FS: Parts for McIntosh 4300V and MR-65

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FS: Parts for McIntosh 4300V and MR-65 (MR65)
we are parting out these two units
please email us your needs
and shipping address and method of payment for a quote
thanks
mm

www.mrmarksmusic.com for lots more gear and manuals

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wrote:
> FS: Parts for McIntosh 4300V and MR-65 (MR65)
> we are parting out these two units
> please email us your needs
> and shipping address and method of payment for a quote
> thanks
> mm
>
> www.mrmarksmusic.com for lots more gear and manuals

You part out a hell of a lot of gear, most of which is probably better
fixed. Parts that wear out should be replaced with new parts and if
this is not possible usually junking is a better option.

[dave weil]

On 12 Mar 2005 14:09:54 -0800, wrote:

>
wrote:
>> FS: Parts for McIntosh 4300V and MR-65 (MR65)
>> we are parting out these two units
>> please email us your needs
>> and shipping address and method of payment for a quote
>> thanks
>> mm
>>
>> www.mrmarksmusic.com for lots more gear and manuals
>
> You part out a hell of a lot of gear, most of which is probably better
>fixed. Parts that wear out should be replaced with new parts and if
>this is not possible usually junking is a better option.

You're missing the point. This company, while having working gear as
well, is an audio/video/music salvage company. If they are parting out
gear, it's probably because it's not worth the effort to get it fixed
or to sell it as is. It's possible that many of the units have already
been partially parted out by others anyway and he's just bought it
pennies on the dollar.

Parting out is a valuable part of the audio world because it ALLOWS
similar vintage units to be repaired. There are probably units out
there that wouldn't ever be able to be repaired because of the scarce
availability of certain proprietary or hard-to-find parts. This guy is
doing a service by offering the parts. I'll bet that if you were
interested in the unit as is so that YOU could repair it, he'd
entertain an offer. But remember that not every non-working item even
*deserves* to be repaired because of the state of disrepair.

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That may be so but since we don't know what's there, or its condition,
such a determination is hard to make.

[dave weil]

On 12 Mar 2005 15:54:43 -0800, wrote:

>That may be so but since we don't know what's there, or its condition,
>such a determination is hard to make.

Then why did YOU make such a determination?

I guess you don't believe in pull-a-part junkyards either. All of
those cars MUST be repaired, right?

[Dimitrios Tzortzakakis]

I agree with calcerise,the problem lies in *selling* something used, and not
*giving it away*.Maybe all these parts are worth only for the dustbin.

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitri?s
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "dave weil" > ?????? ??? ??????
...
> On 12 Mar 2005 15:54:43 -0800, wrote:
>
> >That may be so but since we don't know what's there, or its condition,
> >such a determination is hard to make.
>
> Then why did YOU make such a determination?
>
> I guess you don't believe in pull-a-part junkyards either. All of
> those cars MUST be repaired, right?

[George M. Middius]

Dimitrios Tzortzakakis top-posted:

> > >That may be so but since we don't know what's there, or its condition,
> > >such a determination is hard to make.

> > Then why did YOU make such a determination?

> > I guess you don't believe in pull-a-part junkyards either. All of
> > those cars MUST be repaired, right?

> I agree with calcerise,the problem lies in *selling* something used, and not
> *giving it away*.Maybe all these parts are worth only for the dustbin.

Aside from the fact that top-posters are rarely right about anything, you're
wrong about this. Objecting to somebody trying to sell something is the
height of hypocrisy. Perhaps you want Big Brother to make all market
decisions for all of us. Do you want a bunch of bureaucrats determining what
products should be available for sale, and to whom, and when, and where, and
at what price?

The solution for your unease is brilliantly simple: Don't buy the parts.
There, that was easy. Problem solved!

[dave weil]

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:56:53 +0200, "Dimitrios Tzortzakakis"
> wrote:

>I agree with calcerise,the problem lies in *selling* something used, and not
>*giving it away*.Maybe all these parts are worth only for the dustbin.

Well, presumably, the electrical parts are tested before they are
sold. But how do you test a chassis, or a nameplate, or a chassis
brace, or a set of screws? These are the sort of things are probably
the most valuable to people who are trying to restore old gear, not
the odd resistor or choke.

The fact is, by parting such a piece of gear out, you are KEEPING it
from the dustbin simply because it's not worth the time and effort to
repair it. It might actually bring 3 old units back to original
condition. When it comes to vintage gear (like vintage cars), original
parts are generally preferable to generic replacements. And, let's
face it, one of the reasons to own vintage gear is the collectability
aspect of it.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a salvage operation parting out
a piece of gear, no matter how revered it is. After all, this doesn't
preclude someone from making an offer on the piece anyway.

[Dimitrios Tzortzakakis]

Then it's good if you want to repair some old gear and you can't find spare
parts.IMHO however, I would never repair something that old, I'd rather get
some low-fi boombox and some low-fi speakers for my computer (as I did).

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitri?s
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "dave weil" > ?????? ??? ??????
...
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:56:53 +0200, "Dimitrios Tzortzakakis"
> > wrote:
>
> >I agree with calcerise,the problem lies in *selling* something used, and
not
> >*giving it away*.Maybe all these parts are worth only for the dustbin.
>
> Well, presumably, the electrical parts are tested before they are
> sold. But how do you test a chassis, or a nameplate, or a chassis
> brace, or a set of screws? These are the sort of things are probably
> the most valuable to people who are trying to restore old gear, not
> the odd resistor or choke.
>
> The fact is, by parting such a piece of gear out, you are KEEPING it
> from the dustbin simply because it's not worth the time and effort to
> repair it. It might actually bring 3 old units back to original
> condition. When it comes to vintage gear (like vintage cars), original
> parts are generally preferable to generic replacements. And, let's
> face it, one of the reasons to own vintage gear is the collectability
> aspect of it.
>
> There's absolutely nothing wrong with a salvage operation parting out
> a piece of gear, no matter how revered it is. After all, this doesn't
> preclude someone from making an offer on the piece anyway.

[dave weil]

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:05:57 +0200, "Dimitrios Tzortzakakis"
> wrote:

>Then it's good if you want to repair some old gear and you can't find spare
>parts.IMHO however, I would never repair something that old, I'd rather get
>some low-fi boombox and some low-fi speakers for my computer (as I did).

That's your choice, of course. However, I'm gladly using a 40 year old
tube integrated amp as one of my methods of amplification right now.
It's been more reliable than my 3 year old Denon. And it sounds great.
Personally, I would rather listen to music on virtually anything other
than a "lo-fi boombox" but that's my choice as well.

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Wow!
We seem to have really created a stir, just trying to run a used gear
business! Interesting comments from both sides of the conversation.
Some people love old gear, some love new gear. Personally we love old
gear and feel that is was built better and sounds better, but we
respect both opinions. One thing is for sure, though, and that is the
old gear lasted much longer than the new, which is disposable in a
short length of time. We believe old gear is worth fixing , if possible
(not to mention being a piece of our history and our growing up and
love those that believe the same.
:-)
Peace to all
MM
www.mrmarksmusic.com

[Steve Urbach]

On 15 Mar 2005 17:28:34 -0800, "
> wrote:

>Wow!
>We seem to have really created a stir, just trying to run a used gear
>business! Interesting comments from both sides of the conversation.
>Some people love old gear, some love new gear. Personally we love old
>gear and feel that is was built better and sounds better, but we
>respect both opinions. One thing is for sure, though, and that is the
>old gear lasted much longer than the new, which is disposable in a
>short length of time. We believe old gear is worth fixing , if possible
>(not to mention being a piece of our history and our growing up and
>love those that believe the same.
>:-)
>Peace to all
>MM
>www.mrmarksmusic.com
Sigh
The cheery glow of a pair of EL34's on a cold evening.
Remenber MONO and a Mac C8?
Remember when records had recording curves other than RIAA?
Remember tube testers?
Interestingly, I watched Tube system reliability peak, themn came the
transistor and reliability took a (shallow) dip, Then came the IC
based system with its dip. I
I have gone from the days of 3-5 years between repairs to 20 years and
only cosmetic or minor repairs (light bulbs and contact cleaner).
My old Shure M3-N21d needed a new stylus evey 3 years or so because
the mount went 'dead'.
I just fired up my 20+ year old Audio Technica AT-14S with a 'Shibata'
stylus on a CD4. LP connected to a Panasonic CD-4 decoder. Dang, the
thing still, detected a CD-4 media and switched to QUAD mode.

A stupid obsolete relay, is the problem with my Akai 400-DSS (Quad 10"
open reel), a jury rig is in place but the noise shilding won't fit.
Parts used to be available 5-10 years. Now there may NEVER have been
available.
I hate dumping something because I can't find a $1.00 part (that was
made JUST for that product build). Thats whats wrong with young
equipment.




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