best pocket dig. rec. studio

[Josh Brown]

ok... In my mind I imagine this product exists:

a pocket/lighter-sized, battery-powered, stereo digital audio
player/recorder with an easy way to get the files off of it into a
computer (preferably mac). sound quality does not need to be great,
BUT, and this is a BIG BUTT, it needs to be able to handle high SPLs.
This isn't for taping concerts or for producing anything releaseable,
but for recording voice notes to myself, humming song or lyric ideas,
AND for recording "jams" with my band in which we come up with ideas
for new material to be worked out/arranged later. I tried using an
I-River MP3 player/recorder with the built-in mic and it couldn't
handle the SPLs in my band rehearsal space.

A big bonus would be the ability to discreetly record ambient sounds,
band concerts, conversations etc...

Thanks for any suggestions,

J

[Geoff Wood]

Josh Brown wrote:
> ok... In my mind I imagine this product exists:
>
> a pocket/lighter-sized, battery-powered, stereo digital audio
> player/recorder with an easy way to get the files off of it into a
> computer (preferably mac). sound quality does not need to be great,
> BUT, and this is a BIG BUTT, it needs to be able to handle high SPLs.


I've got a bigger butt than I would like, and a 'pocket digit' that is
larger than average - but is not a record by any stretch of the imagination.

I'm afraid the device you want does not exist. Recorders such as you
describe are designed for dictation, have p-poor sound quality, and
speech-only SPL tolerance.


geoff

[crow]

There are MP3 recorders that are VERY small. They still need mics though...

epp

"Geoff Wood" -nospam> wrote in message
...
> Josh Brown wrote:
> > ok... In my mind I imagine this product exists:
> >
> > a pocket/lighter-sized, battery-powered, stereo digital audio
> > player/recorder with an easy way to get the files off of it into a
> > computer (preferably mac). sound quality does not need to be great,
> > BUT, and this is a BIG BUTT, it needs to be able to handle high SPLs.
>
>
> I've got a bigger butt than I would like, and a 'pocket digit' that is
> larger than average - but is not a record by any stretch of the
imagination.
>
> I'm afraid the device you want does not exist. Recorders such as you
> describe are designed for dictation, have p-poor sound quality, and
> speech-only SPL tolerance.
>
>
> geoff
>
>

[gothika]

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:53:12 +1300, "Geoff Wood"
-nospam> wrote:

>Josh Brown wrote:
>> ok... In my mind I imagine this product exists:
>>
>> a pocket/lighter-sized, battery-powered, stereo digital audio
>> player/recorder with an easy way to get the files off of it into a
>> computer (preferably mac). sound quality does not need to be great,
>> BUT, and this is a BIG BUTT, it needs to be able to handle high SPLs.
>
>
>I've got a bigger butt than I would like, and a 'pocket digit' that is
>larger than average - but is not a record by any stretch of the imagination.
>
>I'm afraid the device you want does not exist. Recorders such as you
>describe are designed for dictation, have p-poor sound quality, and
>speech-only SPL tolerance.
>
Sounds to me that somebody wants to do a bit of bandit recording.
I saw it done once with radio transmitters.
Several individuals with high end portable radio transmitters , small
pocket preamps with mics spaced around the pit during the concert.
A van a block away from the stadium had a rolling recording studio
picking up the signals and cutting them down to 3/4 inch tape.
Is it still being done like this or have the pirates gotten more
sophisticated in their methods and technology?
>
>geoff
>

[Cassandra Hemer]

Hi Josh,

I've used a Sony Minidisc NetMD recorder with one of those cheap
(~$15) computer 'condenser mics' you get bundled with a soundblaster,
etc.

The first time I used it, I was shocked at the clarity. Full band
(guitars, bass, drums, keys, vocals) turned right up in a rehearsal
room with the mic in the middle.

So handy! My only gripe with it is the NetMD USB transfer facility
should allow to transfer the tracks to the PC 32 times faster than
recording it in, but it doesn't appear to work with tracks you've
recorded yourself. Making CD copies for the band members would be so
painless that way! It still pretty easy though. And if you leave
enough silence between tracks, it advances the track number for you!

FWIW, Sony tech support never replied about the USB problem... maybe
I'm doing something wrong there..

Hope I helped!

Cass



(Josh Brown) wrote in message >...
> ok... In my mind I imagine this product exists:
>
> a pocket/lighter-sized, battery-powered, stereo digital audio
> player/recorder with an easy way to get the files off of it into a
> computer (preferably mac). sound quality does not need to be great,
> BUT, and this is a BIG BUTT, it needs to be able to handle high SPLs.
> This isn't for taping concerts or for producing anything releaseable,
> but for recording voice notes to myself, humming song or lyric ideas,
> AND for recording "jams" with my band in which we come up with ideas
> for new material to be worked out/arranged later. I tried using an
> I-River MP3 player/recorder with the built-in mic and it couldn't
> handle the SPLs in my band rehearsal space.
>
> A big bonus would be the ability to discreetly record ambient sounds,
> band concerts, conversations etc...
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> J

[JB]

"crow" > wrote in
ink.net:

> There are MP3 recorders that are VERY small. They still need mics
> though...
>
> epp

OK, any suggestion on WHICH MP3 player and which mic to get?

Thanks,

J

[Len Moskowitz]

Josh Brown > wrote:

>a pocket/lighter-sized, battery-powered, stereo digital audio
>player/recorder with an easy way to get the files off of it into a
>computer (preferably mac). sound quality does not need to be great,
>BUT, and this is a BIG BUTT, it needs to be able to handle high SPLs.
>This isn't for taping concerts or for producing anything releaseable,
>but for recording voice notes to myself, humming song or lyric ideas,
>AND for recording "jams" with my band in which we come up with ideas
>for new material to be worked out/arranged later. I tried using an
>I-River MP3 player/recorder with the built-in mic and it couldn't
>handle the SPLs in my band rehearsal space.
>
>A big bonus would be the ability to discreetly record ambient sounds,
>band concerts, conversations etc...

iRiver iHP-120 (or -140) with a Core Sound Mic2496 and a set of HEB/4060
mics (using DPA 4060 capsules).

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912