Buying Second Hand Mixer

[HKC]

I intend to buy a second hand mixer like Soundcraft Ghost or something
priced similarly. I have seen them as low as 2000 euros which is definately
possible for me to pay. My limit is around the 3000 euro mark but there seem
to be quite a few mixers to choose from. Soundtracs Quartz, Soundcraft 6000,
Tac Scorpion or even better Matchless, Tascam 600......Which mixer would you
advice me to go for, my needs are quite small since I do most of my
recording through pre-amps.
The real motive behind this purchase is to stand out of the Mackie/Behringer
studios that pop up everywhere. I have recently done a string of rather
successfull projects and it has given me enough money (read faith) to move
my studio from my basement into a "just about to be built" cottage in my
garden. Since this would mean a total rewire of everything I thought the
timing of changing my mixer couldn´t be better. 16/8/2 inline channels would
be enough but obviously 24 would be better as looks does matter when it
comes to clients. I won´t actually buy the mixer before January (tax
reasons) but the research starts now.


Henrik Krogh

[HKC]

Analogeezer wrote: 1. Figure out how many channels you think you need, then
buy a console that has twice as many. 16 channels may seem like enough but I
bet you'd run out quickly.

I have run my studio for quite a long time now so I´m quite sure that I
won´t suddenly need 32 channels. Anyway as I wrote, I need an in-line mixer
so that would mean at least 32 channels during mixdown. I will mainly use
the mixer when I record drums for which I use 8-12 channels. Most other
signals are recorded thru dedicated preamps like Avalon U5 for bass, my TLA
Indigo for guitar, my Joe Meek VC2 for vocals and so on. During mixdown I
mainly stay in the digital domain but I do usually run some keyboards live
so I use maybe 8 channels for that, like I said 16 channels will do but I
would prefer 24 even if it´s just to impress my clients.
Henrik Krogh

[George]

In article >,
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> George > wrote:
> >In article >,
> > "Roger W. Norman" > wrote:
> >
> >> Modular is relative. My Soundtracs Solo is modular, but you can't just
> >> yank
> >> a board out the top of the board. My Crest XR20 is modular but you can't
> >> just yank a board out the top. Both have a serial buss that support
> >> insert
> >> boards, but neither are intuitive to open and repair. Both can be
> >> repaired
> >> by the user, however. It's just not easy. Easy and doable are two
> >> different things.
> >>
> >nothing like the noiseless hot swappable channels on the cadac, huh
>
> Yeah, but I can't even _rent_ a baby Cadac. I wanted one of the little
> S-series consoles and nobody seems to have any rentals on the east coast.
> So, I'll probably wind up with an XR20...
> --scott


I almost went for a short loaded one at aes but I didn't have 3 phase
power it required!!!or the 30,000$ for a 24 ch desk!
george

[Roger W. Norman]

You can borrow mine to make certain that you like it. It kicks butt,
however it's not easy to set up.

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Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...
> George > wrote:
> >In article >,
> > "Roger W. Norman" > wrote:
> >
> >> Modular is relative. My Soundtracs Solo is modular, but you can't just
yank
> >> a board out the top of the board. My Crest XR20 is modular but you
can't
> >> just yank a board out the top. Both have a serial buss that support
insert
> >> boards, but neither are intuitive to open and repair. Both can be
repaired
> >> by the user, however. It's just not easy. Easy and doable are two
> >> different things.
> >>
> >nothing like the noiseless hot swappable channels on the cadac, huh
>
> Yeah, but I can't even _rent_ a baby Cadac. I wanted one of the little
> S-series consoles and nobody seems to have any rentals on the east coast.
> So, I'll probably wind up with an XR20...
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[jeff]

> I'd pick up a Soundtracs over a Ghost, but that's just me and because I
> already did so. A Quartz is a really nice console for that price. I'd stay
> away from the Scorpion and a Matchless is only iffy (headroom issues).
> Tascam 600 is not an option other than price since it's days are well done
> and you'd be spending extra bucks on a refurb. Still, at best it's noisier
> than most you've mentioned. Obviously the Ghost is the newer of them all
> and probably would be the better buy in terms of usage versus maintenance.

the allen and heath gs3000 is worth looking into if you can find one.
i'm very happy with mine, both sound and flexibility-wise....

jeff

[jeff]

> I'd pick up a Soundtracs over a Ghost, but that's just me and because I
> already did so. A Quartz is a really nice console for that price. I'd stay
> away from the Scorpion and a Matchless is only iffy (headroom issues).
> Tascam 600 is not an option other than price since it's days are well done
> and you'd be spending extra bucks on a refurb. Still, at best it's noisier
> than most you've mentioned. Obviously the Ghost is the newer of them all
> and probably would be the better buy in terms of usage versus maintenance.

the allen and heath gs3000 is worth looking into if you can find one.
i'm very happy with mine, both sound and flexibility-wise....

jeff

[George Perfect]

In this place, Roger W. Norman was recorded saying ...

> I don't have the link for the well known resale site in the UK for
> Soundtracs because this isn't the computer I normally use and I haven't
> transferred everything over, but it's something like studiosystems.com
> (maybe someone can step in here and give him the actual URL).

http://www.studiosys.demon.co.uk/

--
George
Newcastle, England

Problems worthy of attack
Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein

[George Perfect]

In this place, Roger W. Norman was recorded saying ...

> I don't have the link for the well known resale site in the UK for
> Soundtracs because this isn't the computer I normally use and I haven't
> transferred everything over, but it's something like studiosystems.com
> (maybe someone can step in here and give him the actual URL).

http://www.studiosys.demon.co.uk/

--
George
Newcastle, England

Problems worthy of attack
Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein

[Roger W. Norman]

Thanks. I hate not having my other older computer up and running. Every
time I turn around, any of the information I need is on that one! <g>

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Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"George Perfect" > wrote in message
o.uk...
> In this place, Roger W. Norman was recorded saying ...
>
> > I don't have the link for the well known resale site in the UK for
> > Soundtracs because this isn't the computer I normally use and I haven't
> > transferred everything over, but it's something like studiosystems.com
> > (maybe someone can step in here and give him the actual URL).
>
> http://www.studiosys.demon.co.uk/
>
> --
> George
> Newcastle, England
>
> Problems worthy of attack
> Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein

[Roger W. Norman]

Thanks. I hate not having my other older computer up and running. Every
time I turn around, any of the information I need is on that one! <g>

--
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Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"George Perfect" > wrote in message
o.uk...
> In this place, Roger W. Norman was recorded saying ...
>
> > I don't have the link for the well known resale site in the UK for
> > Soundtracs because this isn't the computer I normally use and I haven't
> > transferred everything over, but it's something like studiosystems.com
> > (maybe someone can step in here and give him the actual URL).
>
> http://www.studiosys.demon.co.uk/
>
> --
> George
> Newcastle, England
>
> Problems worthy of attack
> Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein