"Middius" insults/abuses JJ- the evidence is here

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In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston as
Phoebe and/or witchy?
Look here:

http://tinyurl.com/3s39a

Pretty amazing, eh?

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message
ups.com
> In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston as
> Phoebe and/or witchy?
> Look here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3s39a
>
> Pretty amazing, eh?

Yes.

Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good buddy of JJ
that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.

Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally untruthful.

[Lionel]

In >, Arny Krueger wrote :

> > wrote in message
> ups.com
>> In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston as
>> Phoebe and/or witchy?
>> Look here:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3s39a
>>
>> Pretty amazing, eh?
>
> Yes.
>
> Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good buddy of
> JJ that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.
>
> Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally untruthful.

It seems that you haven't understood what Sander wrote.

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Arny Krueger wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ups.com
> > In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston as
> > Phoebe and/or witchy?
> > Look here:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3s39a
> >
> > Pretty amazing, eh?
>
> Yes.
>
> Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good buddy
of JJ
> that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.
>
>


"Middius" is lying?!? I'm shocked! Shocked!! ;-)
>
>
> Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally
untruthful.
>
>


IMO, Arny, Sander is a completely different kinda guy. A good guy,
albeit one whose aims in audio are completely different than yours. Of
course, YMMV.
>
>

That said, I can see where JJ might have exchanged emails with Sander.
But with "Middius"? GMAFB!!!

[Sander deWaal]

said:


>That said, I can see where JJ might have exchanged emails with Sander.
>But with "Middius"? GMAFB!!!


I did have private e-mail conversations with Jim.
Anyone'll just have to believe me on my word, I won't post them in a
public forum.

If my word is not enough, that's not my problem.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good buddy of JJ
>that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.

>Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally untruthful.


I never claimed to be good buddies with JJ, just that we occasionally
exchanged e-mails.

But you knew that, eh? ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Bruce J. Richman]

Sander deWaal wrote:


I > "Arny Krueger" > said:
>
> >Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good
buddy of JJ
> >that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.
>
> >Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally
untruthful.
>
>
> I never claimed to be good buddies with JJ, just that we occasionally
> exchanged e-mails.
>
> But you knew that, eh? ;-)
>
> --
> Sander de Waal
> " SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

I also had several private email conversations with Jim, about borh
RAO and personality assessment, a subject in wihch he was quite
interested. Suffice it to say we discussed various standardised tests
like the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) and "less
formal" ways of assessing people. :) I have a very good idea of why
he decided to leave RAO, and the reasons were several. Beyond that,
I'm not going to reveal his disclosures without his permission.

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Sander deWaal wrote:
> said:
>
>
> >That said, I can see where JJ might have exchanged emails with
Sander.
> >But with "Middius"? GMAFB!!!
>
>
> I did have private e-mail conversations with Jim.
> Anyone'll just have to believe me on my word, I won't post them in a
> public forum.
>
> If my word is not enough, that's not my problem.
>
>


Your word is more than enough for me, Sander. (Just don't tell me
Citreons are reliable! ;-> )

[Sander deWaal]

said:

>. (Just don't tell me
>Citreons are reliable! ;-> )


They are after I overhauled them ;-)
I'm about to reach the 200.000 km barrier with my current CX, of which
about 120.000 are mine.
Never had her fail on me, not once! At least not in a major way ;-)

She gets more attention than my wife, you will note.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[[email protected]]

Sander deWaal wrote:
> said:
>
> >. (Just don't tell me
> >Citreons are reliable! ;-> )
>
>
> They are after I overhauled them ;-)
> I'm about to reach the 200.000 km barrier with my current CX, of
which
> about 120.000 are mine.
> Never had her fail on me, not once! At least not in a major way ;-)
>
> She gets more attention than my wife, you will note.
>
>


The CX is the swoopy one from Ca. 1974, yes? I always liked/admired
Citreons but was scared off by lack of any real support here in the US.

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message
oups.com
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ups.com
>>> In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston as
>>> Phoebe and/or witchy?
>>> Look here:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/3s39a
>>>
>>> Pretty amazing, eh?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good
>> buddy of JJ that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.
>>
>>
>
>
> "Middius" is lying?!? I'm shocked! Shocked!! ;-)

>> Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally
>> untruthful.

> IMO, Arny, Sander is a completely different kinda guy.

Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very rapidly. He's
part of the Middius team, just like Richman and Sackman.

He loves to pile on with them.

>A good guy, albeit one whose aims in audio are completely different than
>yours.

Agreed that unlike Sander, I have no interest in defending or assisting
Middius, Richman or Sackman.

> Of course, YMMV.

Sander loves to pile on with Middius, Sackman, Richman, and Sackman.

> That said, I can see where JJ might have exchanged emails with Sander.

> But with "Middius"? GMAFB!!!

I suspect that JJ has indeed exchanged emails with Middius, as well.

[[email protected]]

Sander deWaal wrote:
> said:
>
> >. (Just don't tell me
> >Citreons are reliable! ;-> )
>
>
> They are after I overhauled them ;-)
> I'm about to reach the 200.000 km barrier with my current CX, of
which
> about 120.000 are mine.
> Never had her fail on me, not once! At least not in a major way ;-)
>
> She gets more attention than my wife, you will note.
>
>


The CX is the swoopy one from Ca. 1974, yes? I always liked/admired
Citreons but was scared off by lack of any real support here in the US.

[Ruud Broens]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...

: Sander loves to pile on with Middius, Sackman, Richman, and Sackman.

sounds like a law firm. Sander & law firms ?? gotta be kidding :-)
Rudy

[Clyde Slick]

"Ruud Broens" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> : Sander loves to pile on with Middius, Sackman, Richman, and Sackman.
>
> sounds like a law firm. Sander & law firms ?? gotta be kidding :-)
> Rudy
>


leave my relatives out of this.



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Arny Krueger wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ups.com
> >>> In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston
as
> >>> Phoebe and/or witchy?
> >>> Look here:
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/3s39a
> >>>
> >>> Pretty amazing, eh?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good
> >> buddy of JJ that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > "Middius" is lying?!? I'm shocked! Shocked!! ;-)
>
> >> Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally
> >> untruthful.
>
> > IMO, Arny, Sander is a completely different kinda guy.
>
> Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very rapidly.
He's
> part of the Middius team, just like Richman and Sackman.
>
>

Well, disagreed. there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
IMO, Sander is not in that number. YMMV, and it seems it does. However,
we are agreed on "Middius", Sackman, Phillips, Richman, Albertz,
"Fella" et al.
>
> He loves to pile on with them.
>
>
I think he is frustrated with the situation, Arny.
>
>
> >A good guy, albeit one whose aims in audio are completely different
than
> >yours.
>
> Agreed that unlike Sander, I have no interest in defending or
assisting
> Middius, Richman or Sackman.
>
>
>

Not my point, and I am sure you know that.
>
>
> > Of course, YMMV.
>
> Sander loves to pile on with Middius, Sackman, Richman, and Sackman.
>
>
See above.
>
>
> > That said, I can see where JJ might have exchanged emails with
Sander.
>
> > But with "Middius"? GMAFB!!!
>
> I suspect that JJ has indeed exchanged emails with Middius, as well.
>
>


Really? Even late in the game?

[Tom]

> Well, disagreed. there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
> IMO, Sander is not in that number. YMMV, and it seems it does. However,
> we are agreed on "Middius", Sackman, Phillips, Richman, Albertz,
> "Fella" et al.


Who gives a **** what Torry-boooy thinks? Show of hands please.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> > wrote in message
> ups.com
>> In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston as
>> Phoebe and/or witchy?
>> Look here:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3s39a
>>
>> Pretty amazing, eh?
>
> Yes.
>
> Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good buddy of
> JJ that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.
>
> Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally untruthful.
I wouldn't bet on it Arny. Whatever your disagreements with him may be, he
has no reason nor history of lying that I know of. I would imagine he and
JJ had a very cordial off group relationship, as do I. We disagree on many
things, but I trust his word.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
...
> said:
>
>
>>That said, I can see where JJ might have exchanged emails with Sander.
>>But with "Middius"? GMAFB!!!
>
>
> I did have private e-mail conversations with Jim.
> Anyone'll just have to believe me on my word, I won't post them in a
> public forum.
>
> If my word is not enough, that's not my problem.
>
> --
It is good enough for me.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> > wrote in message
> oups.com
>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>> In how many posts did "George M. Middius" refer to Jim Johnston as
>>>> Phoebe and/or witchy?
>>>> Look here:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/3s39a
>>>>
>>>> Pretty amazing, eh?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> Given that Middius represents himself here as being such a good
>>> buddy of JJ that JJ shared with him the secrets of his heart, yes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> "Middius" is lying?!? I'm shocked! Shocked!! ;-)
>
>>> Since Sander makes the same claims, they are no doubt equally
>>> untruthful.
>
>> IMO, Arny, Sander is a completely different kinda guy.
>
> Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very rapidly.
> He's part of the Middius team, just like Richman and Sackman.
>
No, he's not. He just disagrees with you. You could easily have cordial
converstaions with him if you wanted them.

> He loves to pile on with them.
>
>>A good guy, albeit one whose aims in audio are completely different than
>>yours.
>
> Agreed that unlike Sander, I have no interest in defending or assisting
> Middius, Richman or Sackman.
>
>> Of course, YMMV.
>
> Sander loves to pile on with Middius, Sackman, Richman, and Sackman.
>
>> That said, I can see where JJ might have exchanged emails with Sander.
>
>> But with "Middius"? GMAFB!!!
>
> I suspect that JJ has indeed exchanged emails with Middius, as well.
He met with BJ IIRC, (JJ that is), so there's no reason to assume he didn't
discuss things with Middius once or twice. I can't see it going very far.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Tom" > wrote in message
...
>> Well, disagreed. there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
>> IMO, Sander is not in that number. YMMV, and it seems it does. However,
>> we are agreed on "Middius", Sackman, Phillips, Richman, Albertz,
>> "Fella" et al.
>
>
> Who gives a **** what Torry-boooy thinks? Show of hands please.
Truth is where you find it.

I have no idea why he has it in for you and frankly see no reason for it.
That said, he's dead on in other areas of personality assessment and I think
he's right about Sander.

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Tom wrote:
> > Well, disagreed. there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here,
but,
> > IMO, Sander is not in that number. YMMV, and it seems it does.
However,
> > we are agreed on "Middius", Sackman, Phillips, Richman, Albertz,
> > "Fella" et al.
>
>
> Who gives a **** what Torry-boooy thinks? Show of hands please.
>
>


You really do *need* consensus, don't you, Tom?
>
>
Does having the "vox populi" help you sell real estate for your wife's
firm?
>
>

Do tell!

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Michael McKelvy wrote:
> "Tom" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Well, disagreed. there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here,
but,
> >> IMO, Sander is not in that number. YMMV, and it seems it does.
However,
> >> we are agreed on "Middius", Sackman, Phillips, Richman, Albertz,
> >> "Fella" et al.
> >
> >
> > Who gives a **** what Torry-boooy thinks? Show of hands please.
> Truth is where you find it.
>
> I have no idea why he has it in for you and frankly see no reason for
it.
>
>


This goes back to the summer of '02 and the "Arny is a pedophile"
thing. Tom sent me several forged emails in an attempt to embroil me in
the scam....
>
>


Short course: Tom Albertz is a liar capable of the worst sort of
deceptive tactics. Just as grim as "Middius", but not as smart.





> That said, he's dead on in other areas of personality assessment and
I think
> he's right about Sander.
>
>


Thanks....

[Tom]

Torry-boooy wrote:

> This goes back to the summer of '02 and the "Arny is a pedophile"
> thing. Tom sent me several forged emails in an attempt to embroil me in
> the scam....

"Embroil me in the scam"? You're such an asshole. I was never embroiled in
the scam. I'm not sure there ever really was a "scam".

> Short course: Tom Albertz is a liar capable of the worst sort of
> deceptive tactics. Just as grim as "Middius", but not as smart.

"Short course"? Who says "short course" except a pompous blowhard nerd.
I've never been involved in any tactics involving anyone that compare to the
chicken**** tactics you've resorted to.

> Thanks....

you're welcome.

[Tom]

"Michael McKelvy" > wrote

> That said, he's dead on in other areas of personality assessment

No he's not. You don't know any of those people. How many of the people
you find so offensive have you actually met? I've met over a dozen of the
folks from this group and every one of them was down to earth and pleasant.
And that includes a couple of Arny's buddys from Detroit. The people he
assesses for you are no more nasty than Torry-booy himself or you or Lionel
or Kruger. I've played here as long as you have. Everyone is nasty here.
It's endless, endless, endless back and forth nastiness. But it should stay
here. That's the problem with your chicken**** little buddy. He's reaching
out. He's trying to harrass my wife to get back at me. He can't stand up
to me here on a level playing field. He probably couldn't stand up to me
face to face either. That's why he won't reveal his identity or call. He
gives all kinds of excuses, but you would think a guy that pretends to be as
tough as he does would love to give me an earful on the phone as well. No
such luck. He's a chicken**** coward, but I digress.

[Lionel]

Tom a écrit :
> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote
>
>
>>That said, he's dead on in other areas of personality assessment
>
>
> No he's not. You don't know any of those people. How many of the people
> you find so offensive have you actually met? I've met over a dozen of the
> folks from this group and every one of them was down to earth and pleasant.
> And that includes a couple of Arny's buddys from Detroit. The people he
> assesses for you are no more nasty than Torry-booy himself or you or Lionel

Oh, oh boy keep me out of your recriminations.

Can you swear solemnly that you aren't the "Boston Snake" (lol) ?

[Lionel]

Tom a écrit :

> How many of the people
> you find so offensive have you actually met? I've met over a dozen of the
> folks from this group and every one of them was down to earth and pleasant.

Have you already met George M. Middius ?
Did he already propose to meet you ?

How to explain that a guy who is so "friendly", so "pleasant" since so
long time on RAO never meet nor never *proposed* to meet any of his
Usenet friends ?

Frankly Tom.
This guys seems to have qualities only. He pretends have an extensive
culture, to be intelligent, to like wines, cuisine and music, to be an
open minded democrat...
He is the ideal guest for convivial meetings don't you think so ?

So, from you to me, where is the bug ?

[Fella]

Tom wrote:
> Everyone is nasty here.
> It's endless, endless, endless back and forth nastiness. But it should stay
> here. That's the problem with your chicken**** little buddy. He's reaching
> out. He's trying to harrass my wife to get back at me.


I think Tom is right about the terrorist or "torresists". There is a
special, intense and REAL hate and bad-will coming from him, it's not
temper, or your usual usenet flame thrower attitude. It is more deeper
and genuine and consequential than that. I think the thing could be just
the kind of twisted anomally to send letter-bombs, or poison, etc, to
people he has grown to hate here in this cyber environment.

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message
oups.com
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com
>>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ups.com

>> Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very
>> rapidly. He's part of the Middius team, just like Richman and
>> Sackman.

> Well, disagreed.

Well, blind.

> there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
> IMO, Sander is not in that number.

Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it all the
time.

> YMMV, and it seems it does.

I see the facts. Wake up!

> However, we are agreed on "Middius", Sackman, Phillips, Richman,
> Albertz, "Fella" et al.

Sander is as bad as any of them.

>> He loves to pile on with them.

> I think he is frustrated with the situation, Arny.

I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches, same words,
same jokes.

>>> A good guy, albeit one whose aims in audio are completely
>>> different than yours.

>> Agreed that unlike Sander, I have no interest in defending or
>> assisting Middius, Richman or Sackman.

> Not my point, and I am sure you know that.

Wake up!

>>> Of course, YMMV.

>> I suspect that JJ has indeed exchanged emails with Middius, as well.

> Really? Even late in the game?

I don't know the exact timing.

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>
> So, from you to me, where is the bug ?

When you find it, tell Mikey. He's hungry.



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[Clyde Slick]

"Fella" > wrote in message
...
> Tom wrote:
>> Everyone is nasty here. It's endless, endless, endless back and forth
>> nastiness. But it should stay here. That's the problem with your
>> chicken**** little buddy. He's reaching out. He's trying to harrass my
>> wife to get back at me.
>
>
> I think Tom is right about the terrorist or "torresists". There is a
> special, intense and REAL hate and bad-will coming from him, it's not
> temper, or your usual usenet flame thrower attitude. It is more deeper and
> genuine and consequential than that. I think the thing could be just the
> kind of twisted anomally to send letter-bombs, or poison, etc, to people
> he has grown to hate here in this cyber environment.

A little like Bwian?



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Tom wrote:
> Torry-boooy wrote:
>
> > This goes back to the summer of '02 and the "Arny is a pedophile"
> > thing. Tom sent me several forged emails in an attempt to embroil
me in
> > the scam....
>
> "Embroil me in the scam"?
>
>


Are you forgetting about those forged emails you sent to me (posing as
Benchimol), urging me to report Arny Krueger to the police as a
pedophile, you ****ing loony tune?

[Sander deWaal]

said:

>The CX is the swoopy one from Ca. 1974, yes? I always liked/admired
>Citreons but was scared off by lack of any real support here in the US.


Correct. There are 2 versions though, only slightly different.
The second model ( "phase 2") was sold in small quantities in the USA
as well, but rebranded CXA and not affiliated with Citroen:
http://www.citroen-ca.com/CXguide.html

My CX:
http://www.citroen.demon.nl/Img14.jpg
http://www.citroen.demon.nl/Img15.jpg
http://www.citroen.demon.nl/Img17.jpg

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

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Arny Krueger wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> >> > wrote in message
> >> oups.com
> >>> Arny Krueger wrote:
> >>>> > wrote in message
> >>>> ups.com
>
> >> Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very
> >> rapidly. He's part of the Middius team, just like Richman and
> >> Sackman.
>
> > Well, disagreed.
>
> Well, blind.
>
> > there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
> > IMO, Sander is not in that number.
>
> Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it all
the
> time.
>
> > YMMV, and it seems it does.
>
> I see the facts. Wake up!
>
> > However, we are agreed on "Middius", Sackman, Phillips, Richman,
> > Albertz, "Fella" et al.
>
> Sander is as bad as any of them.
>
> >> He loves to pile on with them.
>
> > I think he is frustrated with the situation, Arny.
>
> I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches, same
words,
> same jokes.
>
> >>> A good guy, albeit one whose aims in audio are completely
> >>> different than yours.
>
> >> Agreed that unlike Sander, I have no interest in defending or
> >> assisting Middius, Richman or Sackman.
>
> > Not my point, and I am sure you know that.
>
> Wake up!
>
> >>> Of course, YMMV.
>
> >> I suspect that JJ has indeed exchanged emails with Middius, as
well.
>
> > Really? Even late in the game?
>
> I don't know the exact timing.
>
>



We disagree about Sander, no big deal. IMO, he is an interesting and
pleasant guy. As before, YMMV.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very rapidly. He's
>part of the Middius team, just like Richman and Sackman.


What can I say? It is your perception at work here. ;-)


>He loves to pile on with them.


At times I do, yes.
You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with everybody
on RAO.


>>A good guy, albeit one whose aims in audio are completely different than
>>yours.

>Agreed that unlike Sander, I have no interest in defending or assisting
>Middius, Richman or Sackman.


The statement was about aims in audio.
I'm not defending anyone, I'm just playing my own game and having fun.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>> there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
>> IMO, Sander is not in that number.

>Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it all the
>time.


I'm just holding up a mirror there.
If you don't like the reflection you see..............


>I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches, same words,
>same jokes.


That's because I admire his language skills and his humor.
Don't forget that English isn't my native language, so I'll have to
mimick other's use of it.

Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me
your clone? ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message
ups.com
>
> We disagree about Sander, no big deal.

> IMO, he is an interesting and pleasant guy.

The more he becomes like Middius, the less interesting and pleasant he
becomes.

He's mimicking Middius' fecal obsessions.

>As before, YMMV.

Whatever. Let's move on.

[Sander deWaal]

"Michael McKelvy" > said:

>> Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very rapidly.
>> He's part of the Middius team, just like Richman and Sackman.

>No, he's not. He just disagrees with you. You could easily have cordial
>converstaions with him if you wanted them.


You might be surprised how much we actually have in common when it
concerns audio (customer's DBTs excluded).

Arny doesn't read my posts very well I'm afraid.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

"Michael McKelvy" > said:

>It is good enough for me.


Thanks, Mike. Appreciated!

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>
>>> there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
>>> IMO, Sander is not in that number.
>
>> Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it all
>> the time.

> I'm just holding up a mirror there.

That's the usual Middius line. Congratualtions Sander, your programming is
coming along just fine.

> If you don't like the reflection you see...

It's not my reflection Sander, its something that you now admit that you
thought about, and conscously did. Not only that, you're obviously proud of
your handiwork.

>> I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches,
>> same words, same jokes.

> That's because I admire his language skills and his humor.

Language skills? Middius must be doing that in his private emails to you,
because they don't show up here.

> Don't forget that English isn't my native language, so I'll have to
> mimick other's use of it.

Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded, Sander.

> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me your
> clone? ;-)

Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to becoming a
Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and proudly do such a thing
to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking illegal drugs.

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> "Michael McKelvy" > said:
>
>>> Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very
>>> rapidly. He's part of the Middius team, just like Richman and
>>> Sackman.
>
>> No, he's not. He just disagrees with you. You could easily have
>> cordial converstaions with him if you wanted them.
>
>
> You might be surprised how much we actually have in common when it
> concerns audio (customer's DBTs excluded).
>
> Arny doesn't read my posts very well I'm afraid.

What's to read?

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>>> Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it all
>>> the time.

>> I'm just holding up a mirror there.

>That's the usual Middius line. Congratualtions Sander, your programming is
>coming along just fine.


Are you able to interpolate a dotted line?
How many times have you trashed a thread about tube or vinyl audio?


>> If you don't like the reflection you see...

>It's not my reflection Sander, its something that you now admit that you
>thought about, and conscously did. Not only that, you're obviously proud of
>your handiwork.


IMHO, you're projecting.
Don't shoot the messenger!


>>> I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches,
>>> same words, same jokes.

>> That's because I admire his language skills and his humor.

>Language skills? Middius must be doing that in his private emails to you,
>because they don't show up here.


They show up in both.
Maybe I'm easily impressed.


>> Don't forget that English isn't my native language, so I'll have to
>> mimick other's use of it.

>Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded, Sander.


I could now use that mirror trick again and say: "there's no such word
as dielect in my dictionary, so we can safely assume your above claim
to be false".


>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me your
>> clone? ;-)

>Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to becoming a
>Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and proudly do such a thing
>to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking illegal drugs.


I have been there, done that, too.

For me, RAO is a source of fun and humor, Arnold.
If you could see it that way as well, you'd probably be a happier
person.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message

> Sander deWaal said:
>
>> The statement was about aims in audio.
>> I'm not defending anyone, I'm just playing my own game and having
>> fun.
>
> Krooger is a with-me-or-against-me type of 'borg. Untreated paranoia
> does that to a "person".

What was that, that Sander said about mirrors?

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>
>>>> Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it
>>>> all the time.
>
>>> I'm just holding up a mirror there.
>
>> That's the usual Middius line. Congratualtions Sander, your
>> programming is coming along just fine.
>
>
> Are you able to interpolate a dotted line?
> How many times have you trashed a thread about tube or vinyl audio?

I don't trash them, I elevate them to relevance to reality.

>>> If you don't like the reflection you see...

>> It's not my reflection Sander, its something that you now admit that
>> you thought about, and conscously did. Not only that, you're
>> obviously proud of your handiwork.

> IMHO, you're projecting.

How Middius-like. How Richman-like.

> Don't shoot the messenger!

The messenger is already dead.

>>>> I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches,
>>>> same words, same jokes.

>>> That's because I admire his language skills and his humor.

>> Language skills? Middius must be doing that in his private emails to
>> you, because they don't show up here.

> They show up in both.

IMO, you're dreaming Sander.

> Maybe I'm easily impressed.

To say the least.

>>> Don't forget that English isn't my native language, so I'll have to
>>> mimick other's use of it.

>> Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded, Sander.

> I could now use that mirror trick again and say: "there's no such word
> as dielect in my dictionary, so we can safely assume your above claim
> to be false".

Do so at your own risk, Sander. The game of playing picky-picky with
spelling and syntax is just me mirroring Middius.


>>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me
>>> your clone? ;-)

>> Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to becoming
>> a Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and proudly do
>> such a thing to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking illegal drugs.

> I have been there, done that, too.

No!!!!!!!!!

> For me, RAO is a source of fun and humor, Arnold.

Then I won't feel bad about having more fun at your expense. Sander. Why, I
almost thought I saw a glimmer of feeling in your comment about me trashing
tubes and vinyl threads. It's all just fun, eh Sander?

> If you could see it that way as well, you'd probably be a happier person.

I am a very happy person, Sander. I'm smiling as I type this. Now just be
sure to never complain about what I do here, since I do it all in fun.

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message

> Sander deWaal said:
>
>> You might be surprised how much we actually have in common when it
>> concerns audio (customer's DBTs excluded).
>>
>> Arny doesn't read my posts very well I'm afraid.
>
> Of course not. You're one of his "enemies". Nothing you say can be
> trusted or accepted. You were probably the one who sent him those
> porno-laden emails. ;-)

Nahh, it was probably one of Marc's buds. He seems to like to wallow in that
sort of thing.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>>>> Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very
>>>> rapidly. He's part of the Middius team, just like Richman and
>>>> Sackman.

>>> No, he's not. He just disagrees with you. You could easily have
>>> cordial converstaions with him if you wanted them.

>> You might be surprised how much we actually have in common when it
>> concerns audio (customer's DBTs excluded).

>> Arny doesn't read my posts very well I'm afraid.

>What's to read?


At the moment, very little.
Just concentrate a bit on my audio posts.
They are there, sometimes.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius > said:

>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me
>> your clone?

>Indeed you are skilled at Krooglish, but as I've cautioned many RAOers, be
>careful not to get in over your head. Anybody can get carried away and
>start spending too much time in the toilet.


Only when I've eaten fish.


>> ;-)

>That's meant in the cleanest sense, right? ;-)


Did I already say you're an idiot? ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius > said:

>> Arny doesn't read my posts very well I'm afraid.

>Of course not. You're one of his "enemies". Nothing you say can be trusted
>or accepted. You were probably the one who sent him those porno-laden
>emails. ;-)


Umm......I wasn't around about that time.

My POV regarding that subject is well known, even with Arny.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>> How many times have you trashed a thread about tube or vinyl audio?

>I don't trash them, I elevate them to relevance to reality.


<sigh> Do as I say, not as I do.
I get the message loud and clear, Arny.


>>> Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded, Sander.

>> I could now use that mirror trick again and say: "there's no such word
>> as dielect in my dictionary, so we can safely assume your above claim
>> to be false".

>Do so at your own risk, Sander. The game of playing picky-picky with
>spelling and syntax is just me mirroring Middius.


Ah! So that's the reason.
Glad you cleared that up!


>>>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me
>>>> your clone? ;-)

>>> Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to becoming
>>> a Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and proudly do
>>> such a thing to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking illegal drugs.

>> I have been there, done that, too.

>No!!!!!!!!!


Yes. Surprised? ;-)


>> For me, RAO is a source of fun and humor, Arnold.

>Then I won't feel bad about having more fun at your expense. Sander. Why, I
>almost thought I saw a glimmer of feeling in your comment about me trashing
>tubes and vinyl threads. It's all just fun, eh Sander?


Just like I almost thought I saw a glimmer of feeling in your comment
about me being fluid in Krooglish. It's all just "fun ;-)", eh Arnold?


>> If you could see it that way as well, you'd probably be a happier person.

>I am a very happy person, Sander. I'm smiling as I type this. Now just be
>sure to never complain about what I do here, since I do it all in fun.


I'm glad you're admitting to be happy, Arnold.
From the tone of your posts, it surely doesn't seem that way.

And complaining about what you do here is part of the fun for me! ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>
>>> How many times have you trashed a thread about tube or vinyl audio?
>
>> I don't trash them, I elevate them to relevance to reality.

> <sigh> Do as I say, not as I do.

I'l stick by what I did. I was cogent and factual.

> I get the message loud and clear, Arny.

Really? You sure you're not saying this just in fun?

>>>> Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded,
>>>> Sander.

>>> I could now use that mirror trick again and say: "there's no such
>>> word as dielect in my dictionary, so we can safely assume your
>>> above claim to be false".

>> Do so at your own risk, Sander. The game of playing picky-picky with
>> spelling and syntax is just me mirroring Middius.

> Ah! So that's the reason.

I don't think you realize how repetitive and transparent Middius is.

> Glad you cleared that up!

I think that it may go back to Middius' predecessor, Derrida.

>>>>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make
>>>>> me your clone? ;-)

>>>> Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to
>>>> becoming a Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and
>>>> proudly do such a thing to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking
>>>> illegal drugs.

>>> I have been there, done that, too.

>> No!!!!!!!!!

> Yes. Surprised? ;-)

In some alternative universe, perhaps.

>>> For me, RAO is a source of fun and humor, Arnold.

>> Then I won't feel bad about having more fun at your expense. Sander.
>> Why, I almost thought I saw a glimmer of feeling in your comment
>> about me trashing tubes and vinyl threads. It's all just fun, eh
>> Sander?

> Just like I almost thought I saw a glimmer of feeling in your comment
> about me being fluid in Krooglish. It's all just "fun ;-)", eh Arnold?

Krooglish is just more Middius posturing. He may be proud of how he writes,
but he seems to be proud of many things that would not be ordinarily be
considered worthy of pride. I would say that his trashing of Jim Sanders and
his wife were among the more heinous things that Middius has ever done. At
one point Jim seemed to idolize Middius.

>
>>> If you could see it that way as well, you'd probably be a happier
>>> person.
>
>> I am a very happy person, Sander. I'm smiling as I type this. Now
>> just be sure to never complain about what I do here, since I do it
>> all in fun.

> I'm glad you're admitting to be happy, Arnold.

It's an admission that causes me no unhappiness. ;-)

> From the tone of your posts, it surely doesn't seem that way.

It's easy to sound angry in written communications. *Everybody* knows that,
right?

> And complaining about what you do here is part of the fun for me! ;-)

Nahh, you break stride when you do that. Gotcha!

[[email protected]]

Sander deWaal wrote:
> said:
>
> >The CX is the swoopy one from Ca. 1974, yes? I always liked/admired
> >Citreons but was scared off by lack of any real support here in the
US.
>
>
> Correct. There are 2 versions though, only slightly different.
> The second model ( "phase 2") was sold in small quantities in the USA
> as well, but rebranded CXA and not affiliated with Citroen:
> http://www.citroen-ca.com/CXguide.html
>
> My CX:
> http://www.citroen.demon.nl/Img14.jpg
> http://www.citroen.demon.nl/Img15.jpg
> http://www.citroen.demon.nl/Img17.jpg
>
>


Sander, your CX has headlamps that I had thought were only used for the
US market (due to US regs mandating "sealed beam" headlamps in effect
at that time). I'm sure you can set me straight on this. :-)
>

BTW, your CX is a great looking car.....so *very* French.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
...
> "Michael McKelvy" > said:
>
>>It is good enough for me.
>
>
> Thanks, Mike. Appreciated!
>
> --
As always, I call them as I see them.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Tom" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote
>
>> That said, he's dead on in other areas of personality assessment
>
> No he's not. You don't know any of those people.

I can only judge tehm by the actions they take here.

How many of the people
> you find so offensive have you actually met? I've met over a dozen of the
> folks from this group and every one of them was down to earth and
> pleasant.

Then why the vitriol from so many of them?

> And that includes a couple of Arny's buddys from Detroit. The people he
> assesses for you are no more nasty than Torry-booy himself or you or
> Lionel or Kruger. I've played here as long as you have. Everyone is
> nasty here. It's endless, endless, endless back and forth nastiness.

I note some are worse than others and some are bad almost all of the time.

I know that when I first started participating here, there were some, like
Zip who attacked what I said instantly and others who were willing to
discuss.

But it should stay
> here.

I agree that if it's going to happen it shoould stay here, but I see no
reason why it should be going on in the first place. This is audio, a
technology based hobby that is supposed to provide people with pleasure.

That's the problem with your chicken**** little buddy.

He's not a buddy, he's just someone I tend to agree with about many of the
people he criticizes.

He's reaching
> out. He's trying to harrass my wife to get back at me.

And I don't believe that is neccessary.

He can't stand up
> to me here on a level playing field. He probably couldn't stand up to me
> face to face either. That's why he won't reveal his identity or call. He
> gives all kinds of excuses, but you would think a guy that pretends to be
> as tough as he does would love to give me an earful on the phone as well.
> No such luck. He's a chicken**** coward, but I digress.

So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments? What's your side
of the story?

[Arny Krueger]

"Tom" > wrote in message

> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote

>> That said, he's dead on in other areas of personality assessment

> No he's not. You don't know any of those people. How many of the
> people you find so offensive have you actually met?

So when did you and I meet, Tom?

> I've met over a
> dozen of the folks from this group and every one of them was down to
> earth and pleasant. And that includes a couple of Arny's buddys from
> Detroit.

People tend to be a lot more civil in person. For one things, their
in-person actions might have in-person consequences.

> The people he assesses for you are no more nasty than
> Torry-booy himself or you or Lionel or Kruger.

I suspect that some of the Middius clique are nice enough old codgers in
person.

> I've played here as long as you have.

Not unless you have an impressive list of aliases, Tom. If so, spill the
beans or let the Google record of your non-participation here stand.

> Everyone is nasty here.

Not true. I treat newbies with all the respect that they deserve.

> It's endless, endless, endless back and forth nastiness.

Middius and his clique tend to set the pace.

>But it should stay here. That's
> the problem with your chicken**** little buddy. He's reaching out.

Interesting how you can't seem to see the same about Middius.

> He's trying to harrass my wife to get back at me.

So you say without documentation or any proof.

> He can't stand up
> to me here on a level playing field.

He seems to be doing just fine!

> He probably couldn't stand up to me face to face either.

Ditto.

> That's why he won't reveal his identity or call.

I thought you just said that "it should stay" here, Tom. Here is RAO, right?

Do try to not contradict yourself!

> He gives all kinds of excuses, but you would think a guy
> that pretends to be as tough as he does would love to give me an
> earful on the phone as well. No such luck. He's a chicken****
> coward, but I digress.

No Tom, you posture without supporting evidence.

[[email protected]]

The Cit is actually pretty reliable when maintained by "the book", all
except the SM with its Maserati V6, and early "Citromatic" models. In
both cases there are fixes for the sufficiently motivated. However it's
strictly a DIY proposition in the U.S. and you have to be willing to
maintain a stock of parts. Learning to speak French or having a
secretary or assistant who does so is a big plus, as is a lot of
aircraft hydraulic and sheetmetal expertise.
Ferraris are actually a lot less bother.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>>
>>>>> Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it
>>>>> all the time.
>>
>>>> I'm just holding up a mirror there.
>>
>>> That's the usual Middius line. Congratualtions Sander, your
>>> programming is coming along just fine.
>>
>>
>> Are you able to interpolate a dotted line?
>> How many times have you trashed a thread about tube or vinyl audio?
>
> I don't trash them, I elevate them to relevance to reality.
>
>>>> If you don't like the reflection you see...
>
>>> It's not my reflection Sander, its something that you now admit that
>>> you thought about, and conscously did. Not only that, you're
>>> obviously proud of your handiwork.
>
>> IMHO, you're projecting.
>
> How Middius-like. How Richman-like.
>
>> Don't shoot the messenger!
>
> The messenger is already dead.
>
>>>>> I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches,
>>>>> same words, same jokes.
>
>>>> That's because I admire his language skills and his humor.
>
>>> Language skills? Middius must be doing that in his private emails to
>>> you, because they don't show up here.
>
>> They show up in both.
>
> IMO, you're dreaming Sander.
>
>> Maybe I'm easily impressed.
>
> To say the least.
>
>>>> Don't forget that English isn't my native language, so I'll have to
>>>> mimick other's use of it.
>
>>> Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded, Sander.
>
>> I could now use that mirror trick again and say: "there's no such word
>> as dielect in my dictionary, so we can safely assume your above claim
>> to be false".
>
> Do so at your own risk, Sander. The game of playing picky-picky with
> spelling and syntax is just me mirroring Middius.
>
But it's a game we both have played.
>
>>>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me
>>>> your clone? ;-)
>
>>> Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to becoming
>>> a Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and proudly do
>>> such a thing to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking illegal drugs.
>
>> I have been there, done that, too.
>
> No!!!!!!!!!
>
>> For me, RAO is a source of fun and humor, Arnold.
>
> Then I won't feel bad about having more fun at your expense. Sander.

I'm certain that if you weren't hostile to Sander, he would not be hostile
to you. Give it a try. The others are lost causes, but Sander is not them.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>>>> How many times have you trashed a thread about tube or vinyl audio?

>>> I don't trash them, I elevate them to relevance to reality.

>> <sigh> Do as I say, not as I do.

>I'l stick by what I did. I was cogent and factual.


You were even more than that.


>> I get the message loud and clear, Arny.

>Really? You sure you're not saying this just in fun?


Who knows? ;-)


>I don't think you realize how repetitive and transparent Middius is.


Sounds like Windows ;-)


>> Glad you cleared that up!

>I think that it may go back to Middius' predecessor, Derrida.


Ah, those were the times.
1000+ lines of impeccable written English.


>Krooglish is just more Middius posturing. He may be proud of how he writes,
>but he seems to be proud of many things that would not be ordinarily be
>considered worthy of pride. I would say that his trashing of Jim Sanders and
>his wife were among the more heinous things that Middius has ever done. At
>one point Jim seemed to idolize Middius.


Are you now saying that Middius makes you do it? ;-)


>It's easy to sound angry in written communications. *Everybody* knows that,
>right?


'Xcept that you don't sound angry, Arnold.
It's more like tormented, agonized, a wounded animal.

Just my perception, note.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> > "Tom" > wrote in message


>
> > It's endless, endless, endless back and forth nastiness.
>
> Middius and his clique tend to set the pace.
>
>

Set the pace *and* push the outside of the envelope.
>
>
> >But it should stay here. That's
> > the problem with your chicken**** little buddy. He's reaching out.
>
> Interesting how you can't seem to see the same about Middius.
>
>
Tom-the-hypocrite whines "it should stay here", but he doesn't seem to
mind when his buddy Marc Phillips *boasts* about having falsely
reported you to your local PD as a pedophile. And Tom-the-hypocrite
*revels* in the illicit, illegal recording of a private telephone
conversation made and distributed by his whack-job pal "The Devil". Tom
Albertz is a lying, posturing piece of crap.
>
> > He's trying to harrass my wife to get back at me.
>
> So you say without documentation or any proof.
>
>
Proof??? Tom don't need no steenkin' proof. If he says it's so, it's
so!
>

[Sander deWaal]

Paul Dormer > said:


>>My CX:
>>http://www.citroen.demon.nl/Img14.jpg

>I can almost see my face in it! What polish do you use? Any tips for
>getting the shine back on a slightly dull finish?


Umm......these pictures were taken right after the paint job ;-)
You don't want to see what she looks like at this moment, with all
that salt on the roads........

We have stuff like "Commandant" polish, won't work when the paint
layer is too thin though.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message
ups.com

>-the-hypocrite whines "it should stay here", but he doesn't seem to
> mind when his buddy Marc Phillips *boasts* about having falsely
> reported you to your local PD as a pedophile.

....and stalking my house, and...

> And Tom-the-hypocrite
> *revels* in the illicit, illegal recording of a private telephone
> conversation made and distributed by his whack-job pal "The Devil".

Yes, that as well. Tom loves to dish it out, but he screams like a stuck pig
when its inbound.

> Tom Albertz is a lying, posturing piece of crap.

Well, whoever *this* Tom is. His IP address does trace out fairly reasonbly.

[Sander deWaal]

said:

>Sander, your CX has headlamps that I had thought were only used for the
>US market (due to US regs mandating "sealed beam" headlamps in effect
>at that time). I'm sure you can set me straight on this. :-)


That's right, I'm surprised you actually know this.
You've probably seen the original head lights, and my CX was fitted
with them when I bought her.

However, I like the look of these over the original headlights, makes
her look real mean in other people's rear view mirrors :-)


>BTW, your CX is a great looking car.....so *very* French.


Thanks, I'll pass on the compliments to her!

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
nk.net

> I'm certain that if you weren't hostile to Sander, he would not be
> hostile to you. Give it a try. The others are lost causes, but
> Sander is not them.

Sander seems to start every day with a new post that is hostile towards me.
Let him stop doing that and see where it leads.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Sander wrote:


>"Arny Krueger" > said:
>
>>Sander's sliding down the slippery slope to Middiushood very rapidly. He's
>>part of the Middius team, just like Richman and Sackman.
>
>
>What can I say? It is your perception at work here. ;-)
>
>
>>He loves to pile on with them.
>
>

Krueger''s hypocrisy is illustrated in his constant efforts to contribute to
the personal attacks of his small set of groupies, such as torresists, Lionel &
McKelvy. Their little tete a tetes, usually initiated by Krueger, are part of
their conspiracy theory mentality. They see cliques, "usual suspects" and
:"teams" behind every NG post.


>At times I do, yes.
>You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with everybody
>on RAO.

As opposed to Krueger, who gets allong with practically nobody on RAO except
the very few supporters listed above.

>
>>>A good guy, albeit one whose aims in audio are completely different than
>>>yours.
>
>>Agreed that unlike Sander, I have no interest in defending or assisting
>>Middius, Richman or Sackman.
>
>
>The statement was about aims in audio.
>I'm not defending anyone, I'm just playing my own game and having fun.
>
>--
>Sander de Waal
>" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "
>
>
>
>
>
>


Bruce J. Richman

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius > said:

>> >Indeed you are skilled at Krooglish, but as I've cautioned many RAOers, be
>> >careful not to get in over your head. Anybody can get carried away and
>> >start spending too much time in the toilet.

>> Only when I've eaten fish.

>That's odd. I'd have thought you're more vulnerable to corned beef.


That, too.
And chocolate muffins, you will note.


>Don't you love that lutefisk stuff from up north?


Nope, I'll let Fella take care of that ;-)


>> Did I already say you're an idiot? ;-)

>I'm sending you an amplifier for repair. Be a good geek and open the box
>out in the garage, OK? No need to expose your wife and kids to your
>orgasmic enjoyment of broken things. ;-)


My wife and cats, you mean?
However, by all means, send your amp over here and I'll see if I can
sneak some "tubes ;-)" into it.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>I suspect that some of the Middius clique are nice enough old codgers in
>person.


Does that include *me*, Arnold?

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:


>> I'm certain that if you weren't hostile to Sander, he would not be
>> hostile to you. Give it a try. The others are lost causes, but
>> Sander is not them.

>Sander seems to start every day with a new post that is hostile towards me.
>Let him stop doing that and see where it leads.


"Sander makes me do it"? ;-)

OK Arn, I'll stop my hostilities against you as soon as you tell me
what you consider hostile.

Are my fun comments about Krooglish hostile?

Are my pointing out your spelling errors hostile, while you do the
same?

Are my replies in similar wording as yours, hostile?

Is simply talking about tubes and vinyl hostile?

Or is disagreeing with you about anything, hostile?

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Lionel]

Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

> Krueger''s hypocrisy is illustrated in his constant efforts to contribute to
> the personal attacks of his small set of groupies, such as torresists, Lionel &
> McKelvy. Their little tete a tetes, usually initiated by Krueger, are part of
> their conspiracy theory mentality. They see cliques, "usual suspects" and
> :"teams" behind every NG post.

At this point don't you have an interesting audio thread to start, Ô
Senescent Debris ?

Since you are a fervent promoter of the moderated NG I cannot understand
why you spend more time on RAO in nasty discussion than on RAHE in
serious audio debate.

In fact you are not different you prefer to feed yourself with what you
find in RAO sewers... :-)

[Tom]

> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
> Wh=ADat's your side of the story?

I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
believe it. All I know is that he kept some bad pictures on his
computer a long time for some reason. I also know that he's a jerk.
Read his response to the same one of my posts that you responded to.
He begs for nastiness. And he is a screaming nerd.

[Tom]

> No Tom, you posture without supporting evidence.
and you're a geek with a squeaky voice.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
>
>> Krueger''s hypocrisy is illustrated in his constant efforts to contribute
>to
>> the personal attacks of his small set of groupies, such as torresists,
>Lionel &
>> McKelvy. Their little tete a tetes, usually initiated by Krueger, are part
>of
>> their conspiracy theory mentality. They see cliques, "usual suspects" and
>> :"teams" behind every NG post.
>
>At this point don't you have an interesting audio thread to start, Ô
>Senescent Debris ?
>

Anything relatred to audio would be over your hade, Anti-Semitic Delusional
French Poodle (and Krueger wannabe). Your worthlessness would be even more
apparent if forced to deal with facts rather than your fantasies.


>Since you are a fervent promoter of the moderated NG I cannot understand
>why you spend more time on RAO in nasty discussion than on RAHE in
>serious audio debate.
>

How is it that you are rarely if ever seen there? Would it be because you
have noting of value to say on any subject dealing with facts, rather than
delusional false claims? Or would it be that, like Krueger, you can't get by
the moderators because of your basic hostility towards practically rational
people and your inability to talk rationally with others?


Bruce J. Richman

[Arny Krueger]

"Tom" > wrote in message
ups.com

>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>> Wh*at's your side of the story?

> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
> was just me being nasty.

There you go. According to Tom, there's no need to take responsibility for
what you say if you say it while you are being nasty.

[Lionel]

Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
> Lionel wrote:
>
>
>
>>Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
>>
>>
>>>Krueger''s hypocrisy is illustrated in his constant efforts to contribute
>>
>>to
>>
>>>the personal attacks of his small set of groupies, such as torresists,
>>
>>Lionel &
>>
>>>McKelvy. Their little tete a tetes, usually initiated by Krueger, are part
>>
>>of
>>
>>>their conspiracy theory mentality. They see cliques, "usual suspects" and
>>>:"teams" behind every NG post.
>>
>>At this point don't you have an interesting audio thread to start, Ô
>>Senescent Debris ?
>>
>
>
> Anything relatred

Do you mean realHatred ?

> to audio would be over your hade,

Over my what ?

> Anti-Semitic Delusional
> French Poodle (and Krueger wannabe). Your worthlessness would be even more
> apparent if forced to deal with facts rather than your fantasies.
>
>
>
>>Since you are a fervent promoter of the moderated NG I cannot understand
>>why you spend more time on RAO in nasty discussion than on RAHE in
>>serious audio debate.
>>
>
>
> How is it that you are rarely if ever seen there?

Because I have nothing interesting to say on RAHE, nothing else.
I don't care to speak 100 times of the poor audio system merits.

Don't repeat it but I haven't *any* interest in high-end audio. I just
like music.

> Would it be because you
> have noting of value to say on any subject dealing with facts, rather than
> delusional false claims?

Because I have nothing to say on RAHE, nothing else.
Note that delusional false claims about audio are minor sins compare to
your behaviour on RAO.

> Or would it be that, like Krueger, you can't get by
> the moderators because of your basic hostility towards practically rational
> people and your inability to talk rationally with others?

I have the fun I need on RAO. I push your "zealot" button, you answer
and I like it.

[Arny Krueger]

"Tom" > wrote in message
oups.com

>> No Tom, you posture without supporting evidence.

> and you're a geek with a squeaky voice.

Just guessing, but Roy probably worked similar *magic* on whatever recording
you may have heard, as he has worked on some pictures of me.

Perhaps this might give me an advantage in New York. People will be
expecting something horrific, and out will come a fairly average baritone
voice.

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>
>
>>> I'm certain that if you weren't hostile to Sander, he would not be
>>> hostile to you. Give it a try. The others are lost causes, but
>>> Sander is not them.
>
>> Sander seems to start every day with a new post that is hostile
>> towards me. Let him stop doing that and see where it leads.
>
>
> "Sander makes me do it"? ;-)
>
> OK Arn, I'll stop my hostilities against you as soon as you tell me
> what you consider hostile.

I'll take a big risk here and expect you to show some common sense, Sander.

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Tom" > wrote in message
> ups.com
>
> >> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
> >> Wh=ADat's your side of the story?
>
> > I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did,
it
> > was just me being nasty.
>
> There you go. According to Tom, there's no need to take
responsibility for
> what you say if you say it while you are being nasty.
>
>

Good ol' Tom-the-hypocrite is conveniently forgetting about the forged
(posing as Benchimol) email he sent to me urging me to report you to
the police. How's that for "keep(ing) it to RAO"?

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message
ups.com
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>> ups.com
>>
>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?

>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>> was just me being nasty.

>> There you go. According to Tom, there's no need to take responsibility
>> for
>> what you say if you say it while you are being nasty.

> Good ol' Tom-the-hypocrite is conveniently forgetting about the forged
> (posing as Benchimol) email he sent to me urging me to report you to
> the police. How's that for "keep(ing) it to RAO"?

Letsee, and after doing that to me, he says I beg for nastiness? What
exactly is he begging for from me?

[[email protected]]

Lionel wrote:
> Bruce J. Richman a =E9crit :
> > Lionel wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Bruce J. Richman a =E9crit :
> >>
> >>
> >>>Krueger''s hypocrisy is illustrated in his constant efforts to
contribute
> >>
> >>to
> >>
> >>>the personal attacks of his small set of groupies, such as
torresists,
> >>
> >>Lionel &
> >>
> >>>McKelvy. Their little tete a tetes, usually initiated by Krueger,
are part
> >>
> >>of
> >>
> >>>their conspiracy theory mentality. They see cliques, "usual
suspects" and
> >>>:"teams" behind every NG post.
> >>
> >>At this point don't you have an interesting audio thread to start,
=D4
> >>Senescent Debris ?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Anything relatred
>
> Do you mean realHatred ?
>
> > to audio would be over your hade,
>
> Over my what ?
>
> > Anti-Semitic Delusional
> > French Poodle (and Krueger wannabe). Your worthlessness would be
even more
> > apparent if forced to deal with facts rather than your fantasies.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Since you are a fervent promoter of the moderated NG I cannot
understand
> >>why you spend more time on RAO in nasty discussion than on RAHE in
> >>serious audio debate.
> >>
> >
> >
> > How is it that you are rarely if ever seen there?
>
> Because I have nothing interesting to say on RAHE, nothing else.
> I don't care to speak 100 times of the poor audio system merits.
>
> Don't repeat it but I haven't *any* interest in high-end audio. I
just
> like music.
>
> > Would it be because you
> > have noting of value to say on any subject dealing with facts,
rather than
> > delusional false claims?
>
> Because I have nothing to say on RAHE, nothing else.
> Note that delusional false claims about audio are minor sins compare
to
> your behaviour on RAO.
>
> > Or would it be that, like Krueger, you can't get by
> > the moderators because of your basic hostility towards practically
rational
> > people and your inability to talk rationally with others?
>
> I have the fun I need on RAO. I push your "zealot" button, you answer
> and I like it.
>
>

Perhaps we should call him "AutoRepeatQuack"?

[[email protected]]

Tom-the-hypocrite wrote:
>
>


>
> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
> believe it.
>
>

Are you saying that your pal Marc Phillips is a liar?

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>> OK Arn, I'll stop my hostilities against you as soon as you tell me
>> what you consider hostile.

>I'll take a big risk here and expect you to show some common sense, Sander.


What an assumption to make ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Bruce J. Richman]

wrote:

> Lionel wrote:
> > Bruce J. Richman a =E9crit :
> > > Lionel wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Bruce J. Richman a =E9crit :
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Krueger''s hypocrisy is illustrated in his constant efforts to
> contribute
> > >>
> > >>to
> > >>
> > >>>the personal attacks of his small set of groupies, such as
> torresists,
> > >>
> > >>Lionel &
> > >>
> > >>>McKelvy. Their little tete a tetes, usually initiated by
Krueger,
> are part
> > >>
> > >>of
> > >>
> > >>>their conspiracy theory mentality. They see cliques, "usual
> suspects" and
> > >>>:"teams" behind every NG post.
> > >>
> > >>At this point don't you have an interesting audio thread to
start,
> =D4
> > >>Senescent Debris ?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Anything relatred
> >
> > Do you mean realHatred ?
> >
> > > to audio would be over your hade,
> >
> > Over my what ?
> >
> > > Anti-Semitic Delusional
> > > French Poodle (and Krueger wannabe). Your worthlessness would be
> even more
> > > apparent if forced to deal with facts rather than your fantasies.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Since you are a fervent promoter of the moderated NG I cannot
> understand
> > >>why you spend more time on RAO in nasty discussion than on RAHE
in
> > >>serious audio debate.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > How is it that you are rarely if ever seen there?
> >
> > Because I have nothing interesting to say on RAHE, nothing else.
> > I don't care to speak 100 times of the poor audio system merits.
> >
> > Don't repeat it but I haven't *any* interest in high-end audio. I
> just
> > like music.
> >
> > > Would it be because you
> > > have noting of value to say on any subject dealing with facts,
> rather than
> > > delusional false claims?
> >
> > Because I have nothing to say on RAHE, nothing else.
> > Note that delusional false claims about audio are minor sins
compare
> to
> > your behaviour on RAO.
> >
> > > Or would it be that, like Krueger, you can't get by
> > > the moderators because of your basic hostility towards
practically
> rational
> > > people and your inability to talk rationally with others?
> >
> > I have the fun I need on RAO. I push your "zealot" button, you
answer
> > and I like it.
> >
> >
>
> Perhaps we should call him "AutoRepeatQuack"?

It appears that the Delusional French Poodle (Krueger wannabe) and
TurdInsists are in love. Let's all hope they don't reproduce. The
gene pool has already been severely damaged by their questionable
existence.

[Lionel]

Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
> ...damaged by their questionable existence.

Jealous, you say that because your is touching to the end.


:-D

[[email protected]]

AutoRepeatQuack quacked:

> > > >Delusional
> > > delusional
> Delusional
>
>


Quack
Quack
Quack

;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"Tom" > wrote in message
ups.com

>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>
> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
> believe it.

Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel babbled:


>Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
>> Lionel wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>>>Krueger''s hypocrisy is illustrated in his constant efforts to contribute
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>the personal attacks of his small set of groupies, such as torresists,
>>>
>>>Lionel &
>>>
>>>>McKelvy. Their little tete a tetes, usually initiated by Krueger, are
>part
>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>>their conspiracy theory mentality. They see cliques, "usual suspects" and
>>>>:"teams" behind every NG post.
>>>
>>>At this point don't you have an interesting audio thread to start, Ô
>>>Senescent Debris ?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Anything relatred
>
>Do you mean realHatred ?
>
>> to audio would be over your hade,
>
>Over my what ?
>
>> Anti-Semitic Delusional
>> French Poodle (and Krueger wannabe). Your worthlessness would be even more
>> apparent if forced to deal with facts rather than your fantasies.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Since you are a fervent promoter of the moderated NG I cannot understand
>>>why you spend more time on RAO in nasty discussion than on RAHE in
>>>serious audio debate.
>>>
>>
>>
>> How is it that you are rarely if ever seen there?
>
>Because I have nothing interesting to say on RAHE, nothing else.
>I don't care to speak 100 times of the poor audio system merits.
>
>Don't repeat it but I haven't *any* interest in high-end audio. I just
>like music.
>
>> Would it be because you
>> have noting of value to say on any subject dealing with facts, rather than
>> delusional false claims?
>
>Because I have nothing to say on RAHE, nothing else.
>Note that delusional false claims about audio are minor sins compare to
>your behaviour on RAO.
>

You're incompetent to evaluate anybody's behavior. Yours, of course, is
despicable and ridiculed by mnst of us.


>> Or would it be that, like Krueger, you can't get by
>> the moderators because of your basic hostility towards practically rational
>> people and your inability to talk rationally with others?
>
>I have the fun I need on RAO. I push your "zealot" button, you answer
>and I like it.
>

Every time I mention your name, Delusional French Poodle, you yelp and squeal
just like one of Pavlov's highly conditioned lab animals. I enjoy your
exhibitions of your stupidity and mindlessness. It's fun to know that puppets
like you can be so easily conditioned to jump through hoops. :)




Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote::


>Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
>> ...damaged by their questionable existence.
>
>Jealous, you say that because your is touching to the end.
>
>
>:-D
>
>

Incoherent word salad with French Dressing and Whine noted.


Bruce J. Richman

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Tom" > wrote in message
> ups.com
>
> >> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
> >> Wh=ADat's your side of the story?
> >
> > I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did,
it
> > was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
> > believe it.
>
> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman,
Marc
> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>
>


Following the "logic" of Marc Phillips, Tom Albertz is now "supporting
a known pedophile". As is Atkinson, according to Phillips "logic".

[Lionel]

In >, Bruce J. Richman wrote :

> Lionel wrote::
>
>
>>Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
>>> ...damaged by their questionable existence.
>>
>>Jealous, you say that because your is touching to the end.
>>
>>
>>:-D
>>
>>
>
> Incoherent word salad with French Dressing and Whine noted.

As your existence will finish soon you are envious of mine. Is it clear now,
Old Debris ?

[Lionel]

In . com>,
wrote :

>
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>> ups.com
>>
>> >> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>> >> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>> >
>> > I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did,
> it
>> > was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>> > believe it.
>>
>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman,
> Marc
>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>
>>
>
>
> Following the "logic" of Marc Phillips, Tom Albertz is now "supporting
> a known pedophile". As is Atkinson, according to Phillips "logic".

"Phillips' logic"...
It's the ultimate heresy, Sir... We forgive you but it's the last time.

[[email protected]]

Lionel wrote:
> In . com>,
> wrote :
>
> >
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> >> "Tom" > wrote in message
> >> ups.com
> >>
> >> >> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
> >> >> Wh=ADat's your side of the story?
> >> >
> >> > I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I
did,
> > it
> >> > was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason
to
> >> > believe it.
> >>
> >> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman,
> > Marc
> >> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Following the "logic" of Marc Phillips, Tom Albertz is now
"supporting
> > a known pedophile". As is Atkinson, according to Phillips "logic".
>
> "Phillips' logic"...
> It's the ultimate heresy, Sir... We forgive you but it's the last
time.
>
>
You're correct, Lionel. I'm sorry; it will never happen again. :-))

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel wrote:


>In >, Bruce J. Richman wrote :
>
>> Lionel wrote::
>>
>>
>>>Bruce J. Richman a écrit :
>>>> ...damaged by their questionable existence.
>>>
>>>Jealous, you say that because your is touching to the end.
>>>
>>>
>>>:-D
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Incoherent word salad with French Dressing and Whine noted.
>
>As your existence will finish soon you are envious of mine. Is it clear now,
>Old Debris ?
>
>
>

The Delusiional French Poodle jumps through more hoops. She should join the
circus where she'll have 2 options -- either the trained animal act or the
freak show.

What a predicrable puppet she is ! LOL !!!


Bruce J. Richman

[Lionel]

In >, Bruce J. Richman wrote :


> The Delusiional French Poodle jumps through more hoops. She should join
> the circus where she'll have 2 options -- either the trained animal act or
> the freak show.
>
> What a predicrable puppet she is ! LOL !!!

Keep cool and don't laugh too much Old Debris, I wouldn't be accused for
being responsible of the ineluctable...

LOL !!!

[[email protected]]

The spelling challenged AutoRepeatQuack quacked:
>
>

>Delusiional

>predicrable
>
>


Qauck
Qcauk
Quakc


;-)

[Clyde Slick]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
...
>
> At times I do, yes.
> You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with everybody
> on RAO.
>

"At least" anyone who isn't a Beast.



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[Clyde Slick]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
...
>
> At times I do, yes.
> You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with everybody
> on RAO.
>

"At least" anyone who isn't a Beast.



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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>>
>>>> there is a band of stupid, hateful asses here, but,
>>>> IMO, Sander is not in that number.
>>
>>> Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it all
>>> the time.
>
>> I'm just holding up a mirror there.
>
> That's the usual Middius line. Congratualtions Sander, your programming is
> coming along just fine.
>
>> If you don't like the reflection you see...
>
> It's not my reflection Sander, its something that you now admit that you
> thought about, and conscously did. Not only that, you're obviously proud
> of your handiwork.
>
>>> I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches,
>>> same words, same jokes.
>
>> That's because I admire his language skills and his humor.
>
> Language skills? Middius must be doing that in his private emails to you,
> because they don't show up here.
>
>> Don't forget that English isn't my native language, so I'll have to
>> mimick other's use of it.
>
> Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded, Sander.
>
>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me your
>> clone? ;-)
>
> Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to becoming a
> Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and proudly do such a
> thing to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking illegal drugs.
Does your sphincter feel better now, or is there still
an irritating itch?



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[Clyde Slick]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
You were probably the one who sent him those porno-laden
> emails. ;-)
>

It was "Kiddie Porn on The **** Borg Express". We all did
it together, me, Middius, Richman, Benchimol, Weil, Wheeler,
JBorg, Greg, Boon, Sander, Sanders, Zipser, Zelnicker,
Banbrough, Dormer, the Devil, Steve, and any of the others
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sander deWaal" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>>
>>>>> Sure he is. He just trashed the room acoustics thead. He does it
>>>>> all the time.
>>
>>>> I'm just holding up a mirror there.
>>
>>> That's the usual Middius line. Congratualtions Sander, your
>>> programming is coming along just fine.
>>
>>
>> Are you able to interpolate a dotted line?
>> How many times have you trashed a thread about tube or vinyl audio?
>
> I don't trash them, I elevate them to relevance to reality.
>
>>>> If you don't like the reflection you see...
>
>>> It's not my reflection Sander, its something that you now admit that
>>> you thought about, and conscously did. Not only that, you're
>>> obviously proud of your handiwork.
>
>> IMHO, you're projecting.
>
> How Middius-like. How Richman-like.
>
>> Don't shoot the messenger!
>
> The messenger is already dead.
>
>>>>> I think he's a Middius clone. He's mimicing the same approaches,
>>>>> same words, same jokes.
>
>>>> That's because I admire his language skills and his humor.
>
>>> Language skills? Middius must be doing that in his private emails to
>>> you, because they don't show up here.
>
>> They show up in both.
>
> IMO, you're dreaming Sander.
>
>> Maybe I'm easily impressed.
>
> To say the least.
>
>>>> Don't forget that English isn't my native language, so I'll have to
>>>> mimick other's use of it.
>
>>> Mimicking a Middius dielect won't make you very well-rounded, Sander.
>
>> I could now use that mirror trick again and say: "there's no such word
>> as dielect in my dictionary, so we can safely assume your above claim
>> to be false".
>
> Do so at your own risk, Sander. The game of playing picky-picky with
> spelling and syntax is just me mirroring Middius.
>
>
>>>> Besides, I have become pretty fluid in Krooglish, does that make me
>>>> your clone? ;-)
>
>>> Thanks for again admittting that you're well on your way to becoming
>>> a Middius Clone, Sander. That one would knowingly and proudly do
>>> such a thing to himself amazes me. Sort of like taking illegal drugs.
>
>> I have been there, done that, too.
>
> No!!!!!!!!!
>
>> For me, RAO is a source of fun and humor, Arnold.
>
> Then I won't feel bad about having more fun at your expense. Sander. Why,
> I almost thought I saw a glimmer of feeling in your comment about me
> trashing tubes and vinyl threads. It's all just fun, eh Sander?
>
>> If you could see it that way as well, you'd probably be a happier
>> person.
>
> I am a very happy person, Sander. I'm smiling as I type this. Now just be
> sure to never complain about what I do here, since I do it all in fun.
Ah, so your sphincter 'does' feel better.



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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Tom" > wrote in message
> ups.com
>
>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>
>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>> was just me being nasty.
>
> There you go. According to Tom, there's no need to take responsibility for
> what you say if you say it while you are being nasty.
>

If irony were a speeding bus that you were about to step in front of.



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"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'll take a big risk here and expect you to show some common sense,
> Sander.
>

That comment sure was a good way to ratchet down the hostilities.



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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Tom" > wrote in message
> ups.com
>
>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>
>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>> believe it.
>
> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>

What the **** does this have to do with me?



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[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>> ups.com
>>
>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>
>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>> believe it.
>>
>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>
>
> What the **** does this have to do with me?

More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.

[Tom]

> wrote
>Good ol' Tom-the-hypocrite is conveniently forgetting about the forged
>(posing as Benchimol) email he sent to me urging me to report you to
>the police. How's that for "keep(ing) it to RAO"?

provide those please.

[Tom]

Torry-boooy wrote:
>
> Tom-the-hypocrite wrote:
>>
>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>> believe it.

> Are you saying that your pal Marc Phillips is a liar?
>

You lie. What's your point - that you're the same?

[Tom]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote
>
>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>
>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>> was just me being nasty.
>
> There you go. According to Tom, there's no need to take responsibility for
> what you say if you say it while you are being nasty.
>
Are you intelligent or are you stupid? You can't have it both ways.

Short answer: you don't admit to your nastiness.

[Tom]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote
>>
>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>> believe it.
>
> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.

You're no less a liar. Your point?

[Tom]

Torry-boooy wrote:
> Tom-the-hypocrite whines "it should stay here", but he doesn't seem to
> mind when his buddy Marc Phillips *boasts* about having falsely
> reported you to your local PD as a pedophile.

I never took it off this group. You did. Take it up with Marc.

> ...And Tom-the-hypocrite
> *revels* in the illicit, illegal recording of a private telephone
> conversation made and distributed by his whack-job pal "The Devil".

Nothing illicit or illegal about it, chicken****. I heard the recording.

> Tom Albertz is a lying, posturing piece of crap.

You're so brave!

[Michael Conzo]

In article , "Bruce J. Richman"
> wrote:

>> You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with everybody
>> on RAO.
>
> As opposed to Krueger, who gets allong with practically nobody on RAO except
> the very few supporters listed above.

How is that any different than anyone's life?

For someone who claims to be in an "understanding people" business, you
continue to show profound ignorance about how people work.

That would seem to be why so many don't believe you're claims to be a
psychologist. Perhaps there IS a "Bruce Richman" somewhere that is licenced
to do this work, but you aren't likely him.

[Tom]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote

> Yes, that as well. Tom loves to dish it out, but he screams like a stuck
> pig when its inbound.

Are you this ****ingstupid? Really?

> Well, whoever *this* Tom is.

Are you this ****ingstupid? Really?

[Bruce J. Richman]

Michael Conzo wrote:


>In article , "Bruce J. Richman"
> wrote:
>
>>> You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with everybody
>>> on RAO.
>>
>> As opposed to Krueger, who gets allong with practically nobody on RAO
>except
>> the very few supporters listed above.
>
>How is that any different than anyone's life?
>
>

I wouldn't expect Krueger apologist and supporter such as yourself to
understand it. Thanks for exhibiting your double standard-based hypocrisy.



For someone who claims to be in an "understanding people" business, you
>continue to show profound ignorance about how people work.
>

Is that your professional opinion? We can all see how *you* work in your
factually-challenged description of myself and defense of Krueger's
wide-ranging attack agenda.




>That would seem to be why so many don't believe you're claims to be a
>psychologist.

That would be just another false claim made by you and two others - McKelvy and
Krueger. Your lies are rather transparent, and probably represent those of a
Krueger sockpuppet.




Perhaps there IS a "Bruce Richman" somewhere that is licenced
>to do this work, but you aren't likely him.
>
>

Want to put some serious money on that, sockpuppet? Of course, then you'd have
to verify your idenity, and that would really be embarassing, if not impossible
for you.

You're obviously talking through your ass with the usual lack of evidence
typical of idiotic liars. Or perhaps you're just another "torresists" RAO fake
name. He's been known to use quite a few.






Bruce J. Richman

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
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"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

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[[email protected]]

Tom wrote:
> > wrote
> >Good ol' Tom-the-hypocrite is conveniently forgetting about the
forged
> >(posing as Benchimol) email he sent to me urging me to report you to
> >the police. How's that for "keep(ing) it to RAO"?
>
> provide those please.
>
>


Well, here is what I posted to RAO in September, 2002, when I received
your emails urging me to report Arny to the police. It's the complete
thread, per Google. People can draw their own conclusions:
>
>

http://tinyurl.com/6o6f2
>
>

Case closed! :-)

[Tom]

>> >Good ol' Tom-the-hypocrite is conveniently forgetting about the
> forged
>> >(posing as Benchimol) email he sent to me urging me to report you to
>> >the police. How's that for "keep(ing) it to RAO"?
>>
>> provide those please.
>>
> Well, here is what I posted to RAO in September, 2002, when I received
> your emails urging me to report Arny to the police. It's the complete
> thread, per Google. People can draw their own conclusions:

> http://tinyurl.com/6o6f2

> Case closed! :-)


No case at all nerd. Post the email. I forwarded an email to you, but
those words you quoted were Benchimol's. Not mine. And you were just
"embroiled you in the scam" as a dupe. You're as dumb now as you were then.
You're such a putz.

Case closed! ;-)

[Lionel]

Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

> That would be just another false claim made by you and two others - McKelvy and
> Krueger. Your lies are rather transparent, and probably represent those of a
> Krueger sockpuppet.

This is just a foretaste of what will be the hell for you in few time,
Doc...

....A world full of "Krueger's sockpuppets", no Middius, no possible
protection, you will be surrounded by "Krueger's sockpuppets" !!!!!
And 4 times a day, you will be obliged to participate to an ABX test
directed by Krueger himself.
Ask Devil if you don't believe me.

I wish you a "pleasant" eternity doctor Richman. ;-)

[Lionel]

Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

>>This is just a foretaste of what will be the hell for you in few time,
>>Doc...
>>
>
>
> Not in your lifetime, Lionel. Of course, you're in hell now - hated and
> despised by practically everybody.

I do my best to make you laugh and to soften your last moments among us
and you don't find anything else to tell me ?

You are an ingrate doctor Richman.


:-)

[Arny Krueger]

"Tom" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote
>>>
>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>> believe it.
>>
>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>
> You're no less a liar.

Prove it.

>Your point?

You're afraid of the truth.

[Arny Krueger]

"Bruce J. Richman" > wrote in message

> Michael Conzo wrote:

>> In article , "Bruce J.
>> Richman" > wrote:

>>>> You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with
>>>> everybody on RAO.

>>> As opposed to Krueger, who gets allong with practically nobody on
>>> RAO except >> the very few supporters listed above.

Strangely enough I regularly post to well over a dozen other audio groups,
with few if any incidents. What's different about RAO?

>> For someone who claims to be in an "understanding people" business, you
>> continue to show profound ignorance about how people work.

> Is that your professional opinion?

No, its a common-sense judgement.

>We can all see how *you* work in
> your factually-challenged description of myself and defense of
> Krueger's wide-ranging attack agenda.

I merely defend myself from a tiny fraction of the false claims that are
made against me in RAO.

>> That would seem to be why so many don't believe you're claims to be a
>> psychologist.

> That would be just another false claim made by you and two others -
> McKelvy and Krueger. Your lies are rather transparent, and probably
> represent those of a Krueger sockpuppet.

I have no sockpuppets, never did.

>> Perhaps there IS a "Bruce Richman" somewhere that is licenced
>> to do this work, but you aren't likely him.

Bruce has an unusual manner for a person who is supposedly in a healing
profession.

> Want to put some serious money on that, sockpuppet? Of course, then
> you'd have to verify your idenity, and that would really be
> embarassing, if not impossible for you.

He seems to check out on the basics- an australian posting from Australia.
He's not hiding behind an AOL id, neither is he using any of the well-known
tricks to conceal his identity.

[Tom]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Tom" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>
>> You're no less a liar.
>
> Prove it.

I see. You take my word for it when I make a statement that impugns the
honesty of those mentioned. But when I make a statement regarding your
honesty, I have to prove it. THAT'S dishonest. You're dishonest almost
every time you respond to me.

Inability to be the least bit honest noted.

[Arny Krueger]

"Tom" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>
>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did,
>>>>> it was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no
>>>>> reason to believe it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman,
>>>> Marc Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.

>>> You're no less a liar.

>> Prove it.

> I see. You take my word for it when I make a statement that impugns
> the honesty of those mentioned. But when I make a statement
> regarding your honesty, I have to prove it. THAT'S dishonest. You're
> dishonest almost every time you respond to me.

Ignorance of all of the whopping lies that I've caught the usual list of
suspects in, noted.

I don't need to prove these guys to be liars again and again for you to
ignore, Tom.

> Inability to be the least bit honest noted.

I'm done my homework - it's your turn Tom.

BTW Tom, thanks for giving Roy a free pass to tell all these ridiculous lies
about "The Tape".

[Bruce J. Richman]

Arny Krueger wrote:


>"Bruce J. Richman" > wrote in message

>> Michael Conzo wrote:
>
>>> In article , "Bruce J.
>>> Richman" > wrote:
>
>>>>> You may have noticed that I can get along fairly well with
>>>>> everybody on RAO.
>
>>>> As opposed to Krueger, who gets allong with practically nobody on
>>>> RAO except >> the very few supporters listed above.
>
>Strangely enough I regularly post to well over a dozen other audio groups,
>with few if any incidents. What's different about RAO?
>
>>> For someone who claims to be in an "understanding people" business, you
>>> continue to show profound ignorance about how people work.
>
>> Is that your professional opinion?
>
>No, its a common-sense judgement.
>

No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this false
claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the years.



> >We can all see how *you* work in
>> your factually-challenged description of myself and defense of
>> Krueger's wide-ranging attack agenda.
>
>I merely defend myself from a tiny fraction of the false claims that are
>made against me in RAO.
>

And others defend themselves against the numerous number of false claims that
you make against them on RAO.

>>> That would seem to be why so many don't believe you're claims to be a
>>> psychologist.
>
>> That would be just another false claim made by you and two others -
>> McKelvy and Krueger. Your lies are rather transparent, and probably
>> represent those of a Krueger sockpuppet.
>
>I have no sockpuppets, never did.
>
>>> Perhaps there IS a "Bruce Richman" somewhere that is licenced
>>> to do this work, but you aren't likely him.
>
>Bruce has an unusual manner for a person who is supposedly in a healing
>profession.
>

Krueger is not qualified to judge the behavior of other people. And Krueger's
false claims about me are a matter of Google record.


>> Want to put some serious money on that, sockpuppet? Of course, then
>> you'd have to verify your idenity, and that would really be
>> embarassing, if not impossible for you.
>
>He seems to check out on the basics- an australian posting from Australia.
>He's not hiding behind an AOL id, neither is he using any of the well-known
>tricks to conceal his identity.
>
>
>
>

Brian McCarty has a well-known history of posting under different pseudonyms.
And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for concealing
identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can be used
in the same way.



Bruce J. Richman

[[email protected]]

In article >,
(Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>
> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this false
> claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the years.
>
> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for concealing
> identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can be used
> in the same way.
>
>
>
> Bruce J. Richman

Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
and/or paranoid.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[Tom]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote
>
> Perhaps this might give me an advantage in New York. People will be
> expecting something horrific, and out will come a fairly average baritone
> voice.


just keep telling yourself that, nerd. and you're cool.

[Lionel]

In >, wrote :

> In article >,
> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>
>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>> false claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over
>> the years.
>>
>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>> concealing identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any
>> ISP can be used in the same way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce J. Richman
>
> Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
> and/or paranoid.
>
> Makes you wonder, doesn't it?


No, Richman is an idiot.

Just read the explanations he has publicly given recently to Mr Atkinson's
invitation to Arnold Krueger.

[[email protected]]

wrote:
> In article >,
> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
> >
> > No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me,
this false
> > claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over
the years.
> >
> > And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
concealing
> > identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP
can be used
> > in the same way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce J. Richman
>
> Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
> and/or paranoid.
>
>

You noticed that, too, eh?
>


> Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>
>

You're in for it now, the usual Richman AutoRepeatQuack litany:
"sockpuppet"
"no verifible identity"
"delusional"


Enjoy! ;-)

[Sander deWaal]

Paul Dormer > said:

>How fast are you prepared to take her btw?


I'm merely an old fart when it comes to driving.
I'm still faster than Rudy, though :-)


>>You don't want to see what she looks like at this moment, with all
>>that salt on the roads........

>Shoulda used hammerite!


There's 50 kg of Dinitrol on the chassis.


>I'm considering this...
>http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=PHOTOS


Can't tell whether this will work..............
I don't have to polish for another 5 years or so, the paint layer is
*thick*!

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Bruce J. Richman]

Bwian McCarty tries another pseudonym:


>In article >,
> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>
>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this false
>> claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the
>years.
>>
>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for concealing
>> identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can be
>used
>> in the same way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce J. Richman
>
>Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
>and/or paranoid.
>
>Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>
>

Makes us wonder only about McCarty's use of different pseudonyms.



Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lionel lied:


>In >, wrote :
>
>> In article >,
>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>
>>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>>> false claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over
>>> the years.
>>>
>>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>>> concealing identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any
>>> ISP can be used in the same way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>
>> Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
>> and/or paranoid.
>>
>> Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>
>
>No, Richman is an idiot.
>
>Just read the explanations he has publicly given recently to Mr Atkinson's
>invitation to Arnold Krueger.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

The quite retarded Delusional French Poodle, Lionel, can't understand simple
English sentences. In his haste to suck up to Krueger and igfnore his many
accusations against Atkinson, this cretin tries to reinvent history by
asserting that both have been equally guilty. The Google record clearly shows
that Krueger has repeatedly libeled Mr. Atkinson and his publication with terms
like "snake oil", "conspiracy", etc.

Only a proven fool like Lionel thinks that his babbling with another McCarty
sockpuppet makes any sense.

LOL !!!



Bruce J. Richman

[Lionel]

In >, Bruce J. Richman wrote :

> Lionel lied:
>
>
>>In >, wrote :
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>>
>>>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>>>> false claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made
>>>> over the years.
>>>>
>>>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>>>> concealing identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about
>>>> any ISP can be used in the same way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>>
>>> Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
>>> and/or paranoid.
>>>
>>> Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>>
>>
>>No, Richman is an idiot.
>>
>>Just read the explanations he has publicly given recently to Mr Atkinson's
>>invitation to Arnold Krueger.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> The quite retarded Delusional French Poodle, Lionel, can't understand
> simple
> English sentences. In his haste to suck up to Krueger and igfnore his
> many accusations against Atkinson, this cretin tries to reinvent history
> by
> asserting that both have been equally guilty. The Google record clearly
> shows that Krueger has repeatedly libeled Mr. Atkinson and his publication
> with terms like "snake oil", "conspiracy", etc.


I agree with that.
I know that Arnold Krueger has accused several time Mr Atkinson... But this
is not my point.

*You* have recently written that Mr Atkinson has invited Arnold Krueger to
discuss about Krueger's accusations.
I have answered you that this petty and miserable point of view was equally
insulting for Krueger *and* Atkinson.

Do you confirm that you have written that ?

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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[[email protected]]

In article >,
(Bruce J. Richman) writes:
> Bwian McCarty tries another pseudonym:
>
>
>>In article >,
>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>
>>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this false
>>> claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the
>>years.
>>>
>>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for concealing
>>> identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can be
>>used
>>> in the same way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>
>>Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
>>and/or paranoid.
>>
>>Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>>
>>
>
> Makes us wonder only about McCarty's use of different pseudonyms.
>
>
>
> Bruce J. Richman

Guess again "doc", I'm just another RAO reader who can't stand your
"holier than thou" attitude. I just don't understand your need to
shout to the world that you are psychologist so that you can then
claim everyone is delusional and paranoid. You need to show your posts
to a colleague and let them diagnose your rampant paranoia.

I wonder how many times the "doc" will say paranoid or delusional in
this thread. When he finally runs out of steam we'll just have to
count them all.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Brian tries more malarkey:

>In article >,
> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>> Bwian McCarty tries another pseudonym:
>>
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>>
>>>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>false
>>>> claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the
>>>years.
>>>>
>>>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>concealing
>>>> identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can be
>>>used
>>>> in the same way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>>
>>>Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
>>>and/or paranoid.
>>>
>>>Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Makes us wonder only about McCarty's use of different pseudonyms.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce J. Richman
>
>Guess again "doc", I'm just another RAO reader who can't stand your
>"holier than thou" attitude.

Wrong. You're just one of very few RAO readers that support the smear
campaigns and chronic lying of people like McKelvy, Krueger and Lionel.



I just don't understand your need to
>shout to the world that you are psychologist so that you can then
>claim everyone is delusional and paranoid.

Obviously, that hasn't happened, and you are either lying or by definition, you
actually believe this nonsense, and therefore are delusional.

Why don't you ask your fellow liar, Krueger, about the use of the word
"delusional", since he uses it constantly in his attacks on other people.




You need to show your posts
>to a colleague and let them diagnose your rampant paranoia.

And you need to get help with your lack of reality contact - especially when it
comes to the history of personal attacks on RAO and who has been making them.

Your failure to identify yourself also suggests you're simply pinch-****ting
for one of the more deranged flame throwers referred to above.




>
>I wonder how many times the "doc" will say paranoid or delusional in
>this thread. When he finally runs out of steam we'll just have to
>count them all.
>
>

We wonder how many different pseudonyms and lacks of identity imbeciles like
this will create to sell the same message of lies and distortions all
attribuitable to very fee people.

Feel free to do word counts of Krueger's use of the words, "delusional",
"liar", "paranoid", etc. Hypocrites and deniers of reality like this coward
who hides behind a screen name seem to show up whenever the main culprits think
they're running out of mud to sling. No doubt, this cretin will try a few more
"names" under which to post.

LOL !!!



Bruce J. Richman

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tom" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com
>>>
>>>>> So what's the deal about you and the pedophile comments?
>>>>> Wh*at's your side of the story?
>>>>
>>>> I honestly can't recall making any pedophile comments. If I did, it
>>>> was just me being nasty. I don't believe it. I have no reason to
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for impugning the honesty of George Middius, Art Sackman, Marc
>>> Phillips and Jamie Benchimol.
>>>
>>
>> What the **** does this have to do with me?
>
> More support for the serial art theory. He can't remember his own posts.
>

What are you babbling about? If you have something to say, say it,
and say it in English, please.
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AutoRepeatQuack quacked:
>


>deniers of reality

>
>


Is that a fabric, Brucie?

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...

> BTW Tom, thanks for giving Roy a free pass to tell all these ridiculous
> lies about "The Tape".
>

what tape?
(been there, done that)




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[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>Perhaps this might give me an advantage in New York. People will be
>> expecting something horrific, and out will come a fairly average baritone
> voice.

Voice lessons...$145.

>just keep telling yourself that, nerd. and you're cool.

Still sounding like a complete idiot in front of an audience...priceless.

Boon

[[email protected]]

Marc Phillips wrote:
> Arny said:
>
> >Perhaps this might give me an advantage in New York. People will be
> >> expecting something horrific, and out will come a fairly average
baritone
> > voice.
>
> Voice lessons...$145.
>
> >just keep telling yourself that, nerd. and you're cool.
>
> Still sounding like a complete idiot in front of an
audience...priceless.
>
>


Looking morbidly obese and completely stupid at the RAO
Luncheon....truly priceless.
>
>

Pictures.....free, just ask.

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:

>Marc Phillips wrote:
>> Arny said:
>>
>> >Perhaps this might give me an advantage in New York. People will be
>> >> expecting something horrific, and out will come a fairly average
>baritone
>> > voice.
>>
>> Voice lessons...$145.
>>
>> >just keep telling yourself that, nerd. and you're cool.
>>
>> Still sounding like a complete idiot in front of an
>audience...priceless.
>>
>>
>
>
>Looking morbidly obese and completely stupid at the RAO
>Luncheon....truly priceless.
>>
>>
>
>Pictures.....free, just ask.

Yes, we all know the only thing you can do well...post a single picture over
and over. I'm sure your parents are proud of you, Internet geek.

Boon

[[email protected]]

In article >,
(Bruce J. Richman) writes:
> Brian tries more malarkey:
>
>>In article >,
>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>> Bwian McCarty tries another pseudonym:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>>false
>>>>> claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the
>>>>years.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>>concealing
>>>>> identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can be
>>>>used
>>>>> in the same way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>>>
>>>>Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
>>>>and/or paranoid.
>>>>
>>>>Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Makes us wonder only about McCarty's use of different pseudonyms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>
>>Guess again "doc", I'm just another RAO reader who can't stand your
>>"holier than thou" attitude.
>
> Wrong. You're just one of very few RAO readers that support the smear
> campaigns and chronic lying of people like McKelvy, Krueger and Lionel.
>
>
>
> I just don't understand your need to
>>shout to the world that you are psychologist so that you can then
>>claim everyone is delusional and paranoid.
>
> Obviously, that hasn't happened, and you are either lying or by definition, you
> actually believe this nonsense, and therefore are delusional.
>
> Why don't you ask your fellow liar, Krueger, about the use of the word
> "delusional", since he uses it constantly in his attacks on other people.
>
>
>
>
> You need to show your posts
>>to a colleague and let them diagnose your rampant paranoia.
>
> And you need to get help with your lack of reality contact - especially when it
> comes to the history of personal attacks on RAO and who has been making them.

Tit for tat is never a valid excuse, especially for a supposed
professional. And you constantly demonstrate the you have a very poor
grasp of reality or you'd recognize your extreme hypocrisy.

> Your failure to identify yourself also suggests you're simply pinch-****ting
> for one of the more deranged flame throwers referred to above.

Nope, wrong again "doc".

>>I wonder how many times the "doc" will say paranoid or delusional in
>>this thread. When he finally runs out of steam we'll just have to
>>count them all.
>>
>>
>
> We wonder how many different pseudonyms and lacks of identity imbeciles like
> this will create to sell the same message of lies and distortions all
> attribuitable to very fee people.

What are "fee" people?

> Feel free to do word counts of Krueger's use of the words, "delusional",
> "liar", "paranoid", etc. Hypocrites and deniers of reality like this coward
> who hides behind a screen name seem to show up whenever the main culprits think
> they're running out of mud to sling. No doubt, this cretin will try a few more
> "names" under which to post.
>
> LOL !!!

Can't post without using "delusional" or "paranoid" can you "doc"?
And no one on RAO is the perfect definition of hypocrite like you
"doc". Your paranoia and hypocrisy just proves that you are either
lying about being a psychologist or are an extremely poor example of
the profession.


>
>
> Bruce J. Richman
>
>
>

[Michael Conzo]

In article , " > wrote:

> Can't post without using "delusional" or "paranoid" can you "doc"?
> And no one on RAO is the perfect definition of hypocrite like you
> "doc". Your paranoia and hypocrisy just proves that you are either
> lying about being a psychologist or are an extremely poor example of
> the profession.

Exactly my point. That's why I come down on the side of those who believe
Richman isn't a real psychologist. A real one would live in fear of these
posts being sent to some professional organisation. I wouldn't think any
licencing body would approve of such unprofessional conduct.

[[email protected]]

Marc "Fat'n'Ugly" Phillips asks for more:
>
> >Marc Phillips wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Voice lessons...$145.
> >>
> >>
> >> Still sounding like a complete idiot in front of an
> >audience...priceless.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Looking morbidly obese and completely stupid at the RAO
> >Luncheon....truly priceless.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Pictures.....free, just ask.
>
> Yes, we all know the only thing you can do well...post a single
picture over
> and over.
>
>

You forgot to mention that I can also tell the difference between the
internet and Usenet, dimbulb. You have amply demonstated that *you*
can't make that distinction.
>

Marc "Fat'n'Ugly" Phillips: an unmatched combination of ignorance and
arrogance! :-(

[Bruce J. Richman]

An anonymous liar wrote:


>In article >,
> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>> Brian tries more malarkey:
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>> Bwian McCarty tries another pseudonym:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>>>false
>>>>>> claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the
>>>>>years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>>>concealing
>>>>>> identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can
>be
>>>>>used
>>>>>> in the same way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>>>>

(Totally meaningless and false repetition of false claims snipped).

The gutless liar posting as "123" has no evidence and no credibility, so it's
highly doubtful that anybody other than a Brian McCarry sockpuppet named
Michael Conzo will give his propaganda any credibility.

(The possible exception to this would be proven liars and libelers like
Kreuger, McKelvy and Lionel who have never met a lie they couldn't fully
embrace and spread).


Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

>From: Michael Conzo
>Date: 2/4/2005 12:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>In article , " > wrote:
>


Brian McCarty's sockpuppet wrote:

(Idiotic falsehoods snipped since Brian has no credibility and is widely known
for unning various Internet scams and smear campaigns against numerous RAM
merchants as well as various RAO posters). Brian once claimed he had called
the Florida Department of Medicine to check me out. Of course, this call never
took place, and he has never provided any evidence to support his idiotic false
claims.

What we have here, folks, is one sockpuppet and proven liar simply supporting
and imitating another. No wonder they are both afraid to post under their real
names.

LOL !!!



Bruce J. Richman

[Lionel]

a écrit :
> In article >,
> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>
>>Brian tries more malarkey:
>>
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>
>>>>Bwian McCarty tries another pseudonym:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>>>
>>>false
>>>
>>>>>>claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the
>>>>>
>>>>>years.
>>>>>
>>>>>>And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>>>
>>>concealing
>>>
>>>>>>identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can be
>>>>>
>>>>>used
>>>>>
>>>>>>in the same way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bruce J. Richman
>>>>>
>>>>>Funny how everyone who Bruce dislikes or disagrees with is delusional
>>>>>and/or paranoid.
>>>>>
>>>>>Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Makes us wonder only about McCarty's use of different pseudonyms.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bruce J. Richman
>>>
>>>Guess again "doc", I'm just another RAO reader who can't stand your
>>>"holier than thou" attitude.
>>
>>Wrong. You're just one of very few RAO readers that support the smear
>>campaigns and chronic lying of people like McKelvy, Krueger and Lionel.
>>
>>
>>
>>I just don't understand your need to
>>
>>>shout to the world that you are psychologist so that you can then
>>>claim everyone is delusional and paranoid.
>>
>>Obviously, that hasn't happened, and you are either lying or by definition, you
>>actually believe this nonsense, and therefore are delusional.
>>
>>Why don't you ask your fellow liar, Krueger, about the use of the word
>>"delusional", since he uses it constantly in his attacks on other people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You need to show your posts
>>
>>>to a colleague and let them diagnose your rampant paranoia.
>>
>>And you need to get help with your lack of reality contact - especially when it
>>comes to the history of personal attacks on RAO and who has been making them.
>
>
> Tit for tat is never a valid excuse, especially for a supposed
> professional. And you constantly demonstrate the you have a very poor
> grasp of reality or you'd recognize your extreme hypocrisy.
>
>
>>Your failure to identify yourself also suggests you're simply pinch-****ting
>>for one of the more deranged flame throwers referred to above.
>
>
> Nope, wrong again "doc".
>
>
>>>I wonder how many times the "doc" will say paranoid or delusional in
>>>this thread. When he finally runs out of steam we'll just have to
>>>count them all.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>We wonder how many different pseudonyms and lacks of identity imbeciles like
>>this will create to sell the same message of lies and distortions all
>>attribuitable to very fee people.
>
>
> What are "fee" people?
>
>
>>Feel free to do word counts of Krueger's use of the words, "delusional",
>>"liar", "paranoid", etc. Hypocrites and deniers of reality like this coward
>>who hides behind a screen name seem to show up whenever the main culprits think
>>they're running out of mud to sling. No doubt, this cretin will try a few more
>>"names" under which to post.
>>
>>LOL !!!
>
>
> Can't post without using "delusional" or "paranoid" can you "doc"?


Yes he can. Blank post... ;-)


> And no one on RAO is the perfect definition of hypocrite like you
> "doc". Your paranoia and hypocrisy just proves that you are either
> lying about being a psychologist or are an extremely poor example of
> the profession.

Welcome to our club 123, I urge 456 and 789 to join us immediatly. :-)

[Lionel]

Michael Conzo a écrit :
> In article , " > wrote:
>
>
>>Can't post without using "delusional" or "paranoid" can you "doc"?
>>And no one on RAO is the perfect definition of hypocrite like you
>>"doc". Your paranoia and hypocrisy just proves that you are either
>>lying about being a psychologist or are an extremely poor example of
>>the profession.
>
>
> Exactly my point. That's why I come down on the side of those who believe
> Richman isn't a real psychologist. A real one would live in fear of these
> posts being sent to some professional organisation. I wouldn't think any
> licencing body would approve of such unprofessional conduct.

I think that Bruce is retired now.
This explains why this *coward* use RAO as an exutory to his cumulated
hatred.
Anyway he is so full of fears that it is very funny to play with him...


....Please don't kill him too quickly.

:-D

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:

>Marc "Fat'n'Ugly" Phillips asks for more:
>>
>> >Marc Phillips wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Voice lessons...$145.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Still sounding like a complete idiot in front of an
>> >audience...priceless.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Looking morbidly obese and completely stupid at the RAO
>> >Luncheon....truly priceless.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Pictures.....free, just ask.
>>
>> Yes, we all know the only thing you can do well...post a single
>picture over
>> and over.
>>
>>
>
>You forgot to mention that I can also tell the difference between the
>internet and Usenet, dimbulb.


Why would I mention that? What does that have to do with anything?

You have amply demonstated that *you*
>can't make that distinction.

No, I haven't.

>Marc "Fat'n'Ugly" Phillips: an unmatched combination of ignorance and
>arrogance! :-(

You really have nothing to say, do you.

Boon

[[email protected]]

In article >,
(Bruce J. Richman) writes:
> An anonymous liar wrote:
>
>
>>In article >,
>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>> Brian tries more malarkey:
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>>> Bwian McCarty tries another pseudonym:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>> (Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it is not, but since you' have a history of lying about me, this
>>>>false
>>>>>>> claim is just another delusional assertion of many you've made over the
>>>>>>years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Krueger's rather paranoid claims about AOL as a shield for
>>>>concealing
>>>>>>> identities conveniently overlooks the fact that just about any ISP can
>>be
>>>>>>used
>>>>>>> in the same way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce J. Richman
>>>>>>
>
> (Totally meaningless and false repetition of false claims snipped).
>
> The gutless liar posting as "123" has no evidence and no credibility, so it's
> highly doubtful that anybody other than a Brian McCarry sockpuppet named
> Michael Conzo will give his propaganda any credibility.
>
> (The possible exception to this would be proven liars and libelers like
> Kreuger, McKelvy and Lionel who have never met a lie they couldn't fully
> embrace and spread).
>
>
> Bruce J. Richman

Can't deny the post so you just clip it. What a maroon! And what a
hypocrite.

LOL!

[[email protected]]

In article >,
(Bruce J. Richman) writes:
>>From: Michael Conzo
>>Date: 2/4/2005 12:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>In article , " > wrote:
>>
>
>
> Brian McCarty's sockpuppet wrote:
>
> (Idiotic falsehoods snipped since Brian has no credibility and is widely known
> for unning various Internet scams and smear campaigns against numerous RAM
> merchants as well as various RAO posters). Brian once claimed he had called
> the Florida Department of Medicine to check me out. Of course, this call never
> took place, and he has never provided any evidence to support his idiotic false
> claims.
>
> What we have here, folks, is one sockpuppet and proven liar simply supporting
> and imitating another. No wonder they are both afraid to post under their real
> names.
>
> LOL !!!
>
>
>
> Bruce J. Richman

Can't deny the truth, so you just clip it instead. What a thoroughly
unprofessional hypocrite. You must be impersonating Bruce because a
real psycholgist would never stoop to the level you do every day.

LOL yourself!

[Sander deWaal]

Paul Dormer > said:

>>I'm merely an old fart when it comes to driving.

>But you return to normal age when out of the car?? ;-)


Oh dear. I drive an automatic,remember? ;-)

When I get out of bed, I feel like 84.
Tomorrow, I'll turn 39.


>I'm just getting into left-foot breaking (that'll be right-foot, for
>you). Great on corners!


Right-foot breaking? Never done it otherwise .
In corners, one's supposed to step on the accelerator pedal. ;-)

Now do heel'n'toe !

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Bruce J. Richman]

Paul Dormer wrote:


>"Sander deWaal" emitted :
>
>>>>I'm merely an old fart when it comes to driving.
>>
>>>But you return to normal age when out of the car?? ;-)
>>
>>
>>Oh dear. I drive an automatic,remember? ;-)
>
>Transmission type should have been somewhere on your checklist. It's
>easy thing to overlook..
>
>>When I get out of bed, I feel like 84.
>>Tomorrow, I'll turn 39.
>
>Really?? Happy birthday Sander!! You old coot... :-)
>
>>>I'm just getting into left-foot breaking (that'll be right-foot, for
>>>you). Great on corners!
>>
>>
>>Right-foot breaking? Never done it otherwise .
>
>Don't they reverse the pedals for driving on the right side of the
>road then? I was expecting the gear knob to be on the roof too.
>
>>In corners, one's supposed to step on the accelerator pedal. ;-)
>
>If you brake at the right time (whilst simultaneously accelerating)
>you can go faster.
>
>>Now do heel'n'toe !
>
>I've done the trick of tangling my shoe laces around the foot controls
>before, with the speed steadily climbing... will that do ya?
>
>
>S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
>-----------------------------------
>It's Grim down south..
>
>

Back before cruise control was commonly available, we used to use different
rocks on the gas pedal for different constant speeds. If I got pulled over
for speeding, I told the police officer, that he was wrong because I was using
a smaller rock. :)



Bruce J. Richman

[Sander deWaal]

Paul Dormer > said:

>>Oh dear. I drive an automatic,remember? ;-)

>Transmission type should have been somewhere on your checklist. It's
>easy thing to overlook..


Not me. I like it, with our 24/7 traffic jams.
Never want to shift gears manually again!

To borrow a phrase: "I'm basically a lazy person".


>>Tomorrow, I'll turn 39.

>Really?? Happy birthday Sander!! You old coot... :-)


Thanks, I guess.
I'm hoping Wilma gets me that vandenHul Grasshopper cart I've been
nodding her about............


>>>I'm just getting into left-foot breaking (that'll be right-foot, for
>>>you). Great on corners!

>>Right-foot breaking? Never done it otherwise .


Only broke my right foot, note.


>Don't they reverse the pedals for driving on the right side of the
>road then? I was expecting the gear knob to be on the roof too.


With Citroens, you might actually get what you wish for ;-)
But no, AFAIK the pedal sequence is the same.

Gear knobs are for those not appreciating the nicer things in life.
In short, barbarians.


>>In corners, one's supposed to step on the accelerator pedal. ;-)

>If you brake at the right time (whilst simultaneously accelerating)
>you can go faster.


I already tried warp 5. Boring. Plus it got me back to the Middle
Ages. Had to live like a hermit until 1966 to not blow my cover.


>>Now do heel'n'toe !

>I've done the trick of tangling my shoe laces around the foot controls
>before, with the speed steadily climbing... will that do ya?


Ever tried to control your car with your 90" dick? ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Clyde Slick]

"Bruce J. Richman" > wrote in message
...

>
> Back before cruise control was commonly available, we used to use
> different
> rocks on the gas pedal for different constant speeds. If I got pulled
> over
> for speeding, I told the police officer, that he was wrong because I was
> using
> a smaller rock. :)
>

I am sure he must have searched your car for that rock.



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[Sander deWaal]

Paul Dormer > said:

>>With Citroens, you might actually get what you wish for ;-)

>Is that because you have to rebuild the car within the first few
>months of it's lifetime? Build quality *is* paramount with Citroen.


I know every part of my CX by heart.
In the 6-odd years it is in my posession, every part, or a replacement
for it, has gone through my hands ;-)


>>Ever tried to control your car with your 90" dick? ;-)

>Prove that I have a 90' dick, deeWeiL.


Dromer its in the, goggle record's Morder.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "