What's the loudest 8" speaker in the world?

[Jonny Durango]

I need a super-loud 8" to make a custom SUPER PIGNOSE style guitar amp!! 50
watts. Any suggestions? thanks!!

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Jonny Durango

"Patrick was a saint. I ain't."

[Peter Larsen]

Jonny Durango wrote:

> I need a super-loud 8" to make a custom SUPER PIGNOSE style guitar amp!! 50
> watts. Any suggestions? thanks!!

Cerwin Vega comes to mind, Gauss if you can find one. YMMV. You could
try to point your browser at your favorite search engine, the first
probable link I found is:

http://www.jamminjersey.com/speaker4.htm

I'd go for one of the 12" Gauss guitar loudspeakers they have if I were
on your quest. I would look at another brand if it wasn't about
maximizing loudness .... O;-)


> Jonny Durango


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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[John Halliburton]

You're splitting hairs, just buy the most efficient Eminence 8" instrument
speaker listed on their site.
www.eminence-speaker.com

Best regards,

John

[georgeh]

Consider Weber VST. They have several models w/cover most playing
styles as well as most cabinet styles. Not sure if it suits you
style or cab, but I *do* have a spare Weber 8" for sale. I think
it was the P8R, but I'd have to double-check if you're interested.
I had a GREAT grunge sound when I was using it, but it didn't really
suit my playing style, so I ended up swapping to a diff Weber 8".

If you you want to check out the Webers, they're at http://www.webervst.com
If you're interested in my spare, email me at and
I'll check the details tonight.


"Jonny Durango" > writes:
>I need a super-loud 8" to make a custom SUPER PIGNOSE style guitar amp!! 50
>watts. Any suggestions? thanks!!

>"Patrick was a saint. I ain't."

[Peter Larsen]

John Halliburton wrote:

> You're splitting hairs, just buy the most efficient Eminence 8" instrument
> speaker listed on their site.

The difference between the loudest and the best may be earsplitting, but
it is not hairsplitting ... what I also wanted to get - perhaps too
subtly - across was and is that the loudest and the best are likely to
be mutually excluding aims.

> www.eminence-speaker.com

And Beyma, and JBL , and ... , and .... - there are plenty. As with any
musical instrument, only the actual user can decide what suits the
intended style. In this context the intended style is "as loud as
possible", and while I do have my opinion about the sanity of the quest
then the most likely products to meet the requirement that I am aware of
happen to be Gauss and Cerwin Vega, my bet remains on a Gauss, and 8"
Gauss guitar loudspeakers do exist.

> John


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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[henryf]

Jonny Durango wrote:

> I need a super-loud 8" to make a custom SUPER PIGNOSE style guitar amp!! 50
> watts. Any suggestions? thanks!!

How about 110dB/1W/1M sensitivity in a 8" (8 Ohms, 15 Watt
nominal, 25 Watt max) weatherproof aluminum PA horn? Model
SPC-15 $29.95. http://www.starkelectronic.com/25.htm#top

If your 50 W amp can provide 16W into 8 Ohms, I figure the SPL
would be 110 + 3 * 4 = 122 dB at 1 meter, which is loud enough
to cause hearing loss and slightly above the threshold of pain.

If that is not enough, and you can handle a larger driver
diameter, check out the 12" and 15" units.

[Edwin Hurwitz]

In my experience, Gauss speakers were hideously inefficient. That was
one of the reasons they could handle so much power.

I just put together some speakers for my home stereo which has a 3 wpc
single ended triode power amp and I used a pair of Fostex 8" drivers.
the model is the FE206E. They might work and are about $75 apiece. The
only caveat that I would give is that they take at least 100 hours to
break in.

Edwin




In article >,
Peter Larsen > wrote:

> Jonny Durango wrote:
>
> > I need a super-loud 8" to make a custom SUPER PIGNOSE style guitar amp!! 50
> > watts. Any suggestions? thanks!!
>
> Cerwin Vega comes to mind, Gauss if you can find one. YMMV. You could
> try to point your browser at your favorite search engine, the first
> probable link I found is:
>
> http://www.jamminjersey.com/speaker4.htm
>
> I'd go for one of the 12" Gauss guitar loudspeakers they have if I were
> on your quest. I would look at another brand if it wasn't about
> maximizing loudness .... O;-)
>
>
> > Jonny Durango
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Larsen
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[Peter Larsen]

Edwin Hurwitz wrote:

> In my experience, Gauss speakers were hideously inefficient. That was
> one of the reasons they could handle so much power.

Hmmm ... thanks. I did in fact reply to narrowly, because I only read
the part about the loudest and not that he would use 50 watts, I thought
of the loudest, watts unlimited. Also I wonder whether you compare to
their studio bass unit rather than to their musical instruments range.

> I just put together some speakers for my home stereo which has a 3 wpc
> single ended triode power amp and I used a pair of Fostex 8" drivers.
> the model is the FE206E. They might work and are about $75 apiece. The
> only caveat that I would give is that they take at least 100 hours to
> break in.

Now well, that is with chamber music ..... home hifi stuff may not last
long with a guitar amp.

> Edwin
>
> In article >,
> Peter Larsen > wrote:
>
> > Jonny Durango wrote:
> >
> > > I need a super-loud 8" to make a custom SUPER PIGNOSE style guitar amp!! 50
> > > watts. Any suggestions? thanks!!
> >
> > Cerwin Vega comes to mind, Gauss if you can find one. YMMV. You could
> > try to point your browser at your favorite search engine, the first
> > probable link I found is:
> >
> > http://www.jamminjersey.com/speaker4.htm
> >
> > I'd go for one of the 12" Gauss guitar loudspeakers they have if I were
> > on your quest. I would look at another brand if it wasn't about
> > maximizing loudness .... O;-)
> >
> >
> > > Jonny Durango
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Peter Larsen
> --
> Remove the*obvious to reply

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[Edwin Hurwitz]

The FE206E is not a bass driver. It is a full range driver (who knew
that you could get that much sparkle with no tweeter?). The RMS rating
is 30 watts and the music power is 90 watts. I haven't yet played
chamber music through it, but they do sound great with a variety of
other types of music. One of these days I will plug a guitar into the
system, just to hear what it sounds like.

Edwin




In article >,
Peter Larsen > wrote:

> Edwin Hurwitz wrote:
>
> > In my experience, Gauss speakers were hideously inefficient. That was
> > one of the reasons they could handle so much power.
>
> Hmmm ... thanks. I did in fact reply to narrowly, because I only read
> the part about the loudest and not that he would use 50 watts, I thought
> of the loudest, watts unlimited. Also I wonder whether you compare to
> their studio bass unit rather than to their musical instruments range.
>
> > I just put together some speakers for my home stereo which has a 3 wpc
> > single ended triode power amp and I used a pair of Fostex 8" drivers.
> > the model is the FE206E. They might work and are about $75 apiece. The
> > only caveat that I would give is that they take at least 100 hours to
> > break in.
>
> Now well, that is with chamber music ..... home hifi stuff may not last
> long with a guitar amp.
>
> > Edwin
> >
> > In article >,
> > Peter Larsen > wrote:
> >
> > > Jonny Durango wrote:
> > >
> > > > I need a super-loud 8" to make a custom SUPER PIGNOSE style guitar
> > > > amp!! 50
> > > > watts. Any suggestions? thanks!!
> > >
> > > Cerwin Vega comes to mind, Gauss if you can find one. YMMV. You could
> > > try to point your browser at your favorite search engine, the first
> > > probable link I found is:
> > >
> > > http://www.jamminjersey.com/speaker4.htm
> > >
> > > I'd go for one of the 12" Gauss guitar loudspeakers they have if I were
> > > on your quest. I would look at another brand if it wasn't about
> > > maximizing loudness .... O;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jonny Durango
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Peter Larsen
> > --
> > Remove the*obvious to reply
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[Peter Larsen]

Edwin Hurwitz wrote:

> The FE206E is not a bass driver. It is a full range driver (who knew
> that you could get that much sparkle with no tweeter?). The RMS rating
> is 30 watts and the music power is 90 watts. I haven't yet played
> chamber music through it, but they do sound great with a variety of
> other types of music. One of these days I will plug a guitar into the
> system, just to hear what it sounds like.

Do be vewyy careful, by JBL's way of specifying powerhandling in the old
days you should assume *at most* 10 watts powerhandling when used for MI
if the rms rating "integrated programme" is 30 watts. This unit hardly
has the sturdy front suspension required to keep it from disintegrating
in case of slapped strings ... perhaps it is safer to assume 5 watts for
MI use .... better safe than sorry, things sound a let less loud to the
operator of a musical instrument than to bystanders.

> Edwin


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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[Edwin Hurwitz]

I will be vewy vewy careful indeed, but bear in mind that the amp
driving these speakers is 3 wpc. I have no intention of blowing anything
up!


Thanks much!
Edwin


PS You do know that I am talking about a modern Fostex driver and not an
old JBL?







In article >,
Peter Larsen > wrote:

> Edwin Hurwitz wrote:
>
> > The FE206E is not a bass driver. It is a full range driver (who knew
> > that you could get that much sparkle with no tweeter?). The RMS rating
> > is 30 watts and the music power is 90 watts. I haven't yet played
> > chamber music through it, but they do sound great with a variety of
> > other types of music. One of these days I will plug a guitar into the
> > system, just to hear what it sounds like.
>
> Do be vewyy careful, by JBL's way of specifying powerhandling in the old
> days you should assume *at most* 10 watts powerhandling when used for MI
> if the rms rating "integrated programme" is 30 watts. This unit hardly
> has the sturdy front suspension required to keep it from disintegrating
> in case of slapped strings ... perhaps it is safer to assume 5 watts for
> MI use .... better safe than sorry, things sound a let less loud to the
> operator of a musical instrument than to bystanders.
>
> > Edwin
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Larsen
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[Peter Larsen]

Edwin Hurwitz wrote:

> I will be vewy vewy careful indeed, but bear in mind that the amp
> driving these speakers is 3 wpc. I have no intention of blowing anything
> up!

Ah, OK, I recall something about 50 watts being mentioned along the way.

> PS You do know that I am talking about a modern Fostex driver and not an
> old JBL?

Yes, but the powerhandling advice appears sane.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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