Problem while recording with Nuendo on Mac. System crash. I need help.

[stef]

Hello, I´ve been using Nuendo for quite a while without any problem.
But today, if I try to record any audio, the system crash as soon as I
press record and I have to restart the computer. I use a Mac.
I also have Peak and Deck installed and they record fine right now,
but I usually don´t use them.
The problem doesn´t happen when working with ASIO Sound manager. Only
when I set-up the drivers of my soundcard, an M-Audio DUO USB.
I don´t understand. I spent the whole day checking everything, I even
reinstalled Nuendo but it didn´t help.
Thank you for any help.

[Steve Jorgensen]

Try...
1. Run a diagnostic on the Mac to make sure you don't have any new hardware
problems or disk errors.
2. Do you have automatic update set up on the Mac? It's theoretically
possible that an update broke the M-Audio driver. Try downloading a newer
driver from M-Audio, and see if that helps.
3. Try using another audio program with the M-Audio, and see if it crashes as
well (e.g. if you have Ableton Live or something).

On 23 Nov 2003 08:07:34 -0800, (stef) wrote:

>Hello, I´ve been using Nuendo for quite a while without any problem.
>But today, if I try to record any audio, the system crash as soon as I
>press record and I have to restart the computer. I use a Mac.
>I also have Peak and Deck installed and they record fine right now,
>but I usually don´t use them.
>The problem doesn´t happen when working with ASIO Sound manager. Only
>when I set-up the drivers of my soundcard, an M-Audio DUO USB.
>I don´t understand. I spent the whole day checking everything, I even
>reinstalled Nuendo but it didn´t help.
>Thank you for any help.

[WillStG]

<< (stef) >>
>Hello, I´ve been using Nuendo for quite a while without any problem. But
today, if I try to record any audio, the system crash as soon as I press record
and I have to restart the computer. I use a Mac.
I also have Peak and Deck installed and they record fine right now, but I
usually don´t use them.
The problem doesn´t happen when working with ASIO Sound manager. Only when I
set-up the drivers of my soundcard, an M-Audio DUO USB. I don´t understand. I
spent the whole day checking everything, I even reinstalled Nuendo but it
didn´t help.
Thank you for any help. >>

Stef, don't try to use a Mac sound panel setting with the Duo setup in
the Mac sound panel as the sound device, use the M-Audio Duo ASIO driver. If
you don't have the driver download it from the Midiman website, it belongs in a
folder in your Nuendo folder labeled "Asio drivers". Then set up Nuendo to use
that Asio driver.

Trying to use the internal sound on a mac is a losing proposition with
Nuendo, and if you want to use VST instruments the latency is incredibly bad
unless you use the ASIO drivers - think 3 seconds before you hear a single note
playback. ( But then I am using a G3 500 powerbook, a real turtle speedwise. )

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[stef]

Thank you.
I´m rebuilding the desktop at the moment and it´s taking hours, it´s
been 2 hours since it´s started, and goes very slowly. Usually it´s
not that slow. It sounds strange. Also, I tried the M-audio with Peak
and Deck and Logic (!) and it works fine with the 3 of them. But not
with Nuendo...
If the rebuilt deskop doesn´t help, i´ll do some disc check, but i
think it´s strange that it happens only with Nuendo.
I´ve been installing some plug-ins recently. Of course I removed them,
but maybe something has been installed. I don´t know :(

More advices ?



Steve Jorgensen > wrote in message >...
> Try...
> 1. Run a diagnostic on the Mac to make sure you don't have any new hardware
> problems or disk errors.
> 2. Do you have automatic update set up on the Mac? It's theoretically
> possible that an update broke the M-Audio driver. Try downloading a newer
> driver from M-Audio, and see if that helps.
> 3. Try using another audio program with the M-Audio, and see if it crashes as
> well (e.g. if you have Ableton Live or something).
>
> On 23 Nov 2003 08:07:34 -0800, (stef) wrote:
>
> >Hello, I´ve been using Nuendo for quite a while without any problem.
> >But today, if I try to record any audio, the system crash as soon as I
> >press record and I have to restart the computer. I use a Mac.
> >I also have Peak and Deck installed and they record fine right now,
> >but I usually don´t use them.
> >The problem doesn´t happen when working with ASIO Sound manager. Only
> >when I set-up the drivers of my soundcard, an M-Audio DUO USB.
> >I don´t understand. I spent the whole day checking everything, I even
> >reinstalled Nuendo but it didn´t help.
> >Thank you for any help.

[stef]

Here comes the solution:
I went on Steinberg´s website and subscribed to the Nuendo forum.
There I realized that the problem I have is well known. Some users
recommand to disable Quicktime Exchange. I did. It works. Happy! :)
Maybe it can help somone, someday.
Stéphane


> << (stef) >>
> >Hello, I´ve been using Nuendo for quite a while without any problem. But
> today, if I try to record any audio, the system crash as soon as I press record
> and I have to restart the computer. I use a Mac.
> I also have Peak and Deck installed and they record fine right now, but I
> usually don´t use them.
> The problem doesn´t happen when working with ASIO Sound manager. Only when I
> set-up the drivers of my soundcard, an M-Audio DUO USB. I don´t understand. I
> spent the whole day checking everything, I even reinstalled Nuendo but it
> didn´t help.
> Thank you for any help. >>
>

[BananaHead]

(stef) wrote in message >...
> Here comes the solution:
> I went on Steinberg´s website and subscribed to the Nuendo forum.
> There I realized that the problem I have is well known. Some users
> recommand to disable Quicktime Exchange. I did. It works.

I take it your using N1.6 for OS9? As you already found out the
freeze on record, and sometimes freeze on playback, for Nuendo in OS9
is a well documented issue. Total pain in the ass. Turning off
Quicktime didn't solve it for all of us. If you get it again try
moving the mouse before using a hotkey to start record/playback. If
you haven't moved the mouse in a while and you hit the space bar it
can trigger the bug. Don't ask me why.

I found N1.6 to be nothing but problems on the mac. Some people were
able to get it working solid, and some still use it, but many just
hated it. When N2 for OSX came out earlier this year it set the
record straight on Mac. Very solid. And it's just been getting
better with each update. I don't remember the last time I had a
freeze/crash. It uses more resources so you can't get quite as many
tracks, but is much less quirky.

-bh

[stef]

Hello,
I hope N1.6 will work on OS9 for me now cause I can´t find a version
for OSX.
The ones I installed so far suggest me to download some additional
extentions called PACE InterLok (aka anti piracy ****). Yeah right ;)
I know I´ll probably get insulted by saying this on this list but I
never buy a soft before I try it. For instance I´m happy that I didn´t
buy N1.6 since it´s a pain in the ass. So we´ll see when I find Nuendo
for OSX.
Thank you very much for the tips.
PS: My working mail address is now


> I take it your using N1.6 for OS9? As you already found out the
> freeze on record, and sometimes freeze on playback, for Nuendo in OS9
> is a well documented issue. Total pain in the ass. Turning off
> Quicktime didn't solve it for all of us. If you get it again try
> moving the mouse before using a hotkey to start record/playback. If
> you haven't moved the mouse in a while and you hit the space bar it
> can trigger the bug. Don't ask me why.
>
> I found N1.6 to be nothing but problems on the mac. Some people were
> able to get it working solid, and some still use it, but many just
> hated it. When N2 for OSX came out earlier this year it set the
> record straight on Mac. Very solid. And it's just been getting
> better with each update. I don't remember the last time I had a
> freeze/crash. It uses more resources so you can't get quite as many
> tracks, but is much less quirky.
>
> -bh

[BananaHead]

(stef) wrote in message >...

> I know I´ll probably get insulted by saying this on this list but I
> never buy a soft before I try it. For instance I´m happy that I didn´t
> buy N1.6 since it´s a pain in the ass.


Uhhh, right. Well cracks will be an even bigger pain in the ass. The
word is all the cracks of Nuendo have major bugs.