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J.C. Scott
August 11th 04, 07:00 PM
Just checked the Waves website and discovered the new v5.0 plugins don't
support Samplitude 7(or any version for that matter,) apparently. Bummer if
you're thinking about upgrading. However, it seems version 4 is compatible,
based on their compatibility chart. I wonder what gives?

J.C. Scott
August 11th 04, 08:00 PM
I just got this e-mail back from the Waves support team as I was about to
write my reply:

"-------Use only this link to reply to Waves

-------Answer from Waves at 8/11/2004 2:14:27 PM

Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email.
My name is Aylone Gordon at Waves Support Team.



Support for smplitude was dropped at version 5, sorry.

We don't know what will be in the future regarding smplitude at this time."


--
J.C. Scott

"Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."


"playonATcomcast.net" > wrote in message
...
> As far as I know the plugins work fine with Samplitude? I don't see
> on the site where it specifically says that they don't.
>
> Al
>
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:00:32 GMT, "J.C. Scott" >
> wrote:
>
> >Just checked the Waves website and discovered the new v5.0 plugins don't
> >support Samplitude 7(or any version for that matter,) apparently. Bummer
if
> >you're thinking about upgrading. However, it seems version 4 is
compatible,
> >based on their compatibility chart. I wonder what gives?
> >
>

Blind Joni
August 11th 04, 08:06 PM
>Support for smplitude was dropped at version 5, sorry.
>
>We don't know what will be in the future regarding smplitude at this time."

Direct X is Direct X ..No?
John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637

J.C. Scott
August 11th 04, 08:43 PM
Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then there are
others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in multitracking, a
lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you used v4.

--
J.C. Scott

"Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."


"playonATcomcast.net" > wrote in message
...
> On 11 Aug 2004 19:06:18 GMT, (Blind Joni) wrote:
>
> >>Support for smplitude was dropped at version 5, sorry.
> >>
> >>We don't know what will be in the future regarding smplitude at this
time."
> >
> >Direct X is Direct X ..No?
>
> Yeah... I don't get it. Samplitude also supports VST now, so it seems
> you could use the Waves plugins that way as well.
>
> Al

Blind Joni
August 11th 04, 08:47 PM
>Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then there are
>others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in multitracking, a
>lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you used v4.

This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain combinations of
functions.
John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637

J.C. Scott
August 11th 04, 09:01 PM
I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I suppose.

--
J.C. Scott

"Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."


"Blind Joni" > wrote in message
...
> >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then there
are
> >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
multitracking, a
> >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you used v4.
>
> This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain combinations
of
> functions.
> John A. Chiara
> SOS Recording Studio
> Live Sound Inc.
> Albany, NY
> www.sosrecording.net
> 518-449-1637

Kurt Albershardt
August 11th 04, 09:21 PM
playonATcomcast.net wrote:

> It's very odd that they did that with Samplitude, I wonder what the
> reasoning is behind this.

Might have something to do with the Magix-Algorithmix relationship.

Max Arwood
August 12th 04, 06:21 AM
I have not upgraded to Samplitue 7 yet, but Waves 5 works in Samplitude 6
for what ever thats worth.
Max Arwood

"Kurt Albershardt" > wrote in message
...
> playonATcomcast.net wrote:
>
> > It's very odd that they did that with Samplitude, I wonder what the
> > reasoning is behind this.
>
> Might have something to do with the Magix-Algorithmix relationship.
>
>
>

Roger W. Norman
August 12th 04, 02:25 PM
Wait and maybe v8 of Samplitude will fix any inconsistencies. A fact that I
hate because I just finally upgraded to 7.22 and have only just begun to use
it. Apparently I'm not moving from 6.04 for the foreseeable future, or at
least until I hear positive things about v8.

--
-----------

Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
...
> I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I suppose.
>
> --
> J.C. Scott
>
> "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."
>
>
> "Blind Joni" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then there
> are
> > >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
> multitracking, a
> > >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you used v4.
> >
> > This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain
combinations
> of
> > functions.
> > John A. Chiara
> > SOS Recording Studio
> > Live Sound Inc.
> > Albany, NY
> > www.sosrecording.net
> > 518-449-1637
>
>

J.C. Scott
August 12th 04, 04:01 PM
After fiddling around a lot, I've discovered that at least some of the
problems I've been experiencing with the v5 plugins seem related to the ASIO
drivers in some capacity. When I switched to the WDM drivers in Samp, it
didn't give me the error regarding realtime playback (using the SoundShifter
P plug, in particular, would facilitate this) although the sound was
completely choppy, and it basically made my computer sluggish as hell, which
resulted in hardly being able to move the mouse. In any case, as crazy as
it may sound, after switching back to the ASIO drivers, I noticed many of
the errors I was getting aren't there anymore(reacts the same as the WDM
drivers now.) I'm at a loss to explain why switching from ASIO to WDM then
back again would make any difference but I can at least use a good majority
of the v5 plugs without any complications now, or so it seems for now
anyway.

--
J.C. Scott

"Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."


"Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
...
> Wait and maybe v8 of Samplitude will fix any inconsistencies. A fact that
I
> hate because I just finally upgraded to 7.22 and have only just begun to
use
> it. Apparently I'm not moving from 6.04 for the foreseeable future, or at
> least until I hear positive things about v8.
>
> --
> -----------
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
>
>
> "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I suppose.
> >
> > --
> > J.C. Scott
> >
> > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."
> >
> >
> > "Blind Joni" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then
there
> > are
> > > >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
> > multitracking, a
> > > >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you used
v4.
> > >
> > > This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain
> combinations
> > of
> > > functions.
> > > John A. Chiara
> > > SOS Recording Studio
> > > Live Sound Inc.
> > > Albany, NY
> > > www.sosrecording.net
> > > 518-449-1637
> >
> >
>
>

Max Arwood
August 13th 04, 03:35 PM
Don't have any problems here.
Max Arwood

"playonATcomcast.net" > wrote in message
...
> Do the all the Wasves FX work in the track inserts, and/or when
> applied to objects?
>
> Al
>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 05:21:28 GMT, "Max Arwood" >
> wrote:
>
> >I have not upgraded to Samplitue 7 yet, but Waves 5 works in Samplitude
6
> >for what ever thats worth.
> >Max Arwood
> >
> >"Kurt Albershardt" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> playonATcomcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >> > It's very odd that they did that with Samplitude, I wonder what the
> >> > reasoning is behind this.
> >>
> >> Might have something to do with the Magix-Algorithmix relationship.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Max Arwood
August 13th 04, 03:35 PM
Don't have any problems here.
Max Arwood

"playonATcomcast.net" > wrote in message
...
> Do the all the Wasves FX work in the track inserts, and/or when
> applied to objects?
>
> Al
>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 05:21:28 GMT, "Max Arwood" >
> wrote:
>
> >I have not upgraded to Samplitue 7 yet, but Waves 5 works in Samplitude
6
> >for what ever thats worth.
> >Max Arwood
> >
> >"Kurt Albershardt" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> playonATcomcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >> > It's very odd that they did that with Samplitude, I wonder what the
> >> > reasoning is behind this.
> >>
> >> Might have something to do with the Magix-Algorithmix relationship.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Roger W. Norman
August 13th 04, 03:48 PM
Adjust the Samplitude buffers and Trackspeed settings. You should be able
to get Samp 7 running smoothly with either tons of tracks or with fewer
tracks but more than just a few plugs. Most plugs today aren't really all
that CPU hogging, so I'm not sure what problem to look at first, but
certainly I use multiple instances of VST reverbs and compression without
much more than 20% CPU utilization on maybe 16 tracks or so. But you may
want to group some of your FX so as to save some of your CPU. I had some
initial choppiness with ASIO on my RME when I first moved to Samplitude 7,
but it was easily managed with a little more latency in the RME. I'd have
to do some looking to see what I ultimately set it up as, but if you want, I
can do so. You didn't mention, however, which audio unit you were working
with, so it could most certainly be your ASIO drivers if you're using a MOTU
2408 or similar, for instance. I have two audio computers and the Motu
based one doesn't do ASIO well, so I only use emulated WDM (actually the
older driver model that emulates WDM without actually being WDM). On the
A64, however, even the older RME 9652 has rock solid ASIO performance if you
don't need 4 MS of latency. And I haven't started tweaking my XP/A64 system
yet, so I may well be able to get even better response while keeping latency
down.

If there's anything specific I can help with, hit me with an email.
Otherwise try the Alt.sekd samplitude newsgroup.

--
-----------

Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
...
> After fiddling around a lot, I've discovered that at least some of the
> problems I've been experiencing with the v5 plugins seem related to the
ASIO
> drivers in some capacity. When I switched to the WDM drivers in Samp, it
> didn't give me the error regarding realtime playback (using the
SoundShifter
> P plug, in particular, would facilitate this) although the sound was
> completely choppy, and it basically made my computer sluggish as hell,
which
> resulted in hardly being able to move the mouse. In any case, as crazy as
> it may sound, after switching back to the ASIO drivers, I noticed many of
> the errors I was getting aren't there anymore(reacts the same as the WDM
> drivers now.) I'm at a loss to explain why switching from ASIO to WDM then
> back again would make any difference but I can at least use a good
majority
> of the v5 plugs without any complications now, or so it seems for now
> anyway.
>
> --
> J.C. Scott
>
> "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."
>
>
> "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Wait and maybe v8 of Samplitude will fix any inconsistencies. A fact
that
> I
> > hate because I just finally upgraded to 7.22 and have only just begun to
> use
> > it. Apparently I'm not moving from 6.04 for the foreseeable future, or
at
> > least until I hear positive things about v8.
> >
> > --
> > -----------
> >
> > Roger W. Norman
> > SirMusic Studio
> >
> >
> > "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I suppose.
> > >
> > > --
> > > J.C. Scott
> > >
> > > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get
up."
> > >
> > >
> > > "Blind Joni" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then
> there
> > > are
> > > > >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
> > > multitracking, a
> > > > >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you used
> v4.
> > > >
> > > > This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain
> > combinations
> > > of
> > > > functions.
> > > > John A. Chiara
> > > > SOS Recording Studio
> > > > Live Sound Inc.
> > > > Albany, NY
> > > > www.sosrecording.net
> > > > 518-449-1637
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Roger W. Norman
August 13th 04, 03:48 PM
Adjust the Samplitude buffers and Trackspeed settings. You should be able
to get Samp 7 running smoothly with either tons of tracks or with fewer
tracks but more than just a few plugs. Most plugs today aren't really all
that CPU hogging, so I'm not sure what problem to look at first, but
certainly I use multiple instances of VST reverbs and compression without
much more than 20% CPU utilization on maybe 16 tracks or so. But you may
want to group some of your FX so as to save some of your CPU. I had some
initial choppiness with ASIO on my RME when I first moved to Samplitude 7,
but it was easily managed with a little more latency in the RME. I'd have
to do some looking to see what I ultimately set it up as, but if you want, I
can do so. You didn't mention, however, which audio unit you were working
with, so it could most certainly be your ASIO drivers if you're using a MOTU
2408 or similar, for instance. I have two audio computers and the Motu
based one doesn't do ASIO well, so I only use emulated WDM (actually the
older driver model that emulates WDM without actually being WDM). On the
A64, however, even the older RME 9652 has rock solid ASIO performance if you
don't need 4 MS of latency. And I haven't started tweaking my XP/A64 system
yet, so I may well be able to get even better response while keeping latency
down.

If there's anything specific I can help with, hit me with an email.
Otherwise try the Alt.sekd samplitude newsgroup.

--
-----------

Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
...
> After fiddling around a lot, I've discovered that at least some of the
> problems I've been experiencing with the v5 plugins seem related to the
ASIO
> drivers in some capacity. When I switched to the WDM drivers in Samp, it
> didn't give me the error regarding realtime playback (using the
SoundShifter
> P plug, in particular, would facilitate this) although the sound was
> completely choppy, and it basically made my computer sluggish as hell,
which
> resulted in hardly being able to move the mouse. In any case, as crazy as
> it may sound, after switching back to the ASIO drivers, I noticed many of
> the errors I was getting aren't there anymore(reacts the same as the WDM
> drivers now.) I'm at a loss to explain why switching from ASIO to WDM then
> back again would make any difference but I can at least use a good
majority
> of the v5 plugs without any complications now, or so it seems for now
> anyway.
>
> --
> J.C. Scott
>
> "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."
>
>
> "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Wait and maybe v8 of Samplitude will fix any inconsistencies. A fact
that
> I
> > hate because I just finally upgraded to 7.22 and have only just begun to
> use
> > it. Apparently I'm not moving from 6.04 for the foreseeable future, or
at
> > least until I hear positive things about v8.
> >
> > --
> > -----------
> >
> > Roger W. Norman
> > SirMusic Studio
> >
> >
> > "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I suppose.
> > >
> > > --
> > > J.C. Scott
> > >
> > > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get
up."
> > >
> > >
> > > "Blind Joni" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then
> there
> > > are
> > > > >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
> > > multitracking, a
> > > > >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you used
> v4.
> > > >
> > > > This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain
> > combinations
> > > of
> > > > functions.
> > > > John A. Chiara
> > > > SOS Recording Studio
> > > > Live Sound Inc.
> > > > Albany, NY
> > > > www.sosrecording.net
> > > > 518-449-1637
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

J.C. Scott
August 14th 04, 09:45 AM
Thank you for the response, Roger. It's much appreciated. I just got
through reading your message so I'll give your recommendations a try in a
bit. Again, I do appreciate you taking the time.

Regards

--
J.C. Scott

"Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."


"Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
...
> Adjust the Samplitude buffers and Trackspeed settings. You should be able
> to get Samp 7 running smoothly with either tons of tracks or with fewer
> tracks but more than just a few plugs. Most plugs today aren't really all
> that CPU hogging, so I'm not sure what problem to look at first, but
> certainly I use multiple instances of VST reverbs and compression without
> much more than 20% CPU utilization on maybe 16 tracks or so. But you may
> want to group some of your FX so as to save some of your CPU. I had some
> initial choppiness with ASIO on my RME when I first moved to Samplitude 7,
> but it was easily managed with a little more latency in the RME. I'd have
> to do some looking to see what I ultimately set it up as, but if you want,
I
> can do so. You didn't mention, however, which audio unit you were working
> with, so it could most certainly be your ASIO drivers if you're using a
MOTU
> 2408 or similar, for instance. I have two audio computers and the Motu
> based one doesn't do ASIO well, so I only use emulated WDM (actually the
> older driver model that emulates WDM without actually being WDM). On the
> A64, however, even the older RME 9652 has rock solid ASIO performance if
you
> don't need 4 MS of latency. And I haven't started tweaking my XP/A64
system
> yet, so I may well be able to get even better response while keeping
latency
> down.
>
> If there's anything specific I can help with, hit me with an email.
> Otherwise try the Alt.sekd samplitude newsgroup.
>
> --
> -----------
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
>
>
> "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
> > After fiddling around a lot, I've discovered that at least some of the
> > problems I've been experiencing with the v5 plugins seem related to the
> ASIO
> > drivers in some capacity. When I switched to the WDM drivers in Samp,
it
> > didn't give me the error regarding realtime playback (using the
> SoundShifter
> > P plug, in particular, would facilitate this) although the sound was
> > completely choppy, and it basically made my computer sluggish as hell,
> which
> > resulted in hardly being able to move the mouse. In any case, as crazy
as
> > it may sound, after switching back to the ASIO drivers, I noticed many
of
> > the errors I was getting aren't there anymore(reacts the same as the WDM
> > drivers now.) I'm at a loss to explain why switching from ASIO to WDM
then
> > back again would make any difference but I can at least use a good
> majority
> > of the v5 plugs without any complications now, or so it seems for now
> > anyway.
> >
> > --
> > J.C. Scott
> >
> > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."
> >
> >
> > "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Wait and maybe v8 of Samplitude will fix any inconsistencies. A fact
> that
> > I
> > > hate because I just finally upgraded to 7.22 and have only just begun
to
> > use
> > > it. Apparently I'm not moving from 6.04 for the foreseeable future,
or
> at
> > > least until I hear positive things about v8.
> > >
> > > --
> > > -----------
> > >
> > > Roger W. Norman
> > > SirMusic Studio
> > >
> > >
> > > "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I suppose.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > J.C. Scott
> > > >
> > > > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get
> up."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Blind Joni" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > > >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
> > > > multitracking, a
> > > > > >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you
used
> > v4.
> > > > >
> > > > > This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain
> > > combinations
> > > > of
> > > > > functions.
> > > > > John A. Chiara
> > > > > SOS Recording Studio
> > > > > Live Sound Inc.
> > > > > Albany, NY
> > > > > www.sosrecording.net
> > > > > 518-449-1637
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

J.C. Scott
August 14th 04, 09:47 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention I'm using the Firewire Audiophile.

Thanks again.

--
J.C. Scott

"Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."


"Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
...
> Adjust the Samplitude buffers and Trackspeed settings. You should be able
> to get Samp 7 running smoothly with either tons of tracks or with fewer
> tracks but more than just a few plugs. Most plugs today aren't really all
> that CPU hogging, so I'm not sure what problem to look at first, but
> certainly I use multiple instances of VST reverbs and compression without
> much more than 20% CPU utilization on maybe 16 tracks or so. But you may
> want to group some of your FX so as to save some of your CPU. I had some
> initial choppiness with ASIO on my RME when I first moved to Samplitude 7,
> but it was easily managed with a little more latency in the RME. I'd have
> to do some looking to see what I ultimately set it up as, but if you want,
I
> can do so. You didn't mention, however, which audio unit you were working
> with, so it could most certainly be your ASIO drivers if you're using a
MOTU
> 2408 or similar, for instance. I have two audio computers and the Motu
> based one doesn't do ASIO well, so I only use emulated WDM (actually the
> older driver model that emulates WDM without actually being WDM). On the
> A64, however, even the older RME 9652 has rock solid ASIO performance if
you
> don't need 4 MS of latency. And I haven't started tweaking my XP/A64
system
> yet, so I may well be able to get even better response while keeping
latency
> down.
>
> If there's anything specific I can help with, hit me with an email.
> Otherwise try the Alt.sekd samplitude newsgroup.
>
> --
> -----------
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
>
>
> "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
> > After fiddling around a lot, I've discovered that at least some of the
> > problems I've been experiencing with the v5 plugins seem related to the
> ASIO
> > drivers in some capacity. When I switched to the WDM drivers in Samp,
it
> > didn't give me the error regarding realtime playback (using the
> SoundShifter
> > P plug, in particular, would facilitate this) although the sound was
> > completely choppy, and it basically made my computer sluggish as hell,
> which
> > resulted in hardly being able to move the mouse. In any case, as crazy
as
> > it may sound, after switching back to the ASIO drivers, I noticed many
of
> > the errors I was getting aren't there anymore(reacts the same as the WDM
> > drivers now.) I'm at a loss to explain why switching from ASIO to WDM
then
> > back again would make any difference but I can at least use a good
> majority
> > of the v5 plugs without any complications now, or so it seems for now
> > anyway.
> >
> > --
> > J.C. Scott
> >
> > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."
> >
> >
> > "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Wait and maybe v8 of Samplitude will fix any inconsistencies. A fact
> that
> > I
> > > hate because I just finally upgraded to 7.22 and have only just begun
to
> > use
> > > it. Apparently I'm not moving from 6.04 for the foreseeable future,
or
> at
> > > least until I hear positive things about v8.
> > >
> > > --
> > > -----------
> > >
> > > Roger W. Norman
> > > SirMusic Studio
> > >
> > >
> > > "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I suppose.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > J.C. Scott
> > > >
> > > > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get
> up."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Blind Joni" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but then
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > > >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
> > > > multitracking, a
> > > > > >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you
used
> > v4.
> > > > >
> > > > > This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain
> > > combinations
> > > > of
> > > > > functions.
> > > > > John A. Chiara
> > > > > SOS Recording Studio
> > > > > Live Sound Inc.
> > > > > Albany, NY
> > > > > www.sosrecording.net
> > > > > 518-449-1637
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

J.C. Scott
August 14th 04, 09:54 AM
Success! Roger, The trackspeed and buffer options did the trick fine. I
owe you one.

Another big thank you and best regards,
J.C. Scott



"J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you for the response, Roger. It's much appreciated. I just got
> through reading your message so I'll give your recommendations a try in a
> bit. Again, I do appreciate you taking the time.
>
> Regards
>
> --
> J.C. Scott
>
> "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up."
>
>
> "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Adjust the Samplitude buffers and Trackspeed settings. You should be
able
> > to get Samp 7 running smoothly with either tons of tracks or with fewer
> > tracks but more than just a few plugs. Most plugs today aren't really
all
> > that CPU hogging, so I'm not sure what problem to look at first, but
> > certainly I use multiple instances of VST reverbs and compression
without
> > much more than 20% CPU utilization on maybe 16 tracks or so. But you
may
> > want to group some of your FX so as to save some of your CPU. I had
some
> > initial choppiness with ASIO on my RME when I first moved to Samplitude
7,
> > but it was easily managed with a little more latency in the RME. I'd
have
> > to do some looking to see what I ultimately set it up as, but if you
want,
> I
> > can do so. You didn't mention, however, which audio unit you were
working
> > with, so it could most certainly be your ASIO drivers if you're using a
> MOTU
> > 2408 or similar, for instance. I have two audio computers and the Motu
> > based one doesn't do ASIO well, so I only use emulated WDM (actually the
> > older driver model that emulates WDM without actually being WDM). On
the
> > A64, however, even the older RME 9652 has rock solid ASIO performance if
> you
> > don't need 4 MS of latency. And I haven't started tweaking my XP/A64
> system
> > yet, so I may well be able to get even better response while keeping
> latency
> > down.
> >
> > If there's anything specific I can help with, hit me with an email.
> > Otherwise try the Alt.sekd samplitude newsgroup.
> >
> > --
> > -----------
> >
> > Roger W. Norman
> > SirMusic Studio
> >
> >
> > "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > After fiddling around a lot, I've discovered that at least some of the
> > > problems I've been experiencing with the v5 plugins seem related to
the
> > ASIO
> > > drivers in some capacity. When I switched to the WDM drivers in Samp,
> it
> > > didn't give me the error regarding realtime playback (using the
> > SoundShifter
> > > P plug, in particular, would facilitate this) although the sound was
> > > completely choppy, and it basically made my computer sluggish as hell,
> > which
> > > resulted in hardly being able to move the mouse. In any case, as
crazy
> as
> > > it may sound, after switching back to the ASIO drivers, I noticed many
> of
> > > the errors I was getting aren't there anymore(reacts the same as the
WDM
> > > drivers now.) I'm at a loss to explain why switching from ASIO to WDM
> then
> > > back again would make any difference but I can at least use a good
> > majority
> > > of the v5 plugs without any complications now, or so it seems for now
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > --
> > > J.C. Scott
> > >
> > > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get
up."
> > >
> > >
> > > "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Wait and maybe v8 of Samplitude will fix any inconsistencies. A
fact
> > that
> > > I
> > > > hate because I just finally upgraded to 7.22 and have only just
begun
> to
> > > use
> > > > it. Apparently I'm not moving from 6.04 for the foreseeable future,
> or
> > at
> > > > least until I hear positive things about v8.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -----------
> > > >
> > > > Roger W. Norman
> > > > SirMusic Studio
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "J.C. Scott" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I simply won't be upgrading, and plan on keeping with v4, I
suppose.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > J.C. Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > "Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get
> > up."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Blind Joni" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > >Oh you can use them and some of them will come up fine, but
then
> > > there
> > > > > are
> > > > > > >others you'll try to use (DX or VST) and when using them in
> > > > > multitracking, a
> > > > > > >lot of them say they can't be run realtime, which is BS if you
> used
> > > v4.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This happens sometimes with V4..rarely and only with certain
> > > > combinations
> > > > > of
> > > > > > functions.
> > > > > > John A. Chiara
> > > > > > SOS Recording Studio
> > > > > > Live Sound Inc.
> > > > > > Albany, NY
> > > > > > www.sosrecording.net
> > > > > > 518-449-1637
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>