Oktava challenge ?

[Geoff Wood]

Hows about teh concept of sommebody with a penchant for such things, and a
healthy skeptiscm (Ty / Scott ?) being equipped with 4 x MC012a mics, and
doing a shootout.

The mics should be:
Generic 'Guitar Centre'
Soundroom 'straight'
Soundroom with Dorsey mods (1G Ohm)
Soundroom with Dorsey mods (2G Ohm)

I would at the stage when I have one modded and one not, but do not have the
expertise (and aleardy a bias), or access to sufficent 'raw material' ...

geoff

[Daniel Houg]

"Geoff Wood" -nospam> wrote in message news:<Q%gvb.8743> Hows about teh concept of sommebody with a penchant for such things, and a
> healthy skeptiscm (Ty / Scott ?) being equipped with 4 x MC012a mics, and
> doing a shootout.
>
> The mics should be:
> Generic 'Guitar Centre'

you'll need ten. and then you might only find 2 or 3 that sound the
same enough to make a judgement. they are all over the board,
soundwise. i sifted thru 7 of them to find 2 that sounded alike. i
don't know if i got 2 good ones or 2 bad ones.


> Soundroom 'straight'
> Soundroom with Dorsey mods (1G Ohm)

i'd be VERY interested in this comparison.

> Soundroom with Dorsey mods (2G Ohm)

for the extra $7 per mic, why not just alway mod them with 2G? if
Scott or anyone else thinks they perceive an improvement, it is worth
the small cost.

i want to add one more comparision, and this is the one *I* really
want outside opinion on:

Soundroom vs GC w/ Dorsey mods.

the Dorsey mod on this mic is not hard. i'm comfortable at the price
point of buying the GC 012 and doing the mods. Scott gave us a real
treasure with this one.

-dan

[Ty Ford]

In Article >, "Geoff Wood"
-nospam> wrote:
>Hows about teh concept of sommebody with a penchant for such things, and a
>healthy skeptiscm (Ty / Scott ?) being equipped with 4 x MC012a mics, and
>doing a shootout.
>
>The mics should be:
>Generic 'Guitar Centre'
>Soundroom 'straight'
>Soundroom with Dorsey mods (1G Ohm)
>Soundroom with Dorsey mods (2G Ohm)
>
>I would at the stage when I have one modded and one not, but do not have the
>expertise (and aleardy a bias), or access to sufficent 'raw material' ...
>
>geoff


Thanks Geoff,

I'll decline. The variations within each of the four category would make the
results questionable. No knock to Scott, but I'd rather fiddle with a proper
mic for the same period of time, hoping to learn something more useful about
mic placement.

If Scott says he made it sound better, that's enough for me.


Regards,

Ty Ford

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[Scott Dorsey]

In article >,
Geoff Wood -nospam> wrote:
>Hows about teh concept of sommebody with a penchant for such things, and a
>healthy skeptiscm (Ty / Scott ?) being equipped with 4 x MC012a mics, and
>doing a shootout.
>
>The mics should be:
>Generic 'Guitar Centre'
>Soundroom 'straight'

The thing is that what you get with the Soundroom is better consistency.
Unless you try out a dozen different mikes from each, you really don't have
a good handle on what is going on.

>Soundroom with Dorsey mods (1G Ohm)
>Soundroom with Dorsey mods (2G Ohm)
>
>I would at the stage when I have one modded and one not, but do not have the
>expertise (and aleardy a bias), or access to sufficent 'raw material' ...

Some of the difference will depend on the original value resistors that
were in there. The factory manual says there should be 680M resistors in
there, but often I pull the mikes apart and find all kinds of different
things in there, depending on what they had in the factory that day.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Geoff Wood]

"Ty Ford" > wrote in message

> results questionable. No knock to Scott, but I'd rather fiddle with a
proper
> mic for the same period of time, hoping to learn something more useful
about
> mic placement.

You might find that it becomes a 'proper mic' ....

geoff

[Ty Ford]

In Article >, "Geoff Wood"
-nospam> wrote:
>
>"Ty Ford" > wrote in message
>
>> results questionable. No knock to Scott, but I'd rather fiddle with a
>proper
>> mic for the same period of time, hoping to learn something more useful
>about
>> mic placement.
>
>You might find that it becomes a 'proper mic' ....
>
>geoff

Based on the illustrious history of the MC012, and my experience with it, I
hand those honors to you Geoff.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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