Question for H. Ferstler

[George M. Middius]

Do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?

[Howard Ferstler]

"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?

That is what my wife has also asked many times.

But, no, I do not.

Howard Ferstler

[Lionel]

George "Betty Boop" Middius wrote:

>>
>> Do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?

Do you ever get tired to admire your image in your mirror, eh Narcissus ?

[George M. Middius]

Brother Horace the Excessively Prolix said:

> > Do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?

> But, no, I do not.

No self-awareness whatsoever.

Do you buy helium by the ton in order to inflate that hollow ego of yours?

[Arny Krueger]

George M. Middius wrote:

> Do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?

If irony killed!

[Arny Krueger]

George M. Middius wrote:
> Brother Horace the Excessively Prolix said:
>
>>> Do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?
>
>> But, no, I do not.
>
> No self-awareness whatsoever.
>
> Do you buy helium by the ton in order to inflate that hollow ego of
> yours?

If irony killed, part two.

[George M. Middius]

****-for-Brains squawked:

> If irony killed!

If feces were edible!

[Arny Krueger]

George M. Middius wrote:
> ****-for-Brains squawked:
>
>> If irony killed!
>
> If feces were edible!

Middius would be even fatter.

[Howard Ferstler]

Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> George M. Middius wrote:
> > ****-for-Brains squawked:
> >
> >> If irony killed!
> >
> > If feces were edible!

> Middius would be even fatter.

What in the hell is it with this guy? For the life of me I
am not sure just what it is that he stands for. I am not
sure he knows what he stands for, either.

Is he a real tweak, or is he just a defender of tweaks and
somewhat rational himself. Does he believe in the audio
version of the tooth fairy, or does he just want to make
sure that childish other audio buffs can freely believe that
way and not be harassed by party-pooping guys like us? Is he
serious about audio? Is he serious about anything? Is he
even intelligent? Remember, being clever is not necessarily
the same thing as being intelligent. Many clever people are
jerks.

I mean, he may have valid philosophical reasons for wanting
to defend the tweaks. That is a valid position, if one
considers audio to be a free-for-all hobby where rigor is a
waste of time and subjective opinions are what it is all
about. He may just be offended by any stand that undermines
the mystique that attracts certain individuals to the hobby.
But if he is just a tweako himself, defending his own
position, then he is almost not worth the time we take to
respond to him.

Note that he bothered to give me the ID code I needed to
delete that Google archive post I copied from the
Stereophile archives. I have to credit him with that. Still,
there is something downright odd about him. He certainly
does make wonder if the hobby is worth the time. God knows
how many newcomers he has alienated. Guys like him have done
the hobby much harm over the years.

Howard Ferstler

[ScottW]

Howard Ferstler wrote:
> Arny Krueger wrote:
> >
> > George M. Middius wrote:
> > > ****-for-Brains squawked:
> > >
> > >> If irony killed!
> > >
> > > If feces were edible!
>
> > Middius would be even fatter.
>
> What in the hell is it with this guy? For the life of me I
> am not sure just what it is that he stands for. I am not
> sure he knows what he stands for, either.
>
> Is he a real tweak, or is he just a defender of tweaks and
> somewhat rational himself. Does he believe in the audio
> version of the tooth fairy, or does he just want to make
> sure that childish other audio buffs can freely believe that
> way and not be harassed by party-pooping guys like us?

Howard, Your hypocrisy is a real hoot as you have shown yourself to be
just as much a "tweak" as anyone with your undying devotion and faith
in the dispersion enhancing Allison surround.

ScottW

[George M. Middius]

Brother Horace the Woefully Krooful whined:

> What in the hell is it with this guy? For the life of me I
> am not sure just what it is that he stands for. I am not
> sure he knows what he stands for, either.

Odd you don't know.... I believe I've made "what I stand for" abundantly
clear, in a multitude of ways, on a plethora of occasions. Why don't you
just read a dozen of my posts that mention you, and see what you can
figure out? Pick them at random. Read them. Digest them. See if the scales
fall from your eyes.

Failing all that, ask a Normal guy "what I stand for". You will get the
truth straight between the eyes.

[jclause]

Now Howie's he's just an old fart
And it seems he's not too smart..
He doesn't understand,
Why George lent a hand
That he means him no harm at heart.

Hammingway

[jclause]

>I believe I've made "what I stand for" abundantly clear


There once was a dude named Howie
He came from the tribe of Fagowie
They had very few skills..
They'd get lost in the hills
And would ask "now where in the f--k are we?

Hammingway

[jclause]

>your undying devotion and faith in the dispersion enhancing
>Allison surround.


Now Howie, he thinks he'll retire
And listen through his twelve gauge wire
To his mid-fi stuff
He feels is good enough
And for him never fails to inspire.

Hammingway

[jclause]

> the dispersion enhancing Allison surround


Ol' Howie likes to have his fun
He said "Most speakers I'll shun
'Cause sound that splatters
Is all that matters..
Like the Allision and the nine-o-one.

Hammingway

[Howard Ferstler]

ScottW wrote:
>
> Howard Ferstler wrote:
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> > >
> > > George M. Middius wrote:
> > > > ****-for-Brains squawked:
> > > >
> > > >> If irony killed!
> > > >
> > > > If feces were edible!
> >
> > > Middius would be even fatter.
> >
> > What in the hell is it with this guy? For the life of me I
> > am not sure just what it is that he stands for. I am not
> > sure he knows what he stands for, either.
> >
> > Is he a real tweak, or is he just a defender of tweaks and
> > somewhat rational himself. Does he believe in the audio
> > version of the tooth fairy, or does he just want to make
> > sure that childish other audio buffs can freely believe that
> > way and not be harassed by party-pooping guys like us?

> Howard, Your hypocrisy is a real hoot as you have shown yourself to be
> just as much a "tweak" as anyone with your undying devotion and faith
> in the dispersion enhancing Allison surround.

Allison did not produce surround devices. His speakers
certainly disperse more widely than most (Mr. Atkinson's
disclaimer notwithstanding), and that does indeed make their
soundstage seem wider and deeper than more directional
speakers.

However, they are not surround sound, per se, and there is
no way they could simulate genuine surround sound.

Incidentally, I have compared a large number of speakers to
the IC-20 systems in my main room and so far the Allison
units have done a better job of simulating a live-music
soundstage than any of them. Yes, some of the other speakers
were very good (and I said so in my reviews), and
interestingly, some of the best ones had very different
approaches to speaker engineering. For the most part, the
best ones were very good, indeed.

If you read any of my speaker reviews in The Sensible Sound,
you will see that I cut speaker designers considerably more
slack than many other reviewers do. Yep, I allow for taste
to indeed play a part when it comes to speaker sound,
provided they systems can deliver flat output (be it
dominated by the reverberant field or by the direct field)
to the listening position.

As for my so-called hypocrisy, if you think that I am
hypocritical when I judge Mr. Middius as I do, then you
obviously have missed the whole point of my approach to
audio.

Howard Ferstler

[George M. Middius]

Brother Horace the Repetitiously Repetitive repeated:

> As for my so-called hypocrisy, if you think that I am
> hypocritical when I judge Mr. Middius as I do, then you
> obviously have missed the whole point of my approach to
> audio.

Normals perceive your "approach to audio" as blindered, myopic, jaundiced,
biased, intensely religious, and, mostly, idiotic. To give you an analogy,
does a cheetah esteem the viewpoint of a dung beetle in nature's panoply?
I think not, Your Beetleness.