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hank alrich
March 6th 04, 05:04 PM
Mike wrote:

> 1/ First of all, could somebody please explain what exactly the (P) and
> (C) symbols on a CD stand for? Is it correct that the (P) indicates the
> "copyright of the sound recording" or performance or something like that
> or does it mean something else? And what exactly does the (C) stand for?
> Is the (C) for copyright of the song and does that cover both the lyrics
> and the musical composition? Do these symbols have the exact same
> meaning worldwide by the way (I live in Europe)?

Do you have an equivalent of the US Library of Congress on your side of
the pond? If so, clear definitions will probably be there online. If
not, take a gander at:

www.copyright.gov

www.loc.gov/copyright


> 2/ second, an advanced question!: if you want to cover of a song and
> release it, is it then so that after the (P) your label will be
> mentioned, since your label has the copyright in the sound recording but
> that after the (C) the label (or publisher ?!) of the original artist
> will be mentioned, cause they still hold the copyright of the song?! How
> exactly is that?!


Go here:

http://www.harryfox.com/

http://www.nmpa.org/

--
ha

Samuel Barber
March 7th 04, 08:26 PM
(Mikey) wrote in message >...
> Mike > wrote in message >...
> or performance or something like that
> > or does it mean something else? And what exactly does the (C) stand for?
> > Is the (C) for copyright of the song and does that cover both the lyrics
> > and the musical composition?
>
> Yes.

No.

> > Also, if the (C) symbol refers to the copyright of the song (lyrics,
> > composition??), why is the record label being mentioned after the (C)
> > and not the publisher (or publishing affiliate of the label) since I
> > thought the publisher has the copyright of the song?!
> >
> The record label may also have the publishing rights.

Doesn't matter. The (C) does not relate to the composition. The (C)
covers everything except the music: the graphics, the text (including,
of course, the lyrics).

> but
> > that after the (C) the label (or publisher ?!) of the original artist
> > will be mentioned, cause they still hold the copyright of the song?!
>
> Yes.

No.

> > If that's true, how come that when DJ Sammy released his album "Heaven"
> > which contains covers like "Heaven" and "Boys of Summer", the album
> > credits say "(p) + © 2002 by Super M?.. Records a division of Gamba
> > Music GmbH". I can understand the (p), since his label has the copyright
> > of the sound recording he made, but how can there also be a © if the
> > album contains covers and © refers to copyright of the song, which he
> > doesn't have of all songs I suppose. Anybody could please clarify this?!

See above. If they printed the lyrics (you need permission to do
this!), there should be a (C) that refers to the original author.

Sam