A statistic "à la ScottW", "à la Sackman", "à la McKelvy"

[Lionel]

Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :

Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008
(including domestic wars).
Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
Chemin des dames.

1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
casualties ?

2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>
> Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
> domestic wars).
> Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
> Chemin des dames.
>

Verdun, three yards and a pile of dust.
You'rr not very effective, are you.

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>
>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>>domestic wars).
>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>Chemin des dames.
>>
>
>
> Verdun, three yards and a pile of dust.
> You'rr not very effective, are you.

Wrong check your history book one more time.

>
>

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick wrote:
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>
>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>>domestic wars).
>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>Chemin des dames.
>>
>
>
> Verdun, three yards and a pile of dust.
> You'rr not very effective, are you.

Nobody has been effective in this mortal trap.
99% of the guys who came back from hell (German or French) were saying
:"I have been very lucky, the heros are dead".

[ScottW]

Lionel > wrote in message >...
> Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>
> Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008
> (including domestic wars).
> Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
> Chemin des dames.
>
> 1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
> casualties ?

The idea is for our military to protect our people from our enemies.
Obviously they do a pretty good job. I can see why you may be
confused.... the French military has never protected the French
people. I suspect the idea of human shields has French origins.

ScottW

[Lionel]

ScottW wrote:
> Lionel > wrote in message >...
>
>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>
>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008
>>(including domestic wars).
>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>Chemin des dames.
>>
>>1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
>>casualties ?
>
>
> The idea is for our military to protect our people from our enemies.
> Obviously they do a pretty good job.

Since US have always brought war far from home you just don't know.

Oh ****, I forgot those 3,000 poor people of the WTC. Their *sacrifice*
has provided a famous pretext to Bush & Co to find new oil sources.

> I can see why you may be
> confused.... the French military has never protected the French
> people. I suspect the idea of human shields has French origins.


You suspect only ? For my part I am sure that burning women, children
with phosphor, nuke and napalm is a US speciality. Before US only the
Nazis have been more performant.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>
> Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
> domestic wars).
> Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,

The History Place - Statistics of World War II
Statistics of World War II
Including the European and Pacific Theaters

CountriesTotal Deaths% of Prewar PopulationMilitary Deaths Civilian
Deaths
USSR20,600,00010.4%13,600,0007,000,000
CHINA10,000,0002.0%
GERMANY6,850,0009.5%3,250,0003,600,000
POLAND6,123,00017.2%123,0006,000,000
JAPAN2,000,0002.7%
YUGOSLAVIA1,706,00010.9%
FRANCE810,0001.9%340,000470,000
GREECE520,0007.2%
UNITED STATES500,0000.4%500,000
AUSTRIA480,0007.2%
ROMANIA460,0003.4%
HUNGARY420,0003.0%
ITALY410,0000.9%330,00080,000
CZECHOSLOVAKIA400,0002.7%
GREAT BRITAIN388,0000.8%326,00062,000
NETHERLANDS210,0002.4%198,00012,000
BELGIUM88,0001.1%76,00012,000
FINLAND84,0002.2%
AUSTRALIA39,0000.3%
CANADA34,0000.3%
ALBANIA28,0002.5%
INDIA24,0000.01%
NORWAY10,2620.3%
NEW ZEALAND10,0000.6%
LUXEMBOURG5,0001.7%
TOTAL52,199,262



So once again the facts are at odds with your bull****.

> 1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
> casualties ?
>
> 2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
> than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>
> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html

[Lionel]

Michael McKelvy wrote:

>
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>
>> Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>> domestic wars).
>> Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>
> The History Place - Statistics of World War II
> Statistics of World War II
> Including the European and Pacific Theaters
>
> CountriesTotal Deaths% of Prewar PopulationMilitary Deaths Civilian
> Deaths
> USSR20,600,00010.4%13,600,0007,000,000
> CHINA10,000,0002.0%
> GERMANY6,850,0009.5%3,250,0003,600,000
> POLAND6,123,00017.2%123,0006,000,000
> JAPAN2,000,0002.7%
> YUGOSLAVIA1,706,00010.9%
> FRANCE810,0001.9%340,000470,000
> GREECE520,0007.2%
> UNITED STATES500,0000.4%500,000
> AUSTRIA480,0007.2%
> ROMANIA460,0003.4%
> HUNGARY420,0003.0%
> ITALY410,0000.9%330,00080,000
> CZECHOSLOVAKIA400,0002.7%
> GREAT BRITAIN388,0000.8%326,00062,000
> NETHERLANDS210,0002.4%198,00012,000
> BELGIUM88,0001.1%76,00012,000
> FINLAND84,0002.2%
> AUSTRALIA39,0000.3%
> CANADA34,0000.3%
> ALBANIA28,0002.5%
> INDIA24,0000.01%
> NORWAY10,2620.3%
> NEW ZEALAND10,0000.6%
> LUXEMBOURG5,0001.7%
> TOTAL52,199,262
>
>
>
> So once again the facts are at odds with your bull****


No McKelvy it wasn't bull****, statisitcs only. Bull**** is *your* fact not
mine.



>> 1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
>> casualties ?
>>
>> 2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
>> than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>>
>> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html

[ScottW]

Lionel > wrote in message >...
> Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>

The perfect definition of France:

"Bernard Kouchner, a physician and former Socialist cabinet minister,
whose individuality has never been stifled by party doctrine, sees a
"French syndrome" behind all this.
..
His definition of the abnormality: "Talking louder than everybody
else, making a little bit more noise, and thinking that by yourself
you constitute a majority."

http://www.iht.com/articles/543001.html

ScottW

[Lionel]

ScottW wrote:

> Lionel > wrote in message
> >...
>> Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>
>
> The perfect definition of France:
>
> "Bernard Kouchner, a physician and former Socialist cabinet minister,
> whose individuality has never been stifled by party doctrine, sees a
> "French syndrome" behind all this.
> .
> His definition of the abnormality: "Talking louder than everybody
> else, making a little bit more noise, and thinking that by yourself
> you constitute a majority."
>
> http://www.iht.com/articles/543001.html

Does this means that G.W. Bush is French ?

[Lionel]

ScottW wrote:

A tip to ScottW "The Môron".
If you want to learn a lot of nasty jokes on the Frenchs just ask to our
cousins from Québec.
Vive le Québec libre !

[Michael McKelvy]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>
> Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
> domestic wars).
> Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
> Chemin des dames.
>
> 1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
> casualties ?
>
> 2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
> than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>
> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html

Leave it to Lionel to find the least reliable source of information.

The statistics I gave you from the History Place are real, the crap on
infoplease isn't.

[Clyde Slick]

"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
k.net...


>
> The History Place - Statistics of World War II
> Statistics of World War II
> Including the European and Pacific Theaters
>
> CountriesTotal Deaths% of Prewar PopulationMilitary Deaths Civilian
> Deaths
> USSR20,600,00010.4%13,600,0007,000,000
> CHINA10,000,0002.0%
> GERMANY6,850,0009.5%3,250,0003,600,000
> POLAND6,123,00017.2%123,0006,000,000
> JAPAN2,000,0002.7%
> YUGOSLAVIA1,706,00010.9%
> FRANCE810,0001.9%340,000470,000
> GREECE520,0007.2%
> UNITED STATES500,0000.4%500,000
> AUSTRIA480,0007.2%
> ROMANIA460,0003.4%
> HUNGARY420,0003.0%
> ITALY410,0000.9%330,00080,000
> CZECHOSLOVAKIA400,0002.7%
> GREAT BRITAIN388,0000.8%326,00062,000
> NETHERLANDS210,0002.4%198,00012,000
> BELGIUM88,0001.1%76,00012,000
> FINLAND84,0002.2%
> AUSTRALIA39,0000.3%
> CANADA34,0000.3%
> ALBANIA28,0002.5%
> INDIA24,0000.01%
> NORWAY10,2620.3%
> NEW ZEALAND10,0000.6%
> LUXEMBOURG5,0001.7%
> TOTAL52,199,262


Duh-Mikey,
sorry for the gratuitous insult, but could
you unKroogle your statistics for us?

[Michael McKelvy]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
> k.net...
>
>
>>
>> The History Place - Statistics of World War II
>> Statistics of World War II
>> Including the European and Pacific Theaters
>>
>> CountriesTotal Deaths% of Prewar PopulationMilitary Deaths Civilian
>> Deaths
>> USSR20,600,00010.4%13,600,0007,000,000
>> CHINA10,000,0002.0%
>> GERMANY6,850,0009.5%3,250,0003,600,000
>> POLAND6,123,00017.2%123,0006,000,000
>> JAPAN2,000,0002.7%
>> YUGOSLAVIA1,706,00010.9%
>> FRANCE810,0001.9%340,000470,000
>> GREECE520,0007.2%
>> UNITED STATES500,0000.4%500,000
>> AUSTRIA480,0007.2%
>> ROMANIA460,0003.4%
>> HUNGARY420,0003.0%
>> ITALY410,0000.9%330,00080,000
>> CZECHOSLOVAKIA400,0002.7%
>> GREAT BRITAIN388,0000.8%326,00062,000
>> NETHERLANDS210,0002.4%198,00012,000
>> BELGIUM88,0001.1%76,00012,000
>> FINLAND84,0002.2%
>> AUSTRALIA39,0000.3%
>> CANADA34,0000.3%
>> ALBANIA28,0002.5%
>> INDIA24,0000.01%
>> NORWAY10,2620.3%
>> NEW ZEALAND10,0000.6%
>> LUXEMBOURG5,0001.7%
>> TOTAL52,199,262
>
>
> Duh-Mikey,
> sorry for the gratuitous insult, but could
> you unKroogle your statistics for us?
>

Go The History Place

[Lionel]

Michael McKelvy wrote:
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>
>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>>domestic wars).
>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>Chemin des dames.
>>
>>1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
>>casualties ?
>>
>>2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
>>than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>>
>>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html
>
>
> Leave it to Lionel to find the least reliable source of information.
>
> The statistics I gave you from the History Place are real, the crap on
> infoplease isn't.

Crap ?????

LOL, the source of the statistic I supplied is :

*Department of Defense and Veterans Administration*.

An American respectable administration. Just watch it is written down to
the chart.
Thank you for proving us one more time that you are an idiot, Duh-Mikey. :-)

[Michael McKelvy]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Michael McKelvy wrote:
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>>
>>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>>>domestic wars).
>>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>>Chemin des dames.
>>>
>>>1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
>>>casualties ?
>>>
>>>2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
>>>than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>>>
>>>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html
>>
>>
>> Leave it to Lionel to find the least reliable source of information.
>>
>> The statistics I gave you from the History Place are real, the crap on
>> infoplease isn't.
>
> Crap ?????
>
> LOL, the source of the statistic I supplied is :
>
> *Department of Defense and Veterans Administration*.
>
The figure listed for WWII deaths is noted as Veterans Administration
estimate.

The figures I posted can be better understood by going here:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/statistics.htm

The 500,000 figure is for military deaths.

I've looked in other places and nowhere do I find numbers as low as the ones
you posted.

When I find an explanation for the difference in the numbers I will post it.

[Michael McKelvy]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Michael McKelvy wrote:
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>>
>>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>>>domestic wars).
>>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>>Chemin des dames.
>>>
>>>1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
>>>casualties ?
>>>
>>>2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
>>>than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>>>
>>>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html
>>
>>
>> Leave it to Lionel to find the least reliable source of information.
>>
>> The statistics I gave you from the History Place are real, the crap on
>> infoplease isn't.
>
> Crap ?????
>
> LOL, the source of the statistic I supplied is :
>
> *Department of Defense and Veterans Administration*.
>
> An American respectable administration.

That would depend on who you ask.

Just watch it is written down to
> the chart.
> Thank you for proving us one more time that you are an idiot, Duh-Mikey.
> :-)

Thank you for once again proving that you live in the past and don't care
about truth.

[Lionel]

Michael McKelvy wrote:
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Michael McKelvy wrote:
>>
>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>>>
>>>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>>>>domestic wars).
>>>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>>>Chemin des dames.
>>>>
>>>>1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
>>>>casualties ?
>>>>
>>>>2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
>>>>than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Leave it to Lionel to find the least reliable source of information.
>>>
>>>The statistics I gave you from the History Place are real, the crap on
>>>infoplease isn't.
>>
>>Crap ?????
>>
>>LOL, the source of the statistic I supplied is :
>>
>>*Department of Defense and Veterans Administration*.
>>
>
> The figure listed for WWII deaths is noted as Veterans Administration
> estimate.
>
> The figures I posted can be better understood by going here:
> http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/statistics.htm
>
> The 500,000 figure is for military deaths.
>
> I've looked in other places and nowhere do I find numbers as low as the ones
> you posted.
>
> When I find an explanation for the difference in the numbers I will post it.

No need to make so difficult searchs McKelvy, just learn to read and/or
to understand.

[Lionel]

Michael McKelvy wrote:
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Michael McKelvy wrote:
>>
>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why you Americans republican hatemongers are such liars :
>>>>
>>>>Total US battle deaths in more than 2 centuries of war 651,008 (including
>>>>domestic wars).
>>>>Less than French deaths in 2 years of battles in Verdun and La Somme,
>>>>Chemin des dames.
>>>>
>>>>1. Where are you hiding your "courageous" US soldiers in order to avoid
>>>>casualties ?
>>>>
>>>>2. During the WWII US army has nearly killed more civilians in bombing
>>>>than its total battle deaths in 2 centuries of war.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Leave it to Lionel to find the least reliable source of information.
>>>
>>>The statistics I gave you from the History Place are real, the crap on
>>>infoplease isn't.
>>
>>Crap ?????
>>
>>LOL, the source of the statistic I supplied is :
>>
>>*Department of Defense and Veterans Administration*.
>>
>>An American respectable administration.
>
>
> That would depend on who you ask.
>
> Just watch it is written down to
>
>>the chart.
>>Thank you for proving us one more time that you are an idiot, Duh-Mikey.
>>:-)
>
>
> Thank you for once again proving that you live in the past and don't care
> about truth.

Blah, Blah, Blah...
I have a governmental source, you haven't.
Are you insinuating that your government is lying ? ;-)