Peavey VMP2 Schematic

[JOE]

> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> discontinued this product? Just curious.

That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
99%
of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought their
crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is too
busy
building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality and
customer service.

JOE

[JOE]

> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> discontinued this product? Just curious.

That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
99%
of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought their
crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is too
busy
building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality and
customer service.

JOE

[Al]

Hello RAP...

Can anybody link me to a schematic for the Peavey VMP-2 microphone preamp?

The one I'm trying to service is an early (first-year) production unit. Over
the life of the product Peavey changed the front panel graphics slightly but
I don't know if they did anything to the electronics.

Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
discontinued this product? Just curious.

Alan

[Al]

OK, I hope the VMP-2 was part of that last 1%. It seems to have held its
appeal and resale value.

Peavey gear has its place in the scheme of thing but it doesn't surprise me
that they couldn't compete in the pro recording market.

Alan



"JOE" > wrote in message
news.com...
> > Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why
Peavey
> > discontinued this product? Just curious.
>
> That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
> 99%
> of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought their
> crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is too
> busy
> building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality and
> customer service.
>
> JOE
>
>

[Al]

OK, I hope the VMP-2 was part of that last 1%. It seems to have held its
appeal and resale value.

Peavey gear has its place in the scheme of thing but it doesn't surprise me
that they couldn't compete in the pro recording market.

Alan



"JOE" > wrote in message
news.com...
> > Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why
Peavey
> > discontinued this product? Just curious.
>
> That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
> 99%
> of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought their
> crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is too
> busy
> building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality and
> customer service.
>
> JOE
>
>

[ScotFraser]

<< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
discontinued this product? Just curious. >>

I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most people
who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper preamp
than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma for
sure.


Scott Fraser

[ScotFraser]

<< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
discontinued this product? Just curious. >>

I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most people
who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper preamp
than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma for
sure.


Scott Fraser

[Harvey Gerst]

"JOE" > wrote:

>> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
>> discontinued this product? Just curious.
>
>That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
>99% of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought their
>crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is too
>busy building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality and
>customer service.
>JOE

That's just not true. Hartley happens to love the VMP2 and I know he's
seriously thinking of coming out with it again, in spite of low sales.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[Harvey Gerst]

"JOE" > wrote:

>> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
>> discontinued this product? Just curious.
>
>That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
>99% of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought their
>crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is too
>busy building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality and
>customer service.
>JOE

That's just not true. Hartley happens to love the VMP2 and I know he's
seriously thinking of coming out with it again, in spite of low sales.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[Al]

It wouldn't surprise me if a "reissued" VMP-2 would sell a lot better than
its predecessor did.

A lot of people, including many posts in this group, have spoken favorably
of it. Often with the caveat "good for its price," I'll admit. But my sense
is that the product has gotten more positive PR since being discontinued
than it received as a new product. So Peavey & Co. might find themselves
with a winner on their hands if they re-release the VMP-2... at the right
price.

Alan


"ScotFraser" > wrote in message
...
> << has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
>
> I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most
people
> who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper
preamp
> than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
> stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
for
> sure.
>
>
> Scott Fraser

[Al]

It wouldn't surprise me if a "reissued" VMP-2 would sell a lot better than
its predecessor did.

A lot of people, including many posts in this group, have spoken favorably
of it. Often with the caveat "good for its price," I'll admit. But my sense
is that the product has gotten more positive PR since being discontinued
than it received as a new product. So Peavey & Co. might find themselves
with a winner on their hands if they re-release the VMP-2... at the right
price.

Alan


"ScotFraser" > wrote in message
...
> << has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
>
> I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most
people
> who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper
preamp
> than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
> stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
for
> sure.
>
>
> Scott Fraser

[Allan Comber]

Hartley Peavey? Concerned about something other than MONEY???

hahahahaahahahahahaha


"Harvey Gerst" > wrote in message
...
> "JOE" > wrote:
>
> >> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why
Peavey
> >> discontinued this product? Just curious.
> >
> >That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
> >99% of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought
their
> >crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is
too
> >busy building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality
and
> >customer service.
> >JOE
>
> That's just not true. Hartley happens to love the VMP2 and I know he's
> seriously thinking of coming out with it again, in spite of low sales.
>
> Harvey Gerst
> Indian Trail Recording Studio
> http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[Allan Comber]

Hartley Peavey? Concerned about something other than MONEY???

hahahahaahahahahahaha


"Harvey Gerst" > wrote in message
...
> "JOE" > wrote:
>
> >> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why
Peavey
> >> discontinued this product? Just curious.
> >
> >That dates from Peavey's HORRID days of trying to break into 'pro audio'.
> >99% of what they made was complete and utter GARBAGE. No body bought
their
> >crap, and they have never made up the lost ground. Hartley Peavey is
too
> >busy building yachts to be concerned about such non-issues like quality
and
> >customer service.
> >JOE
>
> That's just not true. Hartley happens to love the VMP2 and I know he's
> seriously thinking of coming out with it again, in spite of low sales.
>
> Harvey Gerst
> Indian Trail Recording Studio
> http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[Harvey Gerst]

"Allan Comber" > wrote:

>Hartley Peavey? Concerned about something other than MONEY???
>
>hahahahaahahahahahaha

Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but Hartley has
always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his company, the people
who work there, and the products they make.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[Harvey Gerst]

"Allan Comber" > wrote:

>Hartley Peavey? Concerned about something other than MONEY???
>
>hahahahaahahahahahaha

Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but Hartley has
always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his company, the people
who work there, and the products they make.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[nuke]

<< Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but Hartley
has
always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his company, the people
who work there, and the products they make.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/
>><BR><BR>


Yup, they give a **** about their customers too. I've had FANTASTIC support
from Peavey over the years on parts, manuals, schematics and so forth. If no
one has a link, then just call Peavey on the phone on Monday and see what they
can do for you.

Way the hell better than the vast majority of the industry. Try getting almost
any other vendor on the phone (a ****ing miracle in this day and age) and ask
for a schematic or parts for a 10 year old product.

Peavey doesn't specialize in the exotic "high-end" stuff that we all drool and
dream about, it's mostly all bread and butter stuff. Every once in a while,
they make something truly exemplary and usually it's a bargain too. The VMP-2
is on that list.

I play a Peavey Bass rig that's been solid, reliable, sounds great and didn't
blow the budget either.


--
Dr. Nuketopia
Sorry, no e-Mail.
Spam forgeries have resulted in thousands of faked bounces to my address.

[nuke]

<< Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but Hartley
has
always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his company, the people
who work there, and the products they make.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/
>><BR><BR>


Yup, they give a **** about their customers too. I've had FANTASTIC support
from Peavey over the years on parts, manuals, schematics and so forth. If no
one has a link, then just call Peavey on the phone on Monday and see what they
can do for you.

Way the hell better than the vast majority of the industry. Try getting almost
any other vendor on the phone (a ****ing miracle in this day and age) and ask
for a schematic or parts for a 10 year old product.

Peavey doesn't specialize in the exotic "high-end" stuff that we all drool and
dream about, it's mostly all bread and butter stuff. Every once in a while,
they make something truly exemplary and usually it's a bargain too. The VMP-2
is on that list.

I play a Peavey Bass rig that's been solid, reliable, sounds great and didn't
blow the budget either.


--
Dr. Nuketopia
Sorry, no e-Mail.
Spam forgeries have resulted in thousands of faked bounces to my address.

[Rob Reedijk]

Al > wrote:
> I read that review and it's one of the factors that influenced my decision
> to check out the VMP-2. Thank you!
> What's funny is, I've rediscovered my VMP-2 after a couple of years of
> letting it gather dust in favor of my Millennia preamp. The Millennia sounds
> technically better but the Peavey can bring some personality to a track if
> that's what is needed.
> So my plans to trade the Peavey in for a world-class tube preamp have been
> sidetracked. I'll just save my lunch money until I can have both.
> Paul, by any chance did you ever try out Peavey's companion tube-based
> compressor? Never heard much about that one.

Well, I certainly am not in Paul's realm of credibility, but, I have both
units, and to me, the compressor is the real hidden gem. Part of that
is that the mic pre has never wowed me like seems to for others---though
I think it makes a really nice EQ if you go line level into it---and part
of it is that the compressor is so good. It really is very good.

Rob R.

[Rob Reedijk]

Al > wrote:
> I read that review and it's one of the factors that influenced my decision
> to check out the VMP-2. Thank you!
> What's funny is, I've rediscovered my VMP-2 after a couple of years of
> letting it gather dust in favor of my Millennia preamp. The Millennia sounds
> technically better but the Peavey can bring some personality to a track if
> that's what is needed.
> So my plans to trade the Peavey in for a world-class tube preamp have been
> sidetracked. I'll just save my lunch money until I can have both.
> Paul, by any chance did you ever try out Peavey's companion tube-based
> compressor? Never heard much about that one.

Well, I certainly am not in Paul's realm of credibility, but, I have both
units, and to me, the compressor is the real hidden gem. Part of that
is that the mic pre has never wowed me like seems to for others---though
I think it makes a really nice EQ if you go line level into it---and part
of it is that the compressor is so good. It really is very good.

Rob R.

[GKB]

Hey ! can anybody answer the original poster's main question
with a schematic ?
Personally i have many to trade if someone is interested .

That's SCHEMATIC , thanks

regards Greg




Al wrote:

> Hello RAP...
>
> Can anybody link me to a schematic for the Peavey VMP-2 microphone preamp?
>
> The one I'm trying to service is an early (first-year) production unit. Over
> the life of the product Peavey changed the front panel graphics slightly but
> I don't know if they did anything to the electronics.
>
> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> discontinued this product? Just curious.
>
> Alan

[GKB]

Hey ! can anybody answer the original poster's main question
with a schematic ?
Personally i have many to trade if someone is interested .

That's SCHEMATIC , thanks

regards Greg




Al wrote:

> Hello RAP...
>
> Can anybody link me to a schematic for the Peavey VMP-2 microphone preamp?
>
> The one I'm trying to service is an early (first-year) production unit. Over
> the life of the product Peavey changed the front panel graphics slightly but
> I don't know if they did anything to the electronics.
>
> Since we're on the subject, has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> discontinued this product? Just curious.
>
> Alan

[Al]

Thanks for the tip! I have a feeling the compressor would be pretty hard to
find, but it sounds like there's at least some cause to keep an eyeball out
for one.

Alan



"Rob Reedijk" > wrote in message
...
> Al > wrote:
> > I read that review and it's one of the factors that influenced my
decision
> > to check out the VMP-2. Thank you!
> > What's funny is, I've rediscovered my VMP-2 after a couple of years of
> > letting it gather dust in favor of my Millennia preamp. The Millennia
sounds
> > technically better but the Peavey can bring some personality to a track
if
> > that's what is needed.
> > So my plans to trade the Peavey in for a world-class tube preamp have
been
> > sidetracked. I'll just save my lunch money until I can have both.
> > Paul, by any chance did you ever try out Peavey's companion tube-based
> > compressor? Never heard much about that one.
>
> Well, I certainly am not in Paul's realm of credibility, but, I have both
> units, and to me, the compressor is the real hidden gem. Part of that
> is that the mic pre has never wowed me like seems to for others---though
> I think it makes a really nice EQ if you go line level into it---and part
> of it is that the compressor is so good. It really is very good.
>
> Rob R.

[Al]

Thanks for the tip! I have a feeling the compressor would be pretty hard to
find, but it sounds like there's at least some cause to keep an eyeball out
for one.

Alan



"Rob Reedijk" > wrote in message
...
> Al > wrote:
> > I read that review and it's one of the factors that influenced my
decision
> > to check out the VMP-2. Thank you!
> > What's funny is, I've rediscovered my VMP-2 after a couple of years of
> > letting it gather dust in favor of my Millennia preamp. The Millennia
sounds
> > technically better but the Peavey can bring some personality to a track
if
> > that's what is needed.
> > So my plans to trade the Peavey in for a world-class tube preamp have
been
> > sidetracked. I'll just save my lunch money until I can have both.
> > Paul, by any chance did you ever try out Peavey's companion tube-based
> > compressor? Never heard much about that one.
>
> Well, I certainly am not in Paul's realm of credibility, but, I have both
> units, and to me, the compressor is the real hidden gem. Part of that
> is that the mic pre has never wowed me like seems to for others---though
> I think it makes a really nice EQ if you go line level into it---and part
> of it is that the compressor is so good. It really is very good.
>
> Rob R.

[THERDRAIL]

<< Hey ! can anybody answer the original poster's main question
with a schematic ?
Personally i have many to trade if someone is interested .

That's SCHEMATIC , thanks

regards Greg
>><BR><BR>
Peavey will sell it to you for $2.95.
maybe plus shipping. or maybe now they would just email a .pdf.
either way a few years ago when i needed it, they were fine with getting it to
me.
email or call them

(i can't seem to find my copy, sorry)

[THERDRAIL]

<< Hey ! can anybody answer the original poster's main question
with a schematic ?
Personally i have many to trade if someone is interested .

That's SCHEMATIC , thanks

regards Greg
>><BR><BR>
Peavey will sell it to you for $2.95.
maybe plus shipping. or maybe now they would just email a .pdf.
either way a few years ago when i needed it, they were fine with getting it to
me.
email or call them

(i can't seem to find my copy, sorry)

[Paul Stamler]

"Al" > wrote in message
news:zsjsc.16925$af3.864031@attbi_s51...

> Paul, by any chance did you ever try out Peavey's companion tube-based
> compressor? Never heard much about that one.

Nope; I asked the magazine if they could get one as a followup to the preamp
review, but it never happened. I've heard nice things about it, but never
got to try one.

Peace,
Paul

[Paul Stamler]

"Al" > wrote in message
news:zsjsc.16925$af3.864031@attbi_s51...

> Paul, by any chance did you ever try out Peavey's companion tube-based
> compressor? Never heard much about that one.

Nope; I asked the magazine if they could get one as a followup to the preamp
review, but it never happened. I've heard nice things about it, but never
got to try one.

Peace,
Paul

[hank alrich]

Harvey Gerst wrote:

> "Allan Comber" wrote:

> >Hartley Peavey? Concerned about something other than MONEY???

> >hahahahaahahahahahaha

> Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but
> Hartley has always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his
> company, the people who work there, and the products they make.

And how many of these loudmouths dissing him have ever even used the
VMP2? If they had they'd STFU.

(And compared to Hartley these guys employ how many people?)

--
ha

[hank alrich]

Harvey Gerst wrote:

> "Allan Comber" wrote:

> >Hartley Peavey? Concerned about something other than MONEY???

> >hahahahaahahahahahaha

> Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but
> Hartley has always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his
> company, the people who work there, and the products they make.

And how many of these loudmouths dissing him have ever even used the
VMP2? If they had they'd STFU.

(And compared to Hartley these guys employ how many people?)

--
ha

[hank alrich]

Al wrote:

> It wouldn't surprise me if a "reissued" VMP-2 would sell a lot better than
> its predecessor did.

> A lot of people, including many posts in this group, have spoken favorably
> of it. Often with the caveat "good for its price," I'll admit. But my sense
> is that the product has gotten more positive PR since being discontinued
> than it received as a new product. So Peavey & Co. might find themselves
> with a winner on their hands if they re-release the VMP-2... at the right
> price.

If they offer a better VMP2 it will cost more than the original. Only
upgrading components is going to make it better. I doubt they're going
to move construction to rice noodle lands.

--
ha

[hank alrich]

Al wrote:

> It wouldn't surprise me if a "reissued" VMP-2 would sell a lot better than
> its predecessor did.

> A lot of people, including many posts in this group, have spoken favorably
> of it. Often with the caveat "good for its price," I'll admit. But my sense
> is that the product has gotten more positive PR since being discontinued
> than it received as a new product. So Peavey & Co. might find themselves
> with a winner on their hands if they re-release the VMP-2... at the right
> price.

If they offer a better VMP2 it will cost more than the original. Only
upgrading components is going to make it better. I doubt they're going
to move construction to rice noodle lands.

--
ha

[Al]

I'm sure you know that Audio Upgrades offers a... well, upgrade to the
VMP-2. I don't remember exactly what comprises the procedure but it came in
around $500 when I last inquired, and there were optional extra cost add-ins
available on top of that (some kind of super space-age caps, I think).

Maybe that's a ballpark figure for what a re-issued, improved VMP (VMP-3?)
could sell for: $1500.

Of course, by that time you're within striking distance of the Pendulums of
the world. Which might explain why the VMP-2 is no longer on the market.

Alan


"hank alrich" > wrote in message
...
> Al wrote:
>
> > It wouldn't surprise me if a "reissued" VMP-2 would sell a lot better
than
> > its predecessor did.
>
> > A lot of people, including many posts in this group, have spoken
favorably
> > of it. Often with the caveat "good for its price," I'll admit. But my
sense
> > is that the product has gotten more positive PR since being discontinued
> > than it received as a new product. So Peavey & Co. might find themselves
> > with a winner on their hands if they re-release the VMP-2... at the
right
> > price.
>
> If they offer a better VMP2 it will cost more than the original. Only
> upgrading components is going to make it better. I doubt they're going
> to move construction to rice noodle lands.
>
> --
> ha

[Al]

I'm sure you know that Audio Upgrades offers a... well, upgrade to the
VMP-2. I don't remember exactly what comprises the procedure but it came in
around $500 when I last inquired, and there were optional extra cost add-ins
available on top of that (some kind of super space-age caps, I think).

Maybe that's a ballpark figure for what a re-issued, improved VMP (VMP-3?)
could sell for: $1500.

Of course, by that time you're within striking distance of the Pendulums of
the world. Which might explain why the VMP-2 is no longer on the market.

Alan


"hank alrich" > wrote in message
...
> Al wrote:
>
> > It wouldn't surprise me if a "reissued" VMP-2 would sell a lot better
than
> > its predecessor did.
>
> > A lot of people, including many posts in this group, have spoken
favorably
> > of it. Often with the caveat "good for its price," I'll admit. But my
sense
> > is that the product has gotten more positive PR since being discontinued
> > than it received as a new product. So Peavey & Co. might find themselves
> > with a winner on their hands if they re-release the VMP-2... at the
right
> > price.
>
> If they offer a better VMP2 it will cost more than the original. Only
> upgrading components is going to make it better. I doubt they're going
> to move construction to rice noodle lands.
>
> --
> ha

[Richard Kuschel]

>
><< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
>discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
>
>I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most people
>who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper preamp
>than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
>stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
>for
>sure.
>
>
>Scott Fraser
>
>

The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business and
replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.

Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands to
be profitable.


Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Richard Kuschel]

>
><< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
>discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
>
>I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most people
>who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper preamp
>than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
>stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
>for
>sure.
>
>
>Scott Fraser
>
>

The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business and
replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.

Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands to
be profitable.


Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Richard Kuschel]

>
><< Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but Hartley
>has
>always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his company, the
>people
>who work there, and the products they make.
>
>Harvey Gerst
>Indian Trail Recording Studio
>http://www.ITRstudio.com/
> >>
>
>
>
>Yup, they give a **** about their customers too. I've had FANTASTIC support
>from Peavey over the years on parts, manuals, schematics and so forth. If
>no
>one has a link, then just call Peavey on the phone on Monday and see what
>they
>can do for you.
>
>Way the hell better than the vast majority of the industry. Try getting
>almost
>any other vendor on the phone (a ****ing miracle in this day and age) and
>ask
>for a schematic or parts for a 10 year old product.
>
>Peavey doesn't specialize in the exotic "high-end" stuff that we all drool
>and
>dream about, it's mostly all bread and butter stuff. Every once in a while,
>they make something truly exemplary and usually it's a bargain too. The
>VMP-2
>is on that list.
>
>I play a Peavey Bass rig that's been solid, reliable, sounds great and didn't
>blow the budget either.
>
>
>--
>Dr. Nuketopia
>Sorry, no e-Mail.
>Spam forgeries have resulted in thousands of faked bounces to my address.
>
>

I needed a grille for a long discontinued Peavey microphone (rental stock) .

They didn't have that grille in stock anymore, but sold me a grille/ mic body
that the cartridge fit into for $19. which is less than I can get a grille for
from jusr about any original manufacturer.

Some of their amplifiers such as the CS 800 and the XR600 have been very
reliable for the last 25 years.

Not the best sounding perhaps, but if the thing isn't working your output is
ZERO. '

For road band stuff I'll take reliability over that last 0.05% distortion any
day

the people that are most vocal about hating peavey gear have never used it
properly.

Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Richard Kuschel]

>
><< Look, I've never been a big fan of most of the Peavey products, but Hartley
>has
>always been a straight arrow guy who is concerned about his company, the
>people
>who work there, and the products they make.
>
>Harvey Gerst
>Indian Trail Recording Studio
>http://www.ITRstudio.com/
> >>
>
>
>
>Yup, they give a **** about their customers too. I've had FANTASTIC support
>from Peavey over the years on parts, manuals, schematics and so forth. If
>no
>one has a link, then just call Peavey on the phone on Monday and see what
>they
>can do for you.
>
>Way the hell better than the vast majority of the industry. Try getting
>almost
>any other vendor on the phone (a ****ing miracle in this day and age) and
>ask
>for a schematic or parts for a 10 year old product.
>
>Peavey doesn't specialize in the exotic "high-end" stuff that we all drool
>and
>dream about, it's mostly all bread and butter stuff. Every once in a while,
>they make something truly exemplary and usually it's a bargain too. The
>VMP-2
>is on that list.
>
>I play a Peavey Bass rig that's been solid, reliable, sounds great and didn't
>blow the budget either.
>
>
>--
>Dr. Nuketopia
>Sorry, no e-Mail.
>Spam forgeries have resulted in thousands of faked bounces to my address.
>
>

I needed a grille for a long discontinued Peavey microphone (rental stock) .

They didn't have that grille in stock anymore, but sold me a grille/ mic body
that the cartridge fit into for $19. which is less than I can get a grille for
from jusr about any original manufacturer.

Some of their amplifiers such as the CS 800 and the XR600 have been very
reliable for the last 25 years.

Not the best sounding perhaps, but if the thing isn't working your output is
ZERO. '

For road band stuff I'll take reliability over that last 0.05% distortion any
day

the people that are most vocal about hating peavey gear have never used it
properly.

Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Al]

I suspect both parts of your answer explain why the VMP-2 is off the market.

But the second part explains why a VMP reissue is unlikely. Unless it took
our little piece of the market by storm, a new VMP would be a low-runner.
Not Peavey's game.

What they need to do is license the VMP to a smaller manufacturer who could
operate on a scale commensurate with the market size. New name, new image.
Even then, one wonders whether the end product could come in low enough
(price-wise) to carve out a place for itself.

Alan


"Richard Kuschel" > wrote in message
...
> >
> ><< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> >discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
> >
> >I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most
people
> >who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper
preamp
> >than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
> >stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
> >for
> >sure.
> >
> >
> >Scott Fraser
> >
> >
>
> The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of
business and
> replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.
>
> Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the
thousands to
> be profitable.
>
>
> Richard H. Kuschel
> "I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Al]

I suspect both parts of your answer explain why the VMP-2 is off the market.

But the second part explains why a VMP reissue is unlikely. Unless it took
our little piece of the market by storm, a new VMP would be a low-runner.
Not Peavey's game.

What they need to do is license the VMP to a smaller manufacturer who could
operate on a scale commensurate with the market size. New name, new image.
Even then, one wonders whether the end product could come in low enough
(price-wise) to carve out a place for itself.

Alan


"Richard Kuschel" > wrote in message
...
> >
> ><< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
> >discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
> >
> >I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most
people
> >who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper
preamp
> >than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
> >stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
> >for
> >sure.
> >
> >
> >Scott Fraser
> >
> >
>
> The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of
business and
> replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.
>
> Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the
thousands to
> be profitable.
>
>
> Richard H. Kuschel
> "I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[S O'Neill]

Richard Kuschel wrote:

> For road band stuff I'll take reliability over that last 0.05% distortion any
> day


I had to chuckle on that one. I had to work on several Peaveys when they were
new. Power and output transformers pop-riveted onto a beer-can thin aluminum
chassis. I've heard they've gotten better, but I still choke at the thought.
I've seen a Fender fall 8 feet onto its side and keep working.

[S O'Neill]

Richard Kuschel wrote:

> For road band stuff I'll take reliability over that last 0.05% distortion any
> day


I had to chuckle on that one. I had to work on several Peaveys when they were
new. Power and output transformers pop-riveted onto a beer-can thin aluminum
chassis. I've heard they've gotten better, but I still choke at the thought.
I've seen a Fender fall 8 feet onto its side and keep working.

[ScotFraser]

<< What they need to do is license the VMP to a smaller manufacturer who could
operate on a scale commensurate with the market size. New name, new image. >>

New freaking panel graphics, please!


Scott Fraser

[ScotFraser]

<< What they need to do is license the VMP to a smaller manufacturer who could
operate on a scale commensurate with the market size. New name, new image. >>

New freaking panel graphics, please!


Scott Fraser

[ScotFraser]

<< Some of their amplifiers such as the CS 800 and the XR600 have been very
reliable for the last 25 years.
>>

I guess, but they tend to run really hot & be susceptible to ground issues.
OTOH I looked into a guy's rack once & noticed the hot speaker terminal of a
CS800 shorting against a rack rail, arcing enough to perform spot welds, &
although it wasn't passing audio in this condition, it didn't blow up. When I
rectified the wiring & repowered, it did the remainder of the gig fine.


Scott Fraser

[ScotFraser]

<< Some of their amplifiers such as the CS 800 and the XR600 have been very
reliable for the last 25 years.
>>

I guess, but they tend to run really hot & be susceptible to ground issues.
OTOH I looked into a guy's rack once & noticed the hot speaker terminal of a
CS800 shorting against a rack rail, arcing enough to perform spot welds, &
although it wasn't passing audio in this condition, it didn't blow up. When I
rectified the wiring & repowered, it did the remainder of the gig fine.


Scott Fraser

[ScotFraser]

<< I've seen a Fender fall 8 feet onto its side and keep working. >>

Weren't the Fender pro power amps made by Ramsa? They looked to be built like
battleships.


Scott Fraser

[ScotFraser]

<< I've seen a Fender fall 8 feet onto its side and keep working. >>

Weren't the Fender pro power amps made by Ramsa? They looked to be built like
battleships.


Scott Fraser

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>><< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
>>discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
>>
>>I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most people
>>who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper preamp
>>than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
>>stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
>>for
>>sure.
>
>The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business and
>replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.

No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.

>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands to
>be profitable.

Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high end
small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
in Japan).
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>><< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
>>discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
>>
>>I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most people
>>who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper preamp
>>than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
>>stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
>>for
>>sure.
>
>The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business and
>replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.

No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.

>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands to
>be profitable.

Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high end
small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
in Japan).
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>><< has anybody heard a credible reason why Peavey
>>discontinued this product? Just curious. >>
>>
>>I'm betting they didn't make enough money to justify the effort. Most people
>>who normally are drawn to the Peavey mark are wanting a much cheaper preamp
>>than the VMP2, & most people who want a decent all tube pro preamp can't
>>stomach having something in the studio that says Peavey on it. A dilemma
>>for
>>sure.
>
>The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business and
>replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.

No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.

>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands to
>be profitable.

Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high end
small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
in Japan).
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Wayne]

>>The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business
>and
>>replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.
>
>No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
>Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.
>
>>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands
>to
>>be profitable.
>
>Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high end
>small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
>keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
>in Japan).
>--scott
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>

Big difference in the business mind set between the Japanese and Americans.
Everything over here is short term return (30 days or less) with very little
vision for the future. It really is sad to understand how well we did - -until
we had competition. Real world economics has strangled our economy 'cause we
have a difficult time competing. Great innovations - poor implementation. We
got to do better.


--Wayne

-"sounded good to me"-

[Wayne]

>>The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business
>and
>>replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.
>
>No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
>Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.
>
>>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands
>to
>>be profitable.
>
>Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high end
>small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
>keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
>in Japan).
>--scott
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>

Big difference in the business mind set between the Japanese and Americans.
Everything over here is short term return (30 days or less) with very little
vision for the future. It really is sad to understand how well we did - -until
we had competition. Real world economics has strangled our economy 'cause we
have a difficult time competing. Great innovations - poor implementation. We
got to do better.


--Wayne

-"sounded good to me"-

[Wayne]

>>The company that built the transformers for the preamp went out of business
>and
>>replacements would have been prohibitatively expensive.
>
>No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
>Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.
>
>>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands
>to
>>be profitable.
>
>Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high end
>small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
>keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
>in Japan).
>--scott
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>

Big difference in the business mind set between the Japanese and Americans.
Everything over here is short term return (30 days or less) with very little
vision for the future. It really is sad to understand how well we did - -until
we had competition. Real world economics has strangled our economy 'cause we
have a difficult time competing. Great innovations - poor implementation. We
got to do better.


--Wayne

-"sounded good to me"-

[Richard Kuschel]

>
>No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
>Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.
>
>>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands
>to
>>be profitable.
>
>Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high
>end
>small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
>keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
>in Japan).
>--scott
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
>
>

Yes, Reichenbachs, but who knows what Peavey paid for them?

Sony is a company that is known for good and highend gear that still produces a
lot of crap.

Peavey is reputed to produce crap, and can never break into that high end
market due to reputation, no matter how well the gear works.




Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Richard Kuschel]

>
>No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
>Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.
>
>>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands
>to
>>be profitable.
>
>Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high
>end
>small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
>keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
>in Japan).
>--scott
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
>
>

Yes, Reichenbachs, but who knows what Peavey paid for them?

Sony is a company that is known for good and highend gear that still produces a
lot of crap.

Peavey is reputed to produce crap, and can never break into that high end
market due to reputation, no matter how well the gear works.




Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Richard Kuschel]

>
>No more expensive than the originals, I don't think. Weren't they using
>Reichenbach transformers? Those things were not cheap to begin with.
>
>>Peavey is a company that looks at a product that must sell in the thousands
>to
>>be profitable.
>
>Yes, but they might take a look at Sony. Sony has a number of very high
>end
>small-production products, most of which are only for sale in Japan. This
>keeps their designers happy and it does a lot of their reputation (at least
>in Japan).
>--scott
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
>
>

Yes, Reichenbachs, but who knows what Peavey paid for them?

Sony is a company that is known for good and highend gear that still produces a
lot of crap.

Peavey is reputed to produce crap, and can never break into that high end
market due to reputation, no matter how well the gear works.




Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>
>Yes, Reichenbachs, but who knows what Peavey paid for them?

Dunno, but if they can make a deal with Reichenbach, they can make a deal
with Lundahl or Cine-Mag.

>Sony is a company that is known for good and highend gear that still produces a
>lot of crap.

Yes, and they cultivate that reputation very carefully so they don't get
known for making crap.

>Peavey is reputed to produce crap, and can never break into that high end
>market due to reputation, no matter how well the gear works.

Absolutely, although they do seem to be doing remarkably well breaking into
the installed sound market. The AMR is an example of how Peavey allowed
their reputation to kill off quality products. If they launched a seperate
line with a different name, I think they could do well, but Hartley will never
allow this.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>
>Yes, Reichenbachs, but who knows what Peavey paid for them?

Dunno, but if they can make a deal with Reichenbach, they can make a deal
with Lundahl or Cine-Mag.

>Sony is a company that is known for good and highend gear that still produces a
>lot of crap.

Yes, and they cultivate that reputation very carefully so they don't get
known for making crap.

>Peavey is reputed to produce crap, and can never break into that high end
>market due to reputation, no matter how well the gear works.

Absolutely, although they do seem to be doing remarkably well breaking into
the installed sound market. The AMR is an example of how Peavey allowed
their reputation to kill off quality products. If they launched a seperate
line with a different name, I think they could do well, but Hartley will never
allow this.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>
>Yes, Reichenbachs, but who knows what Peavey paid for them?

Dunno, but if they can make a deal with Reichenbach, they can make a deal
with Lundahl or Cine-Mag.

>Sony is a company that is known for good and highend gear that still produces a
>lot of crap.

Yes, and they cultivate that reputation very carefully so they don't get
known for making crap.

>Peavey is reputed to produce crap, and can never break into that high end
>market due to reputation, no matter how well the gear works.

Absolutely, although they do seem to be doing remarkably well breaking into
the installed sound market. The AMR is an example of how Peavey allowed
their reputation to kill off quality products. If they launched a seperate
line with a different name, I think they could do well, but Hartley will never
allow this.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[NewYorkDave]

Got this directly off Peavey's website:
-----------------------------------------
Note: Owners manuals and schematics, not available on the website, may
be obtained by mail (via check or money order) or by phone (via credit
card). Schematics are $2.50 per copy, owners manuals are $7.50 (paper
back) / $20.00 (notebook).

Send Check/Money order to: Peavey Electronics, Parts Department, PO
Box 412 Hwy 11 and 80, Meridian, MS 39301. Credit Card orders phone:
(601) 483-5365. This applies to US and Canadian residents only.
Outside the US or Canada please contact your nearest Peavey
distributor.
--------------------------------------

$2.50? Not bad at all!

By the way, I have to put in a good word for the oft-maligned Peavey.
I don't use any of their stuff nowadays, but I was glad for their
affordable, reliable guitar amps (like the Bandit) when I was starting
out. The tone may not have been stellar, but the amp never let me
down, gig after gig. They were priced low enough that most kids (or
their parents) could afford them. Also, when I worked in the repair
business, I always found PV very cooperative regarding parts,
schematics, tech support, etc., which is more than I can say for many
other manufacturers.

[NewYorkDave]

Got this directly off Peavey's website:
-----------------------------------------
Note: Owners manuals and schematics, not available on the website, may
be obtained by mail (via check or money order) or by phone (via credit
card). Schematics are $2.50 per copy, owners manuals are $7.50 (paper
back) / $20.00 (notebook).

Send Check/Money order to: Peavey Electronics, Parts Department, PO
Box 412 Hwy 11 and 80, Meridian, MS 39301. Credit Card orders phone:
(601) 483-5365. This applies to US and Canadian residents only.
Outside the US or Canada please contact your nearest Peavey
distributor.
--------------------------------------

$2.50? Not bad at all!

By the way, I have to put in a good word for the oft-maligned Peavey.
I don't use any of their stuff nowadays, but I was glad for their
affordable, reliable guitar amps (like the Bandit) when I was starting
out. The tone may not have been stellar, but the amp never let me
down, gig after gig. They were priced low enough that most kids (or
their parents) could afford them. Also, when I worked in the repair
business, I always found PV very cooperative regarding parts,
schematics, tech support, etc., which is more than I can say for many
other manufacturers.

[NewYorkDave]

Got this directly off Peavey's website:
-----------------------------------------
Note: Owners manuals and schematics, not available on the website, may
be obtained by mail (via check or money order) or by phone (via credit
card). Schematics are $2.50 per copy, owners manuals are $7.50 (paper
back) / $20.00 (notebook).

Send Check/Money order to: Peavey Electronics, Parts Department, PO
Box 412 Hwy 11 and 80, Meridian, MS 39301. Credit Card orders phone:
(601) 483-5365. This applies to US and Canadian residents only.
Outside the US or Canada please contact your nearest Peavey
distributor.
--------------------------------------

$2.50? Not bad at all!

By the way, I have to put in a good word for the oft-maligned Peavey.
I don't use any of their stuff nowadays, but I was glad for their
affordable, reliable guitar amps (like the Bandit) when I was starting
out. The tone may not have been stellar, but the amp never let me
down, gig after gig. They were priced low enough that most kids (or
their parents) could afford them. Also, when I worked in the repair
business, I always found PV very cooperative regarding parts,
schematics, tech support, etc., which is more than I can say for many
other manufacturers.

[S O'Neill]

ScotFraser wrote:
> << I've seen a Fender fall 8 feet onto its side and keep working. >>
>
> Weren't the Fender pro power amps made by Ramsa? They looked to be built like
> battleships.


I was referring to guitar amps.

[S O'Neill]

ScotFraser wrote:
> << I've seen a Fender fall 8 feet onto its side and keep working. >>
>
> Weren't the Fender pro power amps made by Ramsa? They looked to be built like
> battleships.


I was referring to guitar amps.

[S O'Neill]

ScotFraser wrote:
> << I've seen a Fender fall 8 feet onto its side and keep working. >>
>
> Weren't the Fender pro power amps made by Ramsa? They looked to be built like
> battleships.


I was referring to guitar amps.