Recording Techniques for 'The Wes Montgomery Trio'

[damo_e24]

Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
hepful.
Thanks
Damo

[Phil Brown]

>Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
>Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
>hepful.

Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.
Phl Brown

[Phil Brown]

>Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
>Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
>hepful.

Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.
Phl Brown

[Scott Dorsey]

Phil Brown > wrote:
>>Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
>>Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
>>hepful.
>
>Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
>engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.

Sorry, that's not funny.

The album he's referring to was produced by Orrin Keepnews if I recall, and
engineered at Reeves Sound. It's on Riverside.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Phil Brown > wrote:
>>Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
>>Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
>>hepful.
>
>Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
>engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.

Sorry, that's not funny.

The album he's referring to was produced by Orrin Keepnews if I recall, and
engineered at Reeves Sound. It's on Riverside.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Phil Brown]

>>Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc.
>Whjo
>>engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well
documented.
>
>Sorry, that's not funny.

Wasn't meant to be funny and why would it? Rudy's setup stayed the same and has
been written up several times.

>The album he's referring to was produced by Orrin Keepnews if I recall,
>and
>engineered at Reeves Sound. It's on Riverside.

Well, perhaps getting in touch with Orrin, which shouldn't be difficult since
he's still very much around, might be the first step.
Phil Brown

[Phil Brown]

>>Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc.
>Whjo
>>engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well
documented.
>
>Sorry, that's not funny.

Wasn't meant to be funny and why would it? Rudy's setup stayed the same and has
been written up several times.

>The album he's referring to was produced by Orrin Keepnews if I recall,
>and
>engineered at Reeves Sound. It's on Riverside.

Well, perhaps getting in touch with Orrin, which shouldn't be difficult since
he's still very much around, might be the first step.
Phil Brown

[damo_e24]

(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message >...
> Phil Brown > wrote:
> >>Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
> >>Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
> >>hepful.
> >
> >Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
> >engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.
>
> Sorry, that's not funny.
>
> The album he's referring to was produced by Orrin Keepnews if I recall, and
> engineered at Reeves Sound. It's on Riverside.
> --scott

Thanks scott, do u or anyone else know where i can find information on
how they actually recorded it. On the new 20 bit remastered version it
sounds as though it is quite a roomy type of sound. I figure that a
room mic was used to ephasize this, but i'm only a newbie and i'm
after anything at all that can help me out
thanks
damo

[damo_e24]

(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message >...
> Phil Brown > wrote:
> >>Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
> >>Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
> >>hepful.
> >
> >Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
> >engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.
>
> Sorry, that's not funny.
>
> The album he's referring to was produced by Orrin Keepnews if I recall, and
> engineered at Reeves Sound. It's on Riverside.
> --scott

Thanks scott, do u or anyone else know where i can find information on
how they actually recorded it. On the new 20 bit remastered version it
sounds as though it is quite a roomy type of sound. I figure that a
room mic was used to ephasize this, but i'm only a newbie and i'm
after anything at all that can help me out
thanks
damo

[Scott Dorsey]

Phil Brown > wrote:
>>>Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc.
>>Whjo
>>>engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well
>documented.
>>
>>Sorry, that's not funny.
>
>Wasn't meant to be funny and why would it? Rudy's setup stayed the same and has
>been written up several times.

Oh, so THAT is where they hid those weapons of mass destruction!
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Phil Brown > wrote:
>>>Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc.
>>Whjo
>>>engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well
>documented.
>>
>>Sorry, that's not funny.
>
>Wasn't meant to be funny and why would it? Rudy's setup stayed the same and has
>been written up several times.

Oh, so THAT is where they hid those weapons of mass destruction!
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Ricky W. Hunt]

"Phil Brown" > wrote in message
...
>
> Wasn't meant to be funny and why would it? Rudy's setup stayed the same
and has
> been written up several times.
>

Is there a cite for that?

[Ricky W. Hunt]

"Phil Brown" > wrote in message
...
>
> Wasn't meant to be funny and why would it? Rudy's setup stayed the same
and has
> been written up several times.
>

Is there a cite for that?

[transducr]

(Phil Brown) wrote in message >...
> >Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
> >Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
> >hepful.
>
> Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
> engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.
> Phl Brown

do tell!

[transducr]

(Phil Brown) wrote in message >...
> >Does Anyone have any information on how i can find out how 'The Wes
> >Montgomery Trio'album was recorded? All and any information would be
> >hepful.
>
> Gotta give a bit more info. Some of us can't put out hands on the disc. Whjo
> engineered and produced? If it'sRudy Van Gelder his set up is well documented.
> Phl Brown

do tell!

[Scott Dorsey]

In article >,
damo_e24 > wrote:
(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message >...
>>
>> The album he's referring to was produced by Orrin Keepnews if I recall, and
>> engineered at Reeves Sound. It's on Riverside.
>
>Thanks scott, do u or anyone else know where i can find information on
>how they actually recorded it. On the new 20 bit remastered version it
>sounds as though it is quite a roomy type of sound. I figure that a
>room mic was used to ephasize this, but i'm only a newbie and i'm
>after anything at all that can help me out

All I really know is what is on the back of the LP, which is not much.
On the other hand, with Riverside you can at least believe the stuff in
the liner notes, which is not always the case with other labels.

Listening to the record, it sounds like a pretty conventional job for
that era. Lots of distant miking, mixed with occasional spots. If it
wasn't done live-to-2-track, it could have been without any loss.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[JoVee]

>> Thanks scott, do u or anyone else know where i can find information on
>> how they actually recorded it. On the new 20 bit remastered version it
>> sounds as though it is quite a roomy type of sound. I figure that a
>> room mic was used to ephasize this, but i'm only a newbie and i'm
>> after anything at all that can help me out
>
> All I really know is what is on the back of the LP, which is not much.
> On the other hand, with Riverside you can at least believe the stuff in
> the liner notes, which is not always the case with other labels.
>
> Listening to the record, it sounds like a pretty conventional job for
> that era. Lots of distant miking, mixed with occasional spots. If it
> wasn't done live-to-2-track, it could have been without any loss.
> --scott

I'll toss this in...

Roomy Sound does not neccessarily come from 'distant miking'.
It more reliably comes from merely working in a good live room of some size.
a live-to-stereo jazz session I did a few years back was miked with what
most of us'd consider pretty normal post-70's tight techniques for
piano
trumpet
double bass
drum kit
percussion
e-guitar/nylon guit
front vocal
BG singers

I and the client were quite pleased at the results: just this sort of
50's-60's jazz set studio room sound.

It involved nothing exotic unless you consider what I used;
very traditional (50's-60's) grouping/angling/spacing of players for
sightlines, hearing and mic-pattern isolation, and
tweaking of thr nice small hall (250 seats, large hard-faced stage) with
many large (8' x 10') reflective flats and a couple absorbant small spot
goboes (those mainly to get some isolation on the classical guitar), as
'exotic'.


If you record in an anechoic shoebox (much the norm) or if you record in a
gorgeous concert hall, unless you're using contact pickups on everything
(!???), you -WILL- hear the hall you're in.
Hopefully you CHOSE that hall and it is a Good Thing.
It's a GREAT way to do get music.

[Chris Hornbeck]

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 02:44:56 GMT, JoVee >
wrote:

>If you record in an anechoic shoebox (much the norm) or if you record in a
>gorgeous concert hall, unless you're using contact pickups on everything
>(!???), you -WILL- hear the hall you're in.
>Hopefully you CHOSE that hall and it is a Good Thing.
>It's a GREAT way to do get music.

Outta be in the f.a.q.

Chris Hornbeck

[Kurt Albershardt]

JoVee wrote:
>
> Roomy Sound does not neccessarily come from 'distant miking'.
> It more reliably comes from merely working in a good live room of some size.
> a live-to-stereo jazz session I did a few years back was miked with what
> most of us'd consider pretty normal post-70's tight techniques for
> piano
> trumpet
> double bass
> drum kit
> percussion
> e-guitar/nylon guit
> front vocal
> BG singers
>
> I and the client were quite pleased at the results: just this sort of
> 50's-60's jazz set studio room sound.
>
> It involved nothing exotic unless you consider what I used;
> very traditional (50's-60's) grouping/angling/spacing of players for
> sightlines, hearing and mic-pattern isolation, and
> tweaking of thr nice small hall (250 seats, large hard-faced stage) with
> many large (8' x 10') reflective flats and a couple absorbant small spot
> goboes (those mainly to get some isolation on the classical guitar), as
> 'exotic'.


HERETIC! You're supposed to tell them they need to buy mics/preamps/fx/software! <vbg>