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eric57
September 11th 04, 10:56 AM
Hello world.
I got an old PYRAL magnetic tape, ref : CJ 50 SR 33.
Please, do you know technical specification about this tape,
or any internet site about the old Pyral products.
I thank you a lot.
Regards.
Eric.
Scott Dorsey
September 11th 04, 01:56 PM
eric57 > wrote:
>I got an old PYRAL magnetic tape, ref : CJ 50 SR 33.
>Please, do you know technical specification about this tape,
>or any internet site about the old Pyral products.
I do not, because the Pyral tapes never got imported into the US. However,
Pyral is still in business and they are still making magnetic film although
they are out of the tape business.
If you send me a reel, I can measure optimal bias and MOL, if that is what
you want. Given the designation, I'd bet that was a red oxide tape for
broadcast use, the sort you bias for a peak on a 1KC tone rather than use
overbias method on.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Scott Dorsey
September 11th 04, 01:56 PM
eric57 > wrote:
>I got an old PYRAL magnetic tape, ref : CJ 50 SR 33.
>Please, do you know technical specification about this tape,
>or any internet site about the old Pyral products.
I do not, because the Pyral tapes never got imported into the US. However,
Pyral is still in business and they are still making magnetic film although
they are out of the tape business.
If you send me a reel, I can measure optimal bias and MOL, if that is what
you want. Given the designation, I'd bet that was a red oxide tape for
broadcast use, the sort you bias for a peak on a 1KC tone rather than use
overbias method on.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Mike Rivers
September 11th 04, 03:05 PM
In article > writes:
> I got an old PYRAL magnetic tape, ref : CJ 50 SR 33.
> Please, do you know technical specification about this tape,
> or any internet site about the old Pyral products.
Not specifically, but there's a lot of generic information about tape
that could apply. What is it that you want to know and how do you plan
to use the information?
This isn't a version of "I found this reel of Pyral tape at a yard
sale. Will it work on the Roberts tape deck I found at a different
yard sale?" is it?
Any Pyral tape is bound to be old enough so that I wouldn't try
recording on it. If you want to play it, you should take care in
handling it, and check for brittle backing and shedding or sticky
oxide.
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Mike Rivers
September 11th 04, 03:05 PM
In article > writes:
> I got an old PYRAL magnetic tape, ref : CJ 50 SR 33.
> Please, do you know technical specification about this tape,
> or any internet site about the old Pyral products.
Not specifically, but there's a lot of generic information about tape
that could apply. What is it that you want to know and how do you plan
to use the information?
This isn't a version of "I found this reel of Pyral tape at a yard
sale. Will it work on the Roberts tape deck I found at a different
yard sale?" is it?
Any Pyral tape is bound to be old enough so that I wouldn't try
recording on it. If you want to play it, you should take care in
handling it, and check for brittle backing and shedding or sticky
oxide.
--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo
TonyP
September 11th 04, 04:33 PM
"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
news:znr1094900998k@trad...
> Any Pyral tape is bound to be old enough so that I wouldn't try
> recording on it. If you want to play it, you should take care in
> handling it, and check for brittle backing and shedding or sticky
> oxide.
Nah, tape lasts for hundreds of years doesn't it Mike?
TonyP.
TonyP
September 11th 04, 04:33 PM
"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
news:znr1094900998k@trad...
> Any Pyral tape is bound to be old enough so that I wouldn't try
> recording on it. If you want to play it, you should take care in
> handling it, and check for brittle backing and shedding or sticky
> oxide.
Nah, tape lasts for hundreds of years doesn't it Mike?
TonyP.
Mike Rivers
September 11th 04, 09:11 PM
In article > writes:
> Nah, tape lasts for hundreds of years doesn't it Mike?
In the hands of someone who knows how to use it, sure. But someone
who asks an incomplete or naive question deserves a warning about its
care and feeding.
Are you SURE you're not Phil Allison?
--
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Mike Rivers
September 11th 04, 09:11 PM
In article > writes:
> Nah, tape lasts for hundreds of years doesn't it Mike?
In the hands of someone who knows how to use it, sure. But someone
who asks an incomplete or naive question deserves a warning about its
care and feeding.
Are you SURE you're not Phil Allison?
--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo
eric57
September 12th 04, 02:10 PM
> Not specifically, but there's a lot of generic information about tape
> that could apply. What is it that you want to know and how do you plan
> to use the information?
I am looking for datasheet as :
http://users.pandora.be/audiomedia/images/Quantegy%20499.htm
or :
http://users.pandora.be/audiomedia/Zonal.htm
to know what usage my tape was made for by the Pyral socity.
Scott Dorsey
September 12th 04, 02:48 PM
eric57 > wrote:
>> Not specifically, but there's a lot of generic information about tape
>> that could apply. What is it that you want to know and how do you plan
>> to use the information?
>
>I am looking for datasheet as :
>http://users.pandora.be/audiomedia/images/Quantegy%20499.htm
>or :
>http://users.pandora.be/audiomedia/Zonal.htm
>to know what usage my tape was made for by the Pyral socity.
Call Pyral and ask.
If they don't have one, you can measure bias point and MOL and look at the
color of the tape and make a pretty good guess whether it was a broadcast,
mastering, or consumer tape.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
TonyP
September 12th 04, 04:25 PM
"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
news:znr1094924012k@trad...
>
> In article >
writes:
>
> > Nah, tape lasts for hundreds of years doesn't it Mike?
>
> In the hands of someone who knows how to use it, sure. But someone
> who asks an incomplete or naive question deserves a warning about its
> care and feeding.
What do you feed 456 to make it last 100 years I wonder?
> Are you SURE you're not Phil Allison?
You have shown why Phil calls you a parrot. That's all you can say it seems.
TonyP.
Shpalman
September 13th 04, 08:42 AM
> What do you feed 456 to make it last 100 years I wonder?
Methylated spirits? ;)
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