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Howard Ferstler
October 21st 04, 01:42 AM
Hello, Peasants,

The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I
figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the
news.

I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy
yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor,"
which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the
technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also
wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the
biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company
histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a
heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total
material in this new edition was written or modified by me.
I suppose that adds up to maybe 120 text pages. Not bad, but
still no huge amount. Still, it is many times as much as
most of you people have put into a book. Add in my previous
four books (written solely by me, of course), and you have
quite a contrast between the typical RAO goofball and
Ferstler.

Incidentally, my name is on many of the articles, but there
are also many shorter articles there that have no byline
name at all that I also wrote. It must really kill some of
you clowns to think that Routledge, a major member of the
British/American Taylor-Francis publishing group, has a book
out there that has Ferstler as a major contributor.

Although many audio notables are in the books, it is still
primarily a music-oriented publication, with scads of bios
of performers and much dealing with the history of recorded
music. Surely, many of you RAO zeros would like to have a
book like this to raise your music-knowledg number a bit
above that zero. You might learn something worthwhile about
audio, too.

The two-volume set lists for $225.00, which means that it
will definitely be an academic or technical library item,
and will not be something the average tweako-geeko would
purchase to round out his literary collection. Does cost
less than a set of super-duper wires, however.

Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler

Clyde Slick
October 21st 04, 02:21 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Hello, Peasants,
>
> The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I
> figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the
> news.
>
> I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy
> yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor,"
> which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the
> technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also
> wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the
> biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company
> histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a
> heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total
> material in this new edition was written or modified by me.
> I suppose that adds up to maybe 120 text pages. Not bad, but
> still no huge amount. Still, it is many times as much as
> most of you people have put into a book. Add in my previous
> four books (written solely by me, of course), and you have
> quite a contrast between the typical RAO goofball and
> Ferstler.
>
> Incidentally, my name is on many of the articles, but there
> are also many shorter articles there that have no byline
> name at all that I also wrote. It must really kill some of
> you clowns to think that Routledge, a major member of the
> British/American Taylor-Francis publishing group, has a book
> out there that has Ferstler as a major contributor.
>
> Although many audio notables are in the books, it is still
> primarily a music-oriented publication, with scads of bios
> of performers and much dealing with the history of recorded
> music. Surely, many of you RAO zeros would like to have a
> book like this to raise your music-knowledg number a bit
> above that zero. You might learn something worthwhile about
> audio, too.
>
> The two-volume set lists for $225.00, which means that it
> will definitely be an academic or technical library item,
> and will not be something the average tweako-geeko would
> purchase to round out his literary collection. Does cost
> less than a set of super-duper wires, however.
>
> Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler

Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound
better

Robert Morein
October 21st 04, 02:22 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Hello, Peasants,
>
> The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I
> figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the
> news.
>
> I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy
> yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor,"
> which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the
> technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also
> wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the
> biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company
> histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a
> heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total
> material in this new edition was written or modified by me.

Howard, in all seriousness, you, as a librarian, probably possess
considerable ability to collate and organize facts. However, you lack
KNOWLEDGE and JUDGMENT. It has been observed multitudinous times that you
are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive. It is
unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press, frequently
becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret.

So it is here. You have collated and arranged material so it fits on a page,
nothing more.
Our elementary schools teach "don't believe something just because it
appears in a book."
Your tome is a towering reminder of this good advice, a Mausoleum of
Mediocrity.

Howard Ferstler
October 21st 04, 03:01 AM
Clyde Slick wrote:

> Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound
> better

Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.

Eat your heart out, goofball.

Howard Ferstler

Clyde Slick
October 21st 04, 03:07 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>
>> Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound
>> better
>
> Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.
>

I am sure you have 2 cd players.

Howard Ferstler
October 21st 04, 03:13 AM
Robert Morein wrote:

> Howard, in all seriousness, you, as a librarian, probably possess
> considerable ability to collate and organize facts.

I was never a librarian. I was what is called a library
technical assistant. Note that I did not collate or organize
anything in the book. Here is what I did:

1. I wrote many new technical articles that were not in the
first edition (the new one is the second edition).

2. I wrote many biographical sketches of audio notables.
There were none in the first edition.

3. I wrote many company history articles. There were only a
few in the first edition.

4. I rewrote many of the technical articles that had been in
the first edition.

5. I read through all of the earlier technical articles and
fact checked them, often adding additional information at
the end related to new developments.

> However, you lack
> KNOWLEDGE and JUDGMENT.

Hey, buddy boy, need I mention again that I am in print, and
you do not get that way by being on your level. What's more,
the editor originally contacted me for the work, and not the
other way around. He did so, because he had heard of me and
knew of my previous work. I would say that he was more than
adequately impressed with my knowledge and judgment. Note
that this is my fifth book. How many have you published,
pal?

It is you clowns, with your moronic views concerning audio,
who have problems with knowledge and judgment.

> It has been observed multitudinous times that you
> are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive.

Only in the eyes of those who are deluded.

> It is
> unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press, frequently
> becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret.

According to you and your fellow goofballs.

> So it is here. You have collated and arranged material so it fits on a page,
> nothing more.

See my five points, above.

> Our elementary schools teach "don't believe something just because it
> appears in a book."

Right. However, an edited book is head and shoulders above
the often ridiculous claptrap we read here on RAO.

> Your tome is a towering reminder of this good advice, a Mausoleum of
> Mediocrity.

Routledge is a branch of the Taylor & Francis publishing
group, and I would rate their writer-rating judgment as
being pretty competent. On the other hand, you are an RAO
gasbag who lives in an audio fantasyland, and you have not a
clue about what you are talking about when it comes to what
I have accomplished and when it comes to audio.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 21st 04, 03:14 AM
Clyde Slick wrote:
>
> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Clyde Slick wrote:
> >
> >> Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound
> >> better
> >
> > Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.

> I am sure you have 2 cd players.

I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however.

Howard Ferstler

Trevor Wilson
October 21st 04, 03:54 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Hello, Peasants,
>
> The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I
> figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the
> news.
>
> I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy
> yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor,"
> which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the
> technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also
> wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the
> biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company
> histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a
> heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total
> material in this new edition was written or modified by me.
> I suppose that adds up to maybe 120 text pages. Not bad, but
> still no huge amount. Still, it is many times as much as
> most of you people have put into a book. Add in my previous
> four books (written solely by me, of course), and you have
> quite a contrast between the typical RAO goofball and
> Ferstler.
>
> Incidentally, my name is on many of the articles, but there
> are also many shorter articles there that have no byline
> name at all that I also wrote. It must really kill some of
> you clowns to think that Routledge, a major member of the
> British/American Taylor-Francis publishing group, has a book
> out there that has Ferstler as a major contributor.
>
> Although many audio notables are in the books, it is still
> primarily a music-oriented publication, with scads of bios
> of performers and much dealing with the history of recorded
> music. Surely, many of you RAO zeros would like to have a
> book like this to raise your music-knowledg number a bit
> above that zero. You might learn something worthwhile about
> audio, too.
>
> The two-volume set lists for $225.00, which means that it
> will definitely be an academic or technical library item,
> and will not be something the average tweako-geeko would
> purchase to round out his literary collection. Does cost
> less than a set of super-duper wires, however.
>
> Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler

**Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the
same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files burned
on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as
many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all
get excited. I might even buy a copy.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Robert Morein
October 21st 04, 04:03 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Robert Morein wrote:
>
>>Howard, in all seriousness, you, as a librarian, probably possess
>>considerable ability to collate and organize facts. However, you lack
>>KNOWLEDGE and JUDGMENT. It has been observed multitudinous times that you
>>are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive. It is
>>unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press,
frequently
>>becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret.
>
> Hey, buddy boy, need I mention again that I am in print,
Sure, mention it all you want.
> and
> you do not get that way by being on your level.

Howard, you're living proof that I am above that level. Thanks ever so much.

What's more,
> the editor originally contacted me for the work, and not the
> other way around. He did so, because he had heard of me and
> knew of my previous work.

Work? By the standards of Herr Goebels, ja.

I would say that he was more than
> adequately impressed with my knowledge and judgment.

I would say that you are more than adequately impressed with yourself.

Note
> that this is my fifth book. How many have you published,
> pal?

My point exactly. Apparently, it requires no qualifications except an
infatuation with one's self.
>
> It is you clowns, with your moronic views concerning audio,
> who have problems with knowledge and judgment.

Really, Herr Goebels? You really carry on the tradition of the Big Lie.
>
> > It has been observed multitudinous times that you
> > are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive.
>
> Only in the eyes of those who are deluded.
Yes, let us all bow down and acknowledge the librarian who has
self-promoted himself, ala Herr Goebels, to be a "big macher". I'll tell
you what you make a lot of, Howard -- ****.
>
> > It is
> > unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press,
frequently
> > becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to
interpret.
>
> According to you and your fellow goofballs.

Howard, we're free. Nobody pays us to be corrupt like you.
>
> > So it is here. You have collated and arranged material so it fits on a
page,
> > nothing more.
>
> See my five points, above.
>
> > Our elementary schools teach "don't believe something just because it
> > appears in a book."
>
> Right. However, an edited book is head and shoulders above
> the often ridiculous claptrap we read here on RAO.

Not if it's Mein Kampf by Howard Hertler. We will not permit you to
postulate without explicitly saying that this is your belief, and not
accepted by us on r.a.o.
>
> > Your tome is a towering reminder of this good advice, a Mausoleum of
> > Mediocrity.
>
> Routledge is a branch of the Taylor & Francis publishing
> group, and I would rate their writer-rating judgment as
> being pretty competent.
Of course you would, but it's a self-referential statement. You're just
patting yourself on the back, and blowing hot air up your own butt-hole.

>On the other hand, you are an RAO
> gasbag who lives in an audio fantasyland, and you have not a
> clue about what you are talking about when it comes to what
> I have accomplished and when it comes to audio.
>
> Howard Ferstler, Plagiarist.

You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have taken
for my own."
BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip].
I've just returned the favor.

Clyde Slick
October 21st 04, 04:04 AM
"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Brother Horace, are you sleeping?
>
>> > > Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.
>>
>> > I am sure you have 2 cd players.
>>
>> I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however.
>
> That's a lot of hiding places for the marbles you lost, note.
>
>

He has room to store five more volumes.

Clyde Slick
October 21st 04, 04:05 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>>
>> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Clyde Slick wrote:
>> >
>> >> Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it
>> >> sound
>> >> better
>> >
>> > Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.
>
>> I am sure you have 2 cd players.
>
> I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however.
>

All you need is five more volumes.

Howard Ferstler
October 21st 04, 04:12 AM
Trevor Wilson wrote:

> **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the
> same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files burned
> on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as
> many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all
> get excited. I might even buy a copy.

The wood for virtually all books these days comes from
pine-tree farms right down here in my area.

As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I
suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a
cave.

PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual
looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is
through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing.
What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it.
Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 21st 04, 04:14 AM
Robert Morein wrote:

> You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have taken
> for my own."
> BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip].
> I've just returned the favor.

Your gasbag proclamations notwithstanding, I still win and
you still lose.

Perhaps your local academic or technical library will order
a copy of the book for you to read and learn from.

Edit away, gasbag.

Howard Ferstler

Robert Morein
October 21st 04, 04:53 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Robert Morein wrote:
>
> > You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have
taken
> > for my own."
> > BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip].
> > I've just returned the favor.
>
> Your gasbag proclamations notwithstanding, I still win and
> you still lose.
>
> Perhaps your local academic or technical library will order
> a copy of the book for you to read and learn from.
>
> Edit away, gasbag.
>
> Howard Ferstler

How dare you demean me with cheap insults, you ****faced mother****er.

Robert Morein
October 21st 04, 05:07 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
> > **Bit of rip-off, doncha think?

It sure is a ripoff. A waste of trees, a ripoff price. Hey, wait a minute...

RIPOFF ALERT!

In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the
> > same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files
burned
> > on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill
as
> > many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may
all
> > get excited. I might even buy a copy.
>
> The wood for virtually all books these days comes from
> pine-tree farms right down here in my area.
>
> As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I
> suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a
> cave.
>
Howard, replace "solid" with "concerned".

> PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual
> looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is
> through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing.
> What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it.
> Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged.
>
> Howard Ferstler
Not necessarily. Hopefully, your book will be discarded as worthless.

Howard, your book is like The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire without the
rise.

Trevor Wilson
October 21st 04, 07:14 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly
>> the
>> same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files
>> burned
>> on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as
>> many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all
>> get excited. I might even buy a copy.
>
> The wood for virtually all books these days comes from
> pine-tree farms right down here in my area.

**So, the trees are not killed?

>
> As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I
> suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a
> cave.

**My home is built from clay bricks.

>
> PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual
> looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is
> through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing.
> What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it.

**Are you seriously suggesting that your book will be relevant to anything
in 100 years? In fact, as we both know very well, it will be outdated by the
time the presses start rolling. It will be almost useless as any kind of
reference within 5 years. Tops. A disk makes far more sense, for such an
ephemeral product.


> Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged.

**Please address my points about the rip-off pricing of your book, relative
to a disk, which would cost far less to produce, consume far less of the
planet's resources and would reach a far wider audience. Or do you think
that rip-off pricing when applied to books is OK, but not when applied to
(say) speaker cables.

Here's a thought: I am still using some expensive speaker cable I purchased
nearly 20 years ago. I'll betcha the purchasers of your book won't be able
to say that.

Do your readers and the planet a favour: Publish on disk.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Fella
October 21st 04, 10:22 AM
Howard Ferstler wrote:

>
> Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.
>
> Eat your heart out, goofball.
>

This answer is _the_ proof that your mental age is there around 8-9,
note, you will.

I got a boo-ououk, na na na na! Haa! haaaaa.

paul packer
October 21st 04, 11:43 AM
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:22:43 +0300, Fella > wrote:

>This answer is _the_ proof that your mental age is there around 8-9,
>note, you will.

Is this Yoda-ish?

>I got a boo-ououk, na na na na! Haa! haaaaa.

Is this Elvish?

Powell
October 21st 04, 02:59 PM
"Howard Ferstler" wrote

> Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler
>
Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book
sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)?

S888Wheel
October 21st 04, 04:48 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/20/2004 7:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Clyde Slick wrote:
>
>> Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound
>> better
>
>Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.
>
>Eat your heart out, goofball.
>
>Howard Ferstler
>
>
>
>
>
>

I am jealous I must admit. I have been looking for matching door stops.

S888Wheel
October 21st 04, 05:23 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/20/2004 7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Robert Morein wrote:
>
>> Howard, in all seriousness, you, as a librarian, probably possess
>> considerable ability to collate and organize facts.
>
>I was never a librarian. I was what is called a library
>technical assistant.

Sounds worse than a librarian. we've been giving you too much credit?

Note that I did not collate or organize
>anything in the book. Here is what I did:
>
>1. I wrote many new technical articles that were not in the
>first edition (the new one is the second edition).

OK but who really wrote them?


>
>2. I wrote many biographical sketches of audio notables.
>There were none in the first edition.

We know you wrote at least one after you were caught plagirizing that one. How
much of a delay did that cause in the release of this book?


>
>3. I wrote many company history articles. There were only a
>few in the first edition.
>
>4. I rewrote many of the technical articles that had been in
>the first edition.
>
>5. I read through all of the earlier technical articles and
>fact checked them, often adding additional information at
>the end related to new developments.

WOW Thrilling.


>
>> However, you lack
>> KNOWLEDGE and JUDGMENT.
>
>Hey, buddy boy, need I mention again that I am in print, and
>you do not get that way by being on your level.

You have demonstrated that the entry level for being published is quite low in
some cases. That is no reason for you to demean other writers this way.

What's more,
>the editor originally contacted me for the work, and not the
>other way around.

A mistake that he regrets undoubtedly.


He did so, because he had heard of me and
>knew of my previous work.

IOW he couldn't get anyone else to work that cheap.

I would say that he was more than
>adequately impressed with my knowledge and judgment.

You would say that. I doubt he would say that though.

Note
>that this is my fifth book. How many have you published,
>pal?

Note that you are the only proven plagiarist and fraud around here.


>
>It is you clowns, with your moronic views concerning audio,
>who have problems with knowledge and judgment.

Judgement as in choosing to plagiarize or not to plagiarize? Judgement as in
choosing to corupt the data of a purported valid DBT or not to corrupt the
data? We know all about youyr judgement Howard.


>
>> It has been observed multitudinous times that you
>> are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive.
>
>Only in the eyes of those who are deluded.
>
>> It is
>> unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press, frequently
>> becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret.
>
>According to you and your fellow goofballs.
>
>> So it is here. You have collated and arranged material so it fits on a
>page,
>> nothing more.
>
>See my five points, above.

You make a strong case for the notion that yours was a boring job.


>
>> Our elementary schools teach "don't believe something just because it
>> appears in a book."
>
>Right. However, an edited book is head and shoulders above
>the often ridiculous claptrap we read here on RAO.

And you manage to prove that there is an exception to this rule.


>
>> Your tome is a towering reminder of this good advice, a Mausoleum of
>> Mediocrity.
>
>Routledge is a branch of the Taylor & Francis publishing
>group, and I would rate their writer-rating judgment as
>being pretty competent.

Of course you would. I'd say in your case they either ****ed up or made due
because it was a **** job for little pay.

On the other hand, you are an RAO
>gasbag who lives in an audio fantasyland, and you have not a
>clue about what you are talking about when it comes to what
>I have accomplished and when it comes to audio.

You have accomplished nothing of note. Note.
>
>

Sander deWaal
October 21st 04, 07:44 PM
Howard Ferstler > said:

>Hello, Peasants,

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Sander deWaal
October 21st 04, 07:53 PM
Howard Ferstler > said:

>It is you clowns, with your moronic views concerning audio,
>who have problems with knowledge and judgment.

Howard,

Did you *ever* convert one of the "loonies" to your views?

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Howard Ferstler
October 27th 04, 01:09 AM
Robert Morein wrote:

> Not necessarily. Hopefully, your book will be discarded as worthless.
>
> Howard, your book is like The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire without the
> rise.

Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.

Incidentally, I have already been paid for my work, so
trying to limit the book sales will have no impact on me at
all. Well, you would not get anywhere, anyway, because the
target purchasers are academic and music libraries.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 27th 04, 01:21 AM
Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >
> >> **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly
> >> the
> >> same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files
> >> burned
> >> on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as
> >> many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all
> >> get excited. I might even buy a copy.
> >
> > The wood for virtually all books these days comes from
> > pine-tree farms right down here in my area.
>
> **So, the trees are not killed?

Give me a break. The paper pulp comes from tree farms. Are
you worried that perhaps the trees feel pain? Newspapers use
thousands of times more pulp wood than book publishers.

> > As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I
> > suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a
> > cave.

> **My home is built from clay bricks.

Including the interior and furnishings? Must be quite a
place.

> > PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual
> > looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is
> > through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing.
> > What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it.

> **Are you seriously suggesting that your book will be relevant to anything
> in 100 years? In fact, as we both know very well, it will be outdated by the
> time the presses start rolling. It will be almost useless as any kind of
> reference within 5 years. Tops. A disk makes far more sense, for such an
> ephemeral product.

Actually, while my technical contributions to the
publication will become dated pretty fast, the biographical
sketches I did of quite a large number of audio notables
(engineers, designers, journalists, etc.) should hold up for
quite some time. In addition, the vast bulk of The
Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is devoted to musical topics,
including biographical sketches of various musicians (pop,
jazz, country, and classical), musical genera, composition
techniques, recorded music history, etc. It is much more
than a book by Howard Ferstler.

By the way, I was pretty generous with the life-span I noted
for a disc-storage medium. Instead of 100 years, I should
have said 10 years. As any librarian about long-term storage
issues with digital formats.

> > Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged.

> **Please address my points about the rip-off pricing of your book, relative
> to a disk, which would cost far less to produce, consume far less of the
> planet's resources and would reach a far wider audience.

Actually, I worked in a library for over three decades, and
the disc-format versions of various encyclopedias were
almost as expensive as the paper versions. They were
considerably less durable, too.

> Or do you think
> that rip-off pricing when applied to books is OK, but not when applied to
> (say) speaker cables.

Exotic and expensive speaker cables are indeed a ripoff, and
it is unfortunate that people like you seem to think that
they are a big deal. I am not sure if you are deluded or
corrupt. Probably a bit of both.

By the way, here are two interesting commentaries on super
cables (from John Dunlavy and Ken Kantor):

http://home.new.rr.com/zaph/audio/johndunlavyonwire.htm

http://home.new.rr.com/zaph/audio/kenkantoronwire.htm

> Here's a thought: I am still using some expensive speaker cable I purchased
> nearly 20 years ago. I'll betcha the purchasers of your book won't be able
> to say that.

I have lamp cords in operation that are older than 20 years.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 27th 04, 01:22 AM
Powell wrote:
>
> "Howard Ferstler" wrote
>
> > Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler
> >
> Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book
> sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)?

Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and
editing.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 27th 04, 01:23 AM
Robert Morein wrote:
>
> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Robert Morein wrote:
> >
> > > You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have
> taken
> > > for my own."
> > > BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip].
> > > I've just returned the favor.
> >
> > Your gasbag proclamations notwithstanding, I still win and
> > you still lose.
> >
> > Perhaps your local academic or technical library will order
> > a copy of the book for you to read and learn from.
> >
> > Edit away, gasbag.
> >
> > Howard Ferstler
>
> How dare you demean me with cheap insults, you ****faced mother****er.

Grow up, gasbag.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 27th 04, 01:26 AM
Sander deWaal wrote:

> Did you *ever* convert one of the "loonies" to your views?

Never. There is no cure. However, showing up the loonies for
what they are may perhaps help to keep otherwise rational
types from becoming infected.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 27th 04, 01:27 AM
S888Wheel wrote:

> You have accomplished nothing of note. Note.

Only by the delusion related standards of a gasbag like you.

Howard Ferstler

Clyde Slick
October 27th 04, 01:35 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...

> Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
> a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
> remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
>

You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
more the chimp than the gorilla.
Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
while Zakhan is away.

S888Wheel
October 27th 04, 03:13 AM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/26/2004 5:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>
>> You have accomplished nothing of note. Note.
>
>Only by the delusion related standards of a gasbag like you.
>

What writer with any sense of dignity would ever post such poor writing in a
public forum? "Delusion related standards?" It may be idiotic but at least it's
your writing. Note. So have you rented your tux fior the Pulitzer Prize
presentations? LMAO

S888Wheel
October 27th 04, 03:17 AM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/26/2004 5:09 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Robert Morein wrote:
>
>> Not necessarily. Hopefully, your book will be discarded as worthless.
>>
>> Howard, your book is like The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire without
>the
>> rise.
>
>Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
>a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
>remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.

You remind my of a gorilla trying to be a writer of note. Note.
>
>Incidentally, I have already been paid for my work,

So has my gardener.

so
>trying to limit the book sales will have no impact on me at
>all. Well, you would not get anywhere, anyway, because the
>target purchasers are academic and music libraries.

Trying to limmit the sales of this book would be like calling for a Boycott on
Gigli.

S888Wheel
October 27th 04, 03:20 AM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/26/2004 5:21 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> >
>> >> **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly
>> >> the
>> >> same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files
>> >> burned
>> >> on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill
>as
>> >> many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may
>all
>> >> get excited. I might even buy a copy.
>> >
>> > The wood for virtually all books these days comes from
>> > pine-tree farms right down here in my area.
>>
>> **So, the trees are not killed?
>
>Give me a break. The paper pulp comes from tree farms. Are
>you worried that perhaps the trees feel pain? Newspapers use
>thousands of times more pulp wood than book publishers.

In the case of this book, perhaps we could quote Carl Sagan and say billions
and billions times more.

paul packer
October 27th 04, 06:49 AM
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:22:35 -0400, Howard Ferstler
> wrote:

>Powell wrote:
>>
>> "Howard Ferstler" wrote
>>
>> > Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler
>> >
>> Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book
>> sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)?
>
>Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and
>editing.
>
>Howard Ferstler

Yes, but where can you spend $5.50 and get anything worthwhile?

Zakhann
October 29th 04, 06:53 AM
"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message >...
> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
> > a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
> > remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
> >
>
> You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
> more the chimp than the gorilla.
> Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
> while Zakhan is away.

I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of your ass!!

Marc Phillips
October 29th 04, 01:51 PM
Zakhann said:

>"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>...
>> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
>> > a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
>> > remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
>> >
>>
>> You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
>> more the chimp than the gorilla.
>> Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
>> while Zakhan is away.
>
> I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of your
>ass!!

No, you're someone's sockpuppet, which is why you immediately responded after
being mentioned for the first time in months. How pathetically transparent.

Boon

dave weil
October 29th 04, 02:06 PM
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:14:08 -0400, Howard Ferstler
> wrote:

>Clyde Slick wrote:
>>
>> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Clyde Slick wrote:
>> >
>> >> Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound
>> >> better
>> >
>> > Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book.
>
>> I am sure you have 2 cd players.
>
>I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however.

I'm sorry that your DVD players won't play CDs. My sympathies.

dave weil
October 29th 04, 02:10 PM
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:22:35 -0400, Howard Ferstler
> wrote:

>Powell wrote:
>>
>> "Howard Ferstler" wrote
>>
>> > Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler
>> >
>> Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book
>> sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)?
>
>Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and
>editing.
>
>Howard Ferstler

Hence 7 DVD players instead of 6.

paul packer
October 29th 04, 03:07 PM
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:05:56 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
> wrote:

>> I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however.

Just as a matter of curiousity, what does one do with seven DVD
players? Watch seven movies at once?

S888Wheel
October 29th 04, 04:02 PM
>From: (paul packer)
>Date: 10/29/2004 7:07 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:05:56 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
> wrote:
>
>>> I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however.
>
>Just as a matter of curiousity, what does one do with seven DVD
>players? Watch seven movies at once?
>
>
>
>
>
>

I have five of them and none of them are hooked up to audio systems. Seven
doesn't seem such an outrageous amount. It's just silly to think this is
something to brag about. But then Howard thinks 3,000 dollar loaner amps are
something to brag about. No wonder high end audio haunts him so much.

Sander deWaal
October 29th 04, 04:10 PM
(paul packer) said:

>>> I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however.

>Just as a matter of curiousity, what does one do with seven DVD
>players? Watch seven movies at once?

Bragging rights.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Zakhann
October 29th 04, 08:25 PM
(Marc Phillips) wrote in message >...
> Zakhann said:
>
> >"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
> >...
> >> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
> >> > a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
> >> > remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
> >> >
> >>
> >> You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
> >> more the chimp than the gorilla.
> >> Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
> >> while Zakhan is away.
> >
> > I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of your
> >ass!!
>
> No, you're someone's sockpuppet, which is why you immediately responded after
> being mentioned for the first time in months. How pathetically transparent.
>
> Boon

That's right Ba-foon I'm always lurking. You should be happy that I
have given your ass some time to heal, now I'm ready to take few more
juicy bites out of your SORRY ass again.

The Pit Bull is back, watch out!!


BTW, where are your two butt brothers (I mean that literally), Weasel
and George Minus?

Lionel
October 29th 04, 08:47 PM
Zakhann wrote:
> (Marc Phillips) wrote in message >...
>
>>Zakhann said:
>>
>>
>>>"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>...
>>>
>>>>"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
>>>>>a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
>>>>>remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
>>>>more the chimp than the gorilla.
>>>>Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
>>>>while Zakhan is away.
>>>
>>>I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of your
>>>ass!!
>>
>>No, you're someone's sockpuppet, which is why you immediately responded after
>>being mentioned for the first time in months. How pathetically transparent.
>>
>>Boon
>
>
> That's right Ba-foon I'm always lurking. You should be happy that I
> have given your ass some time to heal, now I'm ready to take few more
> juicy bites out of your SORRY ass again.
>
> The Pit Bull is back, watch out!!
>
>
> BTW, where are your two butt brothers (I mean that literally), Weasel
> and George Minus?

LOL !

Clyde Slick
October 30th 04, 03:06 AM
"Zakhann" > wrote in message
om...
> (Marc Phillips) wrote in message
> >...
>> Zakhann said:
>>
>> >"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>> >...
>> >> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> > Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
>> >> > a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
>> >> > remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
>> >> more the chimp than the gorilla.
>> >> Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
>> >> while Zakhan is away.
>> >
>> > I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of
>> > your
>> >ass!!
>>
>> No, you're someone's sockpuppet, which is why you immediately responded
>> after
>> being mentioned for the first time in months. How pathetically
>> transparent.
>>
>> Boon
>
> That's right Ba-foon I'm always lurking. You should be happy that I
> have given your ass some time to heal, now I'm ready to take few more
> juicy bites out of your SORRY ass again.
>
> The Pit Bull is back, watch out!!
>

The only person I know who is as stupid as you are is purported to live in
France.

Clyde Slick
October 30th 04, 03:08 AM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Zakhann wrote:
>> (Marc Phillips) wrote in message
>> >...
>>
>>>Zakhann said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>...
>>>>
>>>>>"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
>>>>>>a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
>>>>>>remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
>>>>>more the chimp than the gorilla.
>>>>>Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
>>>>>while Zakhan is away.
>>>>
>>>>I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of
>>>>your
>>>>ass!!
>>>
>>>No, you're someone's sockpuppet, which is why you immediately responded
>>>after
>>>being mentioned for the first time in months. How pathetically
>>>transparent.
>>>
>>>Boon
>>
>>
>> That's right Ba-foon I'm always lurking. You should be happy that I
>> have given your ass some time to heal, now I'm ready to take few more
>> juicy bites out of your SORRY ass again.
>>
>> The Pit Bull is back, watch out!!
>>
>>
>> BTW, where are your two butt brothers (I mean that literally), Weasel
>> and George Minus?
>
> LOL !

You know, that is a very impolite thing to do.
Also, it is the sign of a bad comic

Marc Phillips
October 30th 04, 03:32 AM
Zakhann said:

(Marc Phillips) wrote in message
>...
>> Zakhann said:
>>
>> >"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>> >...
>> >> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> > Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite
>> >> > a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You
>> >> > remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are
>> >> more the chimp than the gorilla.
>> >> Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy
>> >> while Zakhan is away.
>> >
>> > I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of
>your
>> >ass!!
>>
>> No, you're someone's sockpuppet, which is why you immediately responded
>after
>> being mentioned for the first time in months. How pathetically
>transparent.
>>
>> Boon
>
> That's right Ba-foon I'm always lurking. You should be happy that I
>have given your ass some time to heal, now I'm ready to take few more
>juicy bites out of your SORRY ass again.

When have you ever taken a bite out of my ass? All I ever remember are your
malformed, spastic attempts at insults, and your hasty exit when the rebuttal
is ten times as devastating as you expected.

>
>The Pit Bull is back, watch out!!

A toothless pit bull with a bad diarrhea problem, you mean.

>
>
>BTW, where are your two butt brothers (I mean that literally), Weasel
>and George Minus?

I don't know who you're talking about. Say, you just told me that you're
"always lurking." I guess that would be a lie, or else you would know the
answer.

Dude, you are SO weak. But it interesting to know for sure that you are the
sockpuppet of an RAO regular. Perhaps we've finally found out Arny's AOL
screen name.

Boon

Howard Ferstler
October 30th 04, 10:53 PM
"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Brother Horace does his Dance of Shame.
>
> > Actually, it is not MY book at all.
>
> That must be some stellar work, Clerkie. You've been thumping your
> scrawny chest for weeks about it, but when the rubber meets the road,
> suddenly it's "not your book".
>
> What are you afraid of?

You obviously do not know much about the mainstream
publishing business, particularly outfits that produce
encyclopedia-type books.

If you are interested, go scare up a copy of the book (have
your local library order a copy), and see what you think of
it. Because it has a large number of articles by other
people besides Ferstler, you might even enjoy some sections.
It is certainly guaranteed that you would learn something.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 30th 04, 10:56 PM
S888Wheel wrote:

> Trying to limmit the sales of this book would be like calling for a Boycott on
> Gigli.

You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
participants here about just what it is all about.

PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers. At its
list price big sales numbers are not required.

PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 30th 04, 10:58 PM
dave weil wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:22:35 -0400, Howard Ferstler
> > wrote:
>
> >Powell wrote:
> >>
> >> "Howard Ferstler" wrote
> >>
> >> > Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler
> >> >
> >> Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book
> >> sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)?
> >
> >Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and
> >editing.
> >
> >Howard Ferstler

> Hence 7 DVD players instead of 6.

Routledge pays in real money, Dave. You need to get out
more.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 30th 04, 11:00 PM
S888Wheel wrote:
>
> >From: Howard Ferstler
> >Date: 10/26/2004 5:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >S888Wheel wrote:
> >
> >> You have accomplished nothing of note. Note.
> >
> >Only by the delusion related standards of a gasbag like you.

> What writer with any sense of dignity would ever post such poor writing in a
> public forum? "Delusion related standards?" It may be idiotic but at least it's
> your writing. Note. So have you rented your tux fior the Pulitzer Prize
> presentations? LMAO

I am still published (by mainstream publishers and with
opinions that run counter to the tweako-freako party line),
whereas you are still an RAO gasbag.

Rant on, gasbag.
Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
October 30th 04, 11:52 PM
"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> More penance and self-flagelation from the ever-humble Brother Horace.
>
> > > > Actually, it is not MY book at all.
> > >
> > > That must be some stellar work, Clerkie. You've been thumping your
> > > scrawny chest for weeks about it, but when the rubber meets the road,
> > > suddenly it's "not your book".
> > >
> > > What are you afraid of?
> >
> > You obviously do not know
>
> That you're a shameless liar, plagiarist, and libeler? Wrong, Clerkie.
> I believe what I see.

I win; you lose, gasbag.

Howard Ferstler

MINe 109
October 31st 04, 12:08 AM
In article >,
Howard Ferstler > wrote:

> S888Wheel wrote:
>
> > Trying to limmit the sales of this book would be like calling for a Boycott
> > on
> > Gigli.

I love my Gigli collection on Pearl. Vinyl box set. He could sob through
an aria like nobody's business.

> You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
> actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
> participants here about just what it is all about.
>
> PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers. At its
> list price big sales numbers are not required.
>
> PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
> me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
> you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.

There's a chapter on Scott's idiosyncrasies in the Routledge?

Stephen

Clyde Slick
October 31st 04, 12:40 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> "George M. Middius" wrote:
>>
>> Brother Horace does his Dance of Shame.
>>
>> > Actually, it is not MY book at all.
>>
>> That must be some stellar work, Clerkie. You've been thumping your
>> scrawny chest for weeks about it, but when the rubber meets the road,
>> suddenly it's "not your book".
>>
>> What are you afraid of?
>
> You obviously do not know much about the mainstream
> publishing business, particularly outfits that produce
> encyclopedia-type books.
>
> If you are interested, go scare up a copy of the book (have
> your local library order a copy), and see what you think of
> it. Because it has a large number of articles by other
> people besides Ferstler, you might even enjoy some sections.
> It is certainly guaranteed that you would learn something.
>

Tomorrow is Halloween. If my neighbors don't give me any candy,
I'll leave a copy of Fertler's TEORS on their stoop..
That'll scare them.

Clyde Slick
October 31st 04, 12:41 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> S888Wheel wrote:
>
>> Trying to limmit the sales of this book would be like calling for a
>> Boycott on
>> Gigli.
>
> You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
> actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
> participants here about just what it is all about.
>
> PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers. At its
> list price big sales numbers are not required.
>
> PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
> me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
> you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
>
> Howard Ferstler

Not as much fun as we have pointing out your 'idiotsyncrasies'.

S888Wheel
October 31st 04, 03:03 AM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/30/2004 2:56 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>
>> Trying to limmit the sales of this book would be like calling for a Boycott
>on
>> Gigli.
>
>You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
>actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
>participants here about just what it is all about.

You've said plenty about it fart breath.


>
>PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers.

I wouldn't expect any book that involves you as a writer to aim anywhere but
the bottom.

At its
>list price big sales numbers are not required.

Let us know when it breaks double digit sales. LOL.


>
>PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
>me and my published materials.

No doubt, you'll take any attention of any kind so long as someone notices you.

it must come close to killing
>you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.

Death by laughter? Monty Python came up with that first.

S888Wheel
October 31st 04, 03:04 AM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/30/2004 3:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"George M. Middius" wrote:
>>
>> More penance and self-flagelation from the ever-humble Brother Horace.
>>
>> > > > Actually, it is not MY book at all.
>> > >
>> > > That must be some stellar work, Clerkie. You've been thumping your
>> > > scrawny chest for weeks about it, but when the rubber meets the road,
>> > > suddenly it's "not your book".
>> > >
>> > > What are you afraid of?
>> >
>> > You obviously do not know
>>
>> That you're a shameless liar, plagiarist, and libeler? Wrong, Clerkie.
>> I believe what I see.
>
>I win; you lose, gasbag.
>

didn't Saddam make the same claim after Desert Storm?

S888Wheel
October 31st 04, 03:06 AM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/30/2004 2:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>dave weil wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:22:35 -0400, Howard Ferstler
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Powell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Howard Ferstler" wrote
>> >>
>> >> > Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler
>> >> >
>> >> Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book
>> >> sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)?
>> >
>> >Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and
>> >editing.
>> >
>> >Howard Ferstler
>
>> Hence 7 DVD players instead of 6.
>
>Routledge pays in real money,

So do penny slot machines.


Dave. You need to get out
>more.

So says the guy stricken with fear of crowds at classical concerts.

S888Wheel
October 31st 04, 03:07 AM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 10/30/2004 3:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>>
>> >From: Howard Ferstler
>> >Date: 10/26/2004 5:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >S888Wheel wrote:
>> >
>> >> You have accomplished nothing of note. Note.
>> >
>> >Only by the delusion related standards of a gasbag like you.
>
>> What writer with any sense of dignity would ever post such poor writing in
>a
>> public forum? "Delusion related standards?" It may be idiotic but at least
>it's
>> your writing. Note. So have you rented your tux fior the Pulitzer Prize
>> presentations? LMAO
>
>I am still published

So is Manson.

(by mainstream publishers and with
>opinions that run counter to the tweako-freako party line),

Prove it.


>whereas you are still an RAO gasbag.
>
>Rant on, gasbag.
>Howard Ferstler
>
>
>
>
>
>

Bruce J. Richman
October 31st 04, 04:01 AM
Scott Wheeler wrote:


>>From: Howard Ferstler
>>Date: 10/30/2004 3:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>"George M. Middius" wrote:
>>>
>>> More penance and self-flagelation from the ever-humble Brother Horace.
>>>
>>> > > > Actually, it is not MY book at all.
>>> > >
>>> > > That must be some stellar work, Clerkie. You've been thumping your
>>> > > scrawny chest for weeks about it, but when the rubber meets the road,
>>> > > suddenly it's "not your book".
>>> > >
>>> > > What are you afraid of?
>>> >
>>> > You obviously do not know
>>>
>>> That you're a shameless liar, plagiarist, and libeler? Wrong, Clerkie.
>>> I believe what I see.
>>
>>I win; you lose, gasbag.
>>
>
>didn't Saddam make the same claim after Desert Storm?
>
>

Since Ferstler is mentally ill with delusions of grandeur and claims to talk to
the dead (through a command auditory hallucination system a la Joan of Arc),
his pronouncements represent the results of progressive psychosis.


Bruce J. Richman

dave weil
October 31st 04, 02:10 PM
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:58:06 -0400, Howard Ferstler
> wrote:

>dave weil wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:22:35 -0400, Howard Ferstler
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Powell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Howard Ferstler" wrote
>> >>
>> >> > Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler
>> >> >
>> >> Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book
>> >> sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)?
>> >
>> >Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and
>> >editing.
>> >
>> >Howard Ferstler
>
>> Hence 7 DVD players instead of 6.
>
>Routledge pays in real money, Dave. You need to get out
>more.

You really need to read better, Howard. Last time I heard, $100 in
real money buys a decent DVD player.

paul packer
November 1st 04, 06:30 AM
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:58:06 -0400, Howard Ferstler
> wrote:


>Routledge pays in real money

Are you sure, Howard? Have you held it up to the light?

Howard Ferstler
November 4th 04, 04:23 PM
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote:

> Since Ferstler is mentally ill with delusions of grandeur and claims to talk to
> the dead (through a command auditory hallucination system a la Joan of Arc),
> his pronouncements represent the results of progressive psychosis.
>
> Bruce J. Richman

You make a pretty good phony, Richman.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
November 4th 04, 04:25 PM
MINe 109 wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Howard Ferstler > wrote:

> > You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
> > actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
> > participants here about just what it is all about.
> >
> > PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers. At its
> > list price big sales numbers are not required.
> >
> > PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
> > me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
> > you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.

> There's a chapter on Scott's idiosyncrasies in the Routledge?
>
> Stephen

I make fun of his idiosyncrasies all over the place. Scott
is basically an "everyman" example of tweako audiophiles.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
November 4th 04, 04:26 PM
Clyde Slick wrote:
>
> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
> ...

> > PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
> > me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
> > you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
> >
> > Howard Ferstler

> Not as much fun as we have pointing out your 'idiotsyncrasies'.

But I am still published, Mr. Slick. Your commentaries may
be self congratulatory but they do not amount to a hill of
beans.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
November 4th 04, 04:28 PM
S888Wheel wrote:
>
> >From: Howard Ferstler

> it must come close to killing
> >you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.

> Death by laughter? Monty Python came up with that first.

I'm still published, slick, and you are just another RAO
gasbag who shouts into the void and listens for an echo.

Howard Ferstler

Clyde Slick
November 5th 04, 02:11 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>>
>> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>> > PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
>> > me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
>> > you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
>> >
>> > Howard Ferstler
>
>> Not as much fun as we have pointing out your 'idiotsyncrasies'.
>
> But I am still published, Mr. Slick. Your commentaries may
> be self congratulatory but they do not amount to a hill of
> beans.
>
>

"At least" I am not habitually polluting TSS readers with
bad advice.

S888Wheel
November 5th 04, 03:06 PM
>Subject: Re: Ferstler Announces
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 11/4/2004 8:28 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>>
>> >From: Howard Ferstler
>
>> it must come close to killing
>> >you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
>
>> Death by laughter? Monty Python came up with that first.
>
>I'm still published, slick,

You are still a plagiarist, a fraud and a hack,Clyde.

and you are just another RAO
>gasbag who shouts into the void and listens for an echo.

And you keep projecting. Get a life.

S888Wheel
November 5th 04, 03:08 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 11/4/2004 8:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>MINe 109 wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> Howard Ferstler > wrote:
>
>> > You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
>> > actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
>> > participants here about just what it is all about.
>> >
>> > PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers. At its
>> > list price big sales numbers are not required.
>> >
>> > PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
>> > me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
>> > you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
>
>> There's a chapter on Scott's idiosyncrasies in the Routledge?
>>
>> Stephen
>
>I make fun of his idiosyncrasies all over the place. Scott
>is basically an "everyman" example of tweako audiophiles.
>
>
>
>
Wouldn't you like to make the everyman status someday Howard? It sucks being at
the bottom doesn't it?

John Atkinson
November 6th 04, 02:15 PM
Howard Ferstler > wrote in message
>...
> I am still published, Mr. Slick.

Good for you, Mr. Ferstler. But as I have said before, when you
claim the high ground on the grounds of being published, you
pale in comparison with those who are _more_ published?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Howard Ferstler
November 10th 04, 04:06 PM
S888Wheel wrote:
>
> >From: Howard Ferstler
> >Date: 11/4/2004 8:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >MINe 109 wrote:
> >>
> >> In article >,
> >> Howard Ferstler > wrote:
> >
> >> > You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
> >> > actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
> >> > participants here about just what it is all about.
> >> >
> >> > PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers. At its
> >> > list price big sales numbers are not required.
> >> >
> >> > PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
> >> > me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
> >> > you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
> >
> >> There's a chapter on Scott's idiosyncrasies in the Routledge?
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >
> >I make fun of his idiosyncrasies all over the place. Scott
> >is basically an "everyman" example of tweako audiophiles.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Wouldn't you like to make the everyman status someday Howard? It sucks being at
> the bottom doesn't it?

I'm published (big time with that Encyclopedia work) and you
are an RAO sockpuppet who posts continuously on this
newsgroup. You tell me who is at the bottom, Mr. Get A Life.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
November 10th 04, 04:07 PM
John Atkinson wrote:
>
> Howard Ferstler > wrote in message
> >...
> > I am still published, Mr. Slick.
>
> Good for you, Mr. Ferstler. But as I have said before, when you
> claim the high ground on the grounds of being published, you
> pale in comparison with those who are _more_ published?
>
> John Atkinson
> Editor, Stereophile

Hi, John,

Remember, pornography, comic books, and bad-advice audio
articles really do not count.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
November 10th 04, 04:08 PM
S888Wheel wrote:
>
> >Subject: Re: Ferstler Announces
> >From: Howard Ferstler
> >Date: 11/4/2004 8:28 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >S888Wheel wrote:
> >>
> >> >From: Howard Ferstler
> >
> >> it must come close to killing
> >> >you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
> >
> >> Death by laughter? Monty Python came up with that first.
> >
> >I'm still published, slick,
>
> You are still a plagiarist, a fraud and a hack,Clyde.
>
> and you are just another RAO
> >gasbag who shouts into the void and listens for an echo.
>
> And you keep projecting. Get a life.

I win and you lose, sockpuppet. What's more, all three of my
audio systems are better than yours.

Haw, haw, haawwww....

Howard Ferstler

Arny Krueger
November 10th 04, 04:31 PM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message


> S888Wheel wrote:
>>

>> Wouldn't you like to make the everyman status someday Howard? It
>> sucks being at the bottom doesn't it?

> I'm published (big time with that Encyclopedia work) and you
> are an RAO sockpuppet who posts continuously on this
> newsgroup. You tell me who is at the bottom, Mr. Get A Life.


Howard, you should contrast your sucessful publication with Scott Wheeler
(AKA S888Wheel) who is so embarassed and humiliated by his own occupation,
that he won't say what it is on RAO.

You should also contrast that with Scott Wheeler (AKA S888Wheel) who has
nothing better to do with his weekly allowance but to file
readily-dismissable lawsuits in California Superior Court.

Given that Scott could easily tell any lie he wanted, it seems truely
pathetic that he busies himself with such trivia.

Arny Krueger
November 10th 04, 04:32 PM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message

> John Atkinson wrote:
>>
>> Howard Ferstler > wrote in message
>> >...
>>> I am still published, Mr. Slick.
>>
>> Good for you, Mr. Ferstler. But as I have said before, when you
>> claim the high ground on the grounds of being published, you
>> pale in comparison with those who are _more_ published?
>>
>> John Atkinson
>> Editor, Stereophile
>
> Hi, John,
>
> Remember, pornography, comic books, and bad-advice audio
> articles really do not count.

Agreed. I guess we can interpret Atkinson's claims about having
more_published as an admission that he thinks that quantity is all that
really matters.

S888Wheel
November 10th 04, 08:46 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 11/10/2004 8:07 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>John Atkinson wrote:
>>
>> Howard Ferstler > wrote in message
>> >...
>> > I am still published, Mr. Slick.
>>
>> Good for you, Mr. Ferstler. But as I have said before, when you
>> claim the high ground on the grounds of being published, you
>> pale in comparison with those who are _more_ published?
>>
>> John Atkinson
>> Editor, Stereophile
>
>Hi, John,
>
>Remember, pornography, comic books, and bad-advice audio
>articles really do not count.
>

Then you don't count Howie. You lose.

S888Wheel
November 10th 04, 09:07 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 11/10/2004 8:06 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>>
>> >From: Howard Ferstler
>> >Date: 11/4/2004 8:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >MINe 109 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article >,
>> >> Howard Ferstler > wrote:
>> >
>> >> > You seem to already know a lot about this book (book set,
>> >> > actually). Perhaps you should enlighten some of the other
>> >> > participants here about just what it is all about.
>> >> >
>> >> > PS: books like this do not aim for big sales numbers. At its
>> >> > list price big sales numbers are not required.
>> >> >
>> >> > PPS: I love to see you little squealers rant and rave about
>> >> > me and my published materials. It must come close to killing
>> >> > you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
>> >
>> >> There's a chapter on Scott's idiosyncrasies in the Routledge?
>> >>
>> >> Stephen
>> >
>> >I make fun of his idiosyncrasies all over the place. Scott
>> >is basically an "everyman" example of tweako audiophiles.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Wouldn't you like to make the everyman status someday Howard? It sucks
>being at
>> the bottom doesn't it?
>
>I'm published (big time with that Encyclopedia work

Big time? Haw haw haw. what are the sales again? Did they reach double figures
yet?


) and you
>are an RAO sockpuppet who posts continuously on this
>newsgroup.

Not as much as you, Clyde.

You tell me who is at the bottom,

I did. Right over your head, Slick.

Mr. Get A Life.

That doesn't even make sense.

S888Wheel
November 10th 04, 09:09 PM
>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 11/10/2004 8:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message

>
>> S888Wheel wrote:
>>>
>
>>> Wouldn't you like to make the everyman status someday Howard? It
>>> sucks being at the bottom doesn't it?
>
>> I'm published (big time with that Encyclopedia work) and you
>> are an RAO sockpuppet who posts continuously on this
>> newsgroup. You tell me who is at the bottom, Mr. Get A Life.
>
>
>Howard, you should contrast your sucessful publication with Scott Wheeler
>(AKA S888Wheel) who is so embarassed and humiliated by his own occupation,
>that he won't say what it is on RAO.

That would make for an amusing contrast. Maybe you should tell him Arny. It
only took you a year to figure it out.


>
>You should also contrast that with Scott Wheeler (AKA S888Wheel) who has
>nothing better to do with his weekly allowance but to file
>readily-dismissable lawsuits in California Superior Court.
>
>Given that Scott could easily tell any lie he wanted, it seems truely
>pathetic that he busies himself with such trivia.

So you are trivial? Fair enough.

S888Wheel
November 10th 04, 09:10 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 11/10/2004 8:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>S888Wheel wrote:
>>
>> >Subject: Re: Ferstler Announces
>> >From: Howard Ferstler
>> >Date: 11/4/2004 8:28 AM Pacific Standard Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >S888Wheel wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >From: Howard Ferstler
>> >
>> >> it must come close to killing
>> >> >you to have me make fun of your idiosyncrasies.
>> >
>> >> Death by laughter? Monty Python came up with that first.
>> >
>> >I'm still published, slick,
>>
>> You are still a plagiarist, a fraud and a hack,Clyde.
>>
>> and you are just another RAO
>> >gasbag who shouts into the void and listens for an echo.
>>
>> And you keep projecting. Get a life.
>
>I win and you lose, sockpuppet. What's more, all three of my
>audio systems are better than yours.
>
>Haw, haw, haawwww....
>

Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.

Arny Krueger
November 10th 04, 09:14 PM
"S888Wheel" > wrote in message


> Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.

Your preference for tubes and vinyl is proof that your hearing is shot.

S888Wheel
November 10th 04, 09:40 PM
>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 11/10/2004 1:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"S888Wheel" > wrote in message

>
>> Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.
>
>Your preference for tubes and vinyl is proof that your hearing is shot.
>
Your post is proof of your poor logic skills. Anytime you want to take hearing
tests and compare results just say the word. It will certainly put your
deduction to the test.

Arny Krueger
November 10th 04, 10:32 PM
"S888Wheel" > wrote in message

>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>> Date: 11/10/2004 1:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> Message-id: >
>>
>> "S888Wheel" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.
>>
>> Your preference for tubes and vinyl is proof that your hearing is
>> shot.

> Your post is proof of your poor logic skills.

Prove it.

> Anytime you want to take hearing tests and compare results just say the
> word.

I have no assurance that your claimed results would be anything but lies.
Furthermore standard hearing tests are well-known to be irrelevant to
ability to hear the failings of vinyl and tubes.

> It will certainly put your deduction to the test.

Not at all.

S888Wheel
November 11th 04, 07:03 AM
>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 11/10/2004 2:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"S888Wheel" > wrote in message

>>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>>> Date: 11/10/2004 1:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>> Message-id: >
>>>
>>> "S888Wheel" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>> Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.
>>>
>>> Your preference for tubes and vinyl is proof that your hearing is
>>> shot.
>
>> Your post is proof of your poor logic skills.
>
>Prove it.

I offered to prove it. You are too scared to take me up on it. Same old same
old.


>
>> Anytime you want to take hearing tests and compare results just say the
>> word.
>
>I have no assurance that your claimed results would be anything but lies.

IOW you are chicken. Nothing new.


>Furthermore standard hearing tests are well-known to be irrelevant to
>ability to hear the failings of vinyl and tubes.

Did I say "standard" hearing test dim wit? Man, nothing has happened and you
are already making excuses.


>
>> It will certainly put your deduction to the test.
>
>Not at all.

Idiot.

Arny Krueger
November 11th 04, 11:38 AM
"S888Wheel" > wrote in message


> Idiot.

Calling others like you?

John Atkinson
November 11th 04, 12:42 PM
Howard Ferstler > wrote in message
>...
> John Atkinson wrote:
> > when you claim the high ground on the grounds of being published, you
> > pale in comparison with those who are _more_ published?
>
> Remember, pornography, comic books...really do not count.

Not in this context, no. But I am not aware of any audiuo writers
who also write pornography or comic books. Ian Rankin, of course, is
a best-selling novelist, but that too, does not count.

> bad-advice audio articles...really do not count.

Your opinion of other audio writer's efforts is irrelevant. You were
claiming that being published at all is what matters. And that respect,
while you have been published, there are many audio writers who are
more widely published. Robert Harley, for example, has written as many
books as you have and has had many more magazine articles published.
By your argument, that makes him more notable than you are.

I am sure you will disagree, but that's my point: that you to keep
raising this issue as validation of your arguments is wrong.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Howard Ferstler
November 17th 04, 06:47 PM
Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>
>
> > S888Wheel wrote:
> >>
>
> >> Wouldn't you like to make the everyman status someday Howard? It
> >> sucks being at the bottom doesn't it?
>
> > I'm published (big time with that Encyclopedia work) and you
> > are an RAO sockpuppet who posts continuously on this
> > newsgroup. You tell me who is at the bottom, Mr. Get A Life.
>
> Howard, you should contrast your sucessful publication with Scott Wheeler
> (AKA S888Wheel) who is so embarassed and humiliated by his own occupation,
> that he won't say what it is on RAO.

This is because he is actually a pimple-faced teenager with
delusions about eventually purchasing an ultra-expensive
array of super-duper audio components.

> You should also contrast that with Scott Wheeler (AKA S888Wheel) who has
> nothing better to do with his weekly allowance but to file
> readily-dismissable lawsuits in California Superior Court.

All this over nothing more than insult-swapping contests on
RAO?

The guy needs to get a life. Because you have to be older
than 21 to file a lawsuit without parental consent, I guess
he is a pimple-faced adult instead of a teenager.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
November 17th 04, 06:50 PM
John Atkinson wrote:

> Your opinion of other audio writer's efforts is irrelevant. You were
> claiming that being published at all is what matters. And that respect,
> while you have been published, there are many audio writers who are
> more widely published. Robert Harley, for example, has written as many
> books as you have and has had many more magazine articles published.
> By your argument, that makes him more notable than you are.
>
> I am sure you will disagree, but that's my point: that you to keep
> raising this issue as validation of your arguments is wrong.
>
> John Atkinson
> Editor, Stereophile

John, I do it to annoy those guys. You ought to realize that
by now.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
November 17th 04, 06:51 PM
Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> "S888Wheel" > wrote in message
>
>
> > Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.
>
> Your preference for tubes and vinyl is proof that your hearing is shot.

He is a vinyl freak. Now I understand!

Haw, haw, haawww...

Howard Ferstler

Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt
November 19th 04, 02:19 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>> "S888Wheel" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>> > Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.
>>
>> Your preference for tubes and vinyl is proof that your hearing is shot.
>
> He is a vinyl freak. Now I understand!
>
> Haw, haw, haawww...
>
Ahh...the battle cry of the impotent.

Cheers,

Margaret

S888Wheel
November 20th 04, 03:23 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 11/17/2004 10:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>> "Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>> > S888Wheel wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> >> Wouldn't you like to make the everyman status someday Howard? It
>> >> sucks being at the bottom doesn't it?
>>
>> > I'm published (big time with that Encyclopedia work) and you
>> > are an RAO sockpuppet who posts continuously on this
>> > newsgroup. You tell me who is at the bottom, Mr. Get A Life.
>>
>> Howard, you should contrast your sucessful publication with Scott Wheeler
>> (AKA S888Wheel) who is so embarassed and humiliated by his own occupation,
>> that he won't say what it is on RAO.
>
>This is because he is actually a pimple-faced teenager with
>delusions about eventually purchasing an ultra-expensive
>array of super-duper audio components.

LOL I guess the thought of really taking Arny's suggestion is just too
disturbing.


>
>> You should also contrast that with Scott Wheeler (AKA S888Wheel) who has
>> nothing better to do with his weekly allowance but to file
>> readily-dismissable lawsuits in California Superior Court.
>
>All this over nothing more than insult-swapping contests on
>RAO?

I suppose social misfits are comfortable with false accusations of pedophilia.


>
>The guy needs to get a life.

Should I buy a drill press? Haw haw haw.


Because you have to be older
>than 21 to file a lawsuit without parental consent, I guess
>he is a pimple-faced adult instead of a teenager.

Grow a brain.

S888Wheel
November 20th 04, 03:24 PM
>From: Howard Ferstler
>Date: 11/17/2004 10:51 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>> "S888Wheel" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>> > Maybe if my hearing were damaged like yours I might agree.
>>
>> Your preference for tubes and vinyl is proof that your hearing is shot.
>
>He is a vinyl freak. Now I understand!
>
>Haw, haw, haawww...


You? Understand? Haw haw hawwww....

Howard Ferstler
November 23rd 04, 05:06 PM
The Devil wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:50:10 -0500, Howard Ferstler
> > wrote:
>
> >John, I do it to annoy those guys. You ought to realize that
> >by now.
>
> But no one is annoyed, Howie. Everyone is laughing at you.

The important thing is WHO is laughing. Believe me, laughing
at anything by a bunch of deluded jerks is no big deal.

> I'm not complaining, of course. I like to laugh at silly things too.

So I gather.

> But I do feel embarrassed for you.

I appreciate the sympathies. However, remember that RAO is
basically a bunch of losers who have little else to do but
dial up the group and play goofy games. This is one reason
that lately I only show up every four or five days and
rapidly read threads and insert a few insults.

There is little to say about audio here, and even when
someone does post something about the header topic a flame
war usually results.

I will say that on the whole most audio enthusiasts (really
serious ones, and certainly the bulk of those who post here)
are nitwits. Note that I said most; not all.

Howard Ferstler

Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt
November 23rd 04, 05:14 PM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
: However, remember that RAO is
> basically a bunch of losers who have little else to do but
> dial up the group and play goofy games.

However, they are not impotent old eunuchs like you, Howard.

Cheers,

Margaret

Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt
November 29th 04, 11:35 AM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> The Devil wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:50:10 -0500, Howard Ferstler
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >John, I do it to annoy those guys. You ought to realize that
>> >by now.
>>
>> But no one is annoyed, Howie. Everyone is laughing at you.
>
> The important thing is

Garbage deleted.

Cheers,

Margaret

Zakhann
November 29th 04, 06:24 PM
(Marc Phillips) wrote in message >...
> Mr. Middius said:
>
> >The Devil said:
> >
> >> Errr. I just tried to access the filter menu by minimising this window
> >> and seem to have ****ed up. Since I haven't much experience using or
> >> modifying the filters, my apologies to those who think the following
> >> is idiotic. I thought if I selected 'add filter' it would take me to a
> >> menu where I could read and edit a list of people I have filtered (I'm
> >> using Agent, not Outlook, as seems to be the case from my headers).
> >> Instead, since you are the person I'm replying to, Agent decided to
> >> add you to my kill filter list. I guess this is where we say goodbye.
> >
> >I prefer to glance at Harold's drones. Sometimes there's something worth
> >mocking, although usually he's simply reposting the same tripe for the
> >fourth or fifth time. Apparently he can't get shake the verbosity habit,
> >presumably because in his "published" drivel, he gets paid by the word.
>
> I do have to admit that I'm amazed at how Howard runs into brick wall after
> brick wall like some wind-up toy. It's fun to watch him get all frustrated and
> then utter the "Ferstler **** You"...which is nothing more than a pained,
> feeble "Get a life."
>
> I'm also amused with the fact that he takes four or five days betwen posting
> flurries. It's as if he gets utterly destroyed here, and it takes him that
> long to get his courage back up to try it again. He can't help it, after all,
> because he's hopelessly addicted to RAO.
>
> Boon

And he calls me weak. After reading many of your stupid post and your
continued feebled attacks against those who possess knowledge way
above yours, it is clear to me that you still don't having anything to
offer RAO.

Howard Ferstler: Author and equipment reviewer (Sensible Sound Mag)

Arny Kruger: Scholar, Engineer and inventor.

Ba-foon: A fool, a joke, loser and a second rate punk that doesn't
contribute any knowledge to RAO.

Howard Ferstler
December 12th 04, 08:50 PM
Paul Dormer wrote:
>
> "George M. Middius" emitted :
>
> >I prefer to glance at Harold's drones. Sometimes there's something worth
> >mocking,
>
> Me too. When the mood takes you it's good to have something to work
> off. Admittedly, I do tend to delete all of his posts before I see
> them, and he is probably the most boring ******* I've had the
> displeasure to meet on the internet. I don't think I've ever made it
> through a whole, normal length post of his. Does anybody not feel
> drowsy after the first couple of sentences?

Baloney. For some of you clowns, your worlds revolve around
my posts and you pour over them and become demoralized at
your own ignorance. Nevertheless, if I take a few days off
many of you probably take to drink.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler

Clyde Slick
December 12th 04, 11:02 PM
"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
...
> Paul Dormer wrote:
>>
>> "George M. Middius" emitted :
>>
>> >I prefer to glance at Harold's drones. Sometimes there's something worth
>> >mocking,
>>
>> Me too. When the mood takes you it's good to have something to work
>> off. Admittedly, I do tend to delete all of his posts before I see
>> them, and he is probably the most boring ******* I've had the
>> displeasure to meet on the internet. I don't think I've ever made it
>> through a whole, normal length post of his. Does anybody not feel
>> drowsy after the first couple of sentences?
>
> Baloney. For some of you clowns, your worlds revolve around
> my posts and you pour over them and become demoralized at
> your own ignorance. Nevertheless, if I take a few days off
> many of you probably take to drink.
>
> Howard Ferstler
>


Salud!!!! "at least" until your next arrival

dave weil
December 13th 04, 01:22 PM
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:50:18 -0500, Howard Ferstler
> wrote:

>Paul Dormer wrote:
>>
>> "George M. Middius" emitted :
>>
>> >I prefer to glance at Harold's drones. Sometimes there's something worth
>> >mocking,
>>
>> Me too. When the mood takes you it's good to have something to work
>> off. Admittedly, I do tend to delete all of his posts before I see
>> them, and he is probably the most boring ******* I've had the
>> displeasure to meet on the internet. I don't think I've ever made it
>> through a whole, normal length post of his. Does anybody not feel
>> drowsy after the first couple of sentences?
>
>Baloney. For some of you clowns, your worlds revolve around
>my posts and you pour over them and become demoralized at
>your own ignorance. Nevertheless, if I take a few days off
>many of you probably take to drink.

Actually, you seem to have the opposite effect on me. Now that you've
returned, I seem to have a desperate need for a stiff drink.

Howard Ferstler
December 15th 04, 06:29 PM
"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> The Semiliterate Clerk bumbled:
>
> > my posts and you pour over them
>
> You left out the key word there, Harold. We pour scorn, or ridicule, or
> derision, or sneering on your posts. Pick a word. Just don't leave it out
> completely.

Scorn, ridicule, derision, or sneering from fairy tale
believing nitwits does not really mean much.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler
December 15th 04, 06:31 PM
dave weil wrote:
>
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:50:18 -0500, Howard Ferstler
> > wrote:

> >Baloney. For some of you clowns, your worlds revolve around
> >my posts and you pour over them and become demoralized at
> >your own ignorance. Nevertheless, if I take a few days off
> >many of you probably take to drink.

> Actually, you seem to have the opposite effect on me. Now that you've
> returned, I seem to have a desperate need for a stiff drink.

The truth can indeed be unsettling, Dave.

Howard Ferstler