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You can hear Gerry, of Gerry & The Pacemakers, strumming a non amplified electric guitar, while singing! I guess it stands out, since the amplified guitar is subdued. But, it proves one thing, this is a "live" (1964) recording!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/ilikeit.mp3
Jack
jtees4
April 6th 17, 10:59 PM
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>You can hear Gerry, of Gerry & The Pacemakers, strumming a non amplified electric guitar, while singing! I guess it stands out, since the amplified guitar is subdued. But, it proves one thing, this is a "live" (1964) recording!...
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/ilikeit.mp3
>
>Jack
That was fairly common in the 60's, there was just a thread on an
internet forum where they gave many examples.....I am on so many
forums I don't recall where it was....I will try to find it.
Thanks. My guess,few, if any, played electric guitar as they sang.
In my opinion, not very common.
Jack
My guess, you record anyone singing, but have them strum an a non amplified guitar, and you will hear the guitar.
p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
In article >,
> wrote:
>p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
geoff
April 7th 17, 01:05 AM
On 7/04/2017 11:42 a.m., wrote:
> In article >,
> > wrote:
>> p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>
> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
>
Where is Fletcher when you need him ?
geoff
Rick Ruskin
April 7th 17, 01:13 AM
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 12:05:10 +1200, geoff >
wrote:
>On 7/04/2017 11:42 a.m., wrote:
>> In article >,
>> > wrote:
>>> p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>>
>> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
>> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
>> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
>>
>Where is Fletcher when you need him ?
>
>geoff
I believe he got out of audio and bought a bar. This way he can get
the blowhards to at least buy a beer or 2 while they spout their
considerable "knowledge."
RR
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Phil W
April 7th 17, 10:56 AM
> > wrote:
>>p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>
> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
Meanwhile, actually years later... anyway, some folks strictly refuse to
understand or learn anything, even simple facts - therefore, they make up
their own "facts", or is it called "post-facts" nowadays?
Please don´t feed the moronic turd anymore!
None
April 7th 17, 12:41 PM
"Gareth Magennis" > wrote in message
..
> That is kind of interesting.
Stop feeding the turd.
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> In article >,
> > wrote:
> >p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>
>
> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
Your buddy, Dorsey, claimed there is no such thing as varying DC offset, but I find more evidence, and correct it, each day. Now, what are you, Pro, doing here is a near dead usenet newsgroup? Obviously, your "audio" work fails to please.
Jack
On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-4, Phil W wrote:
>
> > > wrote:
> >>p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
> >
> > You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
> > here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
> > later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
>
> Meanwhile, actually years later... anyway, some folks strictly refuse to
> understand or learn anything, even simple facts - therefore, they make up
> their own "facts", or is it called "post-facts" nowadays?
>
> Please don´t feed the moronic turd anymore!
Remember when YOUR Randy challenged me with his wonderful sounding Blood, Sweat & Tears (even as .FLAC), and I told him, I care not listen to tape hiss noise, and he got ****ed-off and took his ball and went home.
No, it's YOU people that refuse to learn anything, you depend upon others to fix YOUR audio problems.
Bring on the Pros!
Jack
Les Cargill[_4_]
April 8th 17, 04:41 AM
geoff wrote:
> On 7/04/2017 11:42 a.m., wrote:
>> In article >,
>> > wrote:
>>> p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>>
>> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
>> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
>> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
>>
> Where is Fletcher when you need him ?
>
> geoff
>
Probably in Itchycoo Park.
--
Les Cargill
Les Cargill[_4_]
April 8th 17, 04:44 AM
Rick Ruskin wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 12:05:10 +1200, geoff >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/04/2017 11:42 a.m., wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>> p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>>>
>>> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
>>> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
>>> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
>>>
>> Where is Fletcher when you need him ?
>>
>> geoff
>
> I believe he got out of audio and bought a bar.
Now that is how you short circuit the basic concept, folks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4erJjojjvc
> This way he can get
> the blowhards to at least buy a beer or 2 while they spout their
> considerable "knowledge."
>
> RR
>
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Les Cargill
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> In article >,
> > wrote:
> >p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>
>
> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
When I first joined this group, Scott seems to be scared of my presence for unknown reasons. To me, he sees to have PLENTY of time on his hands, so he can't be doing a ton of audio work. His haphazard instructions, suggesting soldering a plastic body switch makes me doubt his electronics knowledge. He does give me hints about early (re)mastering, but not the entire story, so I find the those facts myself. I provide example after example of my audio work, but so few here do. I'm not shy, and I too laugh at those who find my own discovery about 3kHz, because so few actually do do audio work.
So many "experts" out there, yet vinyl made a small comeback, so those "experts" have failed audio knowledge.
Jack
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 5:59:23 PM UTC-4, jtees4 wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
> >You can hear Gerry, of Gerry & The Pacemakers, strumming a non amplified electric guitar, while singing! I guess it stands out, since the amplified guitar is subdued. But, it proves one thing, this is a "live" (1964) recording!...
> >
> >http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/ilikeit.mp3
> >
> >Jack
>
> That was fairly common in the 60's, there was just a thread on an
> internet forum where they gave many examples.....I am on so many
> forums I don't recall where it was....I will try to find it.
I'd appreciate ANYTHING you can find.
Allow me to elaborate about CD audio. Some may recall Mastersound CDs (Sony, I guess), maybe gold. I came across a Billy Joel CD album, sounds better than average. Let's talk about those employed by Sony and who did that Billy Joel CD album...
http://batterystudios.com/engineers/vic-anesini.shtml
Vic lied, that was no "master" I was hearing, it was remixed from session tapes. Years later, Billy Joel multi-tracks surface, so Sony could have issued Billy Joel sounding his finest, maybe decades ago. But, Vic, like many, are instructed to not give away the fort, leaving nothing left to reissue, time and time again.
I'd like to think Vic has decent audio knowledge, but between him and Bob Irwin, they both have fouled many remixes. Neither pay attention, and even though they claim a "single" version, they fail to remove what wasn't on the single (hit) rendition.
Vic, like Bob, enjoy money, not music.
Jack
In article >,
> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> In article >,
>> > wrote:
>> >p.s. Why so many record vocals separately.
>>
>>
>> You moron. Dorsey explained this to you the first time you ever posted
>> here and all you did was tell him how much of an expert you were. Months
>> later you still don't know a damn thing about recording.
>
>Your buddy, Dorsey, claimed there is no such thing as varying DC offset, but I fin
d more evidence, and correct it, each day. Now, what are you, Pro, doing here is a
near dead usenet newsgroup? Obviously, your "audio" work fails to please.
>
Ooh! You must be so smart to have invented a new kind of DC all by
yourself! I bet your mommy is real proud!
Moron.
jtees4
April 8th 17, 10:28 PM
On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 5:59:23 PM UTC-4, jtees4 wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>>
>> >You can hear Gerry, of Gerry & The Pacemakers, strumming a non amplified electric guitar, while singing! I guess it stands out, since the amplified guitar is subdued. But, it proves one thing, this is a "live" (1964) recording!...
>> >
>> >http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/ilikeit.mp3
>> >
>> >Jack
>>
>> That was fairly common in the 60's, there was just a thread on an
>> internet forum where they gave many examples.....I am on so many
>> forums I don't recall where it was....I will try to find it.
>
>I'd appreciate ANYTHING you can find.
>
>Allow me to elaborate about CD audio. Some may recall Mastersound CDs (Sony, I guess), maybe gold. I came across a Billy Joel CD album, sounds better than average. Let's talk about those employed by Sony and who did that Billy Joel CD album...
>
>http://batterystudios.com/engineers/vic-anesini.shtml
>
>Vic lied, that was no "master" I was hearing, it was remixed from session tapes. Years later, Billy Joel multi-tracks surface, so Sony could have issued Billy Joel sounding his finest, maybe decades ago. But, Vic, like many, are instructed to not give away the fort, leaving nothing left to reissue, time and time again.
>
>I'd like to think Vic has decent audio knowledge, but between him and Bob Irwin, they both have fouled many remixes. Neither pay attention, and even though they claim a "single" version, they fail to remove what wasn't on the single (hit) rendition.
>
>Vic, like Bob, enjoy money, not music.
>
>Jack
>
>
>
It's driving me nuts, I can't find the thread...I am on so many forums
it may take awhile but I'll come across it. But at the same time, I
definitely overstated it when I said "fairly common"....there were
about 10 that people mentioned.
It's okay, I'm patient. I can wait, while John Williamson learns DAW while Geoff learns to string a guitar while Bruce learns how to play bass and Karl learns DC is more than Washington, I'll be here! :)
Jack
Will you teach me all your audio knowledge, I have a half minute to spare.
Jack
Come on, Phil, I have learned one thing, I'm better than you.
Got Audio 101 question? Phil is here to answer!
Jack
John Williamson
April 9th 17, 09:46 AM
On 08/04/2017 23:49, wrote:
> It's okay, I'm patient. I can wait, while John Williamson learns DAW while Geoff learns to string a guitar while Bruce learns how to play bass and Karl learns DC is more than Washington, I'll be here! :)
>
Meanwhile, we've given up all hope of you ever learning the first thing
about audio....
--
Tciao for Now!
John.
None
April 9th 17, 01:47 PM
"John Williamson" > wrote in message
...
Don't feed the turd.
None
April 9th 17, 01:47 PM
"jtees4" > wrote in message
...
Please don't feed the turd.
None
April 9th 17, 01:48 PM
> wrote in message
...
Please don't feed the turd.
Scott Dorsey
April 9th 17, 11:29 PM
Rick Ruskin > wrote:
>On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 12:05:10 +1200, geoff >
>>>
>>Where is Fletcher when you need him ?
>>
>I believe he got out of audio and bought a bar. This way he can get
>the blowhards to at least buy a beer or 2 while they spout their
>considerable "knowledge."
Any idea where? I would _gladly_ buy a beer from him, any day.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 8:48:33 AM UTC-4, None wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Please don't feed the turd.
Have you practiced playing your skin flute today?
Jack
Scott Dorsey
April 9th 17, 11:31 PM
In article >, > wrote:
>Ooh! You must be so smart to have invented a new kind of DC all by
>yourself! I bet your mommy is real proud!
>
>Moron.
Agnew is a troll. He exists to spout things to deliberately annoy you. Don't
reply to him and give him the satisfaction, just killfile him. He isn't worth
your time.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 6:31:37 PM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> In article >, > wrote:
> >Ooh! You must be so smart to have invented a new kind of DC all by
> >yourself! I bet your mommy is real proud!
> >
> >Moron.
>
> Agnew is a troll. He exists to spout things to deliberately annoy you. Don't
> reply to him and give him the satisfaction, just killfile him. He isn't worth
> your time.
> --scott
>
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Scott was some hippy coffee boy runner as some defunct recording studio.
Scott claimed DAC were the cause of early, foul sounding audio CDs. Far from the truth. It was I who found most every CD publisher was using one of two Sony PWM machines, and most had no idea of digital audio, so they were used (way too) conservatively.
Scott claimed there no such thing as varying DC offset. Nonsense. However, Goldwave software provides a way to correct it. I enjoy seeing the waveform, or portions of it, shift.
More Fake News Dorsey Reports.
Jack
Rick Ruskin
April 10th 17, 12:54 AM
On 9 Apr 2017 18:29:45 -0400, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>Rick Ruskin > wrote:
>>On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 12:05:10 +1200, geoff >
>>>>
>>>Where is Fletcher when you need him ?
>>>
>>I believe he got out of audio and bought a bar. This way he can get
>>the blowhards to at least buy a beer or 2 while they spout their
>>considerable "knowledge."
>
>Any idea where? I would _gladly_ buy a beer from him, any day.
>--scott
I think this is the place.
http://www.planbsuffern.com/contact-us/
RR
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Mike Rivers[_2_]
April 10th 17, 02:08 AM
On 4/9/2017 4:54 PM, Rick Ruskin wrote:
> I think this is the place.
>
> http://www.planbsuffern.com/contact-us/
Customer service is important to us – We’re not happy until you’re not
happy!
He had a sign at his booth at AES with that motto.
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a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be
operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson
Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then
On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 7:54:36 PM UTC-4, Rick Ruskin wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2017 18:29:45 -0400, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
> >Rick Ruskin > wrote:
> >>On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 12:05:10 +1200, geoff >
> >>>>
> >>>Where is Fletcher when you need him ?
> >>>
> >>I believe he got out of audio and bought a bar. This way he can get
> >>the blowhards to at least buy a beer or 2 while they spout their
> >>considerable "knowledge."
> >
> >Any idea where? I would _gladly_ buy a beer from him, any day.
> >--scott
>
> I think this is the place.
>
> http://www.planbsuffern.com/contact-us/
>
> RR
>
> ---
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Oh, great, you become an alcoholic after joining this group. Understandable! :-)
Jack
On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 4:46:29 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
> On 08/04/2017 23:49, wrote:
> > It's okay, I'm patient. I can wait, while John Williamson learns DAW while Geoff learns to string a guitar while Bruce learns how to play bass and Karl learns DC is more than Washington, I'll be here! :)
> >
> Meanwhile, we've given up all hope of you ever learning the first thing
> about audio....
Look, my DAW has less buttons than your fancy, expensive DAW!
Jack
>
>
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.
geoff
April 10th 17, 08:59 PM
On 11/04/2017 1:14 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 4:46:29 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 08/04/2017 23:49, wrote:
>>> It's okay, I'm patient. I can wait, while John Williamson learns DAW while Geoff learns to string a guitar while Bruce learns how to play bass and Karl learns DC is more than Washington, I'll be here! :)
>>>
>> Meanwhile, we've given up all hope of you ever learning the first thing
>> about audio....
>
> Look, my DAW has less buttons than your fancy, expensive DAW!
>
"Fewer", ignoramus.
geoff
John Williamson
April 10th 17, 09:32 PM
On 10/04/2017 14:14, wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 4:46:29 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 08/04/2017 23:49, wrote:
>>> It's okay, I'm patient. I can wait, while John Williamson learns DAW while Geoff learns to string a guitar while Bruce learns how to play bass and Karl learns DC is more than Washington, I'll be here! :)
>>>
>> Meanwhile, we've given up all hope of you ever learning the first thing
>> about audio....
>
> Look, my DAW has less buttons than your fancy, expensive DAW!
>
Unlikely, and one of the DAW progams I use is free, so it's at most the
same price as yours, as are many of the plugins it uses. I uses 101 keys
for typing filenames and a two switches on the mouse.
And it seems you also missed basic English class as you don't know the
difference between less and fewer.
--
Tciao for Now!
John.
On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:00:40 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 11/04/2017 1:14 AM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 4:46:29 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
> >> On 08/04/2017 23:49, wrote:
> >>> It's okay, I'm patient. I can wait, while John Williamson learns DAW while Geoff learns to string a guitar while Bruce learns how to play bass and Karl learns DC is more than Washington, I'll be here! :)
> >>>
> >> Meanwhile, we've given up all hope of you ever learning the first thing
> >> about audio....
> >
> > Look, my DAW has less buttons than your fancy, expensive DAW!
> >
>
> "Fewer", ignoramus.
OK! Or, for you as a reminder, Ok!
Jack
>
> geoff
On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:32:39 PM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
> On 10/04/2017 14:14, wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 4:46:29 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
> >> On 08/04/2017 23:49, wrote:
> >>> It's okay, I'm patient. I can wait, while John Williamson learns DAW while Geoff learns to string a guitar while Bruce learns how to play bass and Karl learns DC is more than Washington, I'll be here! :)
> >>>
> >> Meanwhile, we've given up all hope of you ever learning the first thing
> >> about audio....
> >
> > Look, my DAW has less buttons than your fancy, expensive DAW!
> >
> Unlikely, and one of the DAW progams I use is free, so it's at most the
> same price as yours, as are many of the plugins it uses. I uses 101 keys
> for typing filenames and a two switches on the mouse.
>
> And it seems you also missed basic English class as you don't know the
> difference between less and fewer.
Okay, I was in error. To error is human!
Now, can you clarify this, Mr. English teacher?... "I uses 101 keys".
I thought so! :)
Jack
>
>
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.
None
April 11th 17, 02:26 AM
"geoff" > wrote in message
...
> ignoramus.
>
> geoff
You, who encourage the trolling turd, are an ignoramus.
None
April 11th 17, 02:27 AM
"John Williamson" > wrote in message
...
>
> And it seems you also missed basic English class
You, willing accomplice of the trolling turd, missed a lot more.
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