Social Distance Jam App?

[Neil[_9_]]

Hi,

I recall that a while back (perhaps almost a decade or so) there was a
live performance by musicians located in different countries around the
world. I'd like to do something similar on a much smaller scale with a
few friends.

Anyone know of an app that is good for real-time jam sessions from
different locations? Ideally, the app would not introduce delay and be
compatible with most operating systems.

All insights are appreciated!

--
best regards,

Neil

[geoff]

On 10/04/2020 11:57 am, Neil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recall that a while back (perhaps almost a decade or so) there was a
> live performance by musicians located in different countries around the
> world. I'd like to do something similar on a much smaller scale with a
> few friends.
>
> Anyone know of an app that is good for real-time jam sessions from
> different locations? Ideally, the app would not introduce delay and be
> compatible with most operating systems.
>
> All insights are appreciated!
>


Sorry don't know the or an app, but it is happening all over now too.

Maybe you can do it on oom ...

geoff

[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:57:56 -0400, Neil >
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I recall that a while back (perhaps almost a decade or so) there was a
>live performance by musicians located in different countries around the
>world. I'd like to do something similar on a much smaller scale with a
>few friends.
>
>Anyone know of an app that is good for real-time jam sessions from
>different locations? Ideally, the app would not introduce delay and be
>compatible with most operating systems.
>
>All insights are appreciated!

JamKazam is the one I use. It is peer-to-peer rather than going
through a central server, so latency is typically under 20mSec.
Perfect for a real time jam.

d

[Neil[_9_]]

On 4/10/2020 2:42 AM, Don Pearce wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:57:56 -0400, Neil >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recall that a while back (perhaps almost a decade or so) there was a
>> live performance by musicians located in different countries around the
>> world. I'd like to do something similar on a much smaller scale with a
>> few friends.
>>
>> Anyone know of an app that is good for real-time jam sessions from
>> different locations? Ideally, the app would not introduce delay and be
>> compatible with most operating systems.
>>
>> All insights are appreciated!
>
> JamKazam is the one I use. It is peer-to-peer rather than going
> through a central server, so latency is typically under 20mSec.
> Perfect for a real time jam.
>
> d
>
Thanks for the pointer...I'll look into it.

--
best regards,

Neil

[Scott Dorsey]

In article >, Neil > wrote:
>
>I recall that a while back (perhaps almost a decade or so) there was a
>live performance by musicians located in different countries around the
>world. I'd like to do something similar on a much smaller scale with a
>few friends.

Most of those are done layer by layer with a conventional multitrack
application. Record a track, send the file on to the next guy.

>Anyone know of an app that is good for real-time jam sessions from
>different locations? Ideally, the app would not introduce delay and be
>compatible with most operating systems.

None of them really work all that well once you start adding more than
a couple people, but the popular ones include Jammr, JamKazam, and Jamulus.
All of these work as well as your network connection does, and just because
you have plenty of bandwidth doesn't mean you have low latency.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Neil[_9_]]

On 4/13/2020 8:57 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> In article >, Neil > wrote:
>>
>> I recall that a while back (perhaps almost a decade or so) there was a
>> live performance by musicians located in different countries around the
>> world. I'd like to do something similar on a much smaller scale with a
>> few friends.
>
> Most of those are done layer by layer with a conventional multitrack
> application. Record a track, send the file on to the next guy.
>
The one I was thinking about claimed to be real-time, but who knows?

>> Anyone know of an app that is good for real-time jam sessions from
>> different locations? Ideally, the app would not introduce delay and be
>> compatible with most operating systems.
>
> None of them really work all that well once you start adding more than
> a couple people, but the popular ones include Jammr, JamKazam, and Jamulus.
> All of these work as well as your network connection does, and just because
> you have plenty of bandwidth doesn't mean you have low latency.
> --scott
>
This is true. I looked into JamKazam, which seems to be a generally good
approach as far as server access, cross-platform support and other
variables. However, resolving latency issues with those who are not
technically astute would make it a challenge to implement.

--
best regards,

Neil

[polymod]

"Neil" wrote in message ...

<snip>

>The one I was thinking about claimed to be real-time, but who knows?

Hey Neil,
This was a pretty hot topic last week on one of my friend's Facebook page.
Here's his last comment, and I trust his opinion.

"I looked into JamKazam about a month or two ago and was going to suggest it
(as possible solution for occasional rehearsals), but looks like it's not
been supported in a while. The people who have used it said it worked pretty
well, but I have no idea what the latency was like. (I guess that depends on
your system?) I told my son when he gets into NJIT, he and his friends
should come up with a solution"

Best,
Poly

[Neil[_9_]]

On 4/13/2020 2:49 PM, polymod wrote:
>
>
> "Neil"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> <snip>
>
>> The one I was thinking about claimed to be real-time, but who knows?
>
> Hey Neil,
> This was a pretty hot topic last week on one of my friend's Facebook page.
> Here's his last comment, and I trust his opinion.
>
> "I looked into JamKazam about a month or two ago and was going to
> suggest it (as possible solution for occasional rehearsals), but looks
> like it's not been supported in a while. The people who have used it
> said it worked pretty well, but I have no idea what the latency was
> like. (I guess that depends on your system?) I told my son when he gets
> into NJIT, he and his friends should come up with a solution"
>
> Best,
> Poly
>
Thanks for the opinions.

My assessment of JamKazam is that it is probably one of the best in
terms of cross-platform support, current w/r/t Mac and Win10, etc. The
main problem to solve has to do with participant's system latencies.
WiFi is out of the question, and latency will depend on things the user
has little control of, such as whether their internet provider's service
is affected by the number of neighbors.

Even assessing latency issues requires a bit of technical knowledge. For
many musicians, this will be beyond reach.

--
best regards,

Neil

[polymod]

"Neil" wrote in message ...

<snip>

Even assessing latency issues requires a bit of technical knowledge. For
many musicians, this will be beyond reach.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


I think you hit the nail on the head.
(Brings back memories of throwing in the towel after trying for weeks to get
my drummer to send me a midi file of him playing his digital kit.)

Poly