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JoVee
August 12th 04, 11:09 PM
Considering you can get The Real Thing for $1k from AEA... what's the
attraction?



in article , playonATcomcast.net
at wrote on 8/12/04 1:19 PM:

> Some discussion here... doesn't sound like the build quality is too
> good:
>
> http://homerecording.com/bbs/archive/index.php/t-123187.html
>
> On 12 Aug 2004 09:53:44 -0700, (kelly mcguire)
> wrote:
>
>> I'm starting to hear some great reports back about this new ribbon mic
>> from Nady. A couple people I know have compared it to some of their
>> Beyers, 441, 421s and other mics they have. So far good reports.
>> anyone know anything about it? seems to be around 300-$400. I havent
>> found it yet here.
>

Scott Dorsey
August 12th 04, 11:12 PM
In article >,
JoVee > wrote:
>Considering you can get The Real Thing for $1k from AEA... what's the
>attraction?

Well, it's a lot less than $1k. I still haven't got an eval one yet,
though. I do have some of the Oktava ML52 ribbons, and they are definitely
not ready for prime time, but maybe can be upgraded.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

JoVee
August 13th 04, 12:51 AM
in article , playonATcomcast.net
at wrote on 8/12/04 6:13 PM:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:09:00 GMT, JoVee >
> wrote:
>
>> Considering you can get The Real Thing for $1k from AEA... what's the
>> attraction?
>
> Saving $700.


Point made...
While a good ribbon at $1k beats the hell out of some restored vintage
irreplaceable thing for $3000+, removing that $700 takes a ribbon mic from
the realm of 'good!' to 'why?'...

kelly mcguire
August 13th 04, 08:29 AM
JoVee > wrote in message >...
> in article , playonATcomcast.net
> at wrote on 8/12/04 6:13 PM:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:09:00 GMT, JoVee >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Considering you can get The Real Thing for $1k from AEA... what's the
> >> attraction?
> >
> > Saving $700.
>
>
> Point made...
> While a good ribbon at $1k beats the hell out of some restored vintage
> irreplaceable thing for $3000+, removing that $700 takes a ribbon mic from
> the realm of 'good!' to 'why?'...
I'm not sure what you mean. if there exists a ribbon mic that sounds
good, is consistent in quality, available and you save $700, why not.
It could play a nice role in someone's studio, of course that remains
to be seen.
Maybe $700 isn't a lot of money for you and any sub $1k mic as a waste
of time. If an "sm57" ubiquitous mic came out today, would you just
dismiss it since it is only $100...or less?

kelly mcguire
August 13th 04, 08:29 AM
JoVee > wrote in message >...
> in article , playonATcomcast.net
> at wrote on 8/12/04 6:13 PM:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:09:00 GMT, JoVee >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Considering you can get The Real Thing for $1k from AEA... what's the
> >> attraction?
> >
> > Saving $700.
>
>
> Point made...
> While a good ribbon at $1k beats the hell out of some restored vintage
> irreplaceable thing for $3000+, removing that $700 takes a ribbon mic from
> the realm of 'good!' to 'why?'...
I'm not sure what you mean. if there exists a ribbon mic that sounds
good, is consistent in quality, available and you save $700, why not.
It could play a nice role in someone's studio, of course that remains
to be seen.
Maybe $700 isn't a lot of money for you and any sub $1k mic as a waste
of time. If an "sm57" ubiquitous mic came out today, would you just
dismiss it since it is only $100...or less?

Ty Ford
August 13th 04, 02:14 PM
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:53:44 -0400, kelly mcguire wrote
(in article >):

> I'm starting to hear some great reports back about this new ribbon mic
> from Nady. A couple people I know have compared it to some of their
> Beyers, 441, 421s and other mics they have. So far good reports.
> anyone know anything about it? seems to be around 300-$400. I havent
> found it yet here.

then..you said

I'm not sure what you mean. if there exists a ribbon mic that sounds good,
is consistent in quality, available and you save $700, why not. It could play
a nice role in someone's studio, of course that remains to be seen. Maybe
$700 isn't a lot of money for you and any sub $1k mic as a waste of time. If
an "sm57" ubiquitous mic came out today, would you just dismiss it since it
is only $100...or less?

So I ask...

I guess what interests me most is what exactly you are starting to hear and
from whom. Your first post could be misconstrued as a trolling for Nady.

Who were these "couple of people?"
How were the comparisons made?
What were the circumstances?
Were they capable of making substantive comments?

There's a lot more unknown than known in your post.

Regards,

Ty Ford






-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford

Ty Ford
August 13th 04, 02:14 PM
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:53:44 -0400, kelly mcguire wrote
(in article >):

> I'm starting to hear some great reports back about this new ribbon mic
> from Nady. A couple people I know have compared it to some of their
> Beyers, 441, 421s and other mics they have. So far good reports.
> anyone know anything about it? seems to be around 300-$400. I havent
> found it yet here.

then..you said

I'm not sure what you mean. if there exists a ribbon mic that sounds good,
is consistent in quality, available and you save $700, why not. It could play
a nice role in someone's studio, of course that remains to be seen. Maybe
$700 isn't a lot of money for you and any sub $1k mic as a waste of time. If
an "sm57" ubiquitous mic came out today, would you just dismiss it since it
is only $100...or less?

So I ask...

I guess what interests me most is what exactly you are starting to hear and
from whom. Your first post could be misconstrued as a trolling for Nady.

Who were these "couple of people?"
How were the comparisons made?
What were the circumstances?
Were they capable of making substantive comments?

There's a lot more unknown than known in your post.

Regards,

Ty Ford






-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford

Mike Rivers
August 13th 04, 03:27 PM
In article > writes:

> Point made...
> While a good ribbon at $1k beats the hell out of some restored vintage
> irreplaceable thing for $3000+, removing that $700 takes a ribbon mic from
> the realm of 'good!' to 'why?'...

Or "why not?"

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Mike Rivers
August 13th 04, 03:27 PM
In article > writes:

> Point made...
> While a good ribbon at $1k beats the hell out of some restored vintage
> irreplaceable thing for $3000+, removing that $700 takes a ribbon mic from
> the realm of 'good!' to 'why?'...

Or "why not?"

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Roger W. Norman
August 13th 04, 03:37 PM
Perhaps, but not necessarily so. The problem is in what level of comparison
one wants to make. In a studio of $200 mics, perhaps a $300 ribbon cuts the
mustard. It's all relative to the pocketbook and budgetary requirements.
I'm not sure I'd buy a $300 ribbon unless it was an M160 or 260
beyerdynamics. And then I'd probably rush it over to Stephen and have it
Sanken-tified. But, if I happen on it with money in my pocket and it seems
to do the job, inexpensive mics don't bother me. At a below $100 like my
MXL 990s, it's a throw away at almost any life cycle. At $300 I'd at least
want it to last a few years! <g> At $1000 I want it to live longer than I
have left.

--
-----------

Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"JoVee" > wrote in message
...
> in article , playonATcomcast.net
> at wrote on 8/12/04 6:13 PM:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:09:00 GMT, JoVee >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Considering you can get The Real Thing for $1k from AEA... what's the
> >> attraction?
> >
> > Saving $700.
>
>
> Point made...
> While a good ribbon at $1k beats the hell out of some restored vintage
> irreplaceable thing for $3000+, removing that $700 takes a ribbon mic from
> the realm of 'good!' to 'why?'...
>

Roger W. Norman
August 13th 04, 03:37 PM
Perhaps, but not necessarily so. The problem is in what level of comparison
one wants to make. In a studio of $200 mics, perhaps a $300 ribbon cuts the
mustard. It's all relative to the pocketbook and budgetary requirements.
I'm not sure I'd buy a $300 ribbon unless it was an M160 or 260
beyerdynamics. And then I'd probably rush it over to Stephen and have it
Sanken-tified. But, if I happen on it with money in my pocket and it seems
to do the job, inexpensive mics don't bother me. At a below $100 like my
MXL 990s, it's a throw away at almost any life cycle. At $300 I'd at least
want it to last a few years! <g> At $1000 I want it to live longer than I
have left.

--
-----------

Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"JoVee" > wrote in message
...
> in article , playonATcomcast.net
> at wrote on 8/12/04 6:13 PM:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:09:00 GMT, JoVee >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Considering you can get The Real Thing for $1k from AEA... what's the
> >> attraction?
> >
> > Saving $700.
>
>
> Point made...
> While a good ribbon at $1k beats the hell out of some restored vintage
> irreplaceable thing for $3000+, removing that $700 takes a ribbon mic from
> the realm of 'good!' to 'why?'...
>

kelly mcguire
August 14th 04, 07:08 AM
Ty Ford > wrote in message >...
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:53:44 -0400, kelly mcguire wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > I'm starting to hear some great reports back about this new ribbon mic
> > from Nady. A couple people I know have compared it to some of their
> > Beyers, 441, 421s and other mics they have. So far good reports.
> > anyone know anything about it? seems to be around 300-$400. I havent
> > found it yet here.
>
> then..you said
>
> I'm not sure what you mean. if there exists a ribbon mic that sounds good,
> is consistent in quality, available and you save $700, why not. It could play
> a nice role in someone's studio, of course that remains to be seen. Maybe
> $700 isn't a lot of money for you and any sub $1k mic as a waste of time. If
> an "sm57" ubiquitous mic came out today, would you just dismiss it since it
> is only $100...or less?
>
> So I ask...
>
> I guess what interests me most is what exactly you are starting to hear and
> from whom. Your first post could be misconstrued as a trolling for Nady.
>
> Who were these "couple of people?"
> How were the comparisons made?
> What were the circumstances?
> Were they capable of making substantive comments?
>
> There's a lot more unknown than known in your post.
> Hmm, it was a question basically, not a review. You either have heard the mic or not. So far I see a lecture of: why bother, price points and inquisitions.

>It was a simple question. Trolling for Nady...funny. You'd think I'd
post that as a troll?
"Who were these people?" an aquaintence of mine had bought the
Octava(had to bring it back to GC, got another and couldn't get much
out of it), owns a royer 121 and other mics and told me it's pretty
cool sounding so far. That's all I know. Seems to be built pretty
nicely he said too. I followed a thread on VSplanet that compared it
to some known mics, with pleasing results. Another on
homerecording.com
> Maybe I should have put "have you heard one of these yet?"
>
>
> -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
> stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford

Ty Ford
August 15th 04, 11:01 PM
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 02:08:42 -0400, kelly mcguire wrote
(in article >):

>> It was a simple question. Trolling for Nady...funny. You'd think I'd post
>> that as a troll?
> "Who were these people?" an aquaintence of mine had bought the Octava(had
> to bring it back to GC, got another and couldn't get much out of it), owns a
> royer 121 and other mics and told me it's pretty cool sounding so far. That's

> all I know. Seems to be built pretty nicely he said too. I followed a thread
> on VSplanet that compared it to some known mics, with pleasing results.
> Another on homerecording.com
>> Maybe I should have put "have you heard one of these yet?"
>>

It's hard to tell sometimes. This group gets trolled pretty regularly because
the distributors and makers know it's an active group. To catch our
attention, they'll float indirect posts using much the same language you used
in you post.

The big guys don't do it, but the little guys do.

Sorry if you were offended. That wasn't my intention.

Regards,

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at http://home.comcast.net/~tyreeford