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Chris Whealy
March 10th 04, 11:57 AM
Have you tried the "New York Snare" trick? Take the snare channel=20
through a compressor and back into the desk on another channel. Now mix =

the two signals together.

This should fatten up the snare sound.

But then, you said the batter head is torn. You may be on to a looser=20
here trying get get a strong sound out of a damaged drum...

=A30.025

Chris

Glen wrote:
> hello loved ones, i have a drum question :
>=20
> for one of my recording projects, the artist really loves my old alumin=
um
> yamaha snare drum. it's a power v special (=3Dcheap and 10-year old) dr=
um with
> a broken lug, a torn drumhead, and it sounds pretty strange. very low t=
one
> with a long ring. but it is true that it sounds pretty special, and it =
goes
> well with the song (it's a dark moody slow song) so there's really no r=
eason
> not to use it.
>=20
> we recorded the drums and everything sounds fat and groovy like he want=
s it.
> however, when the other instruments come in (piano + bass) the "tone" o=
f the
> snare drum kind of loses itself in the mix, and becomes less obvious. i=
find
> that a bit dissapointing, since it gives a quite unique sound to the so=
ng,
> and now it just sounds like a cardboard sheet.
>=20
> volume doesn't help, so how can i bring out the snare drum more ? shoul=
d i
> boost or block eq at some specific frequency ? should i pan it at a
> particular space between the piano and bass ? should i tune the drum so=
its
> tone is more/less in tune with the instruments ?
>=20
> lovely day to all,
>=20
> Glen.
>=20
>=20


--=20
The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
but the words of the wise are quiet and few.
--

Chris Whealy
March 10th 04, 12:05 PM
Have you tried the "New York Snare" trick? Take the snare channel=20
through a compressor and back into the desk on another channel. Now mix =

the two signals together.

This should fatten up the snare sound.

But then, you said the batter head is torn. You may be on to a looser=20
here trying get get a strong sound out of a damaged drum...

=A30.025

Chris

Glen wrote:

> hello loved ones, i have a drum question :
>=20
> for one of my recording projects, the artist really loves my old alumin=
um
> yamaha snare drum. it's a power v special (=3Dcheap and 10-year old) dr=
um with
> a broken lug, a torn drumhead, and it sounds pretty strange. very low t=
one
> with a long ring. but it is true that it sounds pretty special, and it =
goes
> well with the song (it's a dark moody slow song) so there's really no r=
eason
> not to use it.
>=20
> we recorded the drums and everything sounds fat and groovy like he want=
s it.
> however, when the other instruments come in (piano + bass) the "tone" o=
f the
> snare drum kind of loses itself in the mix, and becomes less obvious. i=
find
> that a bit dissapointing, since it gives a quite unique sound to the so=
ng,
> and now it just sounds like a cardboard sheet.
>=20
> volume doesn't help, so how can i bring out the snare drum more ? shoul=
d i
> boost or block eq at some specific frequency ? should i pan it at a
> particular space between the piano and bass ? should i tune the drum so=
its
> tone is more/less in tune with the instruments ?
>=20
> lovely day to all,
>=20
> Glen.
>=20
>=20


--=20
The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
but the words of the wise are quiet and few.
--

Scott Dorsey
March 10th 04, 02:32 PM
Glen <glentonatpandoradotbe> wrote:
>however, when the other instruments come in (piano + bass) the "tone" of the
>snare drum kind of loses itself in the mix, and becomes less obvious. i find
>that a bit dissapointing, since it gives a quite unique sound to the song,
>and now it just sounds like a cardboard sheet.
>
>volume doesn't help, so how can i bring out the snare drum more ? should i
>boost or block eq at some specific frequency ? should i pan it at a
>particular space between the piano and bass ? should i tune the drum so its
>tone is more/less in tune with the instruments ?

Are you spotmiking the snare? If not, try doing so.

You might try putting a new head on it, too.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Blind Joni
March 10th 04, 06:25 PM
>when the other instruments come in (piano + bass) the "tone" of the
>snare drum kind of loses itself in the mix, and becomes less obvious. i find
>that a bit dissapointing, since it gives a quite unique sound to the song,
>and now it just sounds like a cardboard sheet.
>

I have had luck in thepast few weeks with the Waves Trans-X plug in. I used it
to bring a good snare sample more up front when a pile of tracks got mixed in.
I'm assuming that re-recording is out of the question as that would make the
most sense.


John A. Chiara
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