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March 9th 16, 02:57 PM
The demo is 8 bits so the effect of quantization distortion is much worse compared to what 16 or more bits would sound like.

Note that dither does not simply MASK the quantizing distortion with noise, it ACTUALLY linearizes the conversion.

Quantizing noise is a misnomer, it is more correct to call it quantizing distortion.

http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_dithering.php

Mark

Nil[_2_]
March 9th 16, 07:22 PM
On 09 Mar 2016, wrote in rec.audio.pro:

> The demo is 8 bits so the effect of quantization distortion is
> much worse compared to what 16 or more bits would sound like.
>
> Note that dither does not simply MASK the quantizing distortion
> with noise, it ACTUALLY linearizes the conversion.
>
> Quantizing noise is a misnomer, it is more correct to call it
> quantizing distortion.
>
> http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_dithering.php

Thank you, this was interesting to me. Dithering is a subject I don't
understand very well, and this helped a lot.

Les Cargill[_4_]
March 9th 16, 11:29 PM
Nil wrote:
> On 09 Mar 2016, wrote in rec.audio.pro:
>
>> The demo is 8 bits so the effect of quantization distortion is
>> much worse compared to what 16 or more bits would sound like.
>>
>> Note that dither does not simply MASK the quantizing distortion
>> with noise, it ACTUALLY linearizes the conversion.
>>
>> Quantizing noise is a misnomer, it is more correct to call it
>> quantizing distortion.
>>
>> http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_dithering.php
>
> Thank you, this was interesting to me. Dithering is a subject I don't
> understand very well, and this helped a lot.
>

Part of the Monty Montgomery link I put up addresses this in a very easy
to understand way. he even shows how dither causes signals below the
noise floor are recoverable w/ dither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM

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Les Cargill

Nil[_2_]
March 9th 16, 11:58 PM
On 09 Mar 2016, Les Cargill > wrote in
rec.audio.pro:

> Part of the Monty Montgomery link I put up addresses this in a
> very easy to understand way. he even shows how dither causes
> signals below the noise floor are recoverable w/ dither.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM

Thanks, I'll check that out, too. The math and physics behind it are
beyond me, but these help me get a handle on the practical aspects.

Les Cargill[_4_]
March 10th 16, 03:31 AM
Nil wrote:
> On 09 Mar 2016, Les Cargill > wrote in
> rec.audio.pro:
>
>> Part of the Monty Montgomery link I put up addresses this in a
>> very easy to understand way. he even shows how dither causes
>> signals below the noise floor are recoverable w/ dither.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
>
> Thanks, I'll check that out, too. The math and physics behind it are
> beyond me,


I doubt that. The notation will sure get in the way, though.

> but these help me get a handle on the practical aspects.
>



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Les Cargill