m-audio firewire 410

[dimercaprol]

Since things are quiet with no one posting much, I thought I would put my head above the parapet for once and ask if anyone knows about this.

I had a PC running Win 10, with a motherboard containing a built in firewire socket. Using Windows 7 drivers, I was able to make this work.

However, the new PC does not have a built in firewire socket. I got a PCI firewire card (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MMKJJY4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) which came with its own VIA driver.

This is not allowing the Firewire 410 driver to be installed. After some searching, I found that legacy IE1394 OHCI compliant drivers have to be installed. However, when I try to install the drivers (downloaded from a link on the Microsoft knowledge base), the computer crashes with an "Uncorrectable error" blue screen.

Has anyone managed to solve this?

Should I just dispose of the Firewire 410 and get a USB device instead? I am not a professional - just enjoy recording my own stuff for fun so I can't justify spending more than about £175.

Many thanks to all,
Dimercaprol

[david gourley[_4_]]

dimercaprol > said...news:84f34e44-b452-4efd-9d7b-
:

> Since things are quiet with no one posting much, I thought I would put my
head above the parapet for once and ask if anyone knows about this.
>
> I had a PC running Win 10, with a motherboard containing a built in
firewire socket. Using Windows 7 drivers, I was able to make this work.
>
> However, the new PC does not have a built in firewire socket. I got a PCI
firewire card
(https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MMKJJY4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_
o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) which came with its own VIA driver.
>
> This is not allowing the Firewire 410 driver to be installed. After some
searching, I found that legacy IE1394 OHCI compliant drivers have to be
installed. However, when I try to install the drivers (downloaded from a
link on the Microsoft knowledge base), the computer crashes with an
"Uncorrectable error" blue screen.
>
> Has anyone managed to solve this?
>
> Should I just dispose of the Firewire 410 and get a USB device instead? I
am not a professional - just enjoy recording my own stuff for fun so I
can't justify spending more than about £175.
>
> Many thanks to all,
> Dimercaprol
>

I needed a new Firewire card for Windows 10 in order to use my Midas board
for recording. VIA was never reliable for me.

I got one with a TI chip, and it works like charm with the legacy drivers.

HTH,
david

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[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 3/13/2020 10:37 AM, dimercaprol wrote:
> Should I just dispose of the Firewire 410 and get a USB device instead? I am not a professional - just enjoy recording my own stuff for fun so I can't justify spending more than about £175.

Unless you think it's time to retire your old interface, what you might
do is dispose of the Firewire PCI card that you have and get one with a
chip set that's compatible with more Firewire audio interfaces. The
NVidia Firewire chip is one that's known to not work with several audio
devices.

Now I'll tell you that it's been years since I've set up a new Firewire
audio interface, but back in the day, I recall problems with chip set
incompatibility. I have a few systems set up and working (so far no
further advanced than Windows 7) but it's old audio hardware and old
interface cards.

I'd recommend one from Startech. It has a Texas Instruments chip set,
and that's one that had no known problems.

https://www.startech.com/uk/Cards-Adapters/FireWire/3-Port-2b-1a-1394-PCI-Express-FireWire-Card-Adapter~PEX1394B3

Here's a download link to a simple tool (just run the .exe file) that
will identify the chip set in your Firewire card. Given the big NVidia
chip on the board, that's probably what it is.

https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/article_attachments/360001425840/ohciTool2.exe


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[geoff]

On 14/03/2020 3:37 am, dimercaprol wrote:
> Since things are quiet with no one posting much, I thought I would put my head above the parapet for once and ask if anyone knows about this.
>
> I had a PC running Win 10, with a motherboard containing a built in firewire socket. Using Windows 7 drivers, I was able to make this work.
>
> However, the new PC does not have a built in firewire socket. I got a PCI firewire card (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MMKJJY4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) which came with its own VIA driver.
>
> This is not allowing the Firewire 410 driver to be installed. After some searching, I found that legacy IE1394 OHCI compliant drivers have to be installed. However, when I try to install the drivers (downloaded from a link on the Microsoft knowledge base), the computer crashes with an "Uncorrectable error" blue screen.
>
> Has anyone managed to solve this?
>
> Should I just dispose of the Firewire 410 and get a USB device instead? I am not a professional - just enjoy recording my own stuff for fun so I can't justify spending more than about £175.
>
> Many thanks to all,
> Dimercaprol
>

I never had anything but difficulties with VIA chipset firewire
interfaces. An alternative ( can't remember what ) works fine.

geoff

[Trevor]

On 14/03/2020 10:57 am, geoff wrote:
> On 14/03/2020 3:37 am, dimercaprol wrote:
>> Since things are quiet with no one posting much, I thought I would put
>> my head above the parapet for once and ask if anyone knows about this.
>>
>> I had a PC running Win 10, with a motherboard containing a built in
>> firewire socket. Using Windows 7 drivers, I was able to make this work.
>>
>> However, the new PC does not have a built in firewire socket. I got a
>> PCI firewire card
>> (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MMKJJY4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
>> which came with its own VIA driver.
>>
>> This is not allowing the Firewire 410 driver to be installed. After
>> some searching, I found that legacy IE1394 OHCI compliant drivers have
>> to be installed. However, when I try to install the drivers
>> (downloaded from a link on the Microsoft knowledge base), the computer
>> crashes with an "Uncorrectable error" blue screen.
>>
>> Has anyone managed to solve this?
>>
>> Should I just dispose of the Firewire 410 and get a USB device
>> instead? I am not a professional - just enjoy recording my own stuff
>> for fun so I can't justify spending more than about £175.
>>
>> Many thanks to all,
>> Dimercaprol
>>
>
> I never had anything but difficulties with VIA chipset firewire
> interfaces. An alternative ( can't remember what ) works fine.
>

Yep, as others have said, the only FW chipsets that actually work are
from TI and Agere.

[dimercaprol]

Thank you all for the advice.
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. I am a hospital doctor and it has been crazy - about to get worse.
Best wishes to all - stay safe.