> http://mst.rl.ac.uk/IMAGES/nerc_mstr_antenna.jpg
>
>> >That's more like an audition for the remake of Close Encounters.
>
>> A Ham would have wet dreams, note.
>
>Again with the biblical references. Didn't you OD on that stuff during
>Easter?
>
Prudes, such as yourself, bing out the filth in me, I regret. Since
the departure of Mary Whitehouse the Beeb has gone to the dogs and one
is what the Beeb makes one. Now please stop playing with your one-eyed
trouser snake.

[George Middius]

Uh-oh. Another strike by the garbage workers in Wales has Goofy extra-cranky.


>>Again with the biblical references. Didn't you OD on that stuff during
>>Easter?

>Prudes, such as yourself, bing out the filth in me, I regret.

I think it's safe to say your dalliance with filth predates your acquaintance
with me or anybody else on Usenet.

>Since the departure of Mary Whitehouse the Beeb has gone to the dogs and one
>is what the Beeb makes one. Now please stop playing with your one-eyed
>trouser snake.

Funny, that's what my friend Jimmy said (more or less). He's good with his
tongue. You probably have to engage professional whores for that kind of
pleasure.

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On 27 Jun 2005 13:46:25 -0700, George Middius
> wrote:

>
>
>Uh-oh. Another strike by the garbage workers in Wales has Goofy extra-cranky.
>
>
>>>Again with the biblical references. Didn't you OD on that stuff during
>>>Easter?
>
>>Prudes, such as yourself, bing out the filth in me, I regret.
>
>I think it's safe to say your dalliance with filth predates your acquaintance
>with me or anybody else on Usenet.
>
>>Since the departure of Mary Whitehouse the Beeb has gone to the dogs and one
>>is what the Beeb makes one.

>>Now please stop playing with your one-eyed
>>trouser snake.
>
>Funny, that's what my friend Jimmy said (more or less).

Spooky.

[Sylvan Morein]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Goofball_star_dot_etal" >
> Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: FM Antenna Resources
>
>
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:11:02 -0400, "Robert Morein"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The Yagi is a wideband,
>> ********! (5)
>>
>>> Low gain design.
>> ********! (6)
>
> It does appear I have to make a clarification.

So, two major technical errors in one thread corrected by a guy called
"Goofball". It seems Drexel had ample reason to deny my poor son Robert his
"degree", despite his spending tens of thousands of MY dollars and years
claiming he was studying.

There are lots of talented, skilled, and successful people in the world.
It's just that Robert Morein is not one of them.

I don't know how I'm going to keep him occupied as the usenet slowly
collapses. He hasn't been very interested in the basket weaving.


Facts about my Son, Robert Morein

Dr. Sylvan Morein, DDS
--

Bob Morein History
--
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/4853918.htm

> Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
> By L. STUART DITZEN
> Philadelphia Inquirer
>
> PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
> at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.
>
> They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
> so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
> to challenge his dismissal.

The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.
>
> "It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
> pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
> do come to a larger issue here."

An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
"pleasantly" eccentric.

> A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
> Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
> by the media and the public.

Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser.
>
> But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.
>
> Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
> years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
> computer engineering.

Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>
> Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
> thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
> rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
> patented.

A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.

>
> In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
> ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.

An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.

>
> Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
> Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.

Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
money to cover up his lack of productivity.
>
> That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
> tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.
>
> Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
> representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
> state Superior Court.
>
> The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
> restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
> time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
> affairs was reasserted.
>
> The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
> litigation, that would have been the end of it.
>
> But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
> asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.

Daddy throws more money down the crapper.

> His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
> even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
> right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
> compensation.
>
> "Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
> Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
> happened to him is pretty common."

It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.


> Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
> that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."
>
> "I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
> "We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
> intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
> pursuing self-destructive litigation."

No **** sherlock.

> The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
> committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
> Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.
>
> His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
> minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
> and electronic systems.
>
> The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
> calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
> nuclear plant or a computer.

My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
Robert Morein, only sawdust.

>
> Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
> and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
> through a university lawyer, declined to comment.
>
> At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
> 1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
> related to estimation theory.
>
> Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
> Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
> International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
> it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
> industrial processes.
>
> Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
> inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
> problem Kalata had presented.
>
> Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.
>
> K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.
>
> Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
> into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
> became alienated from Kalata.
>
> As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
> The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
> patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.

Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.

> In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
> department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
> asked for a new faculty adviser.

The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.

> He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
> Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.
>
> Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
> complete his thesis.

So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
(a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant!

>
> Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.

Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
usenet proves it.

>
> Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
> opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."

So much for political machine judges.
>
> The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
> about 100 of them.
>
> Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
> appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
> intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
> Pennsylvania courts.

> Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.

Just like all the failed "causes" Morein pursues. Heck, he's been
chasing another "Brian McCarty" for years and yet has ZERO impact on
anything.

Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.

>
> "I had to seek closure," he said.
>
> Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
> hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.

Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>
> As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
> from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
> make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
> an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
> bulletlike stream of water.


FAILED STUDENT
FAILED MOVIE MAKER
FAILED SCREENWRITER
FAILED INVESTOR
FAILED DRIVER
FAILED SON
FAILED PARENTS
FAILED INVENTOR
FAILED PLAINTIFF
FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
FAILED HUMAN
FAILED
FAILED

> But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.
>
> "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
> gnawing thing.

[George M. Middius]

Grand Dragon Goofy said:

> >Funny, that's what my friend Jimmy said (more or less).
>
> Spooky.

Where were you in 1966 when all that **** went down in Mississippi?

[Robert Morein]

"Sylvan Morein" > wrote in message
rdnews.com...
>
>
Alright, Brian. Everyone's seen this one.

"Sylvan Morein a.k.a. "OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION" is actually Brian
L. McCarty, a pest on rec.audio.marketplace, where he accuses innocent
sellers of various
misdeeds.

McCarty is the owner of websites http://www.coralseastudios.com, and
http://www.worldjazz.com, both of which have used fraudulent advertising in
attempts to attract investors. Both have been unsuccessful.

McCarty is an American expatriate, originally from the Chicago area,
currently living in Cairns Australia, where he manages the Baskin-Robbins
ice cream franchise located at Shop G6, 59 The Esplanade
Cairns QLD 4870
07 4051 4034
McCarty lives in the Coral Sands apartment complex at 65 Vasey Esplanade,
Trinity beach, a bit north of metropolitan Cairns.

Baskin-Robbins Australia may be contacted at
.

[EddieM]

> Goofball_star_ wrote
>
>
>
>
>>> >The Yagi is a wideband,
>>> ********! (5)
>>>
>>> >Low gain design.
>>> ********! (6)



Yeyy Mr. Goofball Star. Sorry for trolling you.
It's like opening a can of worms.

You're on the roll man !


Your Prized:

One (pre-owned) rooftop Yagi antenna for your
favorite pub there in Wales to be installed by none
other than RM wearing only high-heels during Ladies Night ..........

............... free-of-charge !




Yeeheyyy !! Whaooo !

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:39:15 GMT, "EddieM" >
wrote:

>
>> Goofball_star_ wrote
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> >The Yagi is a wideband,
>>>> ********! (5)
>>>>
>>>> >Low gain design.
>>>> ********! (6)
>
>
>
>Yeyy Mr. Goofball Star. Sorry for trolling you.
>It's like opening a can of worms.
>
>You're on the roll man !
>

Cheers! Have a dolphin for your troubles.
http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0472.JPG
>
>Your Prized:
>
>One (pre-owned) rooftop Yagi antenna for your
>favorite pub there in Wales to be installed by none
>other than RM wearing only high-heels during Ladies Night ..........
>
>.............. free-of-charge !
>
>
>
>
>Yeeheyyy !! Whaooo !
>
>

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:48:22 -0400, George M. Middius <cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote:

>
>
>Grand Dragon Goofy said:
>
>> >Funny, that's what my friend Jimmy said (more or less).
>>
>> Spooky.
>
>Where were you in 1966 when all that **** went down in Mississippi?
>
>

Stop whinging and learn to write, pal.

[George M. Middius]

Goofy said:

> >> Spooky.

> >Where were you in 1966 when all that **** went down in Mississippi?

> Stop whinging and learn to write, pal.

That's "tweaking", Clyde. Buy my books.

[Clyde Slick]

"George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote
in message ...
>
>
> Goofy said:
>
>> >> Spooky.
>
>> >Where were you in 1966 when all that **** went down in Mississippi?
>
>> Stop whinging and learn to write, pal.
>
> That's "tweaking", Clyde. Buy my books.
>

I thought you don't get royalties.



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[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:46:51 -0400, George M. Middius <cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote:

>
>
>Goofy said:
>
>> >> Spooky.
>
>> >Where were you in 1966 when all that **** went down in Mississippi?
>
>> Stop whinging and learn to write, pal.
>
>That's "tweaking", Clyde. Buy my books.
>
>
>
"Tweaking? Really?"
"Yes, Clyde, er m'lud"
"You mean 'pocket billiards'?"
"No. m' lud, I was adjusting my snake"

[George Middius]

Signal said:

>>Cheers! Have a dolphin for your troubles.
>>http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0472.JPG

>Looks fake.

I think so too. It looks like Jerry the Dolphin, a mechanical from Hollywood.

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:05:59 +0100, Signal > wrote:

>"Goofball_star_dot_etal" emitted :
>
>>>You're on the roll man !
>>>
>>
>>Cheers! Have a dolphin for your troubles.
>>http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0472.JPG
>
>Looks fake.

Heck, I just paid good money for that camera
You won't like the others in /images/ either.
Taken last Thursday.

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On 29 Jun 2005 08:27:22 -0700, George Middius
> wrote:

>
>
>Signal said:
>
>>>Cheers! Have a dolphin for your troubles.
>>>http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0472.JPG
>
>>Looks fake.
>
>I think so too. It looks like Jerry the Dolphin, a mechanical from Hollywood.
>
From a guy who believed the man on moon pictures.

[George Middius]

Sir Goofy said:

>>>Looks fake.

>>I think so too. It looks like Jerry the Dolphin, a mechanical from Hollywood.

>From a guy who believed the man on moon pictures.

No, you're confused. Those were Ferstler's touchstones. I do know my sea
mammals, though, and yours is a fake.

[Sander deWaal]

Signal > said:


>The real David Wareing wouldn't buy a retro camera with so-so reviews.
>Besides which these pictures are obvious fakes.. no skipper would
>allow a man on board carrying sheep...


What? Was Pinkerton on board?

--

"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

[Goofball_star_dot_etal]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:02:25 +0100, Signal > wrote:

>"Goofball_star_dot_etal" emitted :
>
>>>>Cheers! Have a dolphin for your troubles.
>>>>http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0472.JPG
>>>
>>>Looks fake.
>>
>>Heck, I just paid good money for that camera
>>You won't like the others in /images/ either.
>>Taken last Thursday.
>
>The real David Wareing wouldn't buy a retro camera with so-so reviews.

Heck, you are as bad as Atkinsin, I am supposed to be (semi)anonymous.
Goofy know f... all about cameras except that they can get wet.
http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/gk1.JPG

>Besides which these pictures are obvious fakes.

The sunshine gave it away?

.. no skipper would
>allow a man on board carrying sheep...

I am the only guy that know which buttons to press, besides I bring
the booze.
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