What motivates chronic noise makers?

[Enough Already]

Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
(unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
you have so little conscience about it?

I keep hearing that bikers are actually "nice people" and subwoofer
addicts are "just kids having fun." But nice people don't knowingly
rob citizens of the right to peace, quiet and unbroken sleep in their
homes, then top it off by getting defiant about it when questioned.
Decent people don't make all that noise in the _first place_, and if
they do it out of genuine misunderstanding, they don't KEEP doing it
when people ask them (politely at first, which rarely works) to stop.

CAR BOOMERS: Do you think you'll get more girls if you play "badass"
thumpin' music, or is it a way of telling other thugs that you own a
particular territory (like a dog ****ing on a phone pole)? People who
live in the neighborhood and pay taxes for the streets should just put
up with it, right? And if they don't, you'll slash their tires?
Audio-wise, true music fans know that boom bass drowns out clarity.
You can't project 30hz for three blocks and get balanced, clean sound.
We who are subjected to it know that's never been your real motive.

HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes or
prove a point that "cager" society needs to understand? Is it part of
your worldview that anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle lacks
fundamental coolness, and is too uptight about the racket you make?
When you sit and idle your bikes for many minutes is it weak oil
circulation, poor timing, or something else? In relatively modern
engines, most idling (beyond the stall point) is pointless wear,
especially if you have no A/C to run. You're doing it for other
reasons, aren't you?

These questions don't apply to those who limit their noise to areas
where the public is unaffected, so let's not go off on the old
"blanket-labeling" tangent to distract from this nationwide problem.

I'm talking about the thousands, if not millions of boomers and
pipe-farters who _knowingly_ and _willingly_ disturb the peace. WHY do
you do it? Saying that cars can't hear you without extreme pipes is a
clever self-serving defense, but it can't be the main reason. I think
you mostly want people to see you as rebels; the endless high-school
mentality. Saying that boom bass is free speech or a diversion for
youth who might become criminals without a "hobby" doesn't cut it
either. Plenty of hobbies are far less obnoxious. Obnoxious people are
drawn to disruptive activities, so it's about YOU, not just what you
"happen" to enjoy.

What are your TRUE motives for trashing others' quality of life in
their own homes, especially at night when they need to sleep? Let's
get at least one honest answer here, please.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[CyclePrick]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
m...
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
> purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
> latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
> frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do

Because I ****en can!
snip

--
CyclePrick
Girly Bike Rider Extraodinaire
67 XL Bought in 69 sold in 89
89 1200 XL w/mountain motor sold 02
03 1200 Custom

[Spunky The Tuna]

(Enough Already) wrote:

> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
> purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
> latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
> frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
> you have so little conscience about it?


It's personal.

We do it just to **** you off. We're going to continue to do it until your
daughter reaches puberty and then we're going to grab her off the street
and when we're done passing her around until she can only manage to fart
bassoon notes we're going to sell her to somebody in the Middle East who'll
lease her out as an after dinner mint.

We've already all had your wife, your dog, and have shown your 11 year old
son where all the porn sites are.

Face it, Snookums, you're screwed.

--
wolfpup AKA Spunky the Tuna
AH #62 DOF #R BS #69 SENS LSMFT PDQ EIEIO AEIOU

Sometimes I can’t believe I post this stuff with a straight face

[Schmoe]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
m...
>snip>

> HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes or
> prove a point that "cager" society needs to understand? Is it part of
> your worldview that anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle lacks
> fundamental coolness, and is too uptight about the racket you make?
> When you sit and idle your bikes for many minutes is it weak oil
> circulation, poor timing, or something else? In relatively modern
> engines, most idling (beyond the stall point) is pointless wear,
> especially if you have no A/C to run. You're doing it for other
> reasons, aren't you?
>
<snip>

You know, you've raised some very important and valid points. Now I've
thought out a carefully developed answer for you to ponder and respond to.
Please page down a bit...
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
SHUT THE **** UP YOU ****ING **** ****

[hawgeye]

"Enough Already" > wrote...
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.

You forgot whining tree-huggers!

[Tom]

Enough Already wrote:

> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.

> WHY do you do it and why do you have so little conscience about it?

Because the whole ****in' world is full of idiots like you who bug the
**** out of me.You bug me, so therefore I have the right to bug you. So
stick it up your ass.

Tell you what, I'll ride a quiet bike if and when they shut down the
telemarketers that ring MY phone in MY house when nobody told them they
could.

Tom

[Wayne Fernandez]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
m...
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.

whack the rest since I just read enough bull****

1. Find a rope

2. **** up it

3. Explain to mommy why your pants and shirt are all wet

--

MWF AH 52
The road goes on forever

[Don T.]

"hawgeye" > wrote in message
et...
> "Enough Already" > wrote...
> > Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> > (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.
>
> You forgot whining tree-huggers!
>

I am more concerned about the whining tree-humpers. They get noisy enough to
get your attension.

Don T- Talk about trying to get a mind pic out of your mind.

[AH#104]

Enough Already wrote:
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the
>biggest sources of gratuitous (unnecessary)
>noise pollution in America.

There.
Now isn't THAT a much better troll? Yours was much too long... and boring.

1.275

--
ASSHOLE #104 Len

[Steve Mackay]

Enough Already wrote:
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.

No, it's most likely your endless whining.

>Other noise-makers like
> planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
> purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
> latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
> frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
> you have so little conscience about it?

Because it's my right as an American to do so. Who the **** are you to
question it?

> I keep hearing that bikers are actually "nice people" and subwoofer
> addicts are "just kids having fun." But nice people don't knowingly
> rob citizens of the right to peace, quiet and unbroken sleep in their
> homes, then top it off by getting defiant about it when questioned.
> Decent people don't make all that noise in the _first place_, and if
> they do it out of genuine misunderstanding, they don't KEEP doing it
> when people ask them (politely at first, which rarely works) to stop.

Decent people wouldn't ask me to give up my rights either.

> CAR BOOMERS: Do you think you'll get more girls if you play "badass"
> thumpin' music, or is it a way of telling other thugs that you own a
> particular territory (like a dog ****ing on a phone pole)? People who
> live in the neighborhood and pay taxes for the streets should just put
> up with it, right? And if they don't, you'll slash their tires?
> Audio-wise, true music fans know that boom bass drowns out clarity.
> You can't project 30hz for three blocks and get balanced, clean sound.
> We who are subjected to it know that's never been your real motive.

> HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes

Only you. I've never heard ONE single complaint from my neighbors. And I
leave for work many mornings at 4:30AM.

> or
> prove a point that "cager" society needs to understand? Is it part of
> your worldview that anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle lacks
> fundamental coolness, and is too uptight about the racket you make?

It's my right to make that noise. Who the **** are you to question it?

> When you sit and idle your bikes for many minutes is it weak oil
> circulation, poor timing, or something else? In relatively modern
> engines, most idling (beyond the stall point) is pointless wear,
> especially if you have no A/C to run. You're doing it for other
> reasons, aren't you?
>
> These questions don't apply to those who limit their noise to areas
> where the public is unaffected, so let's not go off on the old
> "blanket-labeling" tangent to distract from this nationwide problem.
>
> I'm talking about the thousands, if not millions of boomers and
> pipe-farters who _knowingly_ and _willingly_ disturb the peace.

And it's absolutely no difference than your post here. You _KNOWINGLY_
posted this to get someone's undies in a bundle. So how are *YOU* any
different?

> WHY do
> you do it?

Why did you write this post?

>Saying that cars can't hear you without extreme pipes is a
> clever self-serving defense, but it can't be the main reason. I think
> you mostly want people to see you as rebels; the endless high-school
> mentality. Saying that boom bass is free speech or a diversion for
> youth who might become criminals without a "hobby" doesn't cut it
> either. Plenty of hobbies are far less obnoxious.

I'm sorry if we don't take up your favorite past time of knitting.

> Obnoxious people are
> drawn to disruptive activities, so it's about YOU, not just what you
> "happen" to enjoy.
>
> What are your TRUE motives for trashing others' quality of life in
> their own homes, especially at night when they need to sleep? Let's
> get at least one honest answer here, please.

You got it. Just because you wont like the answers(which I'm sure you wont),
doesn't make them dishonest.

>
> E.A.
>
> http://enough_already.tripod.com/
> If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[snowdundr]

> Enough Already wrote:
> > Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> > (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.
>

From your own site....

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand
Russell)

Zippy, you don't seem doubtful in your gratuitously sweeping
generalizations.

Tim

[Mase]

Heh, I just bought my 2003 sportster s, read this and decided it was
time to go ahead and purchase the cycle shack slip-ons!

Thanks man!

Enough Already wrote:
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
> purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
> latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
> frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
> you have so little conscience about it?
>
> I keep hearing that bikers are actually "nice people" and subwoofer
> addicts are "just kids having fun." But nice people don't knowingly
> rob citizens of the right to peace, quiet and unbroken sleep in their
> homes, then top it off by getting defiant about it when questioned.
> Decent people don't make all that noise in the _first place_, and if
> they do it out of genuine misunderstanding, they don't KEEP doing it
> when people ask them (politely at first, which rarely works) to stop.
>
> CAR BOOMERS: Do you think you'll get more girls if you play "badass"
> thumpin' music, or is it a way of telling other thugs that you own a
> particular territory (like a dog ****ing on a phone pole)? People who
> live in the neighborhood and pay taxes for the streets should just put
> up with it, right? And if they don't, you'll slash their tires?
> Audio-wise, true music fans know that boom bass drowns out clarity.
> You can't project 30hz for three blocks and get balanced, clean sound.
> We who are subjected to it know that's never been your real motive.
>
> HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes or
> prove a point that "cager" society needs to understand? Is it part of
> your worldview that anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle lacks
> fundamental coolness, and is too uptight about the racket you make?
> When you sit and idle your bikes for many minutes is it weak oil
> circulation, poor timing, or something else? In relatively modern
> engines, most idling (beyond the stall point) is pointless wear,
> especially if you have no A/C to run. You're doing it for other
> reasons, aren't you?
>
> These questions don't apply to those who limit their noise to areas
> where the public is unaffected, so let's not go off on the old
> "blanket-labeling" tangent to distract from this nationwide problem.
>
> I'm talking about the thousands, if not millions of boomers and
> pipe-farters who _knowingly_ and _willingly_ disturb the peace. WHY do
> you do it? Saying that cars can't hear you without extreme pipes is a
> clever self-serving defense, but it can't be the main reason. I think
> you mostly want people to see you as rebels; the endless high-school
> mentality. Saying that boom bass is free speech or a diversion for
> youth who might become criminals without a "hobby" doesn't cut it
> either. Plenty of hobbies are far less obnoxious. Obnoxious people are
> drawn to disruptive activities, so it's about YOU, not just what you
> "happen" to enjoy.
>
> What are your TRUE motives for trashing others' quality of life in
> their own homes, especially at night when they need to sleep? Let's
> get at least one honest answer here, please.
>
> E.A.
>
> http://enough_already.tripod.com/
> If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[Tony Fernandes]

I myself think it's VERY inconsiderate to boom your stereo in a residential
area...regardless of the time of day. Have I done it before? Yes...when I
was 16. I'm 32 now and have a much nicer, louder system, but I try very
hard not to disturb others with it.

It's people like you guys that obviously don't care about anyone else but
themselves that bring it upon yourselves when cities start creating car
stereo ordinances. Then you moan and complain that the f-ing cops are out
there harassing you. Believe me guys, even though you obviously outnumber
myself and Enough Already on this board, it's not that way in real life.

And as far as exhaust noise goes? Most states have laws regarding excessive
noise in this regard. So for the person that posted that he's an American
and has the right to do anything they want....get a clue & grow up.

I personally have more tolerance than Enough Already for these sorts of
noises, but just because I do doesn't mean others do as well.

Have some respect.

Tony


--


What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the
universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that
he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't
have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact

[Schmoe]

"Tony Fernandes" > wrote in message
...
> I myself think it's VERY inconsiderate to boom your stereo in a
residential
> area...regardless of the time of day. Have I done it before? Yes...when
I
> was 16. I'm 32 now and have a much nicer, louder system, but I try very
> hard not to disturb others with it.
>
> It's people like you guys that obviously don't care about anyone else but
> themselves that bring it upon yourselves when cities start creating car
> stereo ordinances. Then you moan and complain that the f-ing cops are out
> there harassing you. Believe me guys, even though you obviously outnumber
> myself and Enough Already on this board, it's not that way in real life.
>
> And as far as exhaust noise goes? Most states have laws regarding
excessive
> noise in this regard. So for the person that posted that he's an American
> and has the right to do anything they want....get a clue & grow up.
>
> I personally have more tolerance than Enough Already for these sorts of
> noises, but just because I do doesn't mean others do as well.
>
> Have some respect.

You're right. Let me buy you a nice, fresh cup of shut the **** up. Where do
you live so we can bring a fresh cup over on my too ****ing loud moped.

[GuitarMan]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
m...

enough already! go away!

[Steve Mackay]

Tony Fernandes wrote:
> I myself think it's VERY inconsiderate to boom your stereo in a
> residential area...regardless of the time of day. Have I done it
> before? Yes...when I was 16. I'm 32 now and have a much nicer,
> louder system, but I try very hard not to disturb others with it.
>
> It's people like you guys that obviously don't care about anyone else
> but themselves that bring it upon yourselves when cities start
> creating car stereo ordinances. Then you moan and complain that the
> f-ing cops are out there harassing you. Believe me guys, even though
> you obviously outnumber myself and Enough Already on this board, it's
> not that way in real life.
>
> And as far as exhaust noise goes? Most states have laws regarding
> excessive noise in this regard. So for the person that posted that
> he's an American and has the right to do anything they want....get a
> clue & grow up.

As soon as I *EVER* get pulled over for exhaust, I'll throw the 'quiet'
baffles in mine. Which btw would be pretty much never, living about 20
minutes from the HD factory. There were 1/4 million+ bikes here a few weeks
ago for the 100th. The noise was non stop, ya think people whined about it?
Nope... ****, there were 10,000+ camped about a mile from me. Woke my kid up
a few times, big deal, I'll get over it. I don't especially like the 'boom
boom' rattle boxes that these kids like these days(ya know, it takes more
than a coupla' 12"ers slaped in a car to make 'decent' base, I wish these
kids realized that), but I don't go around whining about it, and I wont take
their right to go deaf either...




> I personally have more tolerance than Enough Already for these sorts
> of noises, but just because I do doesn't mean others do as well.
>
> Have some respect.
>
> Tony

[Paul Vina]

>I wish these
> kids realized that), but I don't go around whining about it, and I wont
take
> their right to go deaf either...


So loud music will make you go deaf but not a loud exhaust? That's logical
thinking. Must have been riding too many rigid.

Paul Vina

[Irv]

"Paul Vina" > wrote in message
news:3x4db.591875$YN5.432947@sccrnsc01...
> >I wish these
> > kids realized that), but I don't go around whining about it, and I wont
> take
> > their right to go deaf either...
>
>
> So loud music will make you go deaf but not a loud exhaust? That's
logical
> thinking. Must have been riding too many rigid.

Doing 90mph down the freeway....I don't hear a thing.

--
Steve Irving (Irv)

2002 FXSTDI (Moby)
1997 Honda Shadow VT1100C2 ACE
1971 Honda CB350
1967 Kawasaki Samurai 250 (RIP)
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you
win you're still retarded.
Gator Navy 1971 - 1975 USS Duluth LPD-6
http://www.nite.com/bike.html

[Steve Mackay]

Paul Vina wrote:
>> I wish these
>> kids realized that), but I don't go around whining about it, and I
>> wont take their right to go deaf either...
>
>
> So loud music will make you go deaf but not a loud exhaust? That's
> logical thinking. Must have been riding too many rigid.
>
> Paul Vina

I guess you've never sat in one of those 'boom boom' cars, eh?

[Denny]

****in' off a self-righteous trolling muther****er like you is about
all the motivation I need. Anyway, you wouldn't know a Harley from an
Indian from a Honda ... even if I shoved one up yer ass.

------
Denny
'02 FLHR

[Paul Vina]

I have. I used to build them for customers. I was just saying it's pretty
hypocritical to say that cars with a lot of bass will make you go deaf and a
loud exhaust won't.
BTW, it's loud midrange that will damage your hearing, not loud bass.


Paul Vina


"Steve Mackay" > wrote in message
...
> Paul Vina wrote:
> >> I wish these
> >> kids realized that), but I don't go around whining about it, and I
> >> wont take their right to go deaf either...
> >
> >
> > So loud music will make you go deaf but not a loud exhaust? That's
> > logical thinking. Must have been riding too many rigid.
> >
> > Paul Vina
>
> I guess you've never sat in one of those 'boom boom' cars, eh?
>
>

[Jordon]

Enough Already wrote...

> HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes

Nope, just you. Is it working?

[Dash1Bravo]

(Enough Already) wrote in message >...

*snip the prologue*
>
> What are your TRUE motives for trashing others' quality of life in
> their own homes, especially at night when they need to sleep? Let's
> get at least one honest answer here, please.
>
> E.A.


So, if I read correctly, the justification for most of the responders
can be summed up like this:

"****, **** ya' ****in' ****. ****in' I got my rights, ya ****,
****in' **** ****. Quit yer' ****in' whinin' ya' ****ity **** ****.

****. ****. ****. 'Cause I can. ****. ****. ****."

Millions of years of human evolution, and this is the best you can
come up with? At least I won't feel so bad the next time I (oops) cut
off a harley rider who's straddling custom pipes. I'll just chalk it
up to Darwin's thoughts on culling the herd of the useless and stupid.

Too bad they haven't figured out how to chrome a clue, because the
harley crowd might finally be interested in buying something useful
for a change.

Dash1Bravo

[Irv]

"Dash1Bravo" > wrote in message
m...
> (Enough Already) wrote in message
>...
>
> *snip the prologue*
> >
> > What are your TRUE motives for trashing others' quality of life in
> > their own homes, especially at night when they need to sleep? Let's
> > get at least one honest answer here, please.
> >
> > E.A.
>
>
> So, if I read correctly, the justification for most of the responders
> can be summed up like this:
>
> "****, **** ya' ****in' ****. ****in' I got my rights, ya ****,
> ****in' **** ****. Quit yer' ****in' whinin' ya' ****ity **** ****.
>
> ****. ****. ****. 'Cause I can. ****. ****. ****."
>
> Millions of years of human evolution, and this is the best you can
> come up with? At least I won't feel so bad the next time I (oops) cut
> off a harley rider who's straddling custom pipes. I'll just chalk it
> up to Darwin's thoughts on culling the herd of the useless and stupid.
>
> Too bad they haven't figured out how to chrome a clue, because the
> harley crowd might finally be interested in buying something useful
> for a change.

****.....

--
Steve Irving (Irv)

2002 FXSTDI (Moby)
1997 Honda Shadow VT1100C2 ACE
1971 Honda CB350
1967 Kawasaki Samurai 250 (RIP)
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you
win you're still retarded.
Gator Navy 1971 - 1975 USS Duluth LPD-6
http://www.nite.com/bike.html

[Steve Mackay]

Paul Vina wrote:
> I have. I used to build them for customers. I was just saying it's
> pretty hypocritical to say that cars with a lot of bass will make you
> go deaf and a loud exhaust won't.
> BTW, it's loud midrange that will damage your hearing, not loud bass.
>
>
> Paul Vina

Then you've never bothered to ride a Harley. Even with 'open' drag pipes,
your hearing isn't going to be affected.

>
> "Steve Mackay" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Paul Vina wrote:
>>>> I wish these
>>>> kids realized that), but I don't go around whining about it, and I
>>>> wont take their right to go deaf either...
>>>
>>>
>>> So loud music will make you go deaf but not a loud exhaust? That's
>>> logical thinking. Must have been riding too many rigid.
>>>
>>> Paul Vina
>>
>> I guess you've never sat in one of those 'boom boom' cars, eh?

[AH#104]

danielc sed:
> You cut me off on purpose you better light
>the throttle and outrun me before I get your
>license plate.

Because I *will* leave a nasty note on your windshield!

(_104_)

[Daniel Snooks]

Spunky The Tuna wrote
> Face it, Snookums, you're screwed.

How did I get tangled up in all this !?!

--
Regards,
Dan Snooks

sniff ... here I am just trying to create sonic perfection and all I get is
grief :-(

[Don T.]

"AH#104" > wrote in message
...
> danielc sed:
> > You cut me off on purpose you better light
> >the throttle and outrun me before I get your
> >license plate.
>
> Because I *will* leave a nasty note on your windshield!
>

Well, I will rub my pecker on his doorhandle and when he opens his door, I
will jump out of the bushes laughing and yelling "Smell your hand, smell
your hand!!!!!"

Don T.- That will teach them.

[Enough Already]

(Denny) wrote in message >...

> ****in' off a self-righteous trolling muther****er like you is about
> all the motivation I need. Anyway, you wouldn't know a Harley from an
> Indian from a Honda ... even if I shoved one up yer ass.

Well, it looks like I've reached the highly reasonable, non-selfish
audience I was aiming for. Not a single comment on the noise issue, I
see. Afraid of the truth, eh?

But I'm sure bikers are "great people once you get to know them." At
least as long as you don't question ANYTHING they do, since they are
God's chosen ones and can make all the noise they see fit to at all
hours.

And if you dare complain about the noise, you'll get yelled at or have
your tires slashed, or worse. Real decent folks, yes indeed. It's
great to see the biker reputation for courtesy and respect bolstered
once again.


E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague (on
wheels).

[Roach]

"Enough Already" > wrote

a bunch of bull-****.

**** you, you tree-hugging liberal do-gooding piece of socialist
****.

But I don't mean that in a bad sort of a way.


--
Roach - aka "La-Kook-A-Roccia"
PhillyHoodlum©#2, BS#196, DOF#yes MANS, SENS
'98FXDirty "DeerSlinger"
"Peace Out!", In Memory of Hoodlum©#20

[Enough Already]

Spunky The Tuna > wrote in message >...

> (Enough Already) wrote:
>
> > Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> > (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> > planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> > of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
> > purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
> > latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
> > frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
> > you have so little conscience about it?
>
>
> It's personal.
>
> We do it just to **** you off. We're going to continue to do it until your
> daughter reaches puberty and then we're going to grab her off the street
> and when we're done passing her around until she can only manage to fart
> bassoon notes we're going to sell her to somebody in the Middle East who'll
> lease her out as an after dinner mint.
>
> We've already all had your wife, your dog, and have shown your 11 year old
> son where all the porn sites are.
>
> Face it, Snookums, you're screwed.

I already know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, but
how did you GET that way? Was it childhood trauma perpetuated through
generations of angry genes? Don't just blame your dad. I had a rough
early life myself but I didn't turn into a tattooed, arrogant punk
with no respect for others unless they're part of "the gang."

I already know WHAT you are, I'm looking for the WHY of it. This is a
(probably futile) attempt to see if your type can EVER be reasoned
with, or if I should just find a new neighborhood. The problem is,
noisy scumbags seem to be everywhere these days and I don't know if it
would matter.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[AH#104]

Enough Already sed:
> I already know you don't give a damn
>about anyone but yourself,

You *know* this? Well, I guess you don't know ****.

<snip some more drivel>

>... or if I should just find a new neighborhood.

Please, stay here...

And quit cross-posting.

(_104_)

[Enough Already]

"Tony Fernandes" > wrote in message >...

> It's people like you guys that obviously don't care about anyone else but
> themselves that bring it upon yourselves when cities start creating car
> stereo ordinances. Then you moan and complain that the f-ing cops are out
> there harassing you. Believe me guys, even though you obviously outnumber
> myself and Enough Already on this board, it's not that way in real life.

Good post. Usenet does seem to condense people into small
self-righteous kingdoms, a lot like real-life gangs. Unfortunately
there are enough of these people in the real world to cause serious
trouble; trouble sleeping at the very least.

I'm not going to waste more time with this thread because I can see
it's a lost cause. I'll deal with audio terrorists one at a time the
way I always have. I guess there's no need to learn about their deeper
psychology.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[Enough Already]

Mase > wrote in message >...

> Heh, I just bought my 2003 sportster s, read this and decided it was
> time to go ahead and purchase the cycle shack slip-ons!
>
> Thanks man!

Would you like it if someone started pounding on your door at 2AM
nightly, waking you up and making you worry when the next "shoe" would
drop, preventing further sound sleep? Would that be a _good_ thing,
man?

That's what it's like when you have neighbor who rides at all hours
(selling drugs or whatever). Truly a great bunch of people with the
utmost respect for others. Upstanding citizens and patriots. Righteous
to the core.


E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[Enough Already]

"CyclePrick" > wrote in message >...

> "Enough Already" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> > (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> > planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> > of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
> > purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
> > latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
> > frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
>
> Because I ****en can!

I would too if I was an asshole, but I'm not, so I respect others'
right to peace and quiet.

Now, can you explain WHY you make so much noise? Or did I already get
the answer right above?

E.A.


http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[Enough Already]

Tom > wrote in message >...

> Enough Already wrote:
>
> > Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> > (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.
>
> > WHY do you do it and why do you have so little conscience about it?
>
> Because the whole ****in' world is full of idiots like you who bug the
> **** out of me.You bug me, so therefore I have the right to bug you. So
> stick it up your ass.

Let's see, YOU make the noise in the FIRST place and I complain about
it, therefore I'M the one who started the whole episode? That's
typical gang thinking. You forget who drew first blood and create a
twisted self-righteousness. I don't know what makes people that way
but I'm glad I escaped the curse.

> Tell you what, I'll ride a quiet bike if and when they shut down the
> telemarketers that ring MY phone in MY house when nobody told them they
> could.

Odd that you consider telemarketers a nuisance but take pride in being
one yourself. Surely you've heard of the "Do Not Call List," which
goes a long way toward shutting down telemarketers:
http://www.donotcall.gov/

If enough people stick up for their right to peace and quiet they'll
eventually make a "Do Not Fart List" for loud pipes and a "Do Not
Boom" list for teenage thumpers.

But now that you know about the telemarketing law, will you cut the dB
of your pipes? I didn't think so. You've got deeper issues, don't you?

Enforcing existing noise laws would help, but most people are afraid
to report chronic noise because the standard rebuttal is vandalism or
even death threats (if I stick with this thread long enough I'm sure
I'll get one from this classy crowd). Noise is also a transitory thing
and hard to prove firsthand if they see the police coming. I don't
know what can be done with so little human integrity out there.

E.A.


http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[Harold Gailey]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
om...
> (Denny) wrote in message
>...
>
> > ****in' off a self-righteous trolling muther****er like you is about
> > all the motivation I need. Anyway, you wouldn't know a Harley from an
> > Indian from a Honda ... even if I shoved one up yer ass.
>
> Well, it looks like I've reached the highly reasonable, non-selfish
> audience I was aiming for. Not a single comment on the noise issue, I
> see. Afraid of the truth, eh?

Have you tried ear plugs? Special sound insulating materials in the bedroom
walls? A good night sleep is too important to just gripe about it. Do
something about it.

--
Harold
74 CB450 stolen
74 Z1 traded
76 FX stolen
78 FX(E) home again
02 FXDX
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/hgailey55/instant/photos.html

[Don T.]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
om...

>
> I would too if I was an asshole, but I'm not, so I respect others'
> right to peace and quiet.

Go hump a tree! I bet you wear afghans.
Yeah, hear your mutts barking for miles.
That's OK, when Bamba turns his head looking for you, BBammmm, fresh meat to
eat.
No, no, not like your afghans, you don't kill them first.


>
> Now, can you explain WHY you make so much noise? Or did I already get
> the answer right above?

I just love the sounds of chainsaws in the morning. It, it, it smells
likeee.............lumber.
So many rain forests, so few lumber trucks, sad so sad, If only Detroit
could only keep up with the world's needs. We should be willing to forget
all that pollution control crap, after all, it's only oil. There is plenty
of it, all we got to do is send in the bulldozers. Bulldozers are cool, you
like bulldozers, Comrade EA ? (eat afghans?)

>
> E.A.
>
>
> http://enough_already_slip_me_a_bone.tripod.com/
> If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

If any man believes like you, we just call them weird. Laughing all the way,
What a loser.

[GuitarMan]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
m...
> Boom stereos and Complainers/tree huggers are two of the biggest sources
of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America.

re-worded for the truth...

[Schmoe]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message
om...
> Spunky The Tuna > wrote in message
>...
>
> > (Enough Already) wrote:
> >
> > > snip>

>I already know WHAT you are, I'm looking for the WHY of it. This is a
> (probably futile) attempt to see if your type can EVER be reasoned
> with, or if I should just find a new neighborhood. The problem is,
> noisy scumbags seem to be everywhere these days and I don't know if it
> would matter.

Let me guess. You're one of those wackos who writes letter after letter to
politicians at all levels & newspapers indicating your disatisfaction with
various imperfections in the world. I'm guessing you don't get out much,
have a negligible social life, probably divorced for many, many years but
havn't dated much in most of those years. No woman has been able to tolerate
your presence for more then a date or two before realizing the loser
quotient displayed in everything you do. You're cheap, petty and intolerant.
You can't have fun and wouldn't know how to it if was offered up on an ice
cream cake. Your life appears meaningless to you so your best method of
coping is by finding fault in the joys of others including the young and
adventurous who all share traits that you sorely miss.

And you're an asshole, too.

[Brooklyn]

"Spunky The Tuna" > wrote ...
> (Enough Already) wrote:
>
> > Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> > (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> > planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> > of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
> > purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
> > latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
> > frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
> > you have so little conscience about it?
>
>
> It's personal.
>
> We do it just to **** you off. We're going to continue to do it until
your
> daughter reaches puberty ...

Why wait? I need somebody to be sewing them ****in' Levis! As they say in
China, "little fingers are nimble fingers".

Brooklyn

[Roach]

"Enough Already" > wrote in message


>
> That's what it's like when you have neighbor who rides at all hours
> (selling drugs or whatever). Truly a great bunch of people with the
> utmost respect for others. Upstanding citizens and patriots. Righteous
> to the core.

Sounds to me like your real problem is you don't have the balls
to confront the neighbor who is really causing you the problem.
So you vent on our group anonymously so you won't get your
ass kicked.










>
>
> E.A.
>
> http://enough_already.tripod.com/
> If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.

[Waco]

"Dash1Bravo" > wrote in message
m...
<snip>
> Too bad they haven't figured out how to chrome a clue, because the
> harley crowd might finally be interested in buying something useful
> for a change.
>
> Dash1Bravo

Ok, that was actually kinda funny. Congrats.

--
Waco NTXNS
'03 FLSTSI - "BlingBling" (a nicer shade of silver and black)

[Haioken]

Why? Because we can. Because it annoys you, and because we don't like you.
And yes, I do, in all seriousness, mean that.
You are the most pure form of everything I don't like.

I might also suggest that that 30hz being projected for 3 blocks, does serve
a purpose. Modern music isn't about the words, or hearing the instruments
clearly. It's about the beat. If you stick the Bass and Trebel up quiet
heavily, You can still clearly hear the beat.

My next point, is that you can project 30hz sound waves for three blocks and
still get balanced music, simply by having higher frequency up as well. The
difference is, that higher frequencies will not carry well over a longer
distance, as the sound wave dies off after a certain number of cycles. If
the cycle is smaller (Higher frequency) Then obviously, it goes a shorter
distance.

I guess my real point is ... We don't like you. Go away.

- Haioken

[Terry Coombs]

"Don T." > wrote in message
...
>
> "AH#104" > wrote in message
> ...
> > danielc sed:
> > > You cut me off on purpose you better light
> > >the throttle and outrun me before I get your
> > >license plate.
> >
> > Because I *will* leave a nasty note on your windshield!
> >
>
> Well, I will rub my pecker on his doorhandle and when he opens his door, I
> will jump out of the bushes laughing and yelling "Smell your hand, smell
> your hand!!!!!"
>
> Don T.- That will teach them.
>
>
I'm *so* glad I swallowed my coffee before I read that ...
--
Snag_one , the motorcycle maniac
SENS BS132 DOF52
TOMKAT NEWT15
88 XL 1200 "Beast
74 CB750 rat
39 WL project bike
RMH FAQ's http://rmhfaq.com/

[Chris from SickCycles]

This is probably just going to encourage her...
> (Enough Already) wrote in message
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> of value.
HEY!
I live near an interstate overpass; two houses away actually.
Trucks test their brakes over the bridge at all hours of the night.
I'm not sure how necessary those J brake systems are, I mean after
all those trucks are making money (they wouldn't do it if they weren't)
so couldn't they afford to invest in some quiter electric brakes ?
I should certainly be able to make as much noise as that. I'm not
even getting paid for it.
>
> HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes or
> prove a point that "cager" society needs to understand? Is it part of
> your worldview that anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle lacks
> fundamental coolness, and is too uptight about the racket you make?
> These questions don't apply to those who limit their noise to areas
> where the public is unaffected, so let's not go off on the old
> "blanket-labeling" tangent to distract from this nationwide problem.
>
When it's late I usually roll the bike out onto the road before I
start it up, and I always warm up the engine on the road, so I just
putt putt along for the first mile or so anyhow. By the time I get to
your neighborhood the bike is all warmed up, and I think nothing of
screaming down the road. See how that works, I get tremendous value
in fun and excitement from rolling on the throttle, and I didn't even
wake the kids when I left. F you and your neighbors.
>
> Saying that cars can't hear you without extreme pipes is a
> clever self-serving defense, but it can't be the main reason.
>
Loud pipes save lives. I've gone through intersections were I
can't get a visual from the person about to pull out and run me over.
If it's necessary I rev it up real loud, and sure enough people tend
to look all around when it sounds like a big truck is bearing down on them.
>
> If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.
You got some real problems pal. I suggest you kill yourself and
save the world from this aweful plague, or are you really any different ?

[Chris from SickCycles]

This is probably just going to encourage her...
> (Enough Already) wrote in message
> Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
> (unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
> planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
> of value.
HEY!
I live near an interstate overpass; two houses away actually.
Trucks test their brakes over the bridge at all hours of the night.
I'm not sure how necessary those J brake systems are, I mean after
all those trucks are making money (they wouldn't do it if they weren't)
so couldn't they afford to invest in some quiter electric brakes ?
I should certainly be able to make as much noise as that. I'm not
even getting paid for it.
>
> HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes or
> prove a point that "cager" society needs to understand? Is it part of
> your worldview that anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle lacks
> fundamental coolness, and is too uptight about the racket you make?
> These questions don't apply to those who limit their noise to areas
> where the public is unaffected, so let's not go off on the old
> "blanket-labeling" tangent to distract from this nationwide problem.
>
When it's late I usually roll the bike out onto the road before I
start it up, and I always warm up the engine on the road, so I just
putt putt along for the first mile or so anyhow. By the time I get to
your neighborhood the bike is all warmed up, and I think nothing of
screaming down the road. See how that works, I get tremendous value
in fun and excitement from rolling on the throttle, and I didn't even
wake the kids when I left. F you and your neighbors.
>
> Saying that cars can't hear you without extreme pipes is a
> clever self-serving defense, but it can't be the main reason.
>
Loud pipes save lives. I've gone through intersections were I
can't get a visual from the person about to pull out and run me over.
If it's necessary I rev it up real loud, and sure enough people tend
to look all around when it sounds like a big truck is bearing down on them.
>
> If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.
You got some real problems pal. I suggest you kill yourself and
save the world from this aweful plague, or are you really any different ?

[Dash1Bravo]

"AH#104" > wrote in message >...
> danielc sed:
> > You cut me off on purpose you better light
> >the throttle and outrun me before I get your
> >license plate.
>
> Because I *will* leave a nasty note on your windshield!
>
> (_104_)


Well, that could be a problem. See, when I buy aftermarket mods for
my cage or my bike, I tend to avoid multi-thousand dollar pieces of
shiny metal that do nothing for performance. So if you honestly
believe that you can catch up to any of the well-tuned performance
machines that I drive/ride, please feel free to have a go. With any
luck you'll find yourself in too-close-proximity to a diesel spill and
end up painting the road a nice, shiny (albeit sticky) red.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're one of those
disgruntled yuppie ****s who thinks that shiny metal and loud noises
are the denoumement of Western Civ. That's cool. Whatever you have
to do to abate the gnawing pain of a miserable marriage made tolerable
only with liberal doses of budweiser and viagra. But don't sweat it
too much when the 99% of the rest of road users find your bleating,
whining pipes and ****-poor lane-splitting skills a little too much to
bear.

As for any suggestion that I go to a harley bar and make these
statements, where I come from, bars that cater to men in leather have
never ranked on my To Do list.

Dash1Bravo

[Flack]

There's a time and place for everything. If you live on the strip, expect to
hear bass Saturday night. Young men are going to put money into their cars,
whether it's under the hood or in the trunk. I personally believe that
there's a difference between cranking it up Saturday night and Sunday
morning, however. My stereo gets cranked up on the interstate, and turned
down at intersections.

In Norman Oklahoma, the noise ordinance is that anything that can be heard
"more than 50 feet away" is illegal, and violators can be fined and even
thrown in jail. I've never seen a Harley that I couldn't hear from 50 feet
away, or a stock stereo, for that matter.

"Tony Fernandes" > wrote in message
...
> I myself think it's VERY inconsiderate to boom your stereo in a
residential
> area...regardless of the time of day. Have I done it before? Yes...when
I
> was 16. I'm 32 now and have a much nicer, louder system, but I try very
> hard not to disturb others with it.
>
> It's people like you guys that obviously don't care about anyone else but
> themselves that bring it upon yourselves when cities start creating car
> stereo ordinances. Then you moan and complain that the f-ing cops are out
> there harassing you. Believe me guys, even though you obviously outnumber
> myself and Enough Already on this board, it's not that way in real life.
>
> And as far as exhaust noise goes? Most states have laws regarding
excessive
> noise in this regard. So for the person that posted that he's an American
> and has the right to do anything they want....get a clue & grow up.
>
> I personally have more tolerance than Enough Already for these sorts of
> noises, but just because I do doesn't mean others do as well.
>
> Have some respect.
>
> Tony
>
>
> --
>
>
> What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the
> universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or,
that
> he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we
wouldn't
> have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact
>
>

[Reekor]

What in the world are you talking about, you can project 30hz sound waves for
three blocks? With what? Nothing in your post makes any sense or relates to
any truth whatsoever.


In article >, "Haioken"
> wrote:
>Why? Because we can. Because it annoys you, and because we don't like you.
>And yes, I do, in all seriousness, mean that.
>You are the most pure form of everything I don't like.
>
>I might also suggest that that 30hz being projected for 3 blocks, does serve
>a purpose. Modern music isn't about the words, or hearing the instruments
>clearly. It's about the beat. If you stick the Bass and Trebel up quiet
>heavily, You can still clearly hear the beat.
>
>My next point, is that you can project 30hz sound waves for three blocks and
>still get balanced music, simply by having higher frequency up as well. The
>difference is, that higher frequencies will not carry well over a longer
>distance, as the sound wave dies off after a certain number of cycles. If
>the cycle is smaller (Higher frequency) Then obviously, it goes a shorter
>distance.
>
>I guess my real point is ... We don't like you. Go away.
>
> - Haioken
>
>
>

[Ironhorse]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:09:51 -0500,
wrote:


>Keyboard coward. Pussy. Either have the balls to back up your
>convictions or admit you're too spineless to do so. Right now I'd say
>it's pretty obvious what you're about.

This is from the guy who leaves nasty notes on the windshield? You are
****ing killing me Daniel


Ironhorse, HSB#96, SENS BS
2001 Ultraclassic with Sidecar
96 Custom bucket of bolts (gone but not forgotten)

[AH#104]

Daniel sed:
> Dude, I explained the reason for that long ago. If you didn't
> understand it, fine. That's your problem.

But Ironhorse was the only one who DID get it. Went right over Don T,
Terry, Dash1Bravo, & Manboy. Dash1Bravo has an excuse since he's a newbie.

--
ASSHOLE #104 Len
BS#90 Wolf#21 PH©#3 SENS MANS
'73XLH '99FXD '02FLHRI http://AH104.com

[Chilly Willy]

"Enough Already" > wrote
> Mase wrote ...
>
> > Heh, I just bought my 2003 sportster s, read this and decided it was
> > time to go ahead and purchase the cycle shack slip-ons!
> >
> > Thanks man!
>
> Would you like it if someone started pounding on your door at 2AM
> nightly, waking you up and making you worry when the next "shoe" would
> drop, preventing further sound sleep? Would that be a _good_ thing,
> man?
>
> That's what it's like when you have neighbor who rides at all hours
> (selling drugs or whatever).

**** you and your stereotyping. Deal with your neighbor and stop making
sweeping generalizations

Sincerely,

--
Chilly Willy
03 FXSTDI (Il Duce)
Wheels for Eddie '03
NoVA www.chilly-willy.net

[Tud]

Enough Already wrote...

> And if you dare complain about the noise, you'll get yelled at or have
> your tires slashed, or worse.

You left out the good ones, like raping you're wife and daughters, or
hanging your cat from a tree.

--
Tud
AH#115 SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT
'70 Triumph T120R Chopper "The Death Trap"
http://ah115.com

[[email protected]]

On 26 Sep 2003 13:33:17 -0700, (Enough
Already) wrote:

>Boom stereos and Harleys are two of the biggest sources of gratuitous
>(unnecessary) noise pollution in America. Other noise-makers like
>planes, trains and construction vehicles are usually doing something
>of value. There's a big difference between noise made for utilitarian
>purposes and noise made "just because." To all of you who make the
>latter: Since you know people are angered by your gratuitous low
>frequencies and gatling-gun exhaust pipes, WHY do you do it and why do
>you have so little conscience about it?
>
>I keep hearing that bikers are actually "nice people" and subwoofer
>addicts are "just kids having fun." But nice people don't knowingly
>rob citizens of the right to peace, quiet and unbroken sleep in their
>homes, then top it off by getting defiant about it when questioned.
>Decent people don't make all that noise in the _first place_, and if
>they do it out of genuine misunderstanding, they don't KEEP doing it
>when people ask them (politely at first, which rarely works) to stop.
>
>CAR BOOMERS: Do you think you'll get more girls if you play "badass"
>thumpin' music, or is it a way of telling other thugs that you own a
>particular territory (like a dog ****ing on a phone pole)? People who
>live in the neighborhood and pay taxes for the streets should just put
>up with it, right? And if they don't, you'll slash their tires?
>Audio-wise, true music fans know that boom bass drowns out clarity.
>You can't project 30hz for three blocks and get balanced, clean sound.
>We who are subjected to it know that's never been your real motive.
>
>HARLEY RIDERS: Are you _trying_ to annoy people in their homes or
>prove a point that "cager" society needs to understand? Is it part of
>your worldview that anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle lacks
>fundamental coolness, and is too uptight about the racket you make?
>When you sit and idle your bikes for many minutes is it weak oil
>circulation, poor timing, or something else? In relatively modern
>engines, most idling (beyond the stall point) is pointless wear,
>especially if you have no A/C to run. You're doing it for other
>reasons, aren't you?
>
>These questions don't apply to those who limit their noise to areas
>where the public is unaffected, so let's not go off on the old
>"blanket-labeling" tangent to distract from this nationwide problem.
>
>I'm talking about the thousands, if not millions of boomers and
>pipe-farters who _knowingly_ and _willingly_ disturb the peace. WHY do
>you do it? Saying that cars can't hear you without extreme pipes is a
>clever self-serving defense, but it can't be the main reason. I think
>you mostly want people to see you as rebels; the endless high-school
>mentality. Saying that boom bass is free speech or a diversion for
>youth who might become criminals without a "hobby" doesn't cut it
>either. Plenty of hobbies are far less obnoxious. Obnoxious people are
>drawn to disruptive activities, so it's about YOU, not just what you
>"happen" to enjoy.
>
>What are your TRUE motives for trashing others' quality of life in
>their own homes, especially at night when they need to sleep? Let's
>get at least one honest answer here, please.
>
>E.A.
>
>http://enough_already.tripod.com/
>If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.


here is my 0.02cents.

Harley riders= White trash, they cant come to face the truth that
their bikes run on world war 1 and 2 technology, thus they have SLOW
motorcycles. Harleys are ****ing named after a pig... HOG. So i say,
they like them loud, since they cant go fast, and attract the
attention a motorcycle should....they might as well be loud. They
cant go a day without people drawing attention to their mullets. I
wish you could recycle trash.

Car boomers: two options... option1 : Still in highschool. They
enjoy their music, and think that ear damage isnt a factor.
Option 2 : Done highschool, but cant find a way to grow up. :D

or perhaps option 3 : They like loud music.

just my 0.02cents

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more 0.02 cents...


chicks wear skimpy clothes... for attention...yet they dont wanna be
used for sex (well some of them dont wanna be used)

Body builders get big muscles....for attention...yet the invention of
the gun made big muscles obselete.

Big steros...for attention... music sounds better at lower sound
levels....well sometimes... but when you are in your car, and another
cars bass note shakes your windows....you LOOK at the car doing it...
there is some attention for him/her

Expensive cars ... for attention... really, we should only use a
vechile for groceries, and going to visit realtives etc etc ... we
dont need an 100grand benz to do that ... but people want the
attention.

Harleys with no mufflers...for attention... People know that white
trash, is annoying. So the white trash enjoy drawing attention to
themselves...their bikes cant go fast, so they gotta do something...so
loudness it is.

people smoking... i dont see the reasoning behind getting cancer...


People do alot of things for attetion. I dont see why you made your
post demanding reasons for why people do what people do. If you want
peace and quiet...i got news for you... you made a mistake and bought
a house in the city. You belong on a farm or an acreage somewhere.
The city is loud... full of all kinds of people. The world aint
perfect, so either you can bitch and complain about it, write stupid
postings in a car.audio newsgroup thinking your gonna find the answers
to lifes problems... or you can simpley live and let live ... and if
you dont like the way the people around you live... move somewhere
else with no one else around. AND DONT think your gonna make a
difference in the world by bitching and complaining...it aint gonna
happen

once again ... my 0.02 cents. I just cant stand people complaining
about what other people do with their time. Its their life, let them
live it.

HECK by stocks in hearing aid companys...make some money off the car
boomers

[james w]

I'll preface this with "if I were to buy a bike it wouldn't be a Harley."

That said, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Go to a
Harley shop or talk to someone who owns one (a Harley, that is). The only
thing you said that was accurate is that some people call them hogs. Try to
outrun one. Hell, try to out run a real hog (the four legged kind). If the
rider feels like being bothered, you'll discover that you need a speedy
vehicle to outrun one that doesn't want to be outrun.




> wrote in message
...
>
> Harley riders= White trash, they cant come to face the truth that
> their bikes run on world war 1 and 2 technology, thus they have SLOW
> motorcycles. Harleys are ****ing named after a pig... HOG. So i say,
> they like them loud, since they cant go fast, and attract the
> attention a motorcycle should....they might as well be loud. They
> cant go a day without people drawing attention to their mullets. I
> wish you could recycle trash.
>
> Car boomers: two options... option1 : Still in highschool. They
> enjoy their music, and think that ear damage isnt a factor.
> Option 2 : Done highschool, but cant find a way to grow up. :D
>
> or perhaps option 3 : They like loud music.
>
> just my 0.02cents
>

[[email protected]]

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:48:09 GMT, "james w" >
wrote:

>I'll preface this with "if I were to buy a bike it wouldn't be a Harley."
>
>That said, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Go to a
>Harley shop or talk to someone who owns one (a Harley, that is). The only
>thing you said that was accurate is that some people call them hogs. Try to
>outrun one. Hell, try to out run a real hog (the four legged kind). If the
>rider feels like being bothered, you'll discover that you need a speedy
>vehicle to outrun one that doesn't want to be outrun.
>
>
>
>

or else all i need is a bottom of the line crotch rocket

[Philip Nasadowski]

Notice how they left out those un-annoying things like the BMW with the
car alarm going off at 2am for a few hours, or the lawn care crew that
comes at 7am sharp on saturday to have the lawn *perfect* when they come
back from the weekend retreat on sunday...

I love the cell phone in the theater thing too. Or on the train home.
Oh yeah, the car alarm. They can't park one second without etting it,
giving out that annoying beep blop announcing to the world THEIR car is
SO gosh darn important it's *protected* (personally, I love to kick the
ones that yell at you to move away..). The all night party with their
friends parking their SUVs all over the place are fun too. Hey, just
because YOU want to leave YOUR driveway doesn't mean you can. Their
H2's too important to be parked out of direct view of everyone...

You want real annoyance, try living near a diesel train line. Thank god
we don't have huge freights by me, just a passenger train every 2 hours.
I'm 1 mile away through trees galore and can hear them.

Or an airport. Nothing like a 747 buzzing your home at 2am.

Or, life in general. So, if you want peace and quite, move to the
middle of ****ing nowhere and live in a hole in the ground. You're in
civilization. There's lots of people around. It's noisy. Get over it
--
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[InferiorWang]

Ah jeez, why can't we all get along. Seriously, there are gonna be
people that do things to **** you off your entire life. *****ing about
it on the internet isn't going to make it any better for you. Go smoke
a joint and relax. All of you.

I have a system in my car. It's not a great system and I plan to get a
louder one (with a bunch more SQ, too) because sometimes I like bass I
can feel. When I drive home from college down the interstate with my
windows down (because it gets stuffy in a car even with good a/c) I turn
my stereo up so I can hear it better. Whenever I pull into my
neighborhood or into work, I turn my stereo down. Some people will be
obnoxious about their music, but there's f*ck all you can do about it.
Some people are dicks. Some people on both sides of this issue are
dicks. I'm going to keep listening to my music loud when I want to.
I'll stop at any intersection I want and bump my music because I'd
rather not spend a whole lot of time fiddling with my stereo when I'm
trying to drive and not run over dumb@sses who don't know how to
drive.

You know what? My car is loud, too. I don't have a fart can. I hate
those. I do, however, happen to have a hole in my muffler that makes it
sound like I have one. It bugs me, but do you know what I do? I turn
the stereo up. Ooops. Does that **** you off? If you want to send me
some cash to get a new muffler I'll let you paypal it to me. I don't
trust you with my address. You seem worse than the kids who would slash
someone's tires b/c they are ****ed about something stupid. Have I been
angry with the way things were before, someone for doing something I
don't agree with, or someone yelling at me? Yes. Have I ever slashed
someone's tires, broken windows, etc? No. I think you need to put some
more thought into your statements before you go generalizing what is
more than a small group of kids.

I don't have anything against Harleys either. I know a few people that
ride them. They are great people and good parents with teenage kids.
They are responsible riders, but their bikes are still loud. Do I hold
that against them? No. Noise pollution is abundant today and trying to
stop it by stopping a few people from making noise is futile. I know
Harleys are slower than the crotch rockets that many people ride today
(like my boss and his Ninja motorcycle). Those bikes are loud, too.
They are faster, but that's not what everyone is after. I'm a speed
freak, but everyone has different tastes. Harleys have a different feel
from other bikes, and some people want to make their bike different and
unique. You may argue that loud is not unique, but it's not solely
about being loud. It's about setting up a bike to suit your tastes.
It's the same with cars. I think that people who rice their cars and go
all show with no go is pointless, but it's not my car so I don't try to
change what other people want to do.

So remember, everyone has different tastes.
Some people are irresponsible, but that doesn't mean we all are.
And sh!t happens so get over it. Stressing about it will only give you
a heart attack. Now everyone go roll another joint and chill.
--
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[Phantom of the Bosque]

> Loud pipes save lives. I've gone through intersections were I
> can't get a visual from the person about to pull out and run me over.
> If it's necessary I rev it up real loud, and sure enough people tend
> to look all around when it sounds like a big truck is bearing down on
them.

You bring new meaning to the adjective "moron".

[Chris from SickCycles]

"Phantom of the Bosque" > wrote in message

> You bring new meaning to the adjective "moron".
And you bring new meaning to the proper noun Moron.

[InferiorWang]

funny, I too thought moron was a noun while moronic was the adjective
derived from it.
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[Nobody's home]

"Tud" > wrote in message
...
> Enough Already wrote...
>
> > And if you dare complain about the noise, you'll get yelled at or have
> > your tires slashed, or worse.
>
> You left out the good ones, like raping you're wife and daughters, or
> hanging your cat from a tree.
>
> --
> Tud
> AH#115 SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT
> '70 Triumph T120R Chopper "The Death Trap"
> http://ah115.com
>

Tud, you were paying attention in class, the cat is to be gutted and hung
over the front door knob.. now go out there and get it right next time...

[Irv Scoot]

(Enough Already) wrote in message
> What are your TRUE motives for trashing others' quality of life in
> their own homes, especially at night when they need to sleep? Let's
> get at least one honest answer here, please.
>
>
Why don't you turn douwn your hearing aids grandpa, you'll sleep
better.
And let's face it your motive is not to elicit an answer for your
question. You are the type that get's some gratification from asking
the "big question". Have we excited you yet?

[Easy]

"Irv Scoot" > wrote in message
m...

> You are the type that get's some gratification from asking
> the "big question". Have we excited you yet?
>

nope, it's grandma that's excited.

all that throbbing power gets her hot.

grandpa can't cut the mustard, and won't lick the jar.

poor grandma.

--
Easy, #39

[InferiorWang]

^^^^
omg roflmao!
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