Re: Question for Sander

[Sander deWaal]

The Devil > said:

>Have you ever used an 83 rectifier valve for a power- or pre-amp? Know
>what the voltage drop is? Any good? I find myself rather drawn to the
>danger of glowing hot mercury vapour. :-)

Don't.
For starters, a mercury vapour rectifier has to warm up its filament
well before switching on the HV, or it'll blow.
When cold, the liquid mercury acts as a short circuit.

Second, they're noisy as hell.

Voltage drop is low, about 10...15 Volts.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

[Arny Krueger]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:3mflk0ta42uhjpoh14tupuegh60p3r1mct@rdmzrnewst xt.nz

> Have you ever used an 83 rectifier valve for a power- or pre-amp? Know
> what the voltage drop is? Any good? I find myself rather drawn to the
> danger of glowing hot mercury vapour. :-)

The 83 is for wimps. When I was in my vacuum tube phase, I used a pair of
866's. My favorite lrge output tubes were 211s and 304TLs.

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:37:26 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"The Devil" > wrote in message
>news:3mflk0ta42uhjpoh14tupuegh60p3r1mct@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
>
>> Have you ever used an 83 rectifier valve for a power- or pre-amp? Know
>> what the voltage drop is? Any good? I find myself rather drawn to the
>> danger of glowing hot mercury vapour. :-)
>
>The 83 is for wimps. When I was in my vacuum tube phase, I used a pair of
>866's. My favorite lrge output tubes were 211s and 304TLs.

Is your name Sander? I didn't think so.

BTW, Freud would have a field day with your paragraph.

[Arny Krueger]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:8aqlk015br4kf36bnp1ar85mc03eliff8f@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:37:26 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> The 83 is for wimps. When I was in my vacuum tube phase, I used a
>> pair of 866's.
>
> 866's what? Shipment boxes?
>
>> My favorite lrge output tubes were 211s and 304TLs.
>
> Do I really give a **** what you like or don't like?

Given how **cked in the head you are Devil, I would sincerely hope that you
cared little for what I wrote.

Delusional belief that you are the only person in the universe who matters,
noted.

>I hope you need
> no more than 1/100 of a second to answer that question. The only thing
> I find worthy of comment regarding your 'tube phase' is my
> disappointment that you didn't grab hold of an 11KV phase until you
> were nothing more than a ****-smelling pile of ashes, smoking away in
> the snow with all the radars you incompetently wrecked.

Delusional belief that an 83 or 866 was capable of 11 KV operation noted.

The maximum PIV for the 866 was only about 10 KV, so operation with more
than a few KV AC applied would be inadvisable.

[audiophool]

"The Devil" > wrote

> Jesus friggin Christ. Will someone shoot this pathetic thing in the
> head, pleaaaaase.

Tsk.Tsk.

Tell me Fred, would Judy approve of this behaviour?

Just wondering ;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:mf1mk0pc9rdbrcpuq8sje03bhcohsmi1pq@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:28:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> Given how **cked in the head you are Devil,
>
> Don't go all coy over a swear-word, Arnii. Everyone knows you're quite
> comfortable cursing out a blue streak ...

That's special for you, Devil. I have *special* treatment for people like
and Middius who brag in public about their pedophile fantasies related to my
late son.

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:07:00 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"The Devil" > wrote in message
>news:mf1mk0pc9rdbrcpuq8sje03bhcohsmi1pq@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:28:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Given how **cked in the head you are Devil,
>>
>> Don't go all coy over a swear-word, Arnii. Everyone knows you're quite
>> comfortable cursing out a blue streak ...
>
>That's special for you, Devil. I have *special* treatment for people like
>and Middius who brag in public about their pedophile fantasies related to my
>late son.
>
Once again showing that you have no shame in using your personal
tragedy to score points. Sad.

[Arny Krueger]

"dave weil" > wrote in message

> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:07:00 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> "The Devil" > wrote in message
>> news:mf1mk0pc9rdbrcpuq8sje03bhcohsmi1pq@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:28:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Given how **cked in the head you are Devil,
>>>
>>> Don't go all coy over a swear-word, Arnii. Everyone knows you're
>>> quite comfortable cursing out a blue streak ...
>>
>> That's special for you, Devil. I have *special* treatment for people
>> like and Middius who brag in public about their pedophile fantasies
>> related to my late son.
>>
> Once again showing that you have no shame in using your personal
> tragedy to score points. Sad.

Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have tried to
score so many points with the likes of you using my personal tragedy.

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"dave weil" > wrote in message

>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:07:00 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "The Devil" > wrote in message
>>> news:mf1mk0pc9rdbrcpuq8sje03bhcohsmi1pq@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:28:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Given how **cked in the head you are Devil,
>>>>
>>>> Don't go all coy over a swear-word, Arnii. Everyone knows you're
>>>> quite comfortable cursing out a blue streak ...
>>>
>>> That's special for you, Devil. I have *special* treatment for people
>>> like and Middius who brag in public about their pedophile fantasies
>>> related to my late son.
>>>
>> Once again showing that you have no shame in using your personal
>> tragedy to score points. Sad.
>
>Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have tried to
>score so many points with the likes of you using my personal tragedy.

No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.

And that's the really sad thing.

[Arny Krueger]

"dave weil" > wrote in message

> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have
>> tried to score so many points with the likes of you using my
>> personal tragedy.

> No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.

Not at all. If it wasn't for Devil's big mouth there would be no issue.

> And that's the really sad thing.

Yes Weil, its really sad that you fault me for taking exception to Devil's
many attempts to use my personal tragedy against me.

[Arny Krueger]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:dfemk0db3nlbrt2qc3nv1eii3ubam9vo3j@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:17:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have
>>>> tried to score so many points with the likes of you using my
>>>> personal tragedy.
>>
>>> No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.
>>
>> Not at all. If it wasn't for Devil's big mouth there would be no
>> issue.
>>
>>> And that's the really sad thing.
>>
>> Yes Weil, its really sad that you fault me for taking exception to
>> Devil's many attempts to use my personal tragedy against me.
>>
>
> Doctor!

So, now you're hoping that a doctor can fix what's wrong with you, Devil?

I'm praying for you that it's true!

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:17:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"dave weil" > wrote in message

>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>> Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have
>>> tried to score so many points with the likes of you using my
>>> personal tragedy.
>
>> No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.
>
>Not at all. If it wasn't for Devil's big mouth there would be no issue.

Actually, if it hadn't been for *your* big mouth, there would have
never been an issue, now would there? Nobody would have known about
the tragedy in the first place. There - Arnold logic comes around to
bite you once again.

>> And that's the really sad thing.
>
>Yes Weil, its really sad that you fault me for taking exception to Devil's
>many attempts to use my personal tragedy against me.

How? By bringing up the tragedy out of the blue again for your own
"point-scoring" purposes? Shame on you.

I hope that you're feeling good about yourself today. Frankly, I think
it's tragic to use your son's death in such a manner, but that's just
me, I suppose.

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:32:09 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"The Devil" > wrote in message
>news:dfemk0db3nlbrt2qc3nv1eii3ubam9vo3j@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:17:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have
>>>>> tried to score so many points with the likes of you using my
>>>>> personal tragedy.
>>>
>>>> No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.
>>>
>>> Not at all. If it wasn't for Devil's big mouth there would be no
>>> issue.
>>>
>>>> And that's the really sad thing.
>>>
>>> Yes Weil, its really sad that you fault me for taking exception to
>>> Devil's many attempts to use my personal tragedy against me.
>>>
>>
>> Doctor!
>
>So, now you're hoping that a doctor can fix what's wrong with you, Devil?
>
>I'm praying for you that it's true!

If I were you, I'd scrub that pentagram off the floor before the wife
gets home.

Oh yeah, the goat's head should go in the trash.

[Arny Krueger]

"dave weil" > wrote in message

> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:17:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have
>>>> tried to score so many points with the likes of you using my
>>>> personal tragedy.
>>
>>> No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.
>>
>> Not at all. If it wasn't for Devil's big mouth there would be no
>> issue.
>
> Actually, if it hadn't been for *your* big mouth, there would have
> never been an issue, now would there?

Not necessarily. RAO trolls have a track record for finding out about deaths
related to regular posters, by searching searching online newspaper
listeings. My son's death could be found in at least three such online
listings maintained by local newspapers. Then, some of his classmates put up
a web site dedicated to his memory. All 3 mentioned his parents by name.
There may be others.

> Nobody would have known about the tragedy in the first place.

Not necessarily true. Remember the *death* of Doug Haugen?

[Bruce J. Richman]

Lucifer wrote:


>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:17:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>wrote:
>
>>"dave weil" > wrote in message

>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have
>>>> tried to score so many points with the likes of you using my
>>>> personal tragedy.
>>
>>> No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.
>>
>>Not at all. If it wasn't for Devil's big mouth there would be no issue.
>>
>>> And that's the really sad thing.
>>
>>Yes Weil, its really sad that you fault me for taking exception to Devil's
>>many attempts to use my personal tragedy against me.
>>
>
>Doctor!
>
>--
>td
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yes, can I help you? :0)



Bruce J. Richman

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:27:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"dave weil" > wrote in message

>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:17:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:50:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> Yes Weil, it's all my fault that you Middius and the Devil have
>>>>> tried to score so many points with the likes of you using my
>>>>> personal tragedy.
>>>
>>>> No, it's your fault that you are using it yourself.
>>>
>>> Not at all. If it wasn't for Devil's big mouth there would be no
>>> issue.
>>
>> Actually, if it hadn't been for *your* big mouth, there would have
>> never been an issue, now would there?
>
>Not necessarily. RAO trolls have a track record for finding out about deaths
>related to regular posters, by searching searching online newspaper
>listeings. My son's death could be found in at least three such online
>listings maintained by local newspapers. Then, some of his classmates put up
>a web site dedicated to his memory. All 3 mentioned his parents by name.
>There may be others.
>
>> Nobody would have known about the tragedy in the first place.
>
>Not necessarily true. Remember the *death* of Doug Haugen?

Are you claiming some sort of similarity?

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> >
> > Actually, if it hadn't been for *your* big mouth, there would have
> > never been an issue, now would there?
>
> Not necessarily. RAO trolls have a track record for finding out about
deaths
> related to regular posters, by searching searching online newspaper
> listeings. My son's death could be found in at least three such online
> listings maintained by local newspapers. Then, some of his classmates put
up
> a web site dedicated to his memory. All 3 mentioned his parents by name.
> There may be others.
>

That's right. Atkinson's RAO cabal searches the internet obituaries each
morning looking for Susan's death notice. I've got Tuesday and
Thursday morning duty.

[Arny Krueger]

"Bruce J. Richman" > wrote in message


> Yes, can I help you? :0)

Doctor, cure thyself, first.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>Not necessarily. RAO trolls have a track record for finding out about deaths
>related to regular posters, by searching searching online newspaper
>listeings. My son's death could be found in at least three such online
>listings maintained by local newspapers. Then, some of his classmates put up
>a web site dedicated to his memory. All 3 mentioned his parents by name.
>There may be others.

Color me naive, but do you really think "RAO trolls" are scanning
online death listings every day to haunt other people with it in
newsgroups?

I wasn't reading RAO at the time it happened, but I've seen it
mentioned that you posted the decease of your son here yourself.
That in itself shouldn't be a reason for others to make use of it
though.

But in this thread, no other poster but yourself brought up the
subject of your son.

If people in RAO did to me what they did to you regarding a deceased
family member, I'd be disgusted and leave the place forever.
There must be better and stronger words than disgusted, but I can't
think of any at the moment.

I mentioned the chronical illness of my wife several times in this
newsgroup.
I've not seen any bad jokes about that.
If she would die, I'd probably not mention this on RAO though, knowing
what happened to you.
OTOH, that would have such impact on me that I probably couldn't keep
my mouth shut about it.

I may disagree with you, I may not like your online personae, I may
poke fun at you and mock you, but never on the subject of your late
son.
I have no kids, so I can't imagine what it must be like to lose
someone you raised and love so much.
I can only imagine (and even that isn't really true since it hasn't
happened yet) what it would be like to lose my wife though.

No one deserves what happened to you.
This is an example of where my borders of decency are crossed like I
mentioned before.

I hereby ask all RAO posters to stop bringing up the subject of your
late son again.
Please show at least respect for Nate and let him rest in peace.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:21:29 +0200, Sander deWaal
> wrote:

>I hereby ask all RAO posters to stop bringing up the subject of your
>late son again.
>Please show at least respect for Nate and let him rest in peace.

Including Mr. Krueger, I trust.

[Arny Krueger]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:sklmk0lgit9rn405e9r1lqoidhdd2ppbjg@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
>
> Not long after the apology (only days after, IIRC--check Google),
> Arnii continued to mention, just as he mentioned now, the death of his
> son--every time we came to argument, there it was again, as if the
> death were some kind of weapon against me.

Where in google might we find these unhappy occurences?

[Sander deWaal]

dave weil > said:

>>I hereby ask all RAO posters to stop bringing up the subject of your
>>late son again.
>>Please show at least respect for Nate and let him rest in peace.

>Including Mr. Krueger, I trust.

That would include Arny as well, yes.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

[Sander deWaal]

The Devil > said:

>>I hereby ask all RAO posters to stop bringing up the subject of your
>>late son again.
>>Please show at least respect for Nate and let him rest in peace.

>You only need ask that of Arnii. He's the only one who finds his son's
>death useful material for Usenet arguments.

That would include Arny as well.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

[Arny Krueger]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:9nmmk09h2kjn9v64jr8o0n97c7u1avvhl6@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:21:29 +0200, Sander deWaal
> > wrote:
>
>> I hereby ask all RAO posters to stop bringing up the subject of your
>> late son again.
>> Please show at least respect for Nate and let him rest in peace.
>
> You only need ask that of Arnii. He's the only one who finds his son's
> death useful material for Usenet arguments.

Gosh, does this mean that Devil has finally become bored with exploting my
son's death against me? After only about 5 years?

Of course all that lousy excuse for a human being that posts as Devil need
do, is invent a new sockpuppet and use the sockpuppet to carry on Devil's
vendetta against me, under a different name. For example Devil might start
posting as Kevin, or Margaret, or Jamie...

Oh, I forgot, those sockpuppet's names are already taken!

What was I thinking?

;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> The Devil > said:
>
>>> I hereby ask all RAO posters to stop bringing up the subject of your
>>> late son again.
>>> Please show at least respect for Nate and let him rest in peace.
>
>> You only need ask that of Arnii. He's the only one who finds his
>> son's death useful material for Usenet arguments.
>
> That would include Arny as well.

Here's the deal. As long as anybody on RAO mention any names of my family's
members as they see fit, I'll continue to mention any names of my family's
members as I see fit.

[Arny Krueger]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:vummk010o31ovn3irvpa2hlr0ktpqjou57@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:47:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>>> Not long after the apology (only days after, IIRC--check Google),
>>> Arnii continued to mention, just as he mentioned now, the death of
>>> his son--every time we came to argument, there it was again, as if
>>> the death were some kind of weapon against me.
>>
>> Where in google might we find these unhappy occurences?
>
> I don't know, but if you want to press the matter I certainly will
> find the evidence. I know that it was you who carried on this line of
> attack, just as you initiated it now, after I had apologised (and you
> had accepted my apology) over the phone. You just did it now--
> again--and you did it some years back.

IOW Devil, you're lying.

Again.

[Sander deWaal]

The Devil > said:

>>I may disagree with you, I may not like your online personae, I may
>>poke fun at you and mock you, but never on the subject of your late
>>son.
>>I have no kids, so I can't imagine what it must be like to lose
>>someone you raised and love so much.
>>I can only imagine (and even that isn't really true since it hasn't
>>happened yet) what it would be like to lose my wife though.

>I do have kids--three of them--and what I said about Arnii caused me
>more personal problems than anyone on this group knows. I was so
>disgusted by my behaviour, I called Arnii and apologised for the
>things I had said to him. Arnii was gracious and said he accepted my
>apology. I actually felt relieved. I may sometimes play hard here, but
>I really am a human being at the end of the day--and I do get carried
>away further than most.

>Not long after the apology (only days after, IIRC--check Google),
>Arnii continued to mention, just as he mentioned now, the death of his
>son--every time we came to argument, there it was again, as if the
>death were some kind of weapon against me. He also accused me (and
>others) of sending those imaginary porno emails. I may sometimes be a
>soft-touch, but I'm not an idiot. After seeing many repetitions of
>this ploy (I can only guess he saw my apology as weakness), I recanted
>my apology and I no longer give a flying silver fart what he or anyone
>else thinks about the way I treat him. Let's also not forget that at
>the time of Arnii's loss, Arnii was the most jovial about moving
>around earth and collecting a few dollars for some weeds to chuck on
>the coffin.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this.
If you mean he kept posting to Usenet and seemed unaffected by the
event, maybe that's just the way some people act to get their life
back together.
I don't know, like I said I wasn't around RAO at that time.

>Arnii deserves everything, *everything*, he gets.

I don't know exactly what has happened between you and Arny, and of
course you and anyone else must make his own decision in this.
I also noticed that Arny himself sometimes mentions his son's death
for apparently no reason. That's up to him. It would be better if he
didn't, and I can't understand it either.

But in my view, regardless what Arny says, he doesn't deserve to be
haunted with accusations about perversions regarding his deceased
son. That's just beyond a certain decency border to me.

That's the reason I asked. And the plea goes for Arny as well.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>> That would include Arny as well.

>Here's the deal. As long as anybody on RAO mention any names of my family's
>members as they see fit, I'll continue to mention any names of my family's
>members as I see fit.

Of course you have the right to mention anything you like, but like I
noticed in this thread, it was you who brought up the subject, not
Devil. From there, you have seen that things have escalated again.
FWIW, I'm not engaging in attacks like that, nor am I endorsing them.
However, if I remain silent when it happens, don't automatically
assume I approve of what's happening. I'm not, and I've said so
explicitly in this thread.

I think I've made my viewpoints clear now.
Audio fights are enough for me.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

[Bruce J. Richman]

Arny Krueger wrote:


>"Bruce J. Richman" > wrote in message

>
>> Yes, can I help you? :0)
>
>Doctor, cure thyself, first.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Krueger, your delusional beliefs are incurable. Gratuitous, unprovoked
personal insult and projection of Krueger's problems noted.



Bruce J. Richman

[ScottW]

"The Devil" > wrote in message
news:benmk0tkbahqeibtc9co3i112ck7a66j7b@rdmzrnewst xt.nz...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:53:41 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>>"The Devil" > wrote in message
>>news:vummk010o31ovn3irvpa2hlr0ktpqjou57@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:47:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Not long after the apology (only days after, IIRC--check Google),
>>>>> Arnii continued to mention, just as he mentioned now, the death of
>>>>> his son--every time we came to argument, there it was again, as if
>>>>> the death were some kind of weapon against me.
>>>>
>>>> Where in google might we find these unhappy occurences?
>>>
>>> I don't know, but if you want to press the matter I certainly will
>>> find the evidence. I know that it was you who carried on this line of
>>> attack, just as you initiated it now, after I had apologised (and you
>>> had accepted my apology) over the phone. You just did it now--
>>> again--and you did it some years back.
>>
>>IOW Devil, you're lying.
>>
>>Again.
>
> Just out of interest, is there *anyone* out there who believes him?

Not I.

But I am more interested in why Newark or spc technologies would be so
silly as to omit specifying the plating on an rca phono jack. Oh well,
radio shack does color code the little plastic core which is useful so I
guess their good for something.

I want you to know I ordered the biggest fattest natural aluminum knob for
my pot I could find because I like to polish my knob.

ScottW

[Clyde Slick]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
news:fKL2d.97048$yh.2784@fed1read05...
>
> "The Devil" > wrote in message
> news:benmk0tkbahqeibtc9co3i112ck7a66j7b@rdmzrnewst xt.nz...
> > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:53:41 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"The Devil" > wrote in message
> >>news:vummk010o31ovn3irvpa2hlr0ktpqjou57@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
> >>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:47:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Not long after the apology (only days after, IIRC--check Google),
> >>>>> Arnii continued to mention, just as he mentioned now, the death of
> >>>>> his son--every time we came to argument, there it was again, as if
> >>>>> the death were some kind of weapon against me.
> >>>>
> >>>> Where in google might we find these unhappy occurences?
> >>>
> >>> I don't know, but if you want to press the matter I certainly will
> >>> find the evidence. I know that it was you who carried on this line of
> >>> attack, just as you initiated it now, after I had apologised (and you
> >>> had accepted my apology) over the phone. You just did it now--
> >>> again--and you did it some years back.
> >>
> >>IOW Devil, you're lying.
> >>
> >>Again.
> >
> > Just out of interest, is there *anyone* out there who believes him?
>
> Not I.
>
> But I am more interested in why Newark or spc technologies would be so
> silly as to omit specifying the plating on an rca phono jack. Oh well,
> radio shack does color code the little plastic core which is useful so I
> guess their good for something.
>
> I want you to know I ordered the biggest fattest natural aluminum knob for
> my pot I could find because I like to polish my knob.
>

This doesn't have anything to do with Mrs. K, does it?

[tor b]

dave "little thang" weil > wrote in message >...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:37:26 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
> >"The Devil" > wrote in message
> >news:3mflk0ta42uhjpoh14tupuegh60p3r1mct@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
> >
> >> Have you ever used an 83 rectifier valve for a power- or pre-amp? Know
> >> what the voltage drop is? Any good? I find myself rather drawn to the
> >> danger of glowing hot mercury vapour. :-)
> >
> >The 83 is for wimps. When I was in my vacuum tube phase, I used a pair of
> >866's. My favorite lrge output tubes were 211s and 304TLs.
>
> Is your name Sander? I didn't think so.
>
> BTW, Freud would have a field day with your paragraph.


Speaking of Freud, how's that penis envy coming, dave? ;-)

[dave weil]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:53:07 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

>> The Devil > said:
>>
>>>> I hereby ask all RAO posters to stop bringing up the subject of your
>>>> late son again.
>>>> Please show at least respect for Nate and let him rest in peace.
>>
>>> You only need ask that of Arnii. He's the only one who finds his
>>> son's death useful material for Usenet arguments.
>>
>> That would include Arny as well.
>
>Here's the deal. As long as anybody on RAO mention any names of my family's
>members as they see fit, I'll continue to mention any names of my family's
>members as I see fit.

Well, there ya go. How many people will use their families as weapons?
Especially deceased ones?

If it were anyone other than Arnold, I'd say that this is tragic.

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>
>>> That would include Arny as well.
>
>> Here's the deal. As long as anybody on RAO mention any names of my
>> family's members as they see fit, I'll continue to mention any names
>> of my family's members as I see fit.
>
> Of course you have the right to mention anything you like, but like I
> noticed in this thread, it was you who brought up the subject, not
> Devil.

It's just a matter of timing.

BTW Sander brought it up again, so here's my licence back.

When I say drop it permanently, I mean permanently and NOW!

[dave weil]

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 06:19:29 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

>> "Arny Krueger" > said:
>>
>>>> That would include Arny as well.
>>
>>> Here's the deal. As long as anybody on RAO mention any names of my
>>> family's members as they see fit, I'll continue to mention any names
>>> of my family's members as I see fit.
>>
>> Of course you have the right to mention anything you like, but like I
>> noticed in this thread, it was you who brought up the subject, not
>> Devil.
>
>It's just a matter of timing.
>
>BTW Sander brought it up again, so here's my licence back.
>
>When I say drop it permanently, I mean permanently and NOW!

You first. You quit bringing it up and I'll bet it never gets
mentioned ever again.

You can't though. It's part of your strategy.

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius > said:

>Sander deWaal said:

>> >Arnii deserves everything, *everything*, he gets.

>> I don't know exactly what has happened between you and Arny, and of
>> course you and anyone else must make his own decision in this.
>> I also noticed that Arny himself sometimes mentions his son's death
>> for apparently no reason. That's up to him. It would be better if he
>> didn't, and I can't understand it either.

>This discussion arose out of your suggestion that the subject be dropped
>permanently by everybody.

>> But in my view, regardless what Arny says, he doesn't deserve to be
>> haunted with accusations about perversions regarding his deceased
>> son. That's just beyond a certain decency border to me.

>I've said this before, but apparently it bears repeating: Considerations
>and sensitivities one might bear towards regular people have proven
>worthless in dealing with the Krooborg. This creature originally posted
>the plea for funeral donations on a slew of newsgroups. Then he
>castigated people for not expressing sympathy about his loss, or not
>responding quickly enough, or not sincerely enough, or not repeating it
>enough. I say that in the face of this horrendous haranguing, mocking
>such a manipulative and overbearing individual is entirely warranted.

>> That's the reason I asked. And the plea goes for Arny as well.

>A nice idea. Too bad you won't get your wish. From this point forward,
>it's a lead-pipe guarantee that the first mention of this subject will
>come from Arnii Krooger. Guaranteed!

That's up to him. I won't let Arny or anyone else determine what to
say or how to act on this newsgroup.
In the end, I'll have only to answer to myself if I didn't cross my
own borders of decency.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" > said:

>>>> That would include Arny as well.

>>> Here's the deal. As long as anybody on RAO mention any names of my
>>> family's members as they see fit, I'll continue to mention any names
>>> of my family's members as I see fit.

>> Of course you have the right to mention anything you like, but like I
>> noticed in this thread, it was you who brought up the subject, not
>> Devil.

>It's just a matter of timing.

>BTW Sander brought it up again, so here's my licence back.

??? I brought it up?
If so, it was to express my thoughts about the matter.
If you go back up the thread you'll see I actually asked of everyone
to drop it.

>When I say drop it permanently, I mean permanently and NOW!

Done. This will be my last word regarding this.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."