Reverb suggestions

[Willie K.Yee, M.D.]

I am thinking of getting an outboard reverb, now that I have moved up
to a Akai DPS-24 DAW. The reverbs on this desk are one of its weak
points. Maybe I have just not figured out how to use them, but my
problem with them is that they sound kinda weak. Buy the time I turn
them up so I can really hear them, they are overblown and artificial.
Below that they seem to only muddy up the sound a bit.

I mainly record jazz, from solo guitar in my home studio, to small
groups live in bad rooms, to a big band in various settings. Most
stuff gets mic'd from varying distances depending on the situation,
which, esp. live, I sometimes do not have much control over.

I am looking for natural sounding reverbs, not echo-ey effects.

I have been using an Alesis Nanoverb up till now, and I can work with
it for some stuff, but it is still not quite natural.

I am looking for a stereo reverb in the $400 range. Used OK. A digital
I/O would be nice, but not essential. I am willing to play with lots
of parameters, but a couple good sounds that work would be fine.

Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee
Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com
Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band http://www.bigbluebigband.org

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

You can possibly find a better price, but this (originally $1099) Sony R-7
unit is one of my faves... wouldn't hesitate to recommend it anywhere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23790&item=3747374983&rd=1


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http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
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"Willie K.Yee, M.D." > wrote in message ...
> I am thinking of getting an outboard reverb, now that I have moved up
> to a Akai DPS-24 DAW. The reverbs on this desk are one of its weak
> points. Maybe I have just not figured out how to use them, but my
> problem with them is that they sound kinda weak. Buy the time I turn
> them up so I can really hear them, they are overblown and artificial.
> Below that they seem to only muddy up the sound a bit.
>
> I mainly record jazz, from solo guitar in my home studio, to small
> groups live in bad rooms, to a big band in various settings. Most
> stuff gets mic'd from varying distances depending on the situation,
> which, esp. live, I sometimes do not have much control over.
>
> I am looking for natural sounding reverbs, not echo-ey effects.
>
> I have been using an Alesis Nanoverb up till now, and I can work with
> it for some stuff, but it is still not quite natural.
>
> I am looking for a stereo reverb in the $400 range. Used OK. A digital
> I/O would be nice, but not essential. I am willing to play with lots
> of parameters, but a couple good sounds that work would be fine.
>
> Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee
> Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com
> Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band http://www.bigbluebigband.org
>

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"David Morgan (MAMS)" > wrote in message...

> You can possibly find a better price, but this (originally $1099) Sony R-7
> unit is one of my faves... wouldn't hesitate to recommend it anywhere.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23790&item=3747374983&rd=1


Here's another, without the same seller reputation or guarantee...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23790&item=3746443270&rd=1

[Scott Dorsey]

David Morgan \(MAMS\) > wrote:
>You can possibly find a better price, but this (originally $1099) Sony R-7
>unit is one of my faves... wouldn't hesitate to recommend it anywhere.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23790&item=3747374983&rd=1

And, I will say that the Sony DPS-V77 is a newer and somewhat better-sounding
version of the same thing, and is absolutely worth grabbing. I see them going
for around $1k used, though, so there is still a good demand for them.

But either one of the Sony units is something you will keep for a long time,
and something you can probably sell for what you paid for it after a decade.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Douglas Moran]

In article >,
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> And, I will say that the Sony DPS-V77 is a newer and somewhat better-sounding
> version of the same thing, and is absolutely worth grabbing. I see them
> going
> for around $1k used, though, so there is still a good demand for them.
>
> But either one of the Sony units is something you will keep for a long time,
> and something you can probably sell for what you paid for it after a decade.
> --scott

I have a DPS-V77 here, bought on Scott's recommendation. GREAT unit.
I've seen some go on ebay recently for $550 - 700.

Doug

[Luke Kaven]

Willie,

I like Voxengo Pristine Space in software as a great-sounding
convolution reverb. It's a great deal, and it works very well--I
don't use anything else anymore. I have a couple of natural
impulse-response waves that I like, one from a wood room that really
sounds good on a jazz recording. I'll be glad to set you up with it
if you need it.

Luke

(Willie K.Yee, M.D.) wrote:

>I am thinking of getting an outboard reverb, now that I have moved up
>to a Akai DPS-24 DAW. The reverbs on this desk are one of its weak
>points. Maybe I have just not figured out how to use them, but my
>problem with them is that they sound kinda weak. Buy the time I turn
>them up so I can really hear them, they are overblown and artificial.
>Below that they seem to only muddy up the sound a bit.
>
>I mainly record jazz, from solo guitar in my home studio, to small
>groups live in bad rooms, to a big band in various settings. Most
>stuff gets mic'd from varying distances depending on the situation,
>which, esp. live, I sometimes do not have much control over.
>
>I am looking for natural sounding reverbs, not echo-ey effects.
>
>I have been using an Alesis Nanoverb up till now, and I can work with
>it for some stuff, but it is still not quite natural.
>
>I am looking for a stereo reverb in the $400 range. Used OK. A digital
>I/O would be nice, but not essential. I am willing to play with lots
>of parameters, but a couple good sounds that work would be fine.
>
>Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee
>Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com
>Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band http://www.bigbluebigband.org

[jnorman]

hi willie - glad to hear you are moving up some - you will be amazed
to hear the difference between a real reverb unit and the little
alesis. IMHO, the best deal in a good used reverb these days is the
lexicon PCM90. analog and spdif ins and outs, dedicated reverb with
all the lush, rich lexicon verbs onboard. i just happen to have a
used one on ebay right now for $750 - cant' go wrong with lexicon :-)

[Thomas Althouse]

I don't know about the other ones listed here but, I have been extremely
pleased with a Roland SRV3030D for $440 Can.

It is analog and digital I/O, extremely quiet (beleive the spec's in other
words) and extremely flexible while remaining very believable.

Good luck

Tom eh!



"Luke Kaven" > wrote in message
...
> Willie,
>
> I like Voxengo Pristine Space in software as a great-sounding
> convolution reverb. It's a great deal, and it works very well--I
> don't use anything else anymore. I have a couple of natural
> impulse-response waves that I like, one from a wood room that really
> sounds good on a jazz recording. I'll be glad to set you up with it
> if you need it.
>
> Luke
>
> (Willie K.Yee, M.D.) wrote:
>
>>I am thinking of getting an outboard reverb, now that I have moved up
>>to a Akai DPS-24 DAW. The reverbs on this desk are one of its weak
>>points. Maybe I have just not figured out how to use them, but my
>>problem with them is that they sound kinda weak. Buy the time I turn
>>them up so I can really hear them, they are overblown and artificial.
>>Below that they seem to only muddy up the sound a bit.
>>
>>I mainly record jazz, from solo guitar in my home studio, to small
>>groups live in bad rooms, to a big band in various settings. Most
>>stuff gets mic'd from varying distances depending on the situation,
>>which, esp. live, I sometimes do not have much control over.
>>
>>I am looking for natural sounding reverbs, not echo-ey effects.
>>
>>I have been using an Alesis Nanoverb up till now, and I can work with
>>it for some stuff, but it is still not quite natural.
>>
>>I am looking for a stereo reverb in the $400 range. Used OK. A digital
>>I/O would be nice, but not essential. I am willing to play with lots
>>of parameters, but a couple good sounds that work would be fine.
>>
>>Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee
>>Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com
>>Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band
>>http://www.bigbluebigband.org
>
>

[Douglas Moran]

In article >,
Douglas Moran > wrote:

> In article >,
> (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
> > And, I will say that the Sony DPS-V77 is a newer and somewhat
> > better-sounding
> > version of the same thing, and is absolutely worth grabbing. I see them
> > going
> > for around $1k used, though, so there is still a good demand for them.
> >
> > But either one of the Sony units is something you will keep for a long
> > time,
> > and something you can probably sell for what you paid for it after a
> > decade.
> > --scott
>
> I have a DPS-V77 here, bought on Scott's recommendation. GREAT unit.
> I've seen some go on ebay recently for $550 - 700.
>
> Doug

I see there is a new posting on ebay for one of these DSP-V77s. Item
ID #3748605115. Looks like the seller is some sort of liquidator.

Doug

[Douglas Moran]

In article >,
Douglas Moran > wrote:

> In article >,
> (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
> > And, I will say that the Sony DPS-V77 is a newer and somewhat
> > better-sounding
> > version of the same thing, and is absolutely worth grabbing. I see them
> > going
> > for around $1k used, though, so there is still a good demand for them.
> >
> > But either one of the Sony units is something you will keep for a long
> > time,
> > and something you can probably sell for what you paid for it after a
> > decade.
> > --scott
>
> I have a DPS-V77 here, bought on Scott's recommendation. GREAT unit.
> I've seen some go on ebay recently for $550 - 700.
>
> Doug

I see there is a new posting on ebay for one of these DSP-V77s. Item
ID #3748605115. Looks like the seller is some sort of liquidator.

Doug

[Lorin David Schultz]

"Willie K.Yee, M.D." > wrote in message
...
> I am thinking of getting an outboard reverb, now that I have moved up
> to a Akai DPS-24 DAW. The reverbs on this desk are one of its weak
> points. Maybe I have just not figured out how to use them, but my
> problem with them is that they sound kinda weak. Buy the time I turn
> them up so I can really hear them, they are overblown and artificial.
> Below that they seem to only muddy up the sound a bit.
>
> I mainly record jazz, from solo guitar in my home studio, to small
> groups live in bad rooms, to a big band in various settings. Most
> stuff gets mic'd from varying distances depending on the situation,
> which, esp. live, I sometimes do not have much control over.
>
> I am looking for natural sounding reverbs, not echo-ey effects.
>
> I have been using an Alesis Nanoverb up till now, and I can work with
> it for some stuff, but it is still not quite natural.
>
> I am looking for a stereo reverb in the $400 range. Used OK. A digital
> I/O would be nice, but not essential. I am willing to play with lots
> of parameters, but a couple good sounds that work would be fine.



I use Lexicon MPX1s both at work and at home and haven't had any serious
complaints. Fits both your budget and stated objectives.

--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good

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[Lorin David Schultz]

"Willie K.Yee, M.D." > wrote in message
...
> I am thinking of getting an outboard reverb, now that I have moved up
> to a Akai DPS-24 DAW. The reverbs on this desk are one of its weak
> points. Maybe I have just not figured out how to use them, but my
> problem with them is that they sound kinda weak. Buy the time I turn
> them up so I can really hear them, they are overblown and artificial.
> Below that they seem to only muddy up the sound a bit.
>
> I mainly record jazz, from solo guitar in my home studio, to small
> groups live in bad rooms, to a big band in various settings. Most
> stuff gets mic'd from varying distances depending on the situation,
> which, esp. live, I sometimes do not have much control over.
>
> I am looking for natural sounding reverbs, not echo-ey effects.
>
> I have been using an Alesis Nanoverb up till now, and I can work with
> it for some stuff, but it is still not quite natural.
>
> I am looking for a stereo reverb in the $400 range. Used OK. A digital
> I/O would be nice, but not essential. I am willing to play with lots
> of parameters, but a couple good sounds that work would be fine.



I use Lexicon MPX1s both at work and at home and haven't had any serious
complaints. Fits both your budget and stated objectives.

--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good

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