E/V RE10 vs RE15

[Tatonik]

I read that the Electro-Voice RE10 and RE15 are the same design except
that the former doesn't meet the specification of latter. Is it worth
it to pay extra for the RE15? They seem to be selling for more on the
used market.

Do these have foam inside them like the RE20, and if so, is it a major
pain to replace if it has deteriorated?

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 5/24/2020 8:22 PM, Tatonik wrote:

> I read that the Electro-Voice RE10 and RE15 are the same design except
> that the former doesn't meet the specification of latter. Is it worth
> it to pay extra for the RE15? They seem to be selling for more on the
> used market.


The RE10 and RE15 are the same guts, body, and chamber design. The
difference is that the RE15 has a different grill design with a blast
shield. It's more versatile so it costs more. For most applications that
don't benefit from a wind screen, you won't notice a difference.

If you haven't noticed, there's a run on "podcasting mics" these days,
and the RE15 is one that's gained a good reputation in that application.
And of course because neither is made any longer, they're at "market"
price.





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[Neil[_9_]]

On 5/24/2020 8:22 PM, Tatonik wrote:
>
> I read that the Electro-Voice RE10 and RE15 are the same design except
> that the former doesn't meet the specification of latter.Â* Is it worth
> it to pay extra for the RE15?Â* They seem to be selling for more on the
> used market.
>
> Do these have foam inside them like the RE20, and if so, is it a major
> pain to replace if it has deteriorated?
>
The main differences between these, as in the RE11/RE16, was how tightly
they match the specification, which is important in stereo applications.

Mike's information is more useful w/r/t differences in the grille design
but I also don't recall either mic having foam inside them like the
RE20. I'll take a look at mine, if the question isn't answered before I
get around to it.

--
best regards,

Neil

[Roy W. Rising]

On=20Mon=20May=2025=2013:10:45=202020=20Neil=20=20 wrote:
>=20On=205/24/2020=208:22=20PM,=20Tatonik=20wrote:
>=20>
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>
>=20--
>=20best=20regards,
>
>=20Neil

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foam=20from=20contaminating=20the=20diaphragm.=20

"If=20you=20notice=20the=20sound,=20it's=20wrong!"

~=20Roy=20

[Neil[_9_]]

On 6/6/2020 12:09 PM, Roy W. Rising wrote:
> On Mon May 25 13:10:45 2020 Neil wrote:
>> On 5/24/2020 8:22 PM, Tatonik wrote:
>>>
>>> I read that the Electro-Voice RE10 and RE15 are the same design except
>>> that the former doesn't meet the specification of latter. Is it worth
>>> it to pay extra for the RE15? They seem to be selling for more on the
>>> used market.
>>>
>>> Do these have foam inside them like the RE20, and if so, is it a major
>>> pain to replace if it has deteriorated?
>>>
>> The main differences between these, as in the RE11/RE16, was how tightly
>> they match the specification, which is important in stereo applications.
>>
>> Mike's information is more useful w/r/t differences in the grille design
>> but I also don't recall either mic having foam inside them like the
>> RE20. I'll take a look at mine, if the question isn't answered before I
>> get around to it.
>>
>> --
>> best regards,
>>
>> Neil
>
> Lou Burroughs told me it comes down to Quality Control. Successor to the famous 666, the RE15 capsule passes the most stringent QC. The RE10s have the same capsules with lesser tollerances. The '15 screen is 'squared off', the '10's screen is rounded. The RE16 uses the '15 element and ,a large blast screen/foam. The RE11 is the eqivalent for the '10. Many folks consider the RE15 to be their "Desert Island" choice. I used to mic entire TV Orchestras with RE15s. And ... The RE15 has foam only inside the screen, and a silk layer to keep deteriorating foam from contaminating the diaphragm.
>
> "If you notice the sound, it's wrong!"
>
> ~ Roy
>
Thanks for the added info, Roy.

FWIW, all manufacturing has a quality control aspect. Some parts will
meet spec, others fall outside it, but not so much as to make them
useless. So, in a single-mic application it would be pretty difficult if
not impossible to tell the difference between the 10 vs. 15 or 11 vs.
16, which is not a "bad thing" at all!

--
best regards,

Neil

[John Williamson]

On 06/06/2020 17:09, Roy W. Rising wrote:

> Lou Burroughs told me it comes down to Quality Control. Successor to the famous 666, the RE15 capsule passes the most stringent QC. The RE10s have the same capsules with lesser tollerances. The '15 screen is 'squared off', the '10's screen is rounded. The RE16 uses the '15 element and adds a large blast screen/foam. The RE11 is the eqivalent for the '10. Many folks consider the RE15 to be their "Desert Island" choice. I used to mic entire TV Orchestras with RE15s. And ... The RE15 has foam only inside the screen, and a silk layer to keep deteriorating foam from contaminating the diaphragm.
>
If they use the same system as component makers used to use, then all
the ones that pass the strict test got to the RE15 line then the ones
that pass the next step are RE 10's and so on down the line.

They used to make resistors and capacitors, then select on test so it
was guaranteed that a 5% resistor was never less than 1% out, and a 10%
resistor was never less than 5% out.

Same for capacitors and other components.

> "If you notice the sound, it's wrong!"
>
Very true...


--
Tciao for Now!

John.