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Michael McKelvy
September 17th 04, 01:13 AM
The First Rathergate
The CBS anchor's precarious relationship with the truth.

By Anne Morse
Critics are calling the media scandal over the Jerry Killian forgeries
"Rathergate." But to thousands of Vietnam veterans, the real Rathergate took
place 16 years ago when Dan Rather successfully foisted a fraud onto the
American people. Then, unlike now, there was no blogosphere to expose him.


On June 2, 1988, CBS aired an hour-long special titled CBS Reports: The Wall
Within, which CBS trumpeted as the "rebirth of the TV documentary." It
purported to tell the true story of Vietnam through the eyes of six of the
men who fought there. And what terrible stories they had to tell.

"I think I was one of the highest trained, underpaid, eighteen-cent-an-hour
assassins ever put together by a team of people who knew exactly what they
were looking for," said Steve Southards, a Navy SEAL who told Rather he had
escaped society to live in the forests of Washington state. Under Rather's
gentle coaxing, Southards described slaughtering Vietnamese civilians,
making his work appear to be that of the North Vietnamese.

"You're telling me that you went into the village, killed people, burned
part of the village, then made it appear that the other side had done this?"
Rather asked.

"Yeah," Steve replied. "It was kill VC, and I was good at what I did."

Steve arrived home "in a straitjacket, addicted to alcohol and drugs"
knowing that "combat had made him different," Rather intoned. "He asked for
help; that's unusual, many vets don't. They hold back until they explode."

Rather then moved on to suicidal veteran named George Grule, who was
stationed on the aircraft carrier Ticonderoga off the coast of Vietnam
during a secret mission. Grule described the horror of watching a friend
walk into the spinning propeller of a plane, which chopped him to pieces and
sprayed Grule with his blood. The memory of this trauma left Grule, like
Steve, unable to function in normal society.

Neither could Mikal Rice, who broke down as he described a grenade attack at
Cam Ranh Bay, which blew in half the body of a buddy, "Sergeant Call." "He
died in my arms," Rice tearfully recalled. Rice described how the sound of
thunder and cars backfiring would regularly trigger his terrible memories.

Most horrific of all were the memories of Terry Bradley, a "fighting
sergeant" who told Rather he had skinned alive 50 Vietnamese men, women, and
children in one hour and stacked their bodies in piles. "Could you do this
for one hour of your life, you stack up every way a body could be mangled,
up into a body, an arm, a tit, an eyeball . . . Imagine us over there for a
year and doing it intensely," Bradley said. "That is sick."

"You've got to be angry about it," Rather replied. "I'm suicidal about it,"
Bradley responded.

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, drug abuse, alcoholism, joblessness,
homelessness, suicidal thoughts: These tattered warriors suffered from them
all.

The The Wall Within was hailed by critics who - like the Washington Post's
Tom Shales - gushed that the documentary was "extraordinarily powerful."
There was just one problem: Almost none of it was true.

The truth was uncovered by B.G. Burkett, a Vietnam veteran and author of
Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its
History (with Glenna Whitley). Burkett discovered that only one of the vets
had actually served in combat. Steve Southards, who'd claimed to be a
16-year-old Navy SEAL assassin, had actually served as an equipment
repairman stationed far from combat. Later transferred to Subic Bay in the
Philippines, Steve spent most of his time in the brig for repeatedly going
AWOL.

And George Gruel, who claimed he was traumatized by the sight of his friend
being chopped to pieces by a propeller? Navy records reveal that a propeller
accident did take place on the Ticonderoga when Gruel was aboard - but that
he wasn't around when it happened. During Gruel's tour, the ship had been
converted to an antisubmarine warfare carrier which operated, not on "secret
mission" along the Vietnam coast, but on training missions off the
California coastline. Nevertheless, Burkett notes, Gruel receives $1,952 a
month from the Veterans Administration for "psychological trauma" related to
an event he only heard about.

Mikal Rice - the anguished vet who claimed to have cradled his dying buddy
in his arms - actually spent his tour as a guard with an MP company at Cam
Ranh Bay. He never saw combat. Neither did Terry Bradley, who was not the
"fighting sergeant" he'd claimed to be. Instead, military records reveal he
served as an ammo handler in the 25th Infantry Division and spent nearly a
year in the stockade for being AWOL. That's good news for the hundreds of
Vietnamese civilians Bradley claimed to have slaughtered. But it doesn't say
much for Dan Rather's credibility.

As Burkett notes, the records of all of these vets were easily checkable
through Freedom of Information Act requests of their military records -
something Rather and his producers simply didn't bother to do. They accepted
at face value the lurid tales of atrocities committed in Vietnam and the
stories of criminal behavior, drug addiction, and despair at home.

Perhaps that's because this is what they wanted to believe. Says Burkett:
The Wall Within "precisely fit what Americans have grown to believe about
the Vietnam War and its veterans: They routinely committed war crimes. They
came home from an immoral war traumatized, vilified, then pitied. Jobless,
homeless, addicted, suicidal, they remain afflicted by inner conflicts,
stranded on the fringes of society."

Burkett, who did check the records of the vets Rather interviewed, shared
his discoveries with CBS. So did Thomas Turnage, then administrator of the
Veterans Administration, who was appalled by Rather's use of bogus
statistics on the rates of suicide, homelessness, and mental illness among
Vietnam veterans - statistics that can also be easily checked. Rather
initially refused to comment, and CBS spokeswoman Kim Akhtar said, "The
producers stand behind their story. They had enough proof of who they are."
For his part, CBS president Howard Stringer defended the network with
irrelevancies. "Your criticisms were not shared by a vast majority of our
viewers," he sniffed, adding that "CBS News and its affiliates received
acclaim from most quarters . . . In sum, this was a broadcast of which we at
CBS News and I personally am proud. There are no apologies to make."

Sarah Lee Pilley, who ran a restaurant in Colville, Washington where the CBS
crew dined while filming The Wall Within, would not agree. The wife of a
retired Marine lieutenant colonel who saw combat in Vietnam, Pilley, said
she "got the distinct feeling that CBS had a story they had decided on
before they left New York." After interviewing 87 Vietnam veterans, CBS
chose the "four or five saddest cases to put on the film," Pilley said. "The
factual part of it didn't seem to matter as long as they captured the high
drama and emotion that these few individuals offered. We felt all along that
CBS committed tremendous exploitation of some very sick individuals."

Why would Dan Rather do such a thing? Partly because the stories of
deranged, trip-wire vets is much more dramatic than the true story: That
most Vietnam veterans came home to live normal, productive, happy lives.
Second, Rather apparently wanted the story of whacked-out Vietnam veterans
to be true - just as he now wants the Jerry Killian story to be true.

Or maybe - despite a preponderance of the evidence - he considered the
sources of these tales of Vietnam atrocities "unimpeachable." As angry
Vietnam veterans began calling CBS to complain about the factual
inaccuracies of The Wall Within, Perry Wolff, the executive producer who
wrote the documentary, claimed that "No one has attacked us on the facts."
Despite the growing evidence that he'd been had, Rather also continued to
defend the documentary - which is now part of CBS's video history series on
the Vietnam War.

Perhaps Vietnam veterans ought to take a page out of the book of the Swift
Boat Veterans for Truth and air television ads exposing Rather's deceits -
something along the lines of: "Dan Rather lied about his Vietnam
documentary. I know. I was there. I saw what happened. When the chips were
down, you could not count on Dan Rather."

Certainly, we cannot count on him for the truth. During a 1993 speech to the
Radio and Television News Directors Association, Rather criticized his
colleagues for competing with entertainment shows for "dead bodies, mayhem,
and lurid tales." "We should all be ashamed of what we have and have not
done, measured against what we could do," Rather said.

Thousands of Vietnam veterans - not to mention the Bush campaign - would
agree.

- Anne Morse is a writer living in Maryland.

Clyde Slick
September 17th 04, 02:40 AM
"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> The First Rathergate
> The CBS anchor's precarious relationship with the truth.
>
> By Anne Morse
> Critics are calling the media scandal over the Jerry Killian forgeries
> "Rathergate." But to thousands of Vietnam veterans, the real Rathergate
took
> place 16 years ago when Dan Rather successfully foisted a fraud onto the
> American people. Then, unlike now, there was no blogosphere to expose him.
>
>
> On June 2, 1988, CBS aired an hour-long special titled CBS Reports: The
Wall
> Within, which CBS trumpeted as the "rebirth of the TV documentary." It
> purported to tell the true story of Vietnam through the eyes of six of the
> men who fought there. And what terrible stories they had to tell.
>
> "I think I was one of the highest trained, underpaid,
eighteen-cent-an-hour
> assassins ever put together by a team of people who knew exactly what they
> were looking for," said Steve Southards, a Navy SEAL who told Rather he
had
> escaped society to live in the forests of Washington state. Under Rather's
> gentle coaxing, Southards described slaughtering Vietnamese civilians,
> making his work appear to be that of the North Vietnamese.
>
> "You're telling me that you went into the village, killed people, burned
> part of the village, then made it appear that the other side had done
this?"
> Rather asked.
>
> "Yeah," Steve replied. "It was kill VC, and I was good at what I did."
>
> Steve arrived home "in a straitjacket, addicted to alcohol and drugs"
> knowing that "combat had made him different," Rather intoned. "He asked
for
> help; that's unusual, many vets don't. They hold back until they explode."
>
> Rather then moved on to suicidal veteran named George Grule, who was
> stationed on the aircraft carrier Ticonderoga off the coast of Vietnam
> during a secret mission. Grule described the horror of watching a friend
> walk into the spinning propeller of a plane, which chopped him to pieces
and
> sprayed Grule with his blood. The memory of this trauma left Grule, like
> Steve, unable to function in normal society.
>
> Neither could Mikal Rice, who broke down as he described a grenade attack
at
> Cam Ranh Bay, which blew in half the body of a buddy, "Sergeant Call." "He
> died in my arms," Rice tearfully recalled. Rice described how the sound of
> thunder and cars backfiring would regularly trigger his terrible memories.
>
> Most horrific of all were the memories of Terry Bradley, a "fighting
> sergeant" who told Rather he had skinned alive 50 Vietnamese men, women,
and
> children in one hour and stacked their bodies in piles. "Could you do this
> for one hour of your life, you stack up every way a body could be mangled,
> up into a body, an arm, a tit, an eyeball . . . Imagine us over there for
a
> year and doing it intensely," Bradley said. "That is sick."
>
> "You've got to be angry about it," Rather replied. "I'm suicidal about
it,"
> Bradley responded.
>
> Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, drug abuse, alcoholism, joblessness,
> homelessness, suicidal thoughts: These tattered warriors suffered from
them
> all.
>
> The The Wall Within was hailed by critics who - like the Washington Post's
> Tom Shales - gushed that the documentary was "extraordinarily powerful."
> There was just one problem: Almost none of it was true.
>
> The truth was uncovered by B.G. Burkett, a Vietnam veteran and author of
> Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its
> History (with Glenna Whitley). Burkett discovered that only one of the
vets
> had actually served in combat. Steve Southards, who'd claimed to be a
> 16-year-old Navy SEAL assassin, had actually served as an equipment
> repairman stationed far from combat. Later transferred to Subic Bay in the
> Philippines, Steve spent most of his time in the brig for repeatedly going
> AWOL.
>
> And George Gruel, who claimed he was traumatized by the sight of his
friend
> being chopped to pieces by a propeller? Navy records reveal that a
propeller
> accident did take place on the Ticonderoga when Gruel was aboard - but
that
> he wasn't around when it happened. During Gruel's tour, the ship had been
> converted to an antisubmarine warfare carrier which operated, not on
"secret
> mission" along the Vietnam coast, but on training missions off the
> California coastline. Nevertheless, Burkett notes, Gruel receives $1,952 a
> month from the Veterans Administration for "psychological trauma" related
to
> an event he only heard about.
>
> Mikal Rice - the anguished vet who claimed to have cradled his dying buddy
> in his arms - actually spent his tour as a guard with an MP company at Cam
> Ranh Bay. He never saw combat. Neither did Terry Bradley, who was not the
> "fighting sergeant" he'd claimed to be. Instead, military records reveal
he
> served as an ammo handler in the 25th Infantry Division and spent nearly a
> year in the stockade for being AWOL. That's good news for the hundreds of
> Vietnamese civilians Bradley claimed to have slaughtered. But it doesn't
say
> much for Dan Rather's credibility.
>
> As Burkett notes, the records of all of these vets were easily checkable
> through Freedom of Information Act requests of their military records -
> something Rather and his producers simply didn't bother to do. They
accepted
> at face value the lurid tales of atrocities committed in Vietnam and the
> stories of criminal behavior, drug addiction, and despair at home.
>
> Perhaps that's because this is what they wanted to believe. Says Burkett:
> The Wall Within "precisely fit what Americans have grown to believe about
> the Vietnam War and its veterans: They routinely committed war crimes.
They
> came home from an immoral war traumatized, vilified, then pitied. Jobless,
> homeless, addicted, suicidal, they remain afflicted by inner conflicts,
> stranded on the fringes of society."
>
> Burkett, who did check the records of the vets Rather interviewed, shared
> his discoveries with CBS. So did Thomas Turnage, then administrator of the
> Veterans Administration, who was appalled by Rather's use of bogus
> statistics on the rates of suicide, homelessness, and mental illness among
> Vietnam veterans - statistics that can also be easily checked. Rather
> initially refused to comment, and CBS spokeswoman Kim Akhtar said, "The
> producers stand behind their story. They had enough proof of who they
are."
> For his part, CBS president Howard Stringer defended the network with
> irrelevancies. "Your criticisms were not shared by a vast majority of our
> viewers," he sniffed, adding that "CBS News and its affiliates received
> acclaim from most quarters . . . In sum, this was a broadcast of which we
at
> CBS News and I personally am proud. There are no apologies to make."
>
> Sarah Lee Pilley, who ran a restaurant in Colville, Washington where the
CBS
> crew dined while filming The Wall Within, would not agree. The wife of a
> retired Marine lieutenant colonel who saw combat in Vietnam, Pilley, said
> she "got the distinct feeling that CBS had a story they had decided on
> before they left New York." After interviewing 87 Vietnam veterans, CBS
> chose the "four or five saddest cases to put on the film," Pilley said.
"The
> factual part of it didn't seem to matter as long as they captured the high
> drama and emotion that these few individuals offered. We felt all along
that
> CBS committed tremendous exploitation of some very sick individuals."
>
> Why would Dan Rather do such a thing? Partly because the stories of
> deranged, trip-wire vets is much more dramatic than the true story: That
> most Vietnam veterans came home to live normal, productive, happy lives.
> Second, Rather apparently wanted the story of whacked-out Vietnam veterans
> to be true - just as he now wants the Jerry Killian story to be true.
>
> Or maybe - despite a preponderance of the evidence - he considered the
> sources of these tales of Vietnam atrocities "unimpeachable." As angry
> Vietnam veterans began calling CBS to complain about the factual
> inaccuracies of The Wall Within, Perry Wolff, the executive producer who
> wrote the documentary, claimed that "No one has attacked us on the facts."
> Despite the growing evidence that he'd been had, Rather also continued to
> defend the documentary - which is now part of CBS's video history series
on
> the Vietnam War.
>
> Perhaps Vietnam veterans ought to take a page out of the book of the Swift
> Boat Veterans for Truth and air television ads exposing Rather's deceits -
> something along the lines of: "Dan Rather lied about his Vietnam
> documentary. I know. I was there. I saw what happened. When the chips were
> down, you could not count on Dan Rather."
>
> Certainly, we cannot count on him for the truth. During a 1993 speech to
the
> Radio and Television News Directors Association, Rather criticized his
> colleagues for competing with entertainment shows for "dead bodies,
mayhem,
> and lurid tales." "We should all be ashamed of what we have and have not
> done, measured against what we could do," Rather said.
>
> Thousands of Vietnam veterans - not to mention the Bush campaign - would
> agree.
>
> - Anne Morse is a writer living in Maryland.
>
>

Clyde Slick
September 17th 04, 02:43 AM
"Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> The First Rathergate
> The CBS anchor's precarious relationship with the truth.
>
> By Anne Morse
> Critics are calling the media scandal over the Jerry Killian forgeries
> "Rathergate." But to thousands of Vietnam veterans, the real Rathergate
took
> place 16 years ago when Dan Rather successfully foisted a fraud onto the
> American people. Then, unlike now, there was no blogosphere to expose him.
>
>
> On June 2, 1988, CBS aired an hour-long special titled CBS Reports: The
Wall
> Within, which CBS trumpeted as the "rebirth of the TV documentary." It
> purported to tell the true story of Vietnam through the eyes of six of the
> men who fought there. And what terrible stories they had to tell.
>
> "I think I was one of the highest trained, underpaid,
eighteen-cent-an-hour
> assassins ever put together by a team of people who knew exactly what they
> were looking for," said Steve Southards, a Navy SEAL who told Rather he
had
> escaped society to live in the forests of Washington state. Under Rather's
> gentle coaxing, Southards described slaughtering Vietnamese civilians,
> making his work appear to be that of the North Vietnamese.
>
> "You're telling me that you went into the village, killed people, burned
> part of the village, then made it appear that the other side had done
this?"
> Rather asked.
>
> "Yeah," Steve replied. "It was kill VC, and I was good at what I did."
>
> Steve arrived home "in a straitjacket, addicted to alcohol and drugs"
> knowing that "combat had made him different," Rather intoned. "He asked
for
> help; that's unusual, many vets don't. They hold back until they explode."
>
> Rather then moved on to suicidal veteran named George Grule, who was
> stationed on the aircraft carrier Ticonderoga off the coast of Vietnam
> during a secret mission. Grule described the horror of watching a friend
> walk into the spinning propeller of a plane, which chopped him to pieces
and
> sprayed Grule with his blood. The memory of this trauma left Grule, like
> Steve, unable to function in normal society.
>
> Neither could Mikal Rice, who broke down as he described a grenade attack
at
> Cam Ranh Bay, which blew in half the body of a buddy, "Sergeant Call." "He
> died in my arms," Rice tearfully recalled. Rice described how the sound of
> thunder and cars backfiring would regularly trigger his terrible memories.
>
> Most horrific of all were the memories of Terry Bradley, a "fighting
> sergeant" who told Rather he had skinned alive 50 Vietnamese men, women,
and
> children in one hour and stacked their bodies in piles. "Could you do this
> for one hour of your life, you stack up every way a body could be mangled,
> up into a body, an arm, a tit, an eyeball . . . Imagine us over there for
a
> year and doing it intensely," Bradley said. "That is sick."
>
> "You've got to be angry about it," Rather replied. "I'm suicidal about
it,"
> Bradley responded.
>
> Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, drug abuse, alcoholism, joblessness,
> homelessness, suicidal thoughts: These tattered warriors suffered from
them
> all.
>
> The The Wall Within was hailed by critics who - like the Washington Post's
> Tom Shales - gushed that the documentary was "extraordinarily powerful."
> There was just one problem: Almost none of it was true.
>
> The truth was uncovered by B.G. Burkett, a Vietnam veteran and author of
> Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its
> History (with Glenna Whitley). Burkett discovered that only one of the
vets
> had actually served in combat. Steve Southards, who'd claimed to be a
> 16-year-old Navy SEAL assassin, had actually served as an equipment
> repairman stationed far from combat. Later transferred to Subic Bay in the
> Philippines, Steve spent most of his time in the brig for repeatedly going
> AWOL.
>
> And George Gruel, who claimed he was traumatized by the sight of his
friend
> being chopped to pieces by a propeller? Navy records reveal that a
propeller
> accident did take place on the Ticonderoga when Gruel was aboard - but
that
> he wasn't around when it happened. During Gruel's tour, the ship had been
> converted to an antisubmarine warfare carrier which operated, not on
"secret
> mission" along the Vietnam coast, but on training missions off the
> California coastline. Nevertheless, Burkett notes, Gruel receives $1,952 a
> month from the Veterans Administration for "psychological trauma" related
to
> an event he only heard about.
>
> Mikal Rice - the anguished vet who claimed to have cradled his dying buddy
> in his arms - actually spent his tour as a guard with an MP company at Cam
> Ranh Bay. He never saw combat. Neither did Terry Bradley, who was not the
> "fighting sergeant" he'd claimed to be. Instead, military records reveal
he
> served as an ammo handler in the 25th Infantry Division and spent nearly a
> year in the stockade for being AWOL. That's good news for the hundreds of
> Vietnamese civilians Bradley claimed to have slaughtered. But it doesn't
say
> much for Dan Rather's credibility.
>
> As Burkett notes, the records of all of these vets were easily checkable
> through Freedom of Information Act requests of their military records -
> something Rather and his producers simply didn't bother to do. They
accepted
> at face value the lurid tales of atrocities committed in Vietnam and the
> stories of criminal behavior, drug addiction, and despair at home.
>
> Perhaps that's because this is what they wanted to believe. Says Burkett:
> The Wall Within "precisely fit what Americans have grown to believe about
> the Vietnam War and its veterans: They routinely committed war crimes.
They
> came home from an immoral war traumatized, vilified, then pitied. Jobless,
> homeless, addicted, suicidal, they remain afflicted by inner conflicts,
> stranded on the fringes of society."
>
> Burkett, who did check the records of the vets Rather interviewed, shared
> his discoveries with CBS. So did Thomas Turnage, then administrator of the
> Veterans Administration, who was appalled by Rather's use of bogus
> statistics on the rates of suicide, homelessness, and mental illness among
> Vietnam veterans - statistics that can also be easily checked. Rather
> initially refused to comment, and CBS spokeswoman Kim Akhtar said, "The
> producers stand behind their story. They had enough proof of who they
are."
> For his part, CBS president Howard Stringer defended the network with
> irrelevancies. "Your criticisms were not shared by a vast majority of our
> viewers," he sniffed, adding that "CBS News and its affiliates received
> acclaim from most quarters . . . In sum, this was a broadcast of which we
at
> CBS News and I personally am proud. There are no apologies to make."
>
> Sarah Lee Pilley, who ran a restaurant in Colville, Washington where the
CBS
> crew dined while filming The Wall Within, would not agree. The wife of a
> retired Marine lieutenant colonel who saw combat in Vietnam, Pilley, said
> she "got the distinct feeling that CBS had a story they had decided on
> before they left New York." After interviewing 87 Vietnam veterans, CBS
> chose the "four or five saddest cases to put on the film," Pilley said.
"The
> factual part of it didn't seem to matter as long as they captured the high
> drama and emotion that these few individuals offered. We felt all along
that
> CBS committed tremendous exploitation of some very sick individuals."
>
> Why would Dan Rather do such a thing? Partly because the stories of
> deranged, trip-wire vets is much more dramatic than the true story: That
> most Vietnam veterans came home to live normal, productive, happy lives.
> Second, Rather apparently wanted the story of whacked-out Vietnam veterans
> to be true - just as he now wants the Jerry Killian story to be true.
>
> Or maybe - despite a preponderance of the evidence - he considered the
> sources of these tales of Vietnam atrocities "unimpeachable." As angry
> Vietnam veterans began calling CBS to complain about the factual
> inaccuracies of The Wall Within, Perry Wolff, the executive producer who
> wrote the documentary, claimed that "No one has attacked us on the facts."
> Despite the growing evidence that he'd been had, Rather also continued to
> defend the documentary - which is now part of CBS's video history series
on
> the Vietnam War.
>
> Perhaps Vietnam veterans ought to take a page out of the book of the Swift
> Boat Veterans for Truth and air television ads exposing Rather's deceits -
> something along the lines of: "Dan Rather lied about his Vietnam
> documentary. I know. I was there. I saw what happened. When the chips were
> down, you could not count on Dan Rather."
>
> Certainly, we cannot count on him for the truth. During a 1993 speech to
the
> Radio and Television News Directors Association, Rather criticized his
> colleagues for competing with entertainment shows for "dead bodies,
mayhem,
> and lurid tales." "We should all be ashamed of what we have and have not
> done, measured against what we could do," Rather said.
>
> Thousands of Vietnam veterans - not to mention the Bush campaign - would
> agree.
>
> - Anne Morse is a writer living in Maryland.
>
>

Please clarify whether or not this B.G. Burkett
is, or is not, the same person as Lt Col (Ret) William
Burkett of Abeline, Texas, who is suspected of being Dan Rather's
source of the forged documents.

Michael McKelvy
September 17th 04, 04:40 AM
"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Michael McKelvy" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> The First Rathergate
>> The CBS anchor's precarious relationship with the truth.
>>
>> By Anne Morse
>>
>>
>
> Please clarify whether or not this B.G. Burkett
> is, or is not, the same person as Lt Col (Ret) William
> Burkett of Abeline, Texas, who is suspected of being Dan Rather's
> source of the forged documents.
>
I don't really know any more than what I cut from the article which I found
at National Review Online, that you see below.

I happened to be hear it mentioned on Larry Elder's radio program and
thought it might be of interest to some.


>> The truth was uncovered by B.G. Burkett, a Vietnam veteran and author of
> Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its
> History (with Glenna Whitley).

Greg Williams
September 17th 04, 02:03 PM
The conspiracy theory would say that the Republicans set CBS up.

It makes sense - focus the media's attention to a sensational but ultimately
trivial issue so that they ignore the much larger issues. After the
diversion is complete, repute the documents as forgeries (you would be able
to easily prove them as forgeries because you forged them). I have no idea
if he is involved, but if Karl Rove thought this up, he is a genius...


> They have just given you a story for diversion purposes...
> ...America is the country of Disney Land.

GeoSynch
September 18th 04, 09:31 PM
Andy Katz wrote:

> That's the complaint of crackpot conspiracy theorists the world over.

I suspect you're a liberal International Solidarity Movement supporter/sympathizer.
In other words, a self-hating Jew.


GeoSynch

Andy Katz
September 19th 04, 06:20 PM
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:31:07 GMT, "GeoSynch"
> wrote:

>Andy Katz wrote:
>
>> That's the complaint of crackpot conspiracy theorists the world over.
>
>I suspect you're a liberal International Solidarity Movement supporter/sympathizer.
>In other words, a self-hating Jew.

Oh pish posh.

Andy Katz

dourmaj
September 19th 04, 08:01 PM
"GeoSynch" > wrote in message et>...
> Andy Katz wrote:
>
> > That's the complaint of crackpot conspiracy theorists the world over.
>
> I suspect you're a liberal International Solidarity Movement supporter/sympathizer.
> In other words, a self-hating Jew.
>
>
> GeoSynch

I suppose that make you a homosexual nazi?

It takes balls to bring a discussion like this to the level you
brought it down to... I guess thats the only credit you deserve...

GeoSynch
September 20th 04, 12:45 AM
Andy Katz wrote:

>>> That's the complaint of crackpot conspiracy theorists the world over.

>>I suspect you're a liberal International Solidarity Movement supporter/sympathizer.
>>In other words, a self-hating Jew.

> Oh pish posh.

So, who'll be the next PM - Sharon or Netanyahu or that quisling Peres?


GeoSynch