Need advice on multitrack editing software (PC)

[Eric Lee Productions, Inc.]

Folks,

I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing software that
handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just simultaneous stereo
"events"). What works for you?

I welcome your feedback.

Sincerely,
--
Eric Lee
Voice Talent / On-Camera / Producer / Writer
/ www.ericleeproductions.com
717-397-3645

[Arny Krueger]

"Eric Lee Productions, Inc." > wrote in
message
> Folks,
>
> I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing
> software that handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just
> simultaneous stereo "events"). What works for you?
>

A number of people here use Adobe Audition for that purpose.

[Dave]

Arny Krueger > wrote in message
...
> "Eric Lee Productions, Inc." > wrote in
> message
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing
> > software that handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just
> > simultaneous stereo "events"). What works for you?
> >
>
> A number of people here use Adobe Audition for that purpose.
>
>

Actually, I think Pro Tools, Nuendo, Logic, or Digital Performer are the
ones people use most.

[EggHd]

<< A number of people here use Adobe Audition for that purpose. >>

Old news But this name still hasn't grown on me.



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"I know enough to know I don't know enough"

[Benjamin Maas]

"Dave" > wrote in message ...
>
> Arny Krueger > wrote in message...
> > "Eric Lee Productions, Inc." > wrote in
> > message
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing
> > > software that handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just
> > > simultaneous stereo "events"). What works for you?
> > >
> >
> > A number of people here use Adobe Audition for that purpose.
> >
> >
>
> Actually, I think Pro Tools, Nuendo, Logic, or Digital Performer are the
> ones people use most.

Why don't you read what he wrote... PC... Logic and Digital Performer are
mac-only.

Many use Pro Tools, Nuendo, Samplitude and Sequoia, some also use Vegas...
I can highly recommend Samplitude (and Sequoia if you've got the cash).

--Ben


--
Benjamin Maas
Fifth Circle Audio
Los Angeles, CA
http://www.fifthcircle.com

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[Eric K. Weber]

Magix Sequoia.... or Magix Samplitude I have been very happy with Sequoia
after about 2 months of use, you will find the mutiband dynamics very useful
for voice over work.

Rgds:
Eric


"Benjamin Maas" > wrote in message
news:BU9Zb.78033$jk2.418217@attbi_s53...
> "Dave" > wrote in message ...
> >
> > Arny Krueger > wrote in message...
> > > "Eric Lee Productions, Inc." > wrote in
> > > message
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing
> > > > software that handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just
> > > > simultaneous stereo "events"). What works for you?
> > > >
> > >
> > > A number of people here use Adobe Audition for that purpose.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Actually, I think Pro Tools, Nuendo, Logic, or Digital Performer are the
> > ones people use most.
>
> Why don't you read what he wrote... PC... Logic and Digital Performer are
> mac-only.
>
> Many use Pro Tools, Nuendo, Samplitude and Sequoia, some also use Vegas...
> I can highly recommend Samplitude (and Sequoia if you've got the cash).
>
> --Ben
>
>
> --
> Benjamin Maas
> Fifth Circle Audio
> Los Angeles, CA
> http://www.fifthcircle.com
>
> Please remove "Nospam" from address for replies
>
>

[Dave]

>
> Why don't you read what he wrote... PC... Logic and Digital Performer are
> mac-only.


Forgive me, I didn't mean to upset you.

[John L Rice]

"Eric Lee Productions, Inc." > wrote in message
...
> Folks,
>
> I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing software
that
> handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just simultaneous stereo
> "events"). What works for you?
>
> I welcome your feedback.
>
> Sincerely,
> --
> Eric Lee
> Voice Talent / On-Camera / Producer / Writer
> / www.ericleeproductions.com
> 717-397-3645
>

Cubase SX works pretty well for me. No matter what software you get you may
be also interested in getting a Universal Audio UAD-1 PCI card. It comes
with some very nice EQ's and compressors.

Best of luck!

John L Rice

[JMJLouis]

>Many use Pro Tools, Nuendo, Samplitude and Sequoia, some also use Vegas...
>I can highly recommend Samplitude (and Sequoia if you've got the cash).
>
>--Ben
>
>
Samplitude is a real blast ! It has so many features others don't : For
instance, you can actually apply effects to a single "object" in your
track, allowing you to change those effects several times along the song
without worrying about automation or a limited number of plug-ins...
That's what I find is a real advantage for Samplitude.
I don't think any other software has this feature.

JMJLouis

--
As MS-DOS came into common use, people stopped fearing that computers would take over the world

[Bob Cain]

Eric Lee Productions, Inc. wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing software that
> handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just simultaneous stereo
> "events"). What works for you?

I second the recommendation for Adobe Audition. Besides a
capable multi-track recorder/mixer and a powerful editor it
has a full suite of effects and mastering functions built in
which in number and quality are hard to beat with any single
product.

Limitations: no ASIO, no VST plugins other than via a DX
wrapper, rudimentary MIDI support with no editing.

Unusual built in: multi-chanel surround encoder with export
to WMA 9 six-channel, six mono .wav files, or a six channel
interleaved .wav file.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

[Ricky W. Hunt]

"JMJLouis" > wrote in message
...
>
> >
> Samplitude is a real blast ! It has so many features others don't : For
> instance, you can actually apply effects to a single "object" in your
> track, allowing you to change those effects several times along the song
> without worrying about automation or a limited number of plug-ins...
> That's what I find is a real advantage for Samplitude.
> I don't think any other software has this feature.

Samplitude is one of the few (the only one I know of) that actually
processes event or "object" effects correctly. Meaning, it only consumes
resources when there's actual audio at that point on the timeline. CD
Architect 5 (which is otherwise fantastic) has become pretty much useless to
me for actual "mastering" (which is why I bought it, though the burning is
flawless) because of this. Track #20's plugins are running full steam even
when playing back Track #1, which unless you're only using a few plugins on
a few tracks, and "optimized" ones at that, you'll choke out even the most
cutting edge machine. This is just bad programming. Of course you might have
overlaps or crossfades where one track's effects might have to run
concurrently with another but that could be programmed for. Just running
them all full blast at all times is ridiculous. But of course I grew up
programming when 48K was a lot of memory and you had to squeeze everything
you could out of your code.

[Arny Krueger]

"JMJLouis" > wrote in message


>> Many use Pro Tools, Nuendo, Samplitude and Sequoia, some also use
>> Vegas... I can highly recommend Samplitude (and Sequoia if you've
>> got the cash).

> Samplitude is a real blast ! It has so many features others don't :
> For instance, you can actually apply effects to a single "object" in
> your track, allowing you to change those effects several times along
> the song without worrying about automation or a limited number of
> plug-ins... That's what I find is a real advantage for Samplitude.
> I don't think any other software has this feature.

Audition does.

[James Perrett]

Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> "JMJLouis" > wrote in message
>
>
> >> Many use Pro Tools, Nuendo, Samplitude and Sequoia, some also use
> >> Vegas... I can highly recommend Samplitude (and Sequoia if you've
> >> got the cash).
>
> > Samplitude is a real blast ! It has so many features others don't :
> > For instance, you can actually apply effects to a single "object" in
> > your track, allowing you to change those effects several times along
> > the song without worrying about automation or a limited number of
> > plug-ins... That's what I find is a real advantage for Samplitude.
> > I don't think any other software has this feature.
>
> Audition does.

While Audition can have different volume and pan settings for each clip,
the real time effects are track based (or have I missed something).

Cheers.

James.

[Arny Krueger]

"James Perrett" > wrote in message

> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>> "JMJLouis" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>> Many use Pro Tools, Nuendo, Samplitude and Sequoia, some also use
>>>> Vegas... I can highly recommend Samplitude (and Sequoia if you've
>>>> got the cash).
>>
>>> Samplitude is a real blast ! It has so many features others don't :
>>> For instance, you can actually apply effects to a single "object" in
>>> your track, allowing you to change those effects several times along
>>> the song without worrying about automation or a limited number of
>>> plug-ins... That's what I find is a real advantage for Samplitude.
>>> I don't think any other software has this feature.
>>
>> Audition does.
>
> While Audition can have different volume and pan settings for each
> clip, the real time effects are track based (or have I missed
> something).

Just do the editing you need to do, and add the effects you want to add, in
edit view.

[Bob Smith]

Bob Cain > wrote in message >...
> Eric Lee Productions, Inc. wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing software that
> > handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just simultaneous stereo
> > "events"). What works for you?
>
> I second the recommendation for Adobe Audition. Besides a
> capable multi-track recorder/mixer and a powerful editor it
> has a full suite of effects and mastering functions built in
> which in number and quality are hard to beat with any single
> product.
>
> Limitations: no ASIO, no VST plugins other than via a DX
> wrapper, rudimentary MIDI support with no editing.
>
> Unusual built in: multi-chanel surround encoder with export
> to WMA 9 six-channel, six mono .wav files, or a six channel
> interleaved .wav file.

I'll third the recommendation for Adobe Audition, though I still
prefer the Cool Edit Pro moniker. AA just doesn't cut it for me as a
name. Another unusual built in: AA will handle any arbitrary sample
rate to 1 MHz!!

bobs

Bob Smith
BS Studios
we organize chaos
http://www.bsstudios.com

[P Stamler]

Adobe Audition is clearly very popular at a midprice level. If you're on a
tight budget, though, you can get some very good results with n-track studio,
which is under $100 (I think it was going for $69 but haven't kept up) and does
most of the things Audition does, albeit with a much clunkier and less
intuitive interface. On the other hand, in addition to Direct-X plugins, it
will do VST effects, which Audition basically won't.

Peace,
Paul

[Arny Krueger]

"Bob Smith" > wrote in message
om
> Bob Cain > wrote in message
> >...
>> Eric Lee Productions, Inc. wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing
>>> software that handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just
>>> simultaneous stereo "events"). What works for you?
>>
>> I second the recommendation for Adobe Audition. Besides a
>> capable multi-track recorder/mixer and a powerful editor it
>> has a full suite of effects and mastering functions built in
>> which in number and quality are hard to beat with any single
>> product.
>>
>> Limitations: no ASIO, no VST plugins other than via a DX
>> wrapper, rudimentary MIDI support with no editing.
>>
>> Unusual built in: multi-channel surround encoder with export
>> to WMA 9 six-channel, six mono .wav files, or a six channel
>> interleaved .wav file.
>
> I'll third the recommendation for Adobe Audition, though I still
> prefer the Cool Edit Pro moniker. AA just doesn't cut it for me as a
> name. Another unusual built in: AA will handle any arbitrary sample
> rate to 1 MHz!!

I was just working with a file that was composed of a 15 MHz sine wave
sampled at 100 MHz.

[Ricky W. Hunt]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>
> I was just working with a file that was composed of a 15 MHz sine wave
> sampled at 100 MHz.
>

Why does this not surprise me? ;)

[Bob Cain]

Arny Krueger wrote:

> "James Perrett" > wrote in message
>
>
>>Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>>>"JMJLouis" > wrote in message

>>>
>>>
>>>>>Many use Pro Tools, Nuendo, Samplitude and Sequoia, some also use
>>>>>Vegas... I can highly recommend Samplitude (and Sequoia if you've
>>>>>got the cash).
>>>
>>>>Samplitude is a real blast ! It has so many features others don't :
>>>>For instance, you can actually apply effects to a single "object" in
>>>>your track, allowing you to change those effects several times along
>>>>the song without worrying about automation or a limited number of
>>>>plug-ins... That's what I find is a real advantage for Samplitude.
>>>>I don't think any other software has this feature.
>>>
>>>Audition does.
>>
>>While Audition can have different volume and pan settings for each
>>clip, the real time effects are track based (or have I missed
>>something).
>
>
> Just do the editing you need to do, and add the effects you want to add, in
> edit view.
>
>

Or you can logically (but not physically) split the file and
have different segments of it on different tracks of the
mixer for the application of different effects. A tad more
cumbersome than different effects on the same track but not
a lot.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

[Bob Cain]

Bob Smith wrote:


>
> I'll third the recommendation for Adobe Audition, though I still
> prefer the Cool Edit Pro moniker. AA just doesn't cut it for me as a
> name. Another unusual built in: AA will handle any arbitrary sample
> rate to 1 MHz!!

I've used that a lot for oversampled DSP research in
conjunction with Angelo Farina's Aurora DSP plugins for
Audition/CEP.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

[Harvey Gerst]

"Ricky W. Hunt" > wrote:

>"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>> I was just working with a file that was composed of a 15 MHz sine wave
>> sampled at 100 MHz.

>Why does this not surprise me? ;)

Why would you need a 100 MHz sampling rate to get a good sample of a 15 MHz sine
wave?

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[Arny Krueger]

"Harvey Gerst" > wrote in message

> "Ricky W. Hunt" > wrote:

>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>>> I was just working with a file that was composed of a 15 MHz sine
>>> wave sampled at 100 MHz.

>> Why does this not surprise me? ;)

Just a demo. I was curious as to whether Audition could actually do this.

> Why would you need a 100 MHz sampling rate to get a good sample of a
> 15 MHz sine wave?

To make a point about how flexible Audition is.

[Paul van der Heu]

"Eric Lee Productions, Inc." > wrote :

> I'm looking for recommendations on pro level, PC-based editing
> software that handles true, multitrack record/playback (not just
> simultaneous stereo "events"). What works for you?

I use a Behringer DDX3216 mixer live with ADAT module and ADA8000 8mic/line
to ADAT-ADAT to 8line extension.

I run these through a RME digiface into my laptop running Samplitude Pro.
24 track 48 KHz/24 recording without any problems for under $4000

I usually also run my Archos Jukebox recorder on the FOH mix for 2track
48KHz recordings (SP-DIF out from the Behringer..) on MP3/160kbps VBR

--
Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows,
how are you gonna guarantee my safety..
--John Crichton - Farscape pilot

[Paul van der Heu]

"Benjamin Maas" > wrote :

> Why don't you read what he wrote... PC... Logic and Digital Performer
> are mac-only.

Besides a program like Samplitude Pro kicks major b*tt where live recording
is concerned IMO (and logic/DP/ProTools *ss as a matter of fact)

--
Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows,
how are you gonna guarantee my safety..
--John Crichton - Farscape pilot