EQUALIZERS BECOMMING EXTINCT?

[Lysle Huber]

I went to Alpine's website to look for an EQ to replace the 3321(I once
had). The 3321 had the slide controls and subwoofer switch on the front. I
like this EQ due to the ease of adjusting sound and the 1/2 DIN size. Alpine
appeared not to have any of this type of EQ any more. I have noticed some
stores selling the ERG-180 but I have heard it is being discontinued (and it
is not on Alpine's website). I have seen Sony, Pioneer, and Kenwood carry
similar ones like the Alpine but I am not sure about the quality of these. I
did have a DEQ 7600 by Pioneer but sold as it wouldn't fit in my new vehicle
along with my head unit.

Are these types of EQs still worth getting or is the trend going to be for
more elaborate processors?

[Happy Guy]

"Lysle Huber" > wrote in message
.. .
> I went to Alpine's website to look for an EQ to replace the 3321(I once
> had). The 3321 had the slide controls and subwoofer switch on the front. I
> like this EQ due to the ease of adjusting sound and the 1/2 DIN size.
Alpine
> appeared not to have any of this type of EQ any more. I have noticed some
> stores selling the ERG-180 but I have heard it is being discontinued (and
it
> is not on Alpine's website). I have seen Sony, Pioneer, and Kenwood carry
> similar ones like the Alpine but I am not sure about the quality of these.
I
> did have a DEQ 7600 by Pioneer but sold as it wouldn't fit in my new
vehicle
> along with my head unit.
>
> Are these types of EQs still worth getting or is the trend going to be for
> more elaborate processors?
>
>
>

I also had a 3321. It was really a great unit and hard to replace with any
other product.
Alpine replaced it with the 3322 which had a rotary dial instead of the
slider for sub xover freq
I still have mine and may still use it in a future project.

Check eBay for used models if you really liked it.

[jp]

Eq's are in extinction coz most of the stereos have them integreated, so
consummers don't really buy the old school eq's or preamps no more.
"Happy Guy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Lysle Huber" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > I went to Alpine's website to look for an EQ to replace the 3321(I once
> > had). The 3321 had the slide controls and subwoofer switch on the front.
I
> > like this EQ due to the ease of adjusting sound and the 1/2 DIN size.
> Alpine
> > appeared not to have any of this type of EQ any more. I have noticed
some
> > stores selling the ERG-180 but I have heard it is being discontinued
(and
> it
> > is not on Alpine's website). I have seen Sony, Pioneer, and Kenwood
carry
> > similar ones like the Alpine but I am not sure about the quality of
these.
> I
> > did have a DEQ 7600 by Pioneer but sold as it wouldn't fit in my new
> vehicle
> > along with my head unit.
> >
> > Are these types of EQs still worth getting or is the trend going to be
for
> > more elaborate processors?
> >
> >
> >
>
> I also had a 3321. It was really a great unit and hard to replace with
any
> other product.
> Alpine replaced it with the 3322 which had a rotary dial instead of the
> slider for sub xover freq
> I still have mine and may still use it in a future project.
>
> Check eBay for used models if you really liked it.
>
>

[jp]

Lower end ???? I don't know what brand your talking about, but if Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood, etc...HU's are low end quality, I don't know what in the hell you use.....
"John Durbin" > wrote in message .. .
which is too bad, because many of the outboard EQ's sound a helluva lot better than the cheesy digital EQ built into lower end and mid-level HU's these days.

JD

jp wrote:

Eq's are in extinction coz most of the stereos have them integreated, so
consummers don't really buy the old school eq's or preamps no more.
"Happy Guy" > wrote in message
...
"Lysle Huber" > wrote in message
.. .
I went to Alpine's website to look for an EQ to replace the 3321(I once
had). The 3321 had the slide controls and subwoofer switch on the front.
I
like this EQ due to the ease of adjusting sound and the 1/2 DIN size.
Alpine
appeared not to have any of this type of EQ any more. I have noticed
some
stores selling the ERG-180 but I have heard it is being discontinued
(and
it
is not on Alpine's website). I have seen Sony, Pioneer, and Kenwood
carry
similar ones like the Alpine but I am not sure about the quality of
these.
I
did have a DEQ 7600 by Pioneer but sold as it wouldn't fit in my new
vehicle
along with my head unit.

Are these types of EQs still worth getting or is the trend going to be
for
more elaborate processors?



I also had a 3321. It was really a great unit and hard to replace with
any
other product.
Alpine replaced it with the 3322 which had a rotary dial instead of the
slider for sub xover freq
I still have mine and may still use it in a future project.

Check eBay for used models if you really liked it.

[jp]

Ok dude, so explain why they are in extinction ?????????? DUDE??????????
"Hamilton Audio" > wrote in message . ca...
all those brands make cheesy, low end models dude...so back down. he's right. an audiocontrol EQ will have 100 times more control over the sound than the digital p.o.s. built into pretty well any head unit.

you need to get into a rockford symmetry type system to get digital processing thats any good...believe Pioneer has a Premier piece thats of similar nature...

we don't go THAT far very often where i'm at, so I'm not too familiar with the products in that arena.

Hamilton Audio
Car Audio, Security and Performance

"jp" > wrote in message ...
Lower end ???? I don't know what brand your talking about, but if Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood, etc...HU's are low end quality, I don't know what in the hell you use.....
"John Durbin" > wrote in message .. .
which is too bad, because many of the outboard EQ's sound a helluva lot better than the cheesy digital EQ built into lower end and mid-level HU's these days.

JD

jp wrote:

Eq's are in extinction coz most of the stereos have them integreated, so
consummers don't really buy the old school eq's or preamps no more.
"Happy Guy" > wrote in message
...
"Lysle Huber" > wrote in message
.. .
I went to Alpine's website to look for an EQ to replace the 3321(I once
had). The 3321 had the slide controls and subwoofer switch on the front.
I
like this EQ due to the ease of adjusting sound and the 1/2 DIN size.
Alpine
appeared not to have any of this type of EQ any more. I have noticed
some
stores selling the ERG-180 but I have heard it is being discontinued
(and
it
is not on Alpine's website). I have seen Sony, Pioneer, and Kenwood
carry
similar ones like the Alpine but I am not sure about the quality of
these.
I
did have a DEQ 7600 by Pioneer but sold as it wouldn't fit in my new
vehicle
along with my head unit.

Are these types of EQs still worth getting or is the trend going to be
for
more elaborate processors?



I also had a 3321. It was really a great unit and hard to replace with
any
other product.
Alpine replaced it with the 3322 which had a rotary dial instead of the
slider for sub xover freq
I still have mine and may still use it in a future project.

Check eBay for used models if you really liked it.

[John Durbin]

path of least resistance, end users with little or no experience, you
name it ...

It's not that you can't have good processing in a HU, it's just that
you don't typically get it until you're way up at the top end of most
brands' product line. Good DSP costs money just like good analog
processing does - cheap chip sets = mediocre performance, where ease of
use becomes the dominant characteristic and SQ suffers.

JD

jp wrote:

> Ok dude, so explain why they are in extinction ?????????? DUDE??????????
>
> "Hamilton Audio"
> >> wrote in message
> . ca...
> all those brands make cheesy, low end models dude...so back down.
> he's right. an audiocontrol EQ will have 100 times more control
> over the sound than the digital p.o.s. built into pretty well any
> head unit.
>
> you need to get into a rockford symmetry type system to get
> digital processing thats any good...believe Pioneer has a Premier
> piece thats of similar nature...
>
> we don't go THAT far very often where i'm at, so I'm not too
> familiar with the products in that arena.
>
> Hamilton Audio
> Car Audio, Security and Performance
>
>
> "jp"
> >> wrote in message
> ...
> Lower end ???? I don't know what brand your talking about, but
> if Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood, etc...HU's are low end quality, I
> don't know what in the hell you use.....
>
> "John Durbin"
> >> wrote in message
> .. .
> which is too bad, because many of the outboard EQ's sound
> a helluva lot better than the cheesy digital EQ built into
> lower end and mid-level HU's these days.
>
> JD
>
> jp wrote:
>
>>Eq's are in extinction coz most of the stereos have them integreated, so
>>consummers don't really buy the old school eq's or preamps no more.
>>"Happy Guy" > > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>>>"Lysle Huber" > > wrote in message
.. .
>>>
>>>
>>>>I went to Alpine's website to look for an EQ to replace the 3321(I once
>>>>had). The 3321 had the slide controls and subwoofer switch on the front.
>>>>
>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>like this EQ due to the ease of adjusting sound and the 1/2 DIN size.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Alpine
>>>
>>>
>>>>appeared not to have any of this type of EQ any more. I have noticed
>>>>
>>>>
>>some
>>
>>
>>>>stores selling the ERG-180 but I have heard it is being discontinued
>>>>
>>>>
>>(and
>>
>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>
>>>>is not on Alpine's website). I have seen Sony, Pioneer, and Kenwood
>>>>
>>>>
>>carry
>>
>>
>>>>similar ones like the Alpine but I am not sure about the quality of
>>>>
>>>>
>>these.
>>
>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>did have a DEQ 7600 by Pioneer but sold as it wouldn't fit in my new
>>>>
>>>>
>>>vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>>along with my head unit.
>>>>
>>>>Are these types of EQs still worth getting or is the trend going to be
>>>>
>>>>
>>for
>>
>>
>>>>more elaborate processors?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I also had a 3321. It was really a great unit and hard to replace with
>>>
>>>
>>any
>>
>>
>>>other product.
>>>Alpine replaced it with the 3322 which had a rotary dial instead of the
>>>slider for sub xover freq
>>>I still have mine and may still use it in a future project.
>>>
>>>Check eBay for used models if you really liked it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>