End-address fig 8 mic. Bad idea?

[Carey Carlan]

thought #1
I was looking at new mics and came across an end-address figure 8 mic on
the Schoeps website. Isn't this a fundamentally bad idea? The body of the
mic would sit squarely (roundly?) in the middle of the back lobe.

thought #2
I'm looking for the ultimate invisible mic. A skinny single-pipe stand
that ends in an XLR connector. Attach a side address pencil mic
pointing straight up and you get a minimum profile. I'd have to worry
about how to adjust the height (different stands?) and shock mounting
(fiberglass pole?) but it seems like a neat idea.

[Kurt Albershardt]

Carey Carlan wrote:
>
>
> I'm looking for the ultimate invisible mic. A skinny single-pipe stand
> that ends in an XLR connector. Attach a side address pencil mic
> pointing straight up and you get a minimum profile. I'd have to worry
> about how to adjust the height (different stands?) and shock mounting
> (fiberglass pole?) but it seems like a neat idea.

What application?

[Geoff Wood]

"Carey Carlan" > wrote in message
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> thought #1
> I was looking at new mics and came across an end-address figure 8 mic on
> the Schoeps website. Isn't this a fundamentally bad idea? The body of
the
> mic would sit squarely (roundly?) in the middle of the back lobe.

Sounds a pretty odd concept to me.

> thought #2
> I'm looking for the ultimate invisible mic. A skinny single-pipe stand
> that ends in an XLR connector. Attach a side address pencil mic
> pointing straight up and you get a minimum profile. I'd have to worry
> about how to adjust the height (different stands?) and shock mounting
> (fiberglass pole?) but it seems like a neat idea.

What about an electret capsule on the end of the said skinny pole ?

geoff

[Carey Carlan]

Kurt Albershardt > wrote in
:

> What application?

Recording live concerts

[David Satz]

Carey Carlan wrote:

> I was looking at new mics and came across an end-address figure 8
> mic on the Schoeps website. Isn't this a fundamentally bad idea?
> The body of the mic would sit squarely (roundly?) in the middle of
> the back lobe.

It's not an end-address microphone per se--the ideal figure-8 pattern
is symmetrical both horizontally and vertically at the same time.
The body of the microphone would sit ("cylindrically" in this case, I
suppose) in the null plane of the figure-8 pattern, not blocking
either of its lobes.

That is true for all figure-8 microphones that I'm aware of, not
only the Schoeps. There has to be physical symmetry at least in
the dimension that you consider to be the main one (normally the
horizontal plane).

You probably were looking at an M/S setup in which the figure-8 was
the "S" microphone. In that type of setup, the main lobe is pointed
to the left and the "rear" lobe is pointed to the right of the main
sound source.

--best regards

[Scott Dorsey]

Carey Carlan > wrote:
>
>thought #2
>I'm looking for the ultimate invisible mic. A skinny single-pipe stand
>that ends in an XLR connector. Attach a side address pencil mic
>pointing straight up and you get a minimum profile. I'd have to worry
>about how to adjust the height (different stands?) and shock mounting
>(fiberglass pole?) but it seems like a neat idea.

Schoeps makes something like this. Also, you can use the old extension
tube assemblies on the AKG 451, which is what they do around the stage at
the Met.

You could also get a 1/8" steel thinwall tube, and put a Countryman omni
at the end, running the lead wire inside.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Ty Ford]

In Article >, (Scott Dorsey)
wrote:
>Carey Carlan > wrote:
>>
>>thought #2
>>I'm looking for the ultimate invisible mic. A skinny single-pipe stand
>>that ends in an XLR connector. Attach a side address pencil mic
>>pointing straight up and you get a minimum profile. I'd have to worry
>>about how to adjust the height (different stands?) and shock mounting
>>(fiberglass pole?) but it seems like a neat idea.
>
>Schoeps makes something like this. Also, you can use the old extension
>tube assemblies on the AKG 451, which is what they do around the stage at
>the Met.
>
>You could also get a 1/8" steel thinwall tube, and put a Countryman omni
>at the end, running the lead wire inside.


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