Car Audio in '72 Bug

[Damjan Mozetiè]

Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo system in
my '72 bug.

I currently have:
- a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
- infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
- an Alpine MRV-T320 amp

What I already did:
- put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I made a
custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4 long
screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the screws with
chromed pipes to look nicely).
- wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the ACC+
directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already running
:)

For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for the sub
behind the back seat.

Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the best
way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt between the
front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery), the
speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I don't
intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
condition).

I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...? Thanks!

[Daniel Snooks]

Damjan Mozetiè wrote
> Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo system
in
> my '72 bug.
>
> I currently have:
> - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
>
> What I already did:
> - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I made a
> custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4
long
> screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the screws
with
> chromed pipes to look nicely).
> - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the ACC+
> directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
> switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
running
> :)
>
> For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for the
sub
> behind the back seat.
>
> Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the best
> way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt between
the
> front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery), the
> speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I don't
> intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> condition).

My brother-in-law has just finished restoring his bug (I believe it is also
a '72). I am hounding him to let me put a system in it. My current plan
(just off the top of my head) is as follows :

1) mount head unit in glove box (he wants stealth, and to leave the original
radio in the dash)
2) fiberglass kickpanels for 5 1/4" coax (he is trying to spend as little as
possible)
3) fiberglass enclosure for 8" (possibly 10") sub under drivers side rear
seat. Most likely this will be a sealed design
4) 4 channel amp in trunk (not sure where, that will depend on the physical
characteristics of the amp he gets)

If he decides that he wants rear fill, I will probably put 5 1/4" coax in
the rear (fiberglass and carpet to hide them) and run them off the deck. I
don't think he will need it, but rear fill is a personal preference.

--
Regards,
Dan Snooks

[asdg]

I'd suggest running the ACC+ through the ignition leave the switch if you'd
like, but you'll be glad you ran it through the ignition the first time that
you forget to flip the switch and where your battery would have been dead
you can start it up. As far as wiring and everything goes are you just
going for functionality or do you want it to be somewhat showy? Also is
this bug the 6v or 12v setup? Not to familiar with the older VW setups as
far as when they switched over to 12v setup. Let us know this and it should
help quite a bit as far as helping you ought.

"Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo system
in
> my '72 bug.
>
> I currently have:
> - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
>
> What I already did:
> - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I made a
> custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4
long
> screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the screws
with
> chromed pipes to look nicely).
> - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the ACC+
> directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
> switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
running
> :)
>
> For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for the
sub
> behind the back seat.
>
> Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the best
> way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt between
the
> front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery), the
> speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I don't
> intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> condition).
>
> I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...?
Thanks!
>
>

[Damjan Mozetiè]

I am running the ACC+ through the ignition key, and I have a switch in the
middle. Despite the classic car look I might want to make the thingie a
little showie anyway... I like the idea, old meets new. Like I said the
stereo holder is made in a showy way, though it still preserves the classic
look (colour of the car + chrome). I must emphasize that I don't want to cut
anything off from the original car, at max. I want to drill some necessary
holes.
And being a '72, the car has a 12V setup.

Thanks a lot!

"asdg" > wrote in message
...
> I'd suggest running the ACC+ through the ignition leave the switch if
you'd
> like, but you'll be glad you ran it through the ignition the first time
that
> you forget to flip the switch and where your battery would have been dead
> you can start it up. As far as wiring and everything goes are you just
> going for functionality or do you want it to be somewhat showy? Also is
> this bug the 6v or 12v setup? Not to familiar with the older VW setups as
> far as when they switched over to 12v setup. Let us know this and it
should
> help quite a bit as far as helping you ought.
>
> "Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo
system
> in
> > my '72 bug.
> >
> > I currently have:
> > - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> > - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> > - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
> >
> > What I already did:
> > - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I made
a
> > custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4
> long
> > screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the screws
> with
> > chromed pipes to look nicely).
> > - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the
ACC+
> > directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
> > switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
> running
> > :)
> >
> > For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for the
> sub
> > behind the back seat.
> >
> > Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the
best
> > way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt between
> the
> > front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery), the
> > speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I don't
> > intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> > condition).
> >
> > I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...?
> Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

[Gravity]

Around here we have a classic bug (not sure the year) with a Chevy 454 in
it. I don't need to tell you how fast that thing is lol.

--
---------------------------------------------
:-D I just cut the cheese!
"Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo system
in
> my '72 bug.
>
> I currently have:
> - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
>
> What I already did:
> - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I made a
> custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4
long
> screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the screws
with
> chromed pipes to look nicely).
> - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the ACC+
> directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
> switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
running
> :)
>
> For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for the
sub
> behind the back seat.
>
> Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the best
> way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt between
the
> front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery), the
> speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I don't
> intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> condition).
>
> I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...?
Thanks!
>
>

[Damjan Mozetiè]

To tell you the truth, I am amazed at how reliable the slow, noisy and old
stock engine runs ;)

"Gravity" > wrote in message
...
> Around here we have a classic bug (not sure the year) with a Chevy 454 in
> it. I don't need to tell you how fast that thing is lol.
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------
> :-D I just cut the cheese!
> "Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo
system
> in
> > my '72 bug.
> >
> > I currently have:
> > - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> > - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> > - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
> >
> > What I already did:
> > - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I made
a
> > custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4
> long
> > screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the screws
> with
> > chromed pipes to look nicely).
> > - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the
ACC+
> > directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
> > switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
> running
> > :)
> >
> > For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for the
> sub
> > behind the back seat.
> >
> > Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the
best
> > way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt between
> the
> > front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery), the
> > speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I don't
> > intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> > condition).
> >
> > I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...?
> Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

[Damjan Mozetiè]

Please, can anybody help?

"Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
...
> I am running the ACC+ through the ignition key, and I have a switch in the
> middle. Despite the classic car look I might want to make the thingie a
> little showie anyway... I like the idea, old meets new. Like I said the
> stereo holder is made in a showy way, though it still preserves the
classic
> look (colour of the car + chrome). I must emphasize that I don't want to
cut
> anything off from the original car, at max. I want to drill some necessary
> holes.
> And being a '72, the car has a 12V setup.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> "asdg" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'd suggest running the ACC+ through the ignition leave the switch if
> you'd
> > like, but you'll be glad you ran it through the ignition the first time
> that
> > you forget to flip the switch and where your battery would have been
dead
> > you can start it up. As far as wiring and everything goes are you just
> > going for functionality or do you want it to be somewhat showy? Also is
> > this bug the 6v or 12v setup? Not to familiar with the older VW setups
as
> > far as when they switched over to 12v setup. Let us know this and it
> should
> > help quite a bit as far as helping you ought.
> >
> > "Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo
> system
> > in
> > > my '72 bug.
> > >
> > > I currently have:
> > > - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> > > - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> > > - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
> > >
> > > What I already did:
> > > - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I
made
> a
> > > custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4
> > long
> > > screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the
screws
> > with
> > > chromed pipes to look nicely).
> > > - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the
> ACC+
> > > directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
> > > switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
> > running
> > > :)
> > >
> > > For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for
the
> > sub
> > > behind the back seat.
> > >
> > > Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the
> best
> > > way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt
between
> > the
> > > front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery),
the
> > > speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I
don't
> > > intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> > > condition).
> > >
> > > I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...?
> > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[74DartSport]

Ok, remember that everything needs power (must be reliable) so the larger
guage you can get the better. This goes for the amp and the sterio, but
mainly the amps. Also grounding to any metal that is attached to the frame
should be fine but if you have a bolt that goes directly to the frame it
would provide a better ground. Also heat is very bad so try and get them
someplace as away from heat as you can, if you are good enough with a dremel
and mechanically inclined enough you can make a "case" for the amp out of
plexi and put a fan at one end (simple 80mm computer fan works good and you
can run it off of the ACC from the sterio so it doesn't run except when the
sterio is on) and and exhaust port at another to keep moving air over it.
You can mount this on what would be the firewall on a front engine car this
would allow you to have the shortest wires possible. Also with the plexi I
don't know if you're going to be doing any lighting but putting some leds or
something to match the car looks pretty neat inside plexi housing the plexi
would also protect the wiring since this will be the trunk area as well.
Just remember that wiring is what runs everything and the bigger the better.
DON'T SKIMP on the wire size. Get the largest diameter wire you can get for
the amp. It'll provide much better power to the amp. Anything else your
wondering about?
Jared
"Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
...
> I am running the ACC+ through the ignition key, and I have a switch in the
> middle. Despite the classic car look I might want to make the thingie a
> little showie anyway... I like the idea, old meets new. Like I said the
> stereo holder is made in a showy way, though it still preserves the
classic
> look (colour of the car + chrome). I must emphasize that I don't want to
cut
> anything off from the original car, at max. I want to drill some necessary
> holes.
> And being a '72, the car has a 12V setup.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> "asdg" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'd suggest running the ACC+ through the ignition leave the switch if
> you'd
> > like, but you'll be glad you ran it through the ignition the first time
> that
> > you forget to flip the switch and where your battery would have been
dead
> > you can start it up. As far as wiring and everything goes are you just
> > going for functionality or do you want it to be somewhat showy? Also is
> > this bug the 6v or 12v setup? Not to familiar with the older VW setups
as
> > far as when they switched over to 12v setup. Let us know this and it
> should
> > help quite a bit as far as helping you ought.
> >
> > "Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo
> system
> > in
> > > my '72 bug.
> > >
> > > I currently have:
> > > - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> > > - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> > > - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
> > >
> > > What I already did:
> > > - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I
made
> a
> > > custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on 4
> > long
> > > screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the
screws
> > with
> > > chromed pipes to look nicely).
> > > - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put the
> ACC+
> > > directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through a
> > > switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
> > running
> > > :)
> > >
> > > For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for
the
> > sub
> > > behind the back seat.
> > >
> > > Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be the
> best
> > > way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt
between
> > the
> > > front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery),
the
> > > speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I
don't
> > > intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> > > condition).
> > >
> > > I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...?
> > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Damjan Mozetiè]

Thanks, that's all I wanted to know! I'll post some pics when the work is
done!

"74DartSport" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, remember that everything needs power (must be reliable) so the larger
> guage you can get the better. This goes for the amp and the sterio, but
> mainly the amps. Also grounding to any metal that is attached to the
frame
> should be fine but if you have a bolt that goes directly to the frame it
> would provide a better ground. Also heat is very bad so try and get them
> someplace as away from heat as you can, if you are good enough with a
dremel
> and mechanically inclined enough you can make a "case" for the amp out of
> plexi and put a fan at one end (simple 80mm computer fan works good and
you
> can run it off of the ACC from the sterio so it doesn't run except when
the
> sterio is on) and and exhaust port at another to keep moving air over it.
> You can mount this on what would be the firewall on a front engine car
this
> would allow you to have the shortest wires possible. Also with the plexi
I
> don't know if you're going to be doing any lighting but putting some leds
or
> something to match the car looks pretty neat inside plexi housing the
plexi
> would also protect the wiring since this will be the trunk area as well.
> Just remember that wiring is what runs everything and the bigger the
better.
> DON'T SKIMP on the wire size. Get the largest diameter wire you can get
for
> the amp. It'll provide much better power to the amp. Anything else your
> wondering about?
> Jared
> "Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am running the ACC+ through the ignition key, and I have a switch in
the
> > middle. Despite the classic car look I might want to make the thingie a
> > little showie anyway... I like the idea, old meets new. Like I said the
> > stereo holder is made in a showy way, though it still preserves the
> classic
> > look (colour of the car + chrome). I must emphasize that I don't want to
> cut
> > anything off from the original car, at max. I want to drill some
necessary
> > holes.
> > And being a '72, the car has a 12V setup.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > "asdg" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'd suggest running the ACC+ through the ignition leave the switch if
> > you'd
> > > like, but you'll be glad you ran it through the ignition the first
time
> > that
> > > you forget to flip the switch and where your battery would have been
> dead
> > > you can start it up. As far as wiring and everything goes are you
just
> > > going for functionality or do you want it to be somewhat showy? Also
is
> > > this bug the 6v or 12v setup? Not to familiar with the older VW
setups
> as
> > > far as when they switched over to 12v setup. Let us know this and it
> > should
> > > help quite a bit as far as helping you ought.
> > >
> > > "Damjan Mozetiè" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Ok, I am an newbie in car audio stuff and I'd like to put a stereo
> > system
> > > in
> > > > my '72 bug.
> > > >
> > > > I currently have:
> > > > - a nakamichi 6 disc MusicBank cd changer
> > > > - infinity 60.3cs speaker set (6-1/2'' 2-way component system)
> > > > - an Alpine MRV-T320 amp
> > > >
> > > > What I already did:
> > > > - put the radio under the dash. I didn't want to cut the dash, so I
> made
> > a
> > > > custom support for the radio, basically a wooden box, which rests on
4
> > > long
> > > > screws coming in from inside the front trunk (I have dressed the
> screws
> > > with
> > > > chromed pipes to look nicely).
> > > > - wired the radio, which seems to work fine. I didn't want to put
the
> > ACC+
> > > > directly to th eignition switch, so I made the current to go through
a
> > > > switch on the dash, so I can turn it on only when the car is already
> > > running
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > For the future I plan to put a second amp and make a custom box for
> the
> > > sub
> > > > behind the back seat.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I would be glad if someone could explain to me what would be
the
> > best
> > > > way to wire everything up, where to place the amp (I am in doubt
> between
> > > the
> > > > front trunk and the hole under the back seat, next to the battery),
> the
> > > > speakers... all without cutting too much into the car (actually I
> don't
> > > > intend to cut anything at all, as the car is in beautiful classic
> > > > condition).
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to keep this post going, so please if anybody can help...?
> > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>