Josh Brown
February 19th 04, 01:49 AM
I'm replying to all of the comments together in one post to save
space.
First off I want to express my extreme appreciation and thanks for the
quality of your responses. This was exactly the type of critique I was
hoping for, and I am sure it will benefit the sound of my demo.
Now, onto the responses:
>From: José Luis Amores )
>Date: 2004-02-18 02:15:26 PST
>
>What about the equipment?
>Tell us what mics, pres, effects, ... did you use.
Dual 1.25Ghz Macintosh G4
Titanium G4 Laptop
Logic Audio Platinum
MOTU 828
EXS 24 (soft sampler)
Waves plugs (C1, L1, L1+UltMax, RenComp, RenEQ, RenVerb, BBE
Maximizer)
TC Electronics reverb plug
Lexicon PSP84 plugin
Electrovoice RE-20 (kick drum)
Shure SM-57s (snare/toms)
Audio Technica Pro37Rs (overheads)
Lexicon MPX1 (guitar effects)
Morley Wah Pedal
Mackie 1402 mixer/mic preamps
Event 20/20 BAS
Line 6 Pod 1.0 (all guitar tracks)
Fender Bassman 200 combo (line out for bass tracks)
Mapex Drums, Zildjian cymbals
I can go into more details about my mix settings later... I know
mackie/pod is a suckasss combo but i don't think it dooms me to hell
or completely ****ty sound either.
>At a first impression, listening to the samples only in my computer
>speakers, i think there is little lack of intensity in the first
tracks. I
>would like a more powerful sound.
Common thread... What can I do to get more power?
>
>I like "Calibos" the most.
Thanks, me too!
>
>
>From: James O'Connell )
>Date: 2004-02-18 11:26:02 PST
>
>Careful with the metal-licka kick drum sound, it is distracting.
Also, it
>sounds like a drummer mix ie the drums are dwarfing the guitars.
Just my
>thoughts...
>
cool, point taken
>
>From: Gigi )
>Date: 2004-02-18 06:47:16 PST
>
>hey,
>
>i have to agree with José on the lack of power in the overal sound
>to me personaly the bass is the leading instrument here and it gives
the
>music a a nice feel but through the entire song and all songs it
stays the
>same and is always present
>maybe that's a reason for the lack of power?
any suggestions???
>the kick sounds a bit in the distance (and i don't mean too qiuet)
but with
>a nice attack that fits the overal sound
what can I do about this?
>floortom doesn't sound good
OK, we didn't have a proper stand so the floor tom was mic'd from
underneath. I am considering using the tom tracks to trigger sampled
toms unless you have a way to improve the tone of what we recorded.
Any ideas???
>and overal i miss the drive when the songs take on more power, the
power
>doesn't come out of my speakers
>in general a bit too "clean"
I've heard this many times before... How can I make it edgier, more
powerful, more intense, more PUNK RAWK, more drill into your brain and
HEAVY DIRTY DISTORTED KILL YOU IN BURNING FLAMES sounding???
>but you are halfway in ur process so i think the endresult after
mastering
>will be good enough
thanks
>i hope you can benefit from my help
definitely
>
>
>From: Jack Guntzel )
>Date: 2004-02-18 08:10:44 PST
>
>You need a good room sound for the drums, sounds like it was recorded
>in a dead rehearsal space.
Bingo
> Then smash the **** out of the 2-buss with
>a << your favorite JFET or tube compressor here >>.
will waves plugs work? Do you mean the drum submix or the entire mix?
Any settings tips?
>Generally, the
>mixes lack intensity..
any suggestions welcome.
Thanks again and looking forward to your comments!!!!!
space.
First off I want to express my extreme appreciation and thanks for the
quality of your responses. This was exactly the type of critique I was
hoping for, and I am sure it will benefit the sound of my demo.
Now, onto the responses:
>From: José Luis Amores )
>Date: 2004-02-18 02:15:26 PST
>
>What about the equipment?
>Tell us what mics, pres, effects, ... did you use.
Dual 1.25Ghz Macintosh G4
Titanium G4 Laptop
Logic Audio Platinum
MOTU 828
EXS 24 (soft sampler)
Waves plugs (C1, L1, L1+UltMax, RenComp, RenEQ, RenVerb, BBE
Maximizer)
TC Electronics reverb plug
Lexicon PSP84 plugin
Electrovoice RE-20 (kick drum)
Shure SM-57s (snare/toms)
Audio Technica Pro37Rs (overheads)
Lexicon MPX1 (guitar effects)
Morley Wah Pedal
Mackie 1402 mixer/mic preamps
Event 20/20 BAS
Line 6 Pod 1.0 (all guitar tracks)
Fender Bassman 200 combo (line out for bass tracks)
Mapex Drums, Zildjian cymbals
I can go into more details about my mix settings later... I know
mackie/pod is a suckasss combo but i don't think it dooms me to hell
or completely ****ty sound either.
>At a first impression, listening to the samples only in my computer
>speakers, i think there is little lack of intensity in the first
tracks. I
>would like a more powerful sound.
Common thread... What can I do to get more power?
>
>I like "Calibos" the most.
Thanks, me too!
>
>
>From: James O'Connell )
>Date: 2004-02-18 11:26:02 PST
>
>Careful with the metal-licka kick drum sound, it is distracting.
Also, it
>sounds like a drummer mix ie the drums are dwarfing the guitars.
Just my
>thoughts...
>
cool, point taken
>
>From: Gigi )
>Date: 2004-02-18 06:47:16 PST
>
>hey,
>
>i have to agree with José on the lack of power in the overal sound
>to me personaly the bass is the leading instrument here and it gives
the
>music a a nice feel but through the entire song and all songs it
stays the
>same and is always present
>maybe that's a reason for the lack of power?
any suggestions???
>the kick sounds a bit in the distance (and i don't mean too qiuet)
but with
>a nice attack that fits the overal sound
what can I do about this?
>floortom doesn't sound good
OK, we didn't have a proper stand so the floor tom was mic'd from
underneath. I am considering using the tom tracks to trigger sampled
toms unless you have a way to improve the tone of what we recorded.
Any ideas???
>and overal i miss the drive when the songs take on more power, the
power
>doesn't come out of my speakers
>in general a bit too "clean"
I've heard this many times before... How can I make it edgier, more
powerful, more intense, more PUNK RAWK, more drill into your brain and
HEAVY DIRTY DISTORTED KILL YOU IN BURNING FLAMES sounding???
>but you are halfway in ur process so i think the endresult after
mastering
>will be good enough
thanks
>i hope you can benefit from my help
definitely
>
>
>From: Jack Guntzel )
>Date: 2004-02-18 08:10:44 PST
>
>You need a good room sound for the drums, sounds like it was recorded
>in a dead rehearsal space.
Bingo
> Then smash the **** out of the 2-buss with
>a << your favorite JFET or tube compressor here >>.
will waves plugs work? Do you mean the drum submix or the entire mix?
Any settings tips?
>Generally, the
>mixes lack intensity..
any suggestions welcome.
Thanks again and looking forward to your comments!!!!!