Did someone already test that ?

[Lionel]

http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html

The blurb suggests using upgraded cable.
So, the cable will cost more than the amp.
What do you say about a $39 amp with $1,000 interconnects?

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>
> The blurb suggests using upgraded cable.
> So, the cable will cost more than the amp.
> What do you say about a $39 amp with $1,000 interconnects?

Something that you'd recommend Art, if that $39 included a tube?

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:

>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>
> The blurb suggests using upgraded cable.
> So, the cable will cost more than the amp.
> What do you say about a $39 amp with $1,000 interconnects?

I say that :
- You don't answer to the question
- You are the only one idiot here who imagine to purchase $1,000
interconnects.
- You don't give any interesting information.

To summerize, one more time you are the caricature of what you use to mock.

:-)

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>>
>> The blurb suggests using upgraded cable.
>> So, the cable will cost more than the amp.
>> What do you say about a $39 amp with $1,000 interconnects?
>
> Something that you'd recommend Art, if that $39 included a tube?

Not likely, unless it was a Marantz 7C for $39 ina thrift shop.
Of course, no way on those $1,000 interconnects, I would
spend the money on better equipment

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>>
>> The blurb suggests using upgraded cable.
>> So, the cable will cost more than the amp.
>> What do you say about a $39 amp with $1,000 interconnects?
>
> I say that :
> - You don't answer to the question
> - You are the only one idiot here who imagine to purchase $1,000
> interconnects.
> - You don't give any interesting information.
>
> To summerize, one more time you are the caricature of what you use to
> mock.
>
> :-)

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>
>>
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>>
>> The blurb suggests using upgraded cable.
>> So, the cable will cost more than the amp.
>> What do you say about a $39 amp with $1,000 interconnects?
>
> I say that :
> - You don't answer to the question
> - You are the only one idiot here who imagine to purchase $1,000
> interconnects.
> - You don't give any interesting information.
>
> To summerize, one more time you are the caricature of what you use to
> mock.
>

I don't see a question. You didn't ask one.
Stop babbling.

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:

>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Clyde Slick wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>>>
>>> The blurb suggests using upgraded cable.
>>> So, the cable will cost more than the amp.
>>> What do you say about a $39 amp with $1,000 interconnects?
>>
>> I say that :
>> - You don't answer to the question
>> - You are the only one idiot here who imagine to purchase $1,000
>> interconnects.
>> - You don't give any interesting information.
>>
>> To summerize, one more time you are the caricature of what you use to
>> mock.
>>
>
> I don't see a question. You didn't ask one.

"Re: Did someone already test that ?"

When I say that you are a caricature, you are the daily proof that ridicule
doesn't kill. ;-)

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:

Hey Sackman if $30 it's too cheap you still can go to a jewelry and ask for
a golden case. Idiot.

An other guy here who seems to appreciate :
http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t_3.html

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>
> Hey Sackman if $30 it's too cheap you still can go to a jewelry and ask
> for
> a golden case. Idiot.
>
> An other guy here who seems to appreciate :
> http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t_3.html

I finally came to realize you are actually serious avout that amp.
I thought you were kidding.

[Lionel]

Paul Dormer wrote:

> "Lionel" emitted :
>
>>http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>
> For $30 a pop I'll give it a shot... if I can find a source that will
> mail to the UK.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-952
Stocks are out in US. You will have to wait till february.
Note that it will cost you EUR 30.00 including delivery and VAT in London...
Considering the ration of transportation costs I will purchase 2 pieces for
bi-amping purpose. ;-)

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:


> I thought you were kidding.

You are slow and dense, it's not my fault.

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:

> I finally came to realize you are actually serious avout that amp.
> I thought you were kidding.

Ooops, I don't believe you...
You are "interested" now because, few posts ago, Paul dormer has said that
*he* is interested.
What a lack of personality, not surprised that you are Middius toy. ;-)

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>
>> I finally came to realize you are actually serious avout that amp.
>> I thought you were kidding.
>
> Ooops, I don't believe you...
> You are "interested" now because, few posts ago, Paul dormer has said that
> *he* is interested.

I am not interested. Never said I was.

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Paul Dormer wrote:
>
> > "Lionel" emitted :
> >
> >>http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
> >
> > For $30 a pop I'll give it a shot... if I can find a source that will
> > mail to the UK.
>
> http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-952
> Stocks are out in US. You will have to wait till february.
> Note that it will cost you EUR 30.00 including delivery and VAT in
London...
> Considering the ration of transportation costs I will purchase 2 pieces
for
> bi-amping purpose. ;-)
>
Just because of one guy's report, which could have been interpreted as
"tinny and boomy."
It is well known that novelty and appearance influence the perception of
functionality.
This is like the dog that plays chess - amazing, considering it's a dog.

Class D amplifiers have been around for a decade. So have amplifier chips,
of which Sanken is the most visible manufacturer.
I have heard a pretty decent Sanken based amplifier, enclosed in a metal
chassis with a large power supply.
If the same chip had been enclosed in an insubstantial plastic box, I might
have thought, "boy, this piece of crap sounds remarkably good."
So here is a chip in a box, powered by a non-proprietary battery holder, and
you guys fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

When the manufacturers get wind of this, the next audio trend will be
putting fair-to-middling components in crappy plastic boxes.
We'll eat it all up.

They learn fast.

[Schizoid Man]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> I say that :
>> - You don't answer to the question
>> - You are the only one idiot here who imagine to purchase $1,000
>> interconnects.
>> - You don't give any interesting information.
>>
>> To summerize, one more time you are the caricature of what you use to
>> mock.
>
> I don't see a question. You didn't ask one.
> Stop babbling.

Try looking in the subject, mate.

[Lionel]

Robert Morein wrote:

>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Paul Dormer wrote:
>>
>> > "Lionel" emitted :
>> >
>> >>http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>> >
>> > For $30 a pop I'll give it a shot... if I can find a source that will
>> > mail to the UK.
>>
>> http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-952
>> Stocks are out in US. You will have to wait till february.
>> Note that it will cost you EUR 30.00 including delivery and VAT in
> London...
>> Considering the ration of transportation costs I will purchase 2 pieces
> for
>> bi-amping purpose. ;-)
>>
> Just because of one guy's report, which could have been interpreted as
> "tinny and boomy."

I have posted 2 reviews, Bob. Have you read both ?

> It is well known that novelty and appearance influence the perception of
> functionality.
> This is like the dog that plays chess - amazing, considering it's a dog.

Yes Bob, but according to a Middiusian's perception of life it is the
revenge of the prole... The International of the "bad taste" like the wine
from Corbieres. ;-)
I can *purchase* it and *test* it now and decide if it sounds like crap or
not... Not like Shakti stones

> Class D amplifiers have been around for a decade. So have amplifier chips,
> of which Sanken is the most visible manufacturer.

I understood that it is a new chip.

> I have heard a pretty decent Sanken based amplifier, enclosed in a metal
> chassis with a large power supply.
> If the same chip had been enclosed in an insubstantial plastic box, I
> might have thought, "boy, this piece of crap sounds remarkably good."
> So here is a chip in a box, powered by a non-proprietary battery holder,
> and you guys fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

For the moment "we" fall for nothing, Bob. This is the *only* point I
disagree with your comment.
Maximum it will cost me $30.00 far less than a one hour "aperitif" with 2
pals in my prefered bar...
The result doesn't fit the review ? Well, no problem, everybody need a
"small" system in a small room. Why not in the toilet with my Encyclopaedia
Universalis ?
Months ago you have explained me that one of your hobby is to play with
electronical "low priced" gadgets, don't you remember ? This is excatly
what I propose you to do here.

Far from me the idea to bring the revolution in your listening rooms !
Are you agree now ?

> When the manufacturers get wind of this, the next audio trend will be
> putting fair-to-middling components in crappy plastic boxes.
> We'll eat it all up.
>
> They learn fast.

People who love nice thing to !!! ;-)
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ampbox/page2.html

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Robert Morein wrote:
>
> >
> > "Lionel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Paul Dormer wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Lionel" emitted :
> >> >
> >> >>http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
> >> >
> >> > For $30 a pop I'll give it a shot... if I can find a source that will
> >> > mail to the UK.
> >>
> >> http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-952
> >> Stocks are out in US. You will have to wait till february.
> >> Note that it will cost you EUR 30.00 including delivery and VAT in
> > London...
> >> Considering the ration of transportation costs I will purchase 2 pieces
> > for
> >> bi-amping purpose. ;-)
> >>
> > Just because of one guy's report, which could have been interpreted as
> > "tinny and boomy."
>
> I have posted 2 reviews, Bob. Have you read both ?
>
> > It is well known that novelty and appearance influence the perception of
> > functionality.
> > This is like the dog that plays chess - amazing, considering it's a dog.
>
> Yes Bob, but according to a Middiusian's perception of life it is the
> revenge of the prole... The International of the "bad taste" like the wine
> from Corbieres. ;-)
> I can *purchase* it and *test* it now and decide if it sounds like crap or
> not... Not like Shakti stones
>
> > Class D amplifiers have been around for a decade. So have amplifier
chips,
> > of which Sanken is the most visible manufacturer.
>
> I understood that it is a new chip.
>
> > I have heard a pretty decent Sanken based amplifier, enclosed in a metal
> > chassis with a large power supply.
> > If the same chip had been enclosed in an insubstantial plastic box, I
> > might have thought, "boy, this piece of crap sounds remarkably good."
> > So here is a chip in a box, powered by a non-proprietary battery holder,
> > and you guys fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
>
> For the moment "we" fall for nothing, Bob. This is the *only* point I
> disagree with your comment.
> Maximum it will cost me $30.00 far less than a one hour "aperitif" with 2
> pals in my prefered bar...
> The result doesn't fit the review ? Well, no problem, everybody need a
> "small" system in a small room. Why not in the toilet with my
Encyclopaedia
> Universalis ?
> Months ago you have explained me that one of your hobby is to play with
> electronical "low priced" gadgets, don't you remember ? This is excatly
> what I propose you to do here.
>
> Far from me the idea to bring the revolution in your listening rooms !
> Are you agree now ?
>
> > When the manufacturers get wind of this, the next audio trend will be
> > putting fair-to-middling components in crappy plastic boxes.
> > We'll eat it all up.
> >
> > They learn fast.
>
> People who love nice thing to !!! ;-)
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ampbox/page2.html

Lionel,
I was just being unusually antagonistic.
You have an encyclopedia in the toilet? That is interesting.
Have fun.

[Lionel]

Robert Morein wrote:


> Lionel,
> I was just being unusually antagonistic.

It's your right, no problem for me. :-)

> You have an encyclopedia in the toilet? That is interesting.
> Have fun.

Where to find the time and the calm to read an encyclopedia if not in the
toilet. ;-)

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Robert Morein wrote:
>
>
> > Lionel,
> > I was just being unusually antagonistic.
>
> It's your right, no problem for me. :-)
>
> > You have an encyclopedia in the toilet? That is interesting.
> > Have fun.
>
> Where to find the time and the calm to read an encyclopedia if not in the
> toilet. ;-)
>
I wasn't sure that was the reason.
Does it have all the pages ? :)

[Clyde Slick]

"Paul Dormer" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" emitted :
>
>>> Hey Sackman if $30 it's too cheap you still can go to a jewelry and ask
>>> for
>>> a golden case. Idiot.
>>>
>>> An other guy here who seems to appreciate :
>>> http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t_3.html
>>
>>I finally came to realize you are actually serious avout that amp.
>>I thought you were kidding.
>
> Why not be serious about it?
>

Parts quality.

[Lionel]

Robert Morein wrote:

>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Robert Morein wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Lionel,
>> > I was just being unusually antagonistic.
>>
>> It's your right, no problem for me. :-)
>>
>> > You have an encyclopedia in the toilet? That is interesting.
>> > Have fun.
>>
>> Where to find the time and the calm to read an encyclopedia if not in the
>> toilet. ;-)
>>
> I wasn't sure that was the reason.
> Does it have all the pages ? :)

Henri Jeanson (a french writer) answering to a very caustic critic :
"I'm sorry Sir, I've read your article this morning with an inattentive ass"

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:

>
> "Paul Dormer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Clyde Slick" emitted :
>>
>>>> Hey Sackman if $30 it's too cheap you still can go to a jewelry and ask
>>>> for
>>>> a golden case. Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> An other guy here who seems to appreciate :
>>>> http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t_3.html
>>>
>>>I finally came to realize you are actually serious avout that amp.
>>>I thought you were kidding.
>>
>> Why not be serious about it?
>>
>
> Parts quality.

LOL !

[Lionel]

Paul Dormer wrote:

> "Lionel" emitted :
>
>>Paul Dormer wrote:
>>
>>> "Lionel" emitted :
>>>
>>>>http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>>>
>>> For $30 a pop I'll give it a shot... if I can find a source that will
>>> mail to the UK.
>>
>>http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-952
>>Stocks are out in US. You will have to wait till february.
>
> Boo!!
>
>>Note that it will cost you EUR 30.00 including delivery and VAT in
>>London... Considering the ration of transportation costs I will purchase 2
>>pieces for bi-amping purpose. ;-)
>
> Good idea. You would do that with a preamp or no?

Yes.

[Sander deWaal]

Lionel > said:

>http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html

That's an interesting technology.
I saw Tripath has also more powerful versions available.
Since the guys at TNT-audio are usually a bit conservative, so when
they tave about a thing like this, it has to have some merit .

SET-killer, anyone? ;-)

I think I'll order some of the higher power chips and play with them a
bit.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

Lionel > said:

>The result doesn't fit the review ? Well, no problem, everybody need a
>"small" system in a small room. Why not in the toilet with my Encyclopaedia
>Universalis ?

Stop it, you'll make Ferstler drool!

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[MINe 109]

In article >,
Sander deWaal > wrote:

> Lionel > said:
>
> >http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>
> That's an interesting technology.
> I saw Tripath has also more powerful versions available.
> Since the guys at TNT-audio are usually a bit conservative, so when
> they tave about a thing like this, it has to have some merit .
>
> SET-killer, anyone? ;-)
>
> I think I'll order some of the higher power chips and play with them a
> bit.

How does the technology compare to the Gaincard we talked about last
year?

Stephen

[Sander deWaal]

MINe 109 > said:

>> >http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html

>> That's an interesting technology.
>> I saw Tripath has also more powerful versions available.
>> Since the guys at TNT-audio are usually a bit conservative, so when
>> they rave about a thing like this, it has to have some merit .

>> SET-killer, anyone? ;-)

>> I think I'll order some of the higher power chips and play with them a
>> bit.

>How does the technology compare to the Gaincard we talked about last
>year?

The Gaincard/Gainclone is just a power opamp, this thing is some kind
of switching amplifier (class D, or class "T" , as Tripath calls it).

Different way of processing a signal.
I'll have to read the datasheets more carefully for details.

I can imagine a bunch of Oscons and air-core chokes around it ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Sander deWaal]

Paul Dormer > said:

>I'm going to wait until I've heard it before passing judgement.

Hey Dormer, your amp is already inthe mail!
Just send me that Arcam FMJ-23 and I'll never talk about it again.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

"Paul Dormer" > wrote in message

> "Sander deWaal" emitted :
>
>>> http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t-amp_e.html
>>
>> That's an interesting technology.
>> I saw Tripath has also more powerful versions available.
>> Since the guys at TNT-audio are usually a bit conservative, so when
>> they tave about a thing like this, it has to have some merit .
>>
>> SET-killer, anyone? ;-)
>
> "This cheap-o hunk of plastic sounds better than my $900 single-ended
> tube amp. No joke." ;-)

Nothing like setting the bar really low, eh?

[JBorg]

> Lionel" > wrote
>> Robert Morein wrote:
>>> "Lionel" > wrote
>>> > Robert Morein wrote:
>
>
>
>>> > Lionel,
>>> > I was just being unusually antagonistic.
>>>
>>> It's your right, no problem for me. :-)
>>>
>>> > You have an encyclopedia in the toilet? That is interesting.
>>> > Have fun.
>>>
>>> Where to find the time and the calm to read an encyclopedia if not in the
>>> toilet. ;-)
>>>
>> I wasn't sure that was the reason.
>> Does it have all the pages ? :)
>
> Henri Jeanson (a french writer) answering to a very caustic critic :
> "I'm sorry Sir, I've read your article this morning with an inattentive ass"



There goes another page. I recommend the
The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound.

[JBorg]

> Lionel" > wrote
>> Robert Morein wrote:
>>> "Lionel" > wrote
>>> > Robert Morein wrote:
>
>
>
>>> > Lionel,
>>> > I was just being unusually antagonistic.
>>>
>>> It's your right, no problem for me. :-)
>>>
>>> > You have an encyclopedia in the toilet? That is interesting.
>>> > Have fun.
>>>
>>> Where to find the time and the calm to read an encyclopedia if not in the
>>> toilet. ;-)
>>>
>> I wasn't sure that was the reason.
>> Does it have all the pages ? :)
>
> Henri Jeanson (a french writer) answering to a very caustic critic :
> "I'm sorry Sir, I've read your article this morning with an inattentive ass"



There goes another page. I recommend the
The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound.

[Robert Morein]

"JBorg" > wrote in message
m...
>
> > Lionel" > wrote
> >> Robert Morein wrote:
> >>> "Lionel" > wrote
> >>> > Robert Morein wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>> > Lionel,
> >>> > I was just being unusually antagonistic.
> >>>
> >>> It's your right, no problem for me. :-)
> >>>
> >>> > You have an encyclopedia in the toilet? That is interesting.
> >>> > Have fun.
> >>>
> >>> Where to find the time and the calm to read an encyclopedia if not in
the
> >>> toilet. ;-)
> >>>
> >> I wasn't sure that was the reason.
> >> Does it have all the pages ? :)
> >
> > Henri Jeanson (a french writer) answering to a very caustic critic :
> > "I'm sorry Sir, I've read your article this morning with an inattentive
ass"
>
>
>
> There goes another page. I recommend the
> The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound.
>
I've tried it. The paper doesn't hold together.